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Report on Sri Lanka by the Ban-Ki-moon advisory Panel – 2

By D.B.S. Jeyaraj

Continued from last week

A diplomatic tussle is going on at present between the United Nations Secretary –General (UNSG) and the Government of President Mahinda Rajapaksa over the release of the report compiled by the three-member advisory panel appointed by Ban Ki moon. This is not a fresh development but only an extension of the “cold war” that has been continuing ever since Ban Ki moon visited Sri Lanka in May 2009 after the war against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) was concluded.

President Mahinda Rajapaksa & UN SG Ban-Ki-moon

The UN SG along with influential western nations has been trying hard to get Sri Lanka to set up an accountability mechanism and conduct inquiries into the final phase of the war. The Government of President Mahinda Rajapaksa for reasons of its own has been resisting such efforts strenuously.

Despite this stance adopted by Sri Lanka , past events display a seeming lack of cohesion on the part of Colombo in dealing with the issue. It appears that Sri Lanka had no clear consistent policy on this matter and often see-sawed between rigid and flexible postures in this regard.

The high watermark in Sri Lanka’s diplomatic prowess was the victory it achieved in Geneva at the UN Human Rights Council conclave in May 2009. Sri Lanka with the help of friendly nations not only defended itself effectively against a resolution brought against it but also succeeded in getting a “counter resolution” favourable to it passed.

RESOLUTION

That resolution described as the “Geneva consensus” was carried by twenty-nine votes to twelve with five abstentions in the council comprising forty – six member states. The architecht of that diplomatic achievement was Sri Lanka’s envoy to the UN in Geneva,Dr.Dayan Jayatilleka. However, in a baffling move,Dayan Jayatilleka was recalled to Colombo within weeks of that diplomatic triumph.

Dr.Dayan Jayatilleka

Jayatilleka was also responsible for resisting UN pressures on Sri Lanka and stridently articulating the viewpoint of Colombo in the corridors and halls of Geneva. One recalls the cutting remark made by Jayatilleka to former UN Human Rights chief Louise Arbour when she kept on pressing Sri Lanka to agree to the setting up of a UN field office on Human rights in the Island as was done in Nepal. Jayatilleka asked Arbour “Which part of “NO” do you not understand”?

The flamboyant Jayatilleka with his ebullient mode of expression kept the Lankan flag flying at Diplomatic fora without complying to international diktat. All UN efforts to force Colombo to set up an accountability mechanism were rebuffed by him. But things changed soon particularly after his recall.

HMGS Palihakkara with UN SG Ban-Ki moon

It was our representative at the UN in New York, HMGS Palihakkara who first agreed to consider the appointment of a domestic accountability mechanism at a UN basement discussion.This consent to consider a domestic accountability mechanism was apparently made to Susan Rice the US representative at the UN.

In fairness to Mr.Palihakkara, it must be said that the seasoned diplomat made such a decision only as the best option available in a tricky situation. This was a time when strong moves were afoot to place Sri Lanka on the agenda of the UN security council. Although Sri Lanka’s friends Russia and China could always veto any adverse resolution there was no way in which they could have prevented the Sri Lankan issue being placed on the agenda and being discussed.

It was this prospect which perhaps made Palihakkara resort to the option of agreeing to consider a domestic accountability mechanism. This was a hard choice made with the best interests of the country at heart. On the one hand it avoided Sri Lanka being placed on the UN security council agenda and undermined pressures to launch an international probe , on the other.

FLEXIBILITY

The flexibility displayed by the Sri Lankan ambassador to the UN at New York was a departure from the rigidity adopted by the Sri Lankan ambassador to the UN at Geneva. Whatever the merits of this move the “consent” given was a boost to the international community pressuring Colombo. It also indicated that Colombo did not possess a precise strategy on the matter and was resorting to ad hoc tactical moves whenever suitable.

The Rajapaksa regime however did not give in readily to pressures on the setting up of a domestic accountability mechanism despite the view expressed by Palihakkara in NY.It continued to procrastinate. This delay was in a sense typical of a stratagem followed by President Rajapaksa in dealing with certain types of situations. It is best described in Sinhala “Porunthuwela Enda; passa balamu” (Promise and come; we’ll see later)

This resistance was annoying perhaps to Ban Ki moon who was beginning to get impatient. In March 2010 the UN Secy –gen announced his decision to appoint an advisory panel to delve into the final phase of war in Sri Lanka and submit a report to him.

This sparked off heated protests from Colombo. A legalistic position was taken that the UN secy –gen had no authority or mandate to appoint a commission of this type as the UN security council or General council had not sanctioned it. Ban Ki moon countered it by saying this was not a UN panel but only an advisory panel responsible to him.

After weeks of exchanges both private and public the Sri Lankan Govt announced the appointment of a commission in May 2010.It’s terms of reference however were different to what was specifically being demanded.The Lessons learnt and reconciliation Commission (LLRC) was to go into events from the cessation of hostilities accord in 2002 between the United National party (UNP) led Govt and the LTTE up to the war ending in May 2009.

On May 6, 2010, the Sri Lankan government announced that it will establish a commission to report on the lessons learned from the conflict and reconciliation efforts. In a statement posted on the government’s website, the government announced that “there will be the [sic] search for any violations of internationally accepted norms of conduct in such conflict situations, and the circumstances that may have led to such actions, and identify any persons or groups responsible for such acts.” The statement said nothing about holding such persons accountable under Sri Lankan criminal law or what other steps would be taken against those found to have been acting in violation of Sri Lankan or international law.

On May 10, the US ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, welcomed Sri Lanka’s intention to establish a commission on the war and listed several criteria that would need to be met for the commission to play a valuable role in advancing accountability for violations of international humanitarian law.

CRITERIA

These criteria included independence, the impartiality and competence of the members, a proper mandate, adequate and effective protection for witnesses, adequate resources, and serious government consideration of the commission’s recommendations.

International Human Rights monitoring agencies such as the Amnesty International,Human Rights Watch and International Crisis Grop were sceptical and critical from the start.They declined an invitation by the LLRC to testify before it. These agencies opined that the LLRC was structurally flawed and functionally impaired and was more an attempt to deflect international criticism than genuinely investigate rights violation allegations.

External Affairs Minister Prof.GL Peiris & UN SG Ban-Ki-moon

On May 28th 2010 ,Sri Lankan External Affairs Minister Prof.GL Peiris met US secretary of State Hillary Clinton and impressed upon her the fact that the LLRC was the best mechanism for domestic accountability available under prevailing circumstances and assured Washington that an independent report would be forthcoming. Human Rights Watch however wrote to Clinton urging her to not let Sri Lanka continue with its climate of impunity.

Despite these moves and counter moves the LLRC did not commence sittings for quite a while. This lethargy was shed when Ban Ki moon in a controversial move went ahead with his earlier intention of appointing an advisory panel.

The official UN press release of June 22nd 2010 that announced the appointment of this panel stated as follows –”The Secretary-General has appointed a panel of Experts that will advise him on the issue of accountability with regard to any alleged violations of international human rights and humanitarian law during the final stages of the conflict in Sri Lanka”.

It’s terms of reference at the time of appointment as outlined in the official press communiqué were –

“The panel will advise the Secretary-General on the implementation of the commitment on human rights accountability made in the Joint Statement issued by President [Mahinda] Rajapaksa of Sri Lanka and the Secretary-General during the latter’s visit to Sri Lanka in May 2009. It will look into the modalities, applicable international standards and comparative experience with regard to accountability processes, taking into account the nature and scope of any alleged violations in Sri Lanka. It will be available as a resource to Sri Lankan authorities should they wish to avail themselves of its expertise in implementing the commitment”

ACCOUNTABILITY

The official statement further said “In the conduct of its mandate, the panel hopes to cooperate with concerned officials in Sri Lanka.It is expected to complete its advisory responsibilities within four months of the commencement of its work.The Secretary-General remains convinced that accountability is an essential foundation for durable peace and reconciliation in Sri Lanka. Through the panel the Secretary-General expects to enable the United Nations to make a constructive contribution in this regard”.

The three members of the panel were Marzuki Darusman ( Indonesia), Chair; Yasmin Sooka ( South Africa); and Steven Ratner ( United States).The highly respected Darusman was a former Indonesian Attorney –General.He had also been the UN special rights investigator for North Korea. Yasmin Sooka was a former member of the commission that investigated apartheid atrocities in South Africa. Steven Ratner is an American lawyer and author of a book on the struggle among nations to hold people accountable for human rights abuses

The appointment of the advisory panel was met with stiff opposition by Sri Lanka. The appointment of Darusman as chair was particularly controversial. President Rajapaksa had earlier in 2006 appointed a commission of inquiry to probe fifteen cases of alleged human rights violations.

Rajapaksa also appointed a panel of international experts to observe proceedings of the Presidential commission of inquiry. This panel comprising ten persons was called the International Independent group of Eminent persons (IIGEP). Darusman was a prominent member of the IIGEP panel. The Sri Lankan Attorney –General at that time was Chitha Ranjan de Silva(CR de Silva)

Darusman had objected to some aspects of the conduct of CR de Silva during proceedings. The Attorney-General’s conduct was cited as the main reason for the IIGEP to pull out of proceedings. Apparently Darusman was the driving force behind the pull – out from monitoring the inquiry proceedings. The IIGEP stated that it had “not been able to conclude…that the proceedings of the Commission have been transparent or have satisfied basic international norms and standards.”

Now the very same Darusman was chair of the advisory panel. By a quirk of fate the head of the LLRC was none other than CR de Silva. The one time prop forward who captained the Royal College Rugby team in 1968 is known in rugger circles as “Bulla”.

Nominating Darusman was perceived as a deliberate move by Ban Ki moon. Darusman was suspected (unfairly perhaps)of being partial and against Sri Lanka on account of his role in IIGEP proceedings.Likewise the other two members were also vilified as being partisan. Sooka because of her African National Congress connections was seen as being pro-LTTE. Ratner was seen as prejudiced against Sri Lanka due to some of his writings in his book

IMPARTIAL

What was lost on those castigating Darusman, Sooka and Ratner as not being impartial was the fact that by the same yardstick the same charges could be laid out against the LLRC chairman and some other members also because they too had held or were holding official posts and thus could be deemed as not being impartial.

Such slandering on flimsy grounds is unacceptable. The members of both the LLRC and the Ki moon advisory panel are persons of integrity whose independence and impartiality deserves respect unless and until proved otherwise.

The announcement that an advisory panel had been appointed by Ban Ki moon triggered off a wave of protests in Sri Lanka. National Freedom Front (NFF)leader and Cabinet minister Wimal Weerawansa spearheaded demonstrations opposite the UN office in Colombo.While Weerawansa embarked on a “fast unto death” campaign demanding that the UN backtrack other demonstrators burned Ban Ki moons effigy. Demonstrators blocked entry and exit to the UN premises.When conscientious Police officers tried to stop this obstruction they were berated and allegedly reprimanded by higher authorities.

Weerawansa’s fast was called off after three days without his demand being granted. Apparently his health was decaying and President Rajapaksa himself asked him to call it off and symbolically ended it by giving Weerawansa water to drink.

The boisterous manner in which the protest was held and the rowdy behaviour of some demonstrators had a negative effect internationally. Earlier there was considerable sympathy for Sri Lanka among UN member states notably the non – aligned movement. These feelings however began dissipating after the Weerawansa led demonstration.

Ban Ki moon however continued to emphasise that this panel was only an advisory body set up to advise him and that it was not an official investigative body set up by the UN. He reiterated that the report was only to advise him and nothing further.

In spite of these assertions the Sri Lankan Govt vehemently opposed the move and declined to cooperate with the UN secy –gen in this. Sri Lanka refused to acknowledge the panel and refused to grant visas for the panellists to visit Sri Lanka.

PROCEEDINGS

Consequent to the protests against the panel the LLRC also geared up for action. The LLRC that had been nominated in May began to conduct proceedings in July 2010.Likewise the advisory panel appointed in June commenced work in September 2010. Richard Bennet the former head of the UN field mission in Nepal functioned as secretary to the panel.

Sri Lanka’s dismissal of the panel and strong views articulated conveyed the initial impression that the Island nation was going to stand firm on the matter. But as time went on it appeared that the Govt was not of a singular mindset on this. There seemed to be both hawkish and dovish tendencies within the establishment. While one school of thought wanted a confrontational attitude the other opted for a conciliatory approach.As a result there were conflicting signals.

On one occasion the Govt that had decided not to grant visas to the Darusman panel members was prepared to revise its stance.It was ready to allow the trio into Sri Lanka and observe LLRC proceedings. The panellists were also to be allowed to meet civil society representatives and political leaders. But they would not be able to hold investigations or conduct parallel sittings or participate in LLRC sessions apart from observing.

Predictably, these moves evoked a storm of protest from Weerawansa and others who had protested strongly against the panel being set up. Allowing the panellists into Sri Lanka was tantamount to tacit recognition they argued. The Govt was now in a quandary. But the crisis died down when Darusman and Sooka refused to attend LLRC sittings as mere observers. They wanted a more vibrant role. When this was ruled out the panel declined to visit Sri Lanka.

Another incident demonstrating the vacillating mindset of the Govt was in late February this year. A four member team representing Sri Lanka held a secret meeting with Darusman, Sooka, Ratner and Bennet in New York. Also present was Lynn Pascoe the UN under –secretary for Political affairs.Pascoe had apparently brokered the meeting.

The Sri Lankan team comprised former External Affairs ministry secretary Romesh Jayasinghe, Attorney –General Mohan Peiris, Sri Lankas permanent representative to the UN in New York Palitha Kohona and deputy permanent representative Shavendra Silva. The Sri Lankan delegation had also met with Ban Ki moon earlier in a publicised meeting. Subsequently Prof.GL Peiris confirmed at a press conference in London that a Lankan delegation had indeed met the panel. No further details were disclosed.

REQUESTS

It is learnt however that the Sri Lankan delegation in the meetings with Ban Ki moon and his panellists had explained in detail the significant progress achieved by the LLRC so far. The delegation stated that the LLRC had been given a free hand and that the report would be independent, comprehensive and forthrightly impartial. The LLRC report would meet required international standards it was emphasised.

It is learnt that three specifically related requests were made on behalf of Sri Lanka.The first was that the panel delay finalising its report until the LLRC completed and released its report in May. If that was not possible the second request was that the UN SG not make the report available to the public. If that too was not possible then the third request was that the response of the Sri Lankan Govt to the report be obtained by the UN SG and released simultaneously with the main report

According to diplomatic sources Ban Ki moon had not agreed to the requests but said that he would consider them when making a final decision. Despite Ban Ki moon’s position there seemed to be a sense of optimism in Colombo on the matter. When President Rajapaksa met a gathering of newspaper editors some weeks ago he said that there would be no problem as long as the report was not made public. The president also pointed out that Ban Ki moon had appointed the panel to advise him and that it was an internal advisory report and not a public report.

The Darusman panel finalised its report on March 31st.Ban Ki moon however did not officially hand it over to Sri Lanka for nearly two weeks. Meanwhile neither the UN permanent representative nor deputy permanent representative were able to obtain an advanced copy through their personal influence as is usually the case in matters of this nature.

The UN apparently feared that mass demonstrations endangering UN employees were possible if and when the report was released. A mock drill was done on March 31st to educate UN employees on what to do if a crisis situation occurred. Finally It was on April 12th that the 196 page report was formally handed over to the Sri Lankan mission at the UN.

It is perceived that the timing of the handing over was calculated with the festive season of the Sinhala –Tamil April new year in mind. It is well-known that all things grind to a halt in the days preceding and following the traditional new year in Sri Lanka .It was felt perhaps that the chances of mobilising hostile demonstrators against the UN would be less during the festive season.

DEMONSTRATIONS

The move seems to have succeeded and so far there have been no demonstrations. The Govt too has announced that full protection would be given the UN and its employees in Sri Lanka in response to an appeal by the UN. One reason for the absence of demonstrations may be due to the fact that the UN has not officially released the report yet.Demonstrations may be held if and when that occurs.

The delay in the report being released officially by Ban Ki moon is because the Secretary –general has been awaiting an official response by Sri Lanka. He intends to agree to at least one request made by Sri Lanka and release both the report and response together.But Colombo is yet to convey its official response to contents of the report.

One factor that may be influencing Ban Ki moon in this respect is the experience undergone last year when a UN report on Rwanda was released. Details of the report were “leaked” to the media before the report was released officially .The Rwandan Govt was furious and threatened to pull out its troops from UN peace keeping forces in Africa.Ban Ki moon had to make a special trip to Kigali to cool passions.

Against that backdrop it makes sense for Ban Ki moon to release the report on Sri Lanka along with the official response.Hence the delay. As for Sri Lanka the situation is dicey because providing a response could be interpreted as accepting the report.

While an official release of the report was being anticipated – Sri Lanka being Sri Lanka – another unexpected development occurred. Details of the report began appearing in the media.In the case of Rwanda the report was allegedly leaked by UN circles In the case of Sri Lanka the leak or scoop (depending upon your perspective)was in the Island itself.

Revelations in the Sri Lankan media about details of the report stole the thunder from the long awaited official release by the UN. When journalists covering the UN complained to Ban Ki moon about the report being scooped the Secy –Gen in an official note explained that the leak was not in New York but in Colombo.

ALLEGATIONS

With a series of news stories revealing details of the report appearing in the Sri Lankan media the international media too began quoting them .Gradually the essence of the report in the form of the executive summary and details of other allegations have got into the public domain.

With the finger being pointed at the Sri Lankan Govt External affairs minister Prof .GL Peiris was quizzed on this at a press conference. Peiris denied Govt responsibility and pointed out that the Govt was seeking a non – release of the report and that leaking it to the media ran counter to such a stance. Sri Lankan officials in New York suggested that the leak was by the UN.

If indeed UN sources had leaked the contents it would have been to well-known International media and not the Sri Lankan media. Besides the news reports in Sri Lanka reveal a pattern.The allegations made against the Sri Lankan armed forces are being given prominence in a systematic manner. It appears that all these allegations would be rebutted vehemently in the relevant media in due course.

This shows that the Govt instead of cowering in fear against the UN triggered international onslaught has decided to face the challenge squarely even if not fairly.

Instead of letting the UN and international media publicise the allegations against Sri Lanka the media in the Island has been allowed to jump the gun. In a move akin to taking the bull by its horns an unorthodox but controlled exercise is underway to counter the criticism against Sri Lanka .How well this would fare remains to be seen but the premature publicity in the Sri Lankan media has negated the request by Sri Lanka that contents of the report should not be revealed.

Meanwhile the Govt is going ahead with other plans to counter the report. President Rajapaksa has called upon the country to express solidarity against international conspiracies by demonstrating together on May day or May 1st .While the Govt move to convert the day of workers into a political demonstration against the report has been criticised in some circles there is also an opinion that the President has prudently channelled the protest mood into a single demonstration instead of letting supporters run riot in an ad hoc manner.

RESPONSE

The Govt has also appointed a four member team comprising Attorney – General Mohan Peiris and former diplomats Nihal Rodrigo, HMGS Palihakkara and Bernard Goonetilleka to analyse the report and prepare an adequate response. The Govt is very likely to incorporate the response into a White paper and submit it to Parliament

The Govt is also appealing to South Asian and Non aligned nations in this regard. A diplomatic offensive will be unleashed to solicit the support and solidarity of these countries including India and Pakistan. A campaign is on to obtain signatures from Sri Lankans protesting against the report

External affairs minister prof.GL Peiris met foreign diplomats stationed in Colombo and briefed them of the situation.Outlining the Govt position the minister appealed for support and solidarity from the International community in this respect.

The External affairs minister also held a press conference and lashed out.”The consequences to the UN by publishing the report are far from fortunate. The publishing of the report will inflict even greater damage on the UN system than for Sri Lanka. The UN is based on principles and this action compromises on these core values,” he said. “It is wrong to publish this report or take any steps based on the findings or recommendations of this report,” he further said.

The Minister also questioned the purpose of publishing a report that was sanctioned for an advisory purpose alone. “If this Panel was set up to advise the Secretary General then what need is there to make it public?” he queried.

Peiris further charged that UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon was “transforming” the mandate of the body from an advisory one to an investigative one. “It was stated on six different occasions by the Secretary General that this Panel was a purely advisory one, why is it now being twisted to take on a role outside its mandate,” the Minister asked.

MANDATE

The Minister also reiterated the government stance that the Panel was not one sanctioned by the UN but rather a personal appointment by the Secretary General for advisory purposes. “The panel has overstepped its mandate and is not a formal UN body,” he said. He also refuted claims that the report had been forwarded to the Security Council.

When asked whether the UN had granted the government an opportunity to reply the Minister said that formulating a reply was an arduous task. “This report has been seven months in the making, how are we to reply to a 200 page document in a matter of days,” he asked.

Prof. Peries also claimed that the Sri Lankan government had no hand in leaking the report to the media. “This would be contrary to our self-interest. I am here asking them not to publish the report so what purpose would it serve us to have it made public” he questioned.

He further reiterated that the UN should allow for the Lessons Learnt and Reconciliation Commission to be allowed to fulfill its mandate by May this year.

“Will the release of this report build national unity in the country and further our process of reconciliation? These are the needs of the hour and the report will not serve any of these purposes, rather it will work contrary to these aims,” he said.

Peries said the report such as the Goldstone report on Gaza had been retracted by the author himself for being erroneous and drew parallels between this occurrence and Sri Lanka.

Defence secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa meets with Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Sri Lanka H.E. Valdimir P.Mikhaylov on Apr 20

While making a case out for itself and seeking international support the Govt is relying mainly on Russia and China to be of worthwhile assistance. If things get bad and the issue is taken up by the UN security council following the release of the report the expectation is that Russia and China would veto any anti – Sri Lanka moves. Defence secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa has in a media interview stated that Sri Lanka would be forced to turn to China and Russia if the UN did not protect its member states.

IMPORTANCE

[L] to [R] Nirupama Menon Rao, Foreign Secretary of India, Robert O Blake, Jr., Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs and former United States Ambassador to Sri Lanka and Maldives and William Hague MP – First Secretary of State, Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs UK

While the importance of China and Russia cannot be underestimated the crucial and critical countries in this issue are the USA ,Britain and India. It is widely believed that the USA and Britain are firmly endorsing the UN moves in this regard. India on the other hand seems to be playing the role of a passive spectator as the great game unfolds. What further roles these countries would play or not play in the days to come would determine the course of events for Sri Lanka.

Sri Lanka however is persisting with efforts to prevent the report being released Although the UN had intended to release it officially on Thursday April 21st the decision was postponed. This was in deference to a request made by Prof. GL Peiris that the UN secy –gen should not release it until he discusses the issue with him.

Ban Ki moon has agreed to the request and a one to one discussion between Ban Ki moon and Gamini Lakshman Peiris has been scheduled for Saturday April 23rd. At the time of this article being written it was unclear as to whether the Sri Lankan external affairs minister would fly out to New York or whether there would be a New York – Colombo conversation on Skype. It is however clear that Sri Lanka is making a last ditch attempt to prevent the report being released to the public.

It remains to be seen as to whether Professor Peiris would succeed in convincing Ban Ki moon not to release the report. If Peiris fails in his mission it is very likely that the report would be released on Monday April 25th or early next week by Ban Ki moon.

Que sera!sera!!

DBS Jeyaraj can be reached on djeyaraj2005@yahoo.com

(pictures courtesy of Inner City Press, Defence.lk)

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531 Comments

  1. .
    Also note that the main reason for many nations supporting Srilanka during 2009 Geneva meeting was, at that time these friendly nations thought Srilanka would come to a political settlement with Tamils.

    Now these nations, especially India, have seen the true face of Srilankan Leaders.

    Ever tried to straighten a dog’s tail?

    🙂

  2. All depends on Mother India, how assertive & calculated role that she will play for their own geo-political interest. Russian & majority of the non- align nations votes are Indian default votes. Chinese vote depends on how serious the US/EU in their words to convince China. It is simply a geo-political power play, true justice for the victims only a secondary effect.
    In the mean time, local politicians in srilanka both MR regime & opposition do not know how to capitalize on UN report. However, MR regime will have rough road a head either way, if Time magazine outcome, deserving indian hospitality at world cup shed a few clues.

  3. This another story of ‘Little now more later’

    How does a report of an advisory panel become a UN document to be released?. This document is blown out of proportion as to be a ‘Finding’ that warrants a trial. The best recourse is legal action against the UN SG on the essence of unsubstantiated data contained therein.

    Perhaps after this Ban ki Moon will appoint a panel to look into the ‘Murder of its won citizens’ by Qaddaffi which warranted a UN backed destruction of that country. We all know how they found the Weapons of Mass destruction in Iraq.

    All peaceloving Citizens would need to be conscious of the hidden agenda behind all this and anticipate more to come to de-stabilise this country

  4. Umpires gave the benefit of the doubt to Sri Lanka in Geneva. Now that the third umpires and the international community have seen the replay (in slow motion), the mood may be different. Sri Lanka could have effectively mitigated any potential international outcry by appropriate post war behaviour. Serious efforts to resolve the ethnic conflict also would have shielded Sri Lankan leadership from war crime accusations. Sri Lankan leadership seemed to have failed in both counts.

    I am not sure where this will lead us!

  5. What would be the implication if the report is released officially? since everyone knows the real of the report content form the Sri Lankan government’s leak to Island paper.

  6. World has full of agendas so is an individuals. But one thing is in common, the outcome-powerful wins. Tamils are not exceptions, nor the Sinhalese. Small & bigger countries not at all different either. But some people do differently to keep themselves out of the game- respect the rights of one another, rule of law & justice for their own citizen.

  7. The intentions and machinations of the Govt are obviously meant to avoid any international scrutiny into the last days of the war and monitoring of the present state of play in the North and North East.
    Clearly the Govt has its own agenda for the Northern areas which does not include a political solution. This includes colonisation, changing of demographic patterns, marginalisation of minorities in other areas etc.Presumably this is the homegrown solution being implemented by Rajapakse through his siblings and military. The issues of accountability and justice do not figure in his scheme of action.
    It would be a tragedy if the UN and International Community allow this to go unchecked given the results of such policies in countries like Egypt, Lybia, Myammar etc.

  8. The UN report is not against Sri Lanka and its people, it is against the present government and the LTTE (both war criminals). The SL government could have avoided all these if they had solved the ethnic issue after the war. SL government promised India that it will find a political solution to the ethnic issue after the war but years passed and nothing done, they hoodwinked the Tamils, India and the whole world. Now, most of the countries know the intention of SL government, they have lost the support from many countries. The present ultra-nationalist SL government may be powerful within the country (due to a spineless opposition) but they have become very unpopular outside, which will affect the progress of the country.

  9. Sri Lankans generally exaggerate the importance of the so-called “Geneva Consensus” and what Dayan Jayatilleka did.

    The UN HRC has been a joke all along–with dictatorships like Libya and Egypt playing a major role.
    I always maintained that the issue would come up again.
    When Ban appointed the panel to advise him alone, there was a suggestion that the report wouldn’t be published and some said it was going to be an eyewash. I argued in these forums that, while the report could indeed end up as an eyewash, any panel would be welcome because it would keep the issue alive until a right avenue for justice comes along. I also argued that, given the vast bureaucracy that is the UN, such reports would inevitably be leaked. Although it appears to have been leaked by the GoSL to The Island, had it not happened, it would still have leaked at some later stage.

    With all that is happening in the Middle East, whatever happened at the UNHRC when Jayatilleka was at the UN is a thing of the past. It is irrelevant now. The war crimes issue is not going away, no matter what anyone says. The way GoSL is handling the panel report amply shows it. As Gordon Weiss says, Sri Lanka indeed has to face its Srebrenica moment.

  10. Shan says:
    April 22, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    Let us pray for peace for those living in Srilanka
    ___________________________
    Amen !

  11. Thank u DBSJ this is a very good article. Revealing the events leading to the present hot spot.

    It is obvious MR’s competency in external affairs is not as good as his internal affairs.
    only problem is in taking an uncompromised stand is that, our country is soo small compared to India, russia & china. So we need to take things in perspective of our size and its strategic importance too.

    We are now reaping the bad fruits of appointing political stooges to important positions. While the competent persons were kept aside for political reasons.

    There seems to be many more lessons to be learnt before we put our house in order. Again I would hope wiser counsel will prevail over this matter.

  12. NO big deal in releasing this ‘so called” report as already it is been leaked to the press…but what is weired is the conduct of the SG…He is not the god almighty…He has a mandate to be impartial to its mamber states….

    Reports are been written and published all the time if we only mean what we write the world would have been a much more better place to live..Moon’s ‘lida laga sangam’report is no different..afterall we all live by selling something..I sell my skills of marketing to live or to put bread on the table……same goes with this panel afterall they do all what we do…..

    But what is so pathetic is that Sri Lankan Tamils in the North are starting their lives after so many years of darkness and the children are going back to schools which is the most important thing for me…I just dont know ppl who cry fowl in this world forums do anything constuctive to this cause.It is easy to disagree and misunderstand.

  13. Its obvious underlying the push for ‘war crimes’ is an agenda where some feel a need for a political solution. Mixing of agenda is dangerous as the country will be forced to accept solutions based other factors than its own merit. Its clear now Mahinda Rajapaske was right all along on how to end the bloodshed. If he had stopped for a ceasefire as these UN and others ‘experts’ were insisting where would we be? We will have LTTE wanting to ‘normalise’ things again while killings continue unabated. If Mahinda Rajapaske thinks what needs now is economic development only then on what basis do you disagree? What has UN, India, Ranil Wickramasinhe or Tamil diaspora had insisted before that has ever worked? I think we need to be practical here for the sake of everyone.

  14. India has to take a stand in this. It cannot keep on protecting the regime in Sri Lanka. India may have helped the SL in defeating the LTTE. It would have done it in the belief that the SLG would do some thing in the direction of sustainable peace and political settlement.

    Nothing of that sort came out of it.

    If India keeps supporting SL on this then its own Tamil population will get angry. That situation no Govt will take.

    Two golden years have been wasted by the SL Govt. That is the crux of the matter. Had the SL govt acted or moved ahead with some political soln, then may be International Community would have turned the other way round.

    Instead they talked that they are the victors and they need to give nothing to the vanquished.

    Let us wait and see what happens.

  15. If GOSL is not the source to leak the document, then who leaked to Island ( pro GOSL – pro Sinhala) news paper. Without the copy of this report ( seems every one is quoting Island), no one could have known any contents. Any idea ?

  16. Impartial

    “Such slandering on flimsy grounds is unacceptable. The members of both the LLRC and the Ki moon advisory panel are persons of integrity whose independence and impartiality deserves respect unless and until proved otherwise”

    DBS; I am not sure whether the above statement is true?. You must understnd that UN obejective was “Accountability” and whether members fo LLRC will be able to deliver that?

    With respect to UN SG panel, the obejective was to examine whether there were any “WAR CRIMES” commited by both sides?(LTTE & GOSL).

  17. Mahesh says:
    If India keeps supporting SL on this then its own Tamil population will get angry. That situation no Govt will take.

    ——-
    Indian Tamils are up against DMK & Congress governments on two major issues:
    1. Internal affairs- Corruption.
    2. External affairs- Srilanka Foreign policy.

    Tamil nadu Election results will set clear direction, towards India’s foreign policy for Srilanka.

  18. Russia is guilty of great human rights abuses in Chechnya. China is guilty of gross human rights abuses in Tibet. That is why these two countries consistently support Sri Lanka – they want to cover up their own dismal human rights record.

  19. What will this so called report achieve.
    Will it make Sri Lankan Tamil’s life more comfortable?
    Will it settle IDP’s in there old houses (including thousands of Sinhalese & Muslims who chased out by LTTE from North & East)
    Will it give back lives of Aranthalawa Bhudist monks.
    Will it bring back Kadiragamar, Amirthalingam or Uma Maheshwaran.
    Will it bring back Lalith Athulathmudali, Gamini Disanayake, or Ranasinghe Premadasa.
    Will it bring back Dr. Rajini Thiranagama.
    Will it stop bombing of Libya by US and NATO.
    Will it give Democracy to Saudi Arabian or Bahrain ppl
    Will it feed the hungry ppl in Africa.
    Will it stop harassing of Iran Or China by US..
    What does UN expect SL Govt or ppl to do?
    Expel MR……????? Send GOTA Raja to prison…????
    Disgrace all celebrated war heroes…??????????
    Help Sri Lankan ppl to elect a UNP government and Ranil Wikramasinghe as a new president….????
    Is UN living in a Dream Land same as some of the Tamil Diaspora.
    When UN says there are war crime allegations against both LTTE and SLGOV when there is no more LTTE……………………………….
    Where was this UN when LTTE was all powerful with child soldiers…
    We didn’t hear them talking about human rights then……………
    What does UN expect MR to do “during the final stages of the conflict”…… Go back to negotiation table…???? Giving Prabakaran a ceasefire period….????? Taking Prabakaran and the gang as POWs…???????
    MR and the company have done what Sri Lankan ppl wants them to do… expect them to do…. They have finished a bloody war of 30 years…

    http://www.defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20061115_02

    http://www.spur.asn.au/prominent_tamil_leaders_killed.htm

  20. Who wants to know how the war was fought. All that was required was to know whether the war had ended.
    As for the US & their Allies & the NATO their was are being fought & yet to end.
    For the Phillippines, their war in Mindanao still exists.
    Spaian, Basque seperatist yet remain.
    To Canada, the Quebec issue is yet on the cards.
    In Brittain, the splinter IRA groups yet cause sporadic incidents.
    As for SL for now the Terrorism has ended.

    In all these places there is a home grown solution.
    Hence, what is this issue on Sri Lanka. What is the political solution the outside of Sri Lanka seek?
    What was the political solution in place for those Tamils who lived outside the North & East up to the time the Terrorists were defeated? Is it any diffrent from now? Then what is this Political Solution sought?
    The Tamil population has dwindled to 5% of the population in Sri Lanka. So what does the outside want Sri Lanka to consider?
    Take in to account the population in Toronto. The Tamil population is defenitely more than 5%. Will the Tamils there too demand a political solution.

    This Sri Lanka issue is certainly Geo-Political. Hence, untill those vested parties settle their differences, the Sri Lanka issue will never be laid to rest.
    Super Power battle for supremacy on Sri Lanka soil.

    Is the WW (III) to be ignited from the Indian Ocean. So much for super power dominance?
    Its time Countries stop meddling in o9thers internal affairs. If not, is it the New World Order??

    War crimes ? What about the crimes committed by the terrorists on their own people. This must be addressed first.

    “People without sin need to cast the first stone”…….. Who are they in this instance???? Any ??

    III

  21. One final question.
    How many civilians died in Iraq in US invasion.
    Can UN / Ban-Ki-moon appoint a panel to investigate war crimes against Iraqi ppl.

  22. I believe the reports leaked by UN itself to see the public rection. Moon now know the reaction of the public is not in favour his report. Mostly, Moon will stop publishing the report.

    H S De Silva:
    American backed terror will be countered by Russia and China. Human Rights is a farce to intimidate states who are not accepting American hooliganism. Who are the people pay these “Human Rights” orgs.? Why do only WHITES are crying about HR issues while they make and supply GUNS to all criminal gangs all over the world?

  23. Yes.. and the US in Iraq and Afghanistan… So… what’s new…?

    All minorities should realize the importance of just surviving…! Taking up arms and killing a few of the majority never works.! Unless, you are an Israeli….! Now, we all know how that goes…!

    I hope the Chinese, Russians and Indians will do their part to keep the UN off Sri Lanka’s back. If they don’t, it will come back and bite them as well…!

    The Sri Lankan Tamils will benefit most of all..! They will go back to being the best that they can be and all of Sri Lanka will be better for it and Sri Lankans know it.!

  24. Dear Mr. H S De Silva

    Fine you find fault with both Russia and China.

    How about mentioning massive war crimes in Iraq and Afganistan by UK and USA as well?

    Do not forget crimes committed by the Pakistan Army cleaning up the Swat Valley, cheered on by the West.

    Why is everyone so upset with Sri Lanka for removing the LTTE cancer after 3o years of untold suffering by all her people, specially Tamils?

    I am no fan of the Rajapakse clan or regime. But, please lets give Sri Lanka a chance.

  25. how ever your tamil you got have great support no. sinhalvan always modayo no well but tamils always brilliant no keep it up see with drope on neck or ele.chair fear already catch up all MR and CO,vallaka tamil velluka tamil eleam.

  26. yes india has to think twise because having finished the bloody tamil tigers,we have entire south asia freedom and peace.therfore all the asian countris have to think tamil tigers has been a big problems for even indian nation and the entire world.theirfore please everybody has to open their eyes and realize srilanken governmant has fought against one of the world ruthles terrorist call tamil tigers.

  27. Ben Hurling
    Why is everyone so upset with Sri Lanka for removing the LTTE cancer after 3o years of untold suffering by all her people, specially Tamils?

    ————–

    I guess the whole world is against Tamils and dont want Tamils out of untold suffering and to live in peace 🙁

  28. Noel
    All minorities should realize the importance of just surviving
    The Sri Lankan Tamils will benefit most of all

    ————
    Appreciate your genuine concern for Tamils and India.. 🙂
    Some shed crocodile tears for Tamils.

  29. It is sad to see that some Srilankans still unable to see the bottom line – main interest of the western countries is to dialute the Chinese influence in these part of the world – I think to a grate extent current turmoils in the african countries and the selective support of western powers for these turmoils are also for the same reason – because African continent is rich in oil, and metals that are needed for the survival of big industries – China unlike hyper active egoistic western powers – were carefully spreading their tenticles in Africa and to make the matters worse refused to share these precious stuff with west – So west uses their common slogan of protecting HR of the people of Africa and trying to be the traffic cop of the world – but the problem – they create more traffic problems than solving – In the case of Srilanka – China will definetly put their weight behind lanka if and when BAN KI MOON’s UN try to intervane in Srilankan affairs- for the time being – nothing to worry – BAN KI can do nothing other than appointing personnel advisors and and asking them to write reports – that is his private bussiness – to take action against SL he had to go to UN council until then we can canvesse among SL diplomatic community for their help in tthe future

  30. manuri-toronto says:
    April 22, 2011 at 10:52 pm
    But what is so pathetic is that Sri Lankan Tamils in the North are starting their lives after so many years of darkness and the children are going back to schools which is the most important thing for me…I just dont know ppl who cry fowl in this world forums do anything constuctive to this cause.It is easy to disagree and misunderstand.
    ————————————-

    You are spot on girl. this is my worry too.

  31. With regards to this Ban’s report, there are few questions need to be answered by some one.

    1) Why did SL leak (Rajapakse leaks ) the portion of the report to pro government newspaper Island?
    2) Why did the president say “I’m willing to go the electric chair with a smile for the sake of motherland?”
    3) At the same time Why did the president call for mass demonstrations on May Day

    this is not a UN report , this report is for Ban’s consumption, if this report needs to go further , it has to go UNSC , Russia has already stated they will block (remember Russia had US $ 300 million worth of arms deal with SL in 2010 , Chechnya war crimes ) at the UNSC and china will follow suit (geo political interests and enormous investment in SL i.e Hambanthota, Shangri la etc ), our president claims zero casualties during the humanitarian operation and the real war hero General Sarath Fonseka claims he will bear all the responsibilities what has happened during the war, on top of this Mr Ranil Wickramasinghe did not sign the Rome statute , hence no one can be taken to Hague for war crimes. say it did go to to UNSC , still it needs an investigation , which might takes good few years to come to conclusion, after that only they could call for a hearing in Hague, I’m puzzled and amazed of this sudden turn of events taking place in SL ,
    can any one dismiss , this is not a another political gimmick to hood wink the masses for a very long time ,just to keep away away from the real burning issues like cost of living, recent price hikes gas, petrol, flour, bus fares etc .if one takes in to the considerations of so many distractions created by MR to dupe the gullible sri lankan earlier occasions i.e the war , IIFA, Hambanthota port saga , opening of power plants for public , world cup cricket etc..

  32. It’s sad to see that the UN has once again fallen prey to the Western financial culpability/domination and their vested interest! Is that the mandate of the UN? Will the UN HR Council intervene if the US, France or UK breaks into civil war and when the State/Govt. uses its army /military forces to repeal domestic violence [terrorist]. Or is the word “terrorist” inter changeable to suit the UN HR Council and its vested alliance.

    Why did the UN not intervene in US, UK or France? Or when US African community where persecuted by the white American government backed cults/clans [http://www.counterpunch.org/stephens05132005.html ]? Or has the UN HR Council forgotten Ireland’s civil war and its leaders? Or more recently, when Bush, Dickcheny were found fabricating WMD’s in order to gain access to natural resources, at the expense of many thousand Iraqi lives [see wikileaks/John Perkins http://www.johnperkins.org/ also see http://www.counterpunch.org/stephens05132005.html%5D ?? Why is there no probe into the Abu Gharib torture chambers? Why not investigate the Goldstone report? Why not investigate Tony Blair/Gordon Brown’s UK government for war crimes and gruesome torture in Iraq [see UK Guardian 23rd March 2010 & AI report and http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21143%5D? Is this something beyond the scope of UN HR Council when blood is shed with UN impunity and approval? Where is justice and the needed closure to the many families who have suffered by such atrocities at the hands of UK, US and UN/France, what happened “Justice/Democracy to the World at large and their pain”/Investigation into Human Rights ??

    “Let he who is without any sin among you caste the first stone” [John passage-8]

    The idea of ‘International Justice’, ‘Universal Right to Human Rights’ and ‘Human Equality’ is now none existent in the UN charter, it’s a shame to see the UN/US/UK/EU display its duplicity. The instigators subtle hand is evident to all of the Developing World and to all those who see its immorality in their line of work and destabilizing approach opponents of West is Best Ideology. This inaction by the UN HR council and the many lapses of investigation into its own Security Council Members is glaring and shameful to all righteous men. The UN is not worthy of serious thought and its ad hoc work is mere waste of Western Tax Payers Funds. Clearly what this report says it’s good to kill one ethnic group [the Sinhalese and Muslims, Moors, Burghers] who DO NOT seek favor with the West. Or put differently the UN HR Council supports those who sell their motherland to gain political asylum/social welfare from the West/Political patronage. It has been proved beyond reasonable doubt [see wikieleaks/John Perkins] that the same US/UN diplomats who talk about “War Crimes” and “Human Rights” obtain financial support for their own political campaigns/office, with social welfare monies been provided by the so called “domestic tax base” [see Political Corruption in America: an encyclopedia of scandals, power, and greed By Mark Grossman].

    What needs to be understood, is that in any civil conflict there is no one side that is right/wrong, nor can any side hold moral right to inflict death and destruction on another group for want of reason. In that case will the UN HR Council hold LTTE financiers and their sympathizer accountable? Will the UN bring the LTTE to book and also hand out equal punishment to those Sri Lankan’s [Tamils] who funded, colluded with the LTTE -Terrorist Org so deemed by US/UK/EU states, to commit many atrocities and destruction home and abroad? Aren’t they too found to be ‘Mens rea’ or to be held as accessory to mass murder?

    Sri Lanka does not need advice from outsiders. Therefore, let the people of Sri Lanka [all ethnic groups on the ground, who have suffered through a life time of 30 years because of the war, mentally and physically] deal with healing and reconciliation process in manner that will be right by all communities that have been affected. Both parties have had their fare share of death, loss of assets and loss of appreciation for life. Let the people who lived through this on the ground, therefore, deal with the wounds and find a path to mutual self respect, shared reconciliation and dignified co-habitation. The UN can keep its “So called” report in a place where it so chooses it belongs. As it does not belong to the People of SRI LANKA!

  33. All srilankans and interested parties are happy about the erradication of LTTE, but the SL Gvt also killed thousands of civilians, the war victory was not tactical, they destroyed a large area believing atleast one LTTE will die with 25 civilians. THis was the strategy, they were successful at the cost of the tamil people itself. Now they have to face the results, two wrongs will not make a right, two years have passed after LTTE is gone, defends exp has increased, security for all politicians have increased, tamils still live behind barbed wires, lack of food, no freedom of movement, harrassed, raped, robbed, dissapeard, killed, tortured everyday. Now tamil land is stolen and singhalese are settled there, the govt should face war crime tribunal. No govt will bring an ending settlement for the tamils, this has been the worst govt of all times. Srilankans are so godayas they dont know whats happ. in the outside world, every one thinks like weerawansa.

  34. Mahesh says:
    India has to take a stand in this. It cannot keep on protecting the regime in Sri Lanka.
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    For India to have any credibility in these cases, first it will have to withdraw its military forces from Kashmir where unarmed people are being shot for just indulging in peaceful protest. Hold the plebiscite that it promised to the UN and world that it will let Kashmiri people decide what their political aspirations are.

  35. Whatever report says,

    Kids don’t bear rifles now.
    Young women don’t blew themselves up.
    No civilians killed by air strikes.
    No shelling either.
    No claymore attacks on buses.
    White vans disappeared not young men.
    This is what people needed.

    Forget the unchangeable past & move forward.
    Future will be better than ever.
    That’s the best justice we can give for all fallen 100,000+
    Than digging graves they rest in peace.

  36. when war ended in may 2009 resolution against srilanka was comphrehensively defeated in unhrc becoz countries those who voted had similar political structure and their human rights record was equally abysmal like srilanka.countries which voted for srilanka libya,pakistan,egypt,cuba.dayan jayatilake could convince those countries by speaking in their own language ie dogmatic communist ideology.times have changed libya itself under siege,egypt has seen a change in the leadership,lastly india which was quite optimistic that vanquishing of tigers will result in political solution to srilankan problem is very disappointed at the glacial progress of talks between tamil parties and government with no sight of any solution.one more reason i doubt this time india will support srilanka is becoz both dravidian parties in tamil nadu have come out with a statement calling for punishing of guilty in the final stages of war which is unprecedented.normally aiadmk led by jayalalithaa has always taken an anti tiger stand this time jayalalitha has issued a statement calling for rajapakshe to be tried for war crimes.congress party cant afford to be soft on rajapakshe it may cost the party heavily in the state of tamil nadu hence one has every reason to suspect india will not come to the aid of srilanka.srilankans casting aside their ethnic chauvinism have to come to terms with the united nations report.rajapakshes are not only detrimental to tamils they are to sinhalese as well hence my appeal to sinhalese is ditch rajapakshes and open a new chapter.lastly i would like to make some comments on dayan jayatilake though i know jey you have high regard for him but i am skeptical about his writings ,his writings are sugar coated stuff reeking of sinhalese chauvinism.

  37. As the Russians stated, this so called UN Report is not sanctioned by UN members but a personal advisory request from Ban Ki- moon. This outrageous attempt to harm the ethnic reconciliation process underway in Sri Lanka will create bitterness and division among the communities. All the fact finding this panel did was from Tamil diaspora who financed LTTE and the die-hard supporters of LTTE. What do you expect to find ? The mistake the democratically elected Sri Lankan government did was not to allow this panel to visit Sri Lanka and talk to the people who were caught in the middle to find the truth. Government thought this UN panel will destabilise their own Truth and Reconciliation Commission, therefore they refused to cooperate.

    Let us analyse why UN is doing this.
    Prior to the ending of war, internationally banned terrorist outfit LTTE has been running a virtual government in Nnorth and East of the country forcefully taking away the children and training them as suicide bombers ,the concept they invented that other terrorists follow at present. This war has been going on for three decades where LTTE violated the rights of people ruling by the gun financially supported by Tamil diaspora overseas.

    During the final phase of the war in which Sri Lankan forces eliminated the LTTE and rescued hundred of thousands of civilians held captive as a human shield, USA, UK and Norway governments requested SL government to stop the war and offered safe passage to airlift 100 odd top leaders of LTTE and their families. USA did not want SL to be the first country to defeat terrorism when they were in a mess to control Iraq and Afghanistan. Also as per Wiki-leaks the Tamil diaspora virtually blackmailed western politicians for votes if they did not support LTTE. LTTE has smuggled the Tamil diasporas and smartly settled them in certain electorates to get the numbers significant enough have a say.

    Sri Lankan leaders stubbornly asked the West to go to hell. Wiki-leaks confirm what was said to David Milliband and the French FM in Colombo. This is why these countries have a vendetta against Sri Lanka for revenge. They were the colonial masters after all. Now most of the UN funding comes from these western countries especially USA. It is not rocket science to understand UN is a puppet of the western world. UN sanctions, the invasion of countries western powers don’t like / vested interest in resources are paving way to massive human right violation of civilians caught in the middle.

    Ban Ki-moon is near the end of his term in office and is due for re-election. No secretary general is appointed without the blessing of the major funding nations. Who is Mr Ban trying to please now? Sri Lankan nation or his masters who can reappoint him? Ban Ki Moon and his UN does not care a donkey about what the truth is but only their own interests. I wonder what the UN has to say regarding the Iraq indiscriminate bombing (shock and awe tactics), Guantanamo Bay enquiry in US and Iraq enquiry in UK that were swept under the carpet by the respective governments.

  38. Hope and wish the SL political community and in particular Tamils would see the psychology behind this drama.

    1) SL gov and MR are scared of truth coming out otherwise they would not oppose the release. They would have welcomed it .
    2) Powerfull countries will NOT agree to be TOLD what to do, India , China, Russia are not deciding powers in the current world order although they have some power but not enough to change the tide.

  39. It is totally & utterly wrong People like Prof.GL Peris or educated elite cover up the crimes and lie on international arena as they don’t know anything.Worse SL Top Bikkus defend the crimes against Humanity.
    Think about 2,000 years of Genocide cover up in the Mahavamsa against Native Tamil peoples of the land.
    Not adding the chapter of Mahinda but this 200 pages report will speak the real history.

  40. DBS says “Jayatilleka was also responsible for resisting UN pressures on Sri Lanka and stridently articulating the viewpoint of Colombo in the corridors and halls of Geneva”.

    Well this is all what 5 star diplomacy stand for, particularly in UN…It’s just lobbying and networking.No professional or logical thinking, no humanity, no equity…

    Expatriate says “As Gordon Weiss says, Sri Lanka indeed has to face its Srebrenica moment”…. Well this man Gordon Weiss was as extremist full of anger and revenge with Sri Lanka even before he was deported. In closed circles, lunches, dinners etc he used to continue mocking at Sri Lanka nation… Most of the Europen UN staff has personal deal with H.E. Mahinda simply because not for governance issues but he defeated the LTTE. Most elite Sri Lankans (including those working in UN) have ill feeling of the president simply because he does not represent their socioeconomic layer. All these hypocrats play the governance and human rights cards on the surface but the reality is their dislike to President Rajapaksha. Sameway they have no concern on innocent Sinhala and Tamil civilians and their future…

    In my tenure in UN I regret that I see how things work at “higher level”. I further burn in pain since I know that it is the personal agendas or desires of top people that transformed in to diplomatic bullets giving them formal attire.

    UN does not represent the true human beings in this world but majority of it consist of half cooked keyboard professionals whose only skill is “englsih lieracy” and ability to “looby and network”

    Sri Lanka desrved using any tactic against the LTTE since it was not Tamil people that fought during Elam war 4. It was an international battle against big shots with vested interests (including India). Immeaidate aftermath of their defeat was the Fonseka episode where I personally feel CIA and RAW were bedind.

    LTTE penetrated in to UN, HRW, Amenesty, BBC etc through exactly lobbying and networking. It was not the views of ordiniray Tamils and Sinhalese but the vested views of English literate P. Saranawanamuttu and Lasantha Wickramathunga that always be prefered by lazy and hypocratic UN and INGOs inclusing the Western Ambessoders. This vicious circle must be reversed by appointing country loving and grass rooted professionals in diplomatic circles.

    I also have critisisms on President Rajapaksha’s governance but why only should be criticised? JRJ, Premadasa, Chandrika, Ranil….were they siants? or did they have good governance? They all killed 1000s of youth in both North and South.. Particularly when Sinhala youths were killed no International cry was there at all. Even with Tamil civilians…who forced Chandrika to investigate Rivirasa?… Why no body is asking how IPKF raped and killed Tamils??

    The real law in this world is “survival of the fittest”. In our case Sri Lanka’s geopolitical location and resourxefull land and Buddism are the factors that make it vulnerable.

    Patriot Sri Lankans in all levels let us use all our skills to stand with the President Mahinda Rajapaksha at this moment to defeat the hooligans. Let’s push him on governance issues later….First save him and mother Lanka from the wolfs.

    I am a UN officer who is proud to call my self a Patriot.

  41. 1. Both LTTE and GOSL got arm supplies not only from the white countries but also from non white countries.UN report or Ban Kee Moon’s report accuse both LTTE and GOSL for war crimes. Let transparency, accountability based on proper investigation prevail

    2. Russia and China are permanent members of UN and integral part of it. It is strange that many comments condemn UN and seperate these two permanent members from the UN. India and South Africa are part of UN too. So too are SL, Pakistan, Myanmar

    So why can not you all wait see the ball game within the UN

    3. Why did not or could not Russia, China,India as powerful members of UN , prevent the wars in Iraq, Afganistan, Libya and so on….? Do not they play the same ball game the West play ?

    4. By talking about double standards they are accepting the charges but not happy about the process . In all cases the poor civilians ( both dead and the living and the future generations suffer the most. Accountability and justice which are part of high politics must prevail.

  42. If 5 or 10 persons are killed at the same time by violent means anywhere in the Central, Southern or Western parts of Sri Lanka, a very big fuss is created by everyone concerned. The IGP appoints about half-a-dozen separate police teams to investigate the crimes, ruling party politicians visit and sympathize with the victims’ families and there is very wide news coverage of the incident on TV and the Colombo newspapers. Great efforts are made to track down and bring to justice the criminals responsible for committing these acts.

    In sharp contrast, if 5 thousand or 10 thousand people living in the Northern or Eastern Province happen to die by violent means within a short space of time, the matter does not even merit any acknowledgement or response by any of the aforementioned parties. A news blackout is imposed, with news reporters and independent observers prevented from visiting the scene. There will be no police teams to make any investigations and the politicians will pretend that nothing happened. No inquiry will be held and the 5 thousand or 10 thousand skeletons will be swept under the carpet by the Government. That is the Law in Sri Lanka, Amen!

    Maran.
    Maran

  43. The west is using moral as a weapon to divide and create wars around the world. The west is using democracy and human rights as a weapon to divide and create wars to keep others under them. But the Tamils and Arabs have no idea what is going on. I am a Tamil and I have a business degree and red hundreds of books on politics and western invasions. I live in Canada. I lived 21 years in the western world. I have seen their dirty democracy. But I have no way of educating rest of the Tamils. The Western intelligence members are keeping me isolated, by telling all kind of lies to others in order to keep me isolated from the Tamil community. The Tamil Diasporas will not have a decent Tamil leader, the west is keeping them in blindness in order to use them.

  44. Tamils already know there will be no justice for the victims, but whats wrong with the truth coming out? Reconciliation will not be possible unless both Tamils and Sinhalese admit their violent excesses. Most Tamils will acknowledge that the tigers used terrorism and that the ends no longer justify the means. It is time for the Sinhalese nation to admit their crimes as well and to deny facts will only cultivate distrust and compromise any future chances of reconciliation.

  45. Our Sinhalese people are foolish gullible. For them what ever Mahinda Rajapakase says is Jaathi Aaley (Patriotism). He said, on behalf of our nation and our country, I am ready to go to the electric chair smiling. The gullible Sinhala masses believe that he is the greatest Sinhala patriot mother Lanka has ever produced.

    For the crime they have commited and still commiting, the Rajapakses should get the same treatment that Saddam Husain got. Tens of thousands of human that died due to the Rajapakshes are asking for justice from the grave. If UN does not punish the Rajapakshes, nature/God will definetely punish them. Mahinda and Gota are responsible for crime against humanity and they should be punished.

  46. Ben Hurling

    I am no fan of the Rajapakse clan or regime. But, please lets give Sri Lanka a chance.

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    Sri Lanka has been given a lots of chances. They never utilized it. They broke all the accords. They then entered into an accord with India and it was also broken.

    Now the LTTE is no more. They could have settled the issue from a position of strength. They didn’t use the opportunity.

    Only some multilateral coercion will make sri lankans see reason.

    They seem to suffer from a bloated sense of Nationalism and jingoism.

    They will use their freedom to indulge in genocide and twisting of the history.

    It is high time that IC takes action against them.

  47. I was told by some reliable sources that MR was dropped from the Time’s poll not because of the War crimes but because of the concerted campaign to vote online by Srilankan Authority ( Hindustan Time also reported that one Government officer send 2500 email to ask his contacts to vote). In the Electronic era, it is obvious the IP address and country of which in fact the town and the domain can be easily traced)

    Obviously He might come in the top 10 if not for the open campaign by the GOSL offciers- Poor diplomacy

  48. C. Sugumar:
    When crimes are committed in most of the places in Sri Lanka except North and East, people will moan and complain about the high crime rates and why police does not take action and so on and so fort. When police or some other organization went on and killed off most of the underworld thugs in Colombo and other areas, no one said anything about law and order an due process. No international agency or human rights groups expressed any concern about extra-judicial killings.

    Compare that to what would happen if the same thing was to happen in North and East. There will be an international out cry about how government sanctioned thugs are terrorizing the Tamils. UN and the Human Rights Watch will demand and international inquiry and there will be talk of sanctions. That is the law and order situation in the current Sri Lanka.

    To read what some people write and say, one would think that there is absolutely no crime in the Southern Areas and what ever crime that is occurring in the North and East is Sinhalese attacking Tamils.

  49. DBSJ

    Excellent article.You have given a good history of the whole process that took place from may 2009 and made everything very clear for all us for which we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. It is even more admirable as being not in sound health,duty comes first.

    An interesting para from your article is

    [Despite these moves and counter moves the LLRC did not commence sittings for quite a while. This lethargy was shed when Ban Ki moon in a controversial move went ahead with his earlier intention of appointing an advisory panel.]

    These fellows just don’t understand our “Porunthuwela Enda; passa balamu” (Promise and come; we’ll see later) culture.They must be expecting a country with 2500 year culture,to start learning theirs. That is why we brought back dayan also because he was too westernised and too cut and dried.No means no with him and yes means yes like a bloody westerner.So we sent our man who is steeped in our culture. As you know when we give a appointment for a particular time we don’t mean it in our culture.In fact former president chandrika will come and meet you in the evening for a morning appointment and vise versa, with the appointee wondering whether he has made a mistake on the AM and PM.Bloody hell they should be thankful that we turn up at all,which we frequently don’t because we have genuinely forgotten, but can always say we were sick and told someone to cancel the appointment,but they didn’t.These fellows should learn our culture first when dealing with us , not vise versa. In fact when we go to japan we eat the raw fish and tell them how tasty it is before bringing out the begging bowl.We don’t tell them the truth that they are not human to eat this stuff and must have come from the planet of the apes.We respect and follow their culture and show our joy at eating their food and stuff our mouths with joyous face and go to the bathroom and vomit. That is the srilankan way.

    So looks like all this happenned because banki misunderstood our culture. If he is going to be the UN Secretary general for a second term, he better start learning the culture of the nations first.

    Anyway he brought it up at the correct time,because it is the korean culture of saying happy new year.

  50. Ranjan, Toronto

    The Sinhalese like Ranjan should come to expect more from their government rather than thinking like Modayas. Then there will be no UN panels.Two wrongs don’t make a right. Just because Police are killing persons who are presumed guilty of thuggery in Colombo, does not justify they could kill in North and East without due process.Just because innocent journalists in Colombo disappear in white vans, does not justify it should happen in North and East.Our Modaya government is aligning with China, Russia and Libya where people do not have any freedom. Sinhalese who are living like frogs in a well, however still believe they have freedom in Sri Lanka. Sinhalese still do not comprehend that they created LTTE. If MR continues to be in power, sooner than later you will see uprising in North,South, East and west.

  51. ranjan toronto
    kashmir is a dead horse that is getting flogged by pakistan just to divert attention from its own problems.situation in kashmir is much more normal than even southern srilanka for your information.panchayath elections took place last week in which nearly 80% of the people voted and government of india is very much alive to the concerns of kashmiris and it is doing what ever it can do within the constitution of india unlike your sinhalese government.situation in srilanka is far worse than kashmir.young men threw stones and indian civil society was the first one to criticise indian government for killing people and indian newspapers and media was very vocal in its criticism unlike srilanka we dont have white vans lol. we have white vans which are used as ambulances in fact we have a pioneering scheme called 108 where any person can call that number in case of emergency and white van will come and take the person to nearest hospital unlike srilanka where white vans are used to transport critics to four floor building where they are tortured.instead of raising kashmir issue time and again to attack india ranjan better sinhalese should introspect prabakaran and tamil tigers were a phenomena since 1970s before that chelvanayagam was there did sinhalese come to any settlement of tamil issue answer is firm no you sinhalese created prabakaran and not we tamils did it.can any one forget massacre of welikada when jagan,kuttymani was tortured and killed.jagans eyes were gouged becoz he said in court previously that his eyes have to be transplanted so that even if he dies his eyes should see tamil eelam.such was the barbarity of sinhalese society no accountability,complete immunity,mobs ran amock,jaffna library was burnt by a federal minister this was the environment which produced prabakaran hence please dont criticise india on kashmir issue we never kill kashmiri leaders or rather government does not kill kashmiri leaders.

  52. TRN says:
    April 23, 2011 at 6:59 am
    manuri-toronto says:
    April 22, 2011 at 10:52 pm
    But what is so pathetic is that Sri Lankan Tamils in the North are starting their lives after so many years of darkness and the children are going back to schools which is the most important thing for me…I just dont know ppl who cry fowl in this world forums do anything constuctive to this cause.It is easy to disagree and misunderstand.
    ————————————-

    You are spot on girl. this is my worry too

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    My worry is why only Sinhalese worry about tamils worry and no Tamils worry about Sinhalese worry.
    Its a big worry for all to worry.

  53. Jagan:
    Kuttimani and Thangathurai who were professional smugglers. They too wanted EELAM. Kuttimani gang killed many Tamils and some policemen who investigated those cases. 1983 riots were done by UNP but the Tamils including Prabhakaran always had “love affairs” with the same UNP. Why?

    Kashmir is totally a different issue and dont break your head over Kashmir.

    When India tried to solve the Tamil Sinhala issue once and for all in 1987, LTTE criminals shamelessly joined UNP Sinhalese and destroyed it.

    LTTE is not an elected body but it was backed by the pro-Western elements to separate Sri lanka to provide American and British a permanant foot hold closer to the biggest land mass in the India ocean to terrorize India and other countries. Specially to control the “oil” supply to China. Americans created many terrorist gangs in the past in South America and caused millions deaths. Prabhakaran gang did the same. Did Prabhakaran published any political manifesto of any kind? Just LTTE cried EELAM. It is not a political issue or Tamil issue.

    Now Tamil and Sinhala are Official languages of Sri lanka. Better try to live with it. Power to Tamils means “DANGER” to the whole region.

  54. DBSJ/ Dear All;

    It seems somebody is using my name Yapa at April 23, 2011 at 2:28 pm.

    http://dbsjeyaraj.com/dbsj/archives/2101#comment-32942

    I have been writing in this blog under the name of yapa for several months, but many posters respond to me by the name of Yapa (Capital Y). You can see under the link “Neither Epigraphy nor Pali chronicles say Dutugemunu was a Sinhala”, I have participated in the discussion. In many other forums too I have been frequently using the same name for over one year.

    If somebody is writing under without knowing the above facts, I would like to use an alternative name to avoid the confusion.

    If above is not the case and somebody is trying get something out of my name, I think it indicates me I have done something remarkable that won some followers to to tow my line.

    In either case I would like to request the poster to find an alternative name.

    Thanks!

  55. Correction……..

    “If somebody is writing under without knowing the above facts, I would like to use an alternative name to avoid the confusion.”

    should be corrected as,

    If somebody is writing under Yapa without knowing the above facts, I would like to request him to use an alternative name to avoid the confusion.

    Thanks!

  56. Who leaked the UN report, I wonder?
    The copy of the UN report was given to the UN and Sri Lanka Government. If Sri Lanka Government leaked the UN report to Sri Lanka Media, could the Sri Lanka Government officials remove the worst atrocities from the text and whitewash the Sri Lanka Government … thus hoodwink the world wide community again?

  57. Patriotic Diplomat says:
    April 23, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    UN does not represent the true human beings in this world but majority of it consist of half cooked keyboard professionals whose only skill is “englsih lieracy” and ability to “looby and network”

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    OK now this is what the west call this ‘diplomacy’. We need to have skilled and knowledgable diplomats dealing with external affairs. Not political stooges.

    ==============================================

    Patriot Sri Lankans in all levels let us use all our skills to stand with the President Mahinda Rajapaksha at this moment to defeat the hooligans. Let’s push him on governance issues later….First save him and mother Lanka from the wolfs.

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    Now how can we defeat the UN hooligans? Is it by showing how strong the SL patriotic hooligans can protests on colombo’s streets on May 1st?

    Now this is the most foolish move ever. MR knows very well that the majority of the Sri Lankans are on his side he recently won a poll. Even his arch rivals JVP is with him on this issue.

    MR has to act wisely the main issue with the UN & the sest is the governance issues. He need to address them or at least take steps in changing his hadrcore policies on behalf of the future of this country.

    He should act wisely to bring long lasting peace to this nation. Not only protect his position.

    From what I read in Today’s sunday times the worst out come would be travel bans and freezing of assets of the accused. As SL has not signed the Rome statute that recognizes war crime tribunal the entire issue can not proceed towards a war crime inquiry.

    So u are the UN nation expert to know who will be affected most when freezing the assets… That ehy this hue & cry for unnecessary derailing of External affairs and putting this country in a soup at present.

    It is not a moment to be emotional but to act with wisdom fro greater good of common man , woman & child.

  58. Bundoora says:
    April 23, 2011 at 7:16 am
    I’m puzzled and amazed of this sudden turn of events taking place in SL ,
    can any one dismiss , this is not a another political gimmick to hood wink the masses for a very long time ,just to keep away away from the real burning issues like cost of living, recent price hikes gas, petrol, flour, bus fares etc .if one takes in to the considerations of so many distractions created by MR to dupe the gullible sri lankan earlier occasions i.e the war , IIFA, Hambanthota port saga , opening of power plants for public , world cup cricket etc..

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    Yes at least one sensible person understanding the ground reality. This is exactly a political gimmick in SL. However at present SL is in a diplomatic soup, drowning in it, because of not having a straight policy. Appointing political stooges to important positions. MR is hoodwinking the masses and having a party if he is patriotic he should act wisely and solve the messed up external affairs by his officials. Not organize street protests to boost his ego and popularity. There are many gullible fools in SL.

  59. Mr.M.Sivananthan

    Is power to Tamils danger than Power to Sinhalese since 1948?
    “…Instead, in pursuit of power and fundamentalist Buddhism, an oligarchy of Sinhalese political leaders and monks hi-jacked democracy. In response a brutal enemy was born the Tamil Tigers.The result, one of modern historys longest civil conflicts, spawned a host of horrific innovations suicide bombers, child soldiers, death squads, violent Buddhism, and murdered journalists…”

    http://www.rbooks.co.uk/product.aspx?id=1847921396

    Mr.Siva we have already done so much damage to the democracy,Human rights and international law.

    Architec riots, abused war principals,killed thousands,raped womens and totured innocents,abducted individual,detained youths for long without any proof of crime,
    threatened journalist…

    So, Do you think its fair we sinhalese only still incharge of Power? Isn’t it danger?njmq and refuse to devolve the power to democraticaly elected Tamils or their democratic right to decide their autonomy?

    Wait for judgement day Mr.

  60. I am an avid reader of your articles, but have never posted any comments earlier. Anyway, I take this oppotunity to thank you for your un-biased articles.

    I am a sinhalese and a strong supporter of Mr. Gatabhaya Rajapakse and our armed forces. However, as war ended and given the amount of carnage and pain suffered by both the communities, I expected a reconsilliation between communities and earlier differences to dissapear slowly but steadily, provided TNA shed their tiger hide & separatism, which until now never happened. But with present circumstances and cry for war-crime investigations to hang President Mahinda Rajapakse, I donot think that both our communities will ever have a permanent peace, let alone a settlement. How sad for Sri Lanka and for SRI LANKANS. My worst fear is possibility of another pogrom just like Black July in 83, which was concerted by UNP thugs in the name of patriotism by which normal peace loving sinhalese people were vilified as barbarians, but this time it could really be sinhalese against tamils.

  61. (DBSJ, I know you respect this chap so much, may be because of his father or may be because of his qualification but frankly he is a humbug, he has no qualities what so ever what his father had. I hope you will publish this without amending it.)

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    I am sorry but I have deleted your thinly veiled diatribe against the person concerned. Yes you are right I do admire and respect him. But I am disallowing your post because it is unnecessary and unacceptable here and not because of my personal feelings.I also know that most of your accusations are wrong

    If you do want to criticise and you think you have a valid case then please do so under your own name elsewhere

  62. Aiyo Jeyaraj, lot of excitement building up here about Ban Ki moon report and what will happen next.So tell will you Jeyaraj what will happen now aney?

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Aiyo Nelum, cant you be patient till next week aney? hoping to write on these matters Kella.

  63. Manju:

    I think you either did not understand or delibrately decided to igonre what I was trying to point out.

    jagan sriram:

    I am sorry, I don’t read your postings. Your writing style without sentence breaks and capital letters at proper places is very difficult to read. Unless you pay some considerations to the readers and decide to change your writing style to something more readable, I will not be reading your posts. Sorry.

  64. Capt. Chinthaka Karawita
    My worst fear is possibility of another pogrom just like Black July in 83, which was concerted by UNP thugs in the name of patriotism by which normal peace loving sinhalese people were vilified as barbarians, but this time it could really be sinhalese against tamils.
    ————

    Just because, there are war crime charges levelled against MR, the captain fears about yet another pogrom, by all Sinhalese (barbarians) against Tamils.

    If this is the ground reality in srilanka, there is little doubt that the war crimes are true and no need for UN panel to investigate and report.

  65. Cap. Karawita says
    ” My worst fear is possibility of another pogrom just like Black July in 83, which was concerted by UNP thugs in the name of patriotism by which normal peace loving sinhalese people were vilified as barbarians, but this time it could really be sinhalese against tamils”

    Tamils share your fear of the program you mentioned, but we have been seeing several programs like this for long time. Please let us know beside shut our mouth, close our eyes & ears, certainly we will make sure there will not be another VP who will help the non-peace loving people sinhalese to start a program against tamils. Wait a minute, there were program before 1983 .Now, I’m confused about programs.
    Let me think, I’m not a smart guy, but I have a suggestion, we will start a program to end this programs by all peace loving people. We will find the program to find the root cause of the programs. We will punish the people who did start these bad programs. Let the journalist to practice their program without fear of any other programs. Individuals & groups can have their own peaceful programs without fearing any other programs.
    PROGRAM TO ALL PROGRAMS!!!!!!

  66. Capt. Chinthaka Karawita says:
    April 24, 2011 at 6:47 am
    possibility of another pogrom just like Black July in 83, which was concerted by UNP thugs in the name of patriotism by which normal peace loving sinhalese people were vilified as barbarians, but this time it could really be sinhalese against tamils.

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    Dear Captain Kuruwita, This is exactly what the tamil separatist Daispora wants, Just once more… They could achieve their goal !1

    Please/// if u have sense tell your collegues not to become pawns but to act reponsibly .
    No tamil in SL will at present deviate from reconcilliation. But the TNA is a hopeless bunch of morons, that tamils had to vote for as there was no other choice.

    Because the reconcilliation was taking place slow but for real that the LTTe rump wanted to disturb this.
    Yes partly goventment to gets the blame for messing up the external affairs too.

    However the hysteria over this report is not called for. Leaders have wisdom will act with restraint in situations like this.

    It is said that Sl has not signed the war tribunal statute. So there can not be war crime charges in Hague. But the worst that can happen is travel restrictions & freezing of assests of the accused. So what is this hysteria, if we are clean let it go.

  67. Here is an excerpt from the Express buzz. Million dollar question is what is manmohan going to do

    a. talk to the western powers and tell them to drop it or delay it permanently(highly unlikely)

    b. do nothing and tell mahinda the world has got a bad image of him and his hardline policies and to moderate it a bit(very likely)

    c. Join the western cabal to maul mahinda(very unlikely unless idiots in the srilankan government irritate india some more)

    Here is the excerpt

    [CALLS MANMOHAN
    Top government sources confirmed that President Mahinda Rajapaksa had spoken on the phone to Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh about the report. Lakbimanews even said that Colombo sent a copy of the report to Singh for perusal and appropriate action. But, Singh gave Rajapaksa no assurances.
    INDIA PRIVY TO CONTENTS
    An official in the top echelons of the Lankan government told Express that India’s man in the United Nations, Hardeep Singh Puri, had met the panel before the latter finalised its report, suggesting that New Delhi had known the panelists’ mind and had a fair of idea of what their report might be like, but had done nothing to prevent it from taking the vituperative form it did]

  68. Here is another one of interest in the sunday times

    [Why didn’t Chinese envoy come?
    The Chinese Ambassador Yang Xiuping was a notable absentee when External Affairs Minister G.L. Peiris briefed heads of diplomatic missions in Colombo last Thursday regarding the Government’s stance on the report of the UN Panel.

    While a ministry official confirmed that an invitation was sent to the Chinese Ambassador and was followed up by a call to confirm it was received, the ambassador was not present at the meeting.

    The Sunday Times learns that the ministry is trying to find out why the ambassador of China, one of Sri Lanka’s strongest allies in its fight to ensure the UN report does not lead to any action against the country, was absent.]

    Has there been ‘kuchu kuchu’talk between india and china behind the scenes before the report was given to srilanka?As a result are they both having ‘kitchi kitchi’ feelings for each over srilanka, divvying it up,northeast for india southeast for china and the rest of course for the stubborn srilankans,because it is not a ‘terra nullius’island and have to put the rebellious rascals somewhere,where they can rule themselves.

  69. As the Tamil saying “arasan anru kolvan, theivam nindru kollum”… GOSL must answer for all the crimes they have committed. They had a lot of chance to show Tamils that they only wanted to get rid of LTTE not Tamils. Since end of war, GOSL showed that their intension also to silently get rid of Tamils… as there seems to be no firm commitment even after MR winning 2nd term… Well Ban-ki moon, India(congress & Raw ) and Tamil Nadu(e.g. Karunanithy) are all the same, they wanted to support GOLS when they were with them and wants to go against when not.. They are doing nothing to help Tamils just to teach a lesion to GOSL. Once GOSL show sign of weakness, UN will release a report praising how GOSL doing a great job on re-concilation process… These all are just bs by UN, to show Ban-ki moon and UN is clean. But it is hard for them unless they can silence their people such as Mr Weiss.  Nevertheless, as the saying .. “Theivam nindru kolum…”, we will wait and see how this UN thing folds and how Tamil Nadu election results come out, and also how TNA progress on their talk with GOSL on political solution.. They all interconnected.

  70. Sri Lankan foreign service is a place for giving happy living for some of the political appointees. Recently, there was some news appeared in the media about appointing the children of the SL diplomats to the diplomatic corps.

    Rajapaksas simply ignored the “foreign” involvement through LTTE or completely forgot the “foreign” interest over Sri Lanka. Robert Blake said to Congress that Sri Lanka is part of the American interest. That means USA will interfere in Sri Lankan affairs to bring Sri Lanka under their control! This is really biggest threat to a sovereign nation.

    Green Card crazy diplomats of Sri Lanka not much bother about this American threat to the so called “sovereignity” of a free nation.

    I hope Rajapaksas now realise the need of more DAYAN JAYATILAKES!

  71. M.Sivananthan
    Green Card crazy diplomats of Sri Lanka not much bother about this American threat to the so called “sovereignity” of a free nation

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    I believe Gota has given up his Greencard.

  72. “Yogesh Karayalar says:
    April 25, 2011 at 12:56 am
    “LTTE is no more. But Mahinda is more. Hence Mahinda and his cohorts are answerable.”

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    Mahinda is more than more

  73. TRN says:
    Please/// if u have sense tell your collegues not to become pawns but to act reponsibly .

    ——-
    The captain is afraid all sinhalese public will get involved in another pogrom..
    TRN asks Army men to act responsibly.

    No worries…. There is no Tamil rebels to retaliate ..

  74. Capt. Chinthaka Karawita says
    My worst fear is possibility of another pogrom just like Black July in 83, which was concerted by UNP thugs in the name of patriotism by which normal peace loving sinhalese people were vilified as barbarians, but this time it could really be sinhalese against tamils.
    ——–
    and what is your best fear? that this will happen on May day?

  75. The UN report states that “tens of thousands” civilians were killed. 40 000 deaths is unbelievable, it’s mind-boggling. If this report is accurate in terms of numbers, this is beyond just war crimes, this is genocide. If this report is true, forget reconciliation, we want justice. The government didn’t care enough to avoid 40 000 civilian deaths? There was never any chance for reconciliation. Tamils have been slaughtered like cattle. The LTTE not only failed to protect those civilians but used them as shields. The neo-LTTE activists and supporters should be eternally shunned by the Tamil community. The Sinhalese community needs to do some soul searching, they should be leading the calls for investigations. I just can’t believe the scale of this mass murder. Don’t these soldiers and politicians have any conscious?

  76. A statement from the UN report

    [The Secretary-General should conduct a comprehensive review of actions by the United Nations system during the war in Sri Lanka and the aftermath, regarding the implementation of its humanitarian and protection mandates,” it said.]

    If 30000-to 40000 civilians have been killed, then the UN and India jolly well knew that they were trapped ina small area with the LTTE and it only required the srilankann hierarchy to give the army the green light to shell them into oblivion.So the million dollar question is what did the UN and india do to prevent that happenning. Now UN prepares a report damning srilanka and india is quiet and not protecting srilanka, while at that time in 2009 they both supported srilanka while it was killing the civilians.Now by doing a u turn can they bring back all those lost souls.Are not the UN, india, china,russia and srilanka equally responsible for the 30000 to 40000 tamil civilian deaths.Is it only the perpetrator,or the people who blocked the organisations like UNHCR etc from preventing the civilian deaths also equally responsible for this fiasco.

    The correctthing would be for ban ki moon and manmohan singh to also resign thereby correctly accepting responsibility for the tamil civilian deaths. It is a joke for ban ki to make a u turn now to try to get another term.

    tamils should be not fools to fall for this stunts and should clamour for ban ki and manmohan to resign, instead of just going after only the rajapakshes.All three are equally responsible and tamils should divide their forces into three ,one to concentrate on banki/UN,another on manmohan/India and the third on the rajapakshes.

    Preventing those deaths was more important than all these reports etc that will only serve the purposes of cunning people for their own geopolitical interests. The stupid rajapakshes fell into the trap that they laid. The tamils should not also fall into the same trap and using this report get real justice for all those dead souls.

  77. Dear Anonymous,

    Whether one or tens of thousands is the same. loss of life is loss of life. The fact of the matter is that the International Community – specially the western countries are now reviewing the last six months and wish to completely – I mean completely forget that the LTTE has been brutally killing ‘tens and thousands’ of civilians in trains, trucks and buses, in kovils, mosques and churches, at all times of day and they include mothers babies ripped open with brains bashed out.

    Where were you when this happened? Where was the UN when this happened. How the Diaspora lovingly called the LTTE ‘boys’.

    Now that the country is experiencing unprecedented peace , for us living here the UN report is one sided and meant to get at the present Govt just like Afghanistan, Iraq and now Libya.

    What did you do when the Americans went into Iraq stating that there was weapons of mass destruction and killed Sadam Hussein?

    Dont you think that the UN should have another panel to investigate for duping the whole world by lying about Weapons of mass destruction to legally enter another country and destroy its social fabric? What about the ‘Tens of Thousands’ of Iraqii killed for a mistake?

    I think this report will only push many Sinhalese moderates into hardline thinking.

    As for me if I have to stand and protect this freedom I have got I will.

  78. Dear Capt Kuruwita,

    The Anger here is against the UN and the western countries. Certainly not against the tamil community.Both communities have lost much and are openly enjoying the peace we have now. Once again this subject is NOT talked openly with tamils. yes there is remorse about the deaths. But the whole of Sri Lanka knew that the LTTE was holding these civilians as hostage.

    This is the only case where the forces which saved the civilians are now being tried.

    Firstly it should be asked whether the Western powers had any controll over the LTTE asking them to surrender.

    As far as a progrom is concerned – NO !!
    Not on any ones mind.

    But protests against the UN definitely yes.

  79. @Ranjan, Toronto

    Every inch in Indian Kashmir, when you die after 50 or 60 years, will still be with India, however hard Pakistan or pseudo-intellects who quote the UN resolution try.

    But, the point w.r.t DBSJ’s article is that, GoSL has gone back on its promise to India about a political solution for Tamils. As noted in the Wikileaks cables ( http://www.thehindu.com/news/the-india-cables/article1571806.ece ), India badly wanted the 13th Amendment implemented in letter and spirit… but obviously, it now feels it has been taken for a ride.

  80. sjoseph says:
    April 25, 2011 at 5:07 am
    TRN says:
    Please/// if u have sense tell your collegues not to become pawns but to act reponsibly .

    ——-
    The captain is afraid all sinhalese public will get involved in another pogrom..
    TRN asks Army men to act responsibly.

    No worries…. There is no Tamil rebels to retaliate ..
    ___________________________________

    Programs are government sponsered not a spontaneous public response. Without militiary assistance/government sponsering no programs could be carried out in SL.

  81. So now Mr Moon says that he can not follow the recommendations of his own advisory panel as he does not have any authority to do so. If that is the case, why did he appoint a panel in the first place? To advice him on things to do that he knew that he had no authority to act on?

    What a joke!

  82. shankar says:
    April 25, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    The correctthing would be for ban ki moon and manmohan singh to also resign thereby correctly accepting responsibility for the tamil civilian deaths. It is a joke for ban ki to make a u turn now to try to get another term.

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    finally the truth is dawning through the clouds of uncertainity.

    Yes its all about the new term… he needs to please USA,UK & their cohorts. Also the Russia, China & India too wants BKM to continue another term. So they are all waiting tight lipped until the new UNSG is elected. Then we can see the reality.

    Our morons are getting hysteric for nothing. Anyway MR too had been given a new lease. all his local shit, of hambantota port & CoL and mishandling of external affairs can be swept under the carpet with mass patriotic hysteria.

    Long live the morons!!

  83. dilshanf says:
    April 25, 2011 at 9:56 pm
    Dear Capt Kuruwita,
    As far as a progrom is concerned – NO !!
    Not on any ones mind.

    But protests against the UN definitely yes.

    _——————————————–

    Dear DF,

    Now tell me how can u change the view of the UN by having street protests in SL?
    We have taken a stand on this report and the government had conveyed this to UNSG. Yes we need good diplomacy and wise leaders to handle a sensitive issues like UN. But street protests?

    The diplomacy during and after the war was very poor . We need to stand on better strategies and work harder.
    The BTF/GTF/TGTE are influencing the west. What had our diplomats done to counter them. Isn’t it simple to highlight their former links to the banned TErrorists organization?

    Our foriegn office is slumbering with political stooges at the helm. Why can’t we c the truth. I hope the ones in authority will c beyound the horizon.

  84. jc nars

    I have no doubt that Kashmir will be part of India in perpetuity. The point in this instance was that India has gone back on its promise to hold a plebiscite. A promise that India gave to the UN and to the International community 50 years ago. So Indians who ask lot of questions about GOSL promises should first look in the mirror.

    As far as GOSL promise to India on political settlement to the Tamils, no one has said that it is off the table. Yes, it is now 2 years since May 2009, but these things take time and they are still talking. GOSL knows pretty well that dragging its feet can get them only a small window of time and that it can not thumb its nose at the big brother India for long. So have patience for a bit and wait and see.

    For me, and I am sure for most of the IDPs, the priority at this point is to ensure that their lives are put back to as normal as humanly possible. It is demining, houses, jobs, schools, hospitals and infrastructure that is more important at this point and most people do agree that those are happening in the north and the east.

  85. The SL government set out the Western Educated Diplomatic group to correct their mistakes and these educated comes up with the most absurd statements to cover up and save the regimes misdeeds.

    Look at these headlines. Are these the guys who speak for SL government or what?

    `Colombo dismisses UN report as `biased, flawed`

    `UK, US behind UNSG`s War Crimes Report`

    `India playing double game: Sri Lanka`

    Come on, these petty antics might work for the locals but It will not work when dealing with the UN. Without mooning Mr. Moon please work with him and settle this matter amicably.

    The SL government first said they are not going to send and meet with the UN General Secretary in New York and they did and was exposed.

    It is always better for a country like Sri Lanka to come in to terms with the UN and not good for the ruling clan.

    SL government messed up with Indian relationship lately. They missed the boat now. Can they get back on track? Rajapakshe did the same mistake that JR did to India and we all know its consequences. Without India supporting, SL would go nowhere.

    Now the report is officially published and becomes a recognized public document, the pressure will be more on the member countries that have a seat on the Security Council than SL.

  86. The number ‘40,000’ appeared first in the LTTE propaganda websites. If the UN too believe the same, BKM is a fool.The panel members never visted Sri lanka but created a report. The report never mention the “sources”. So, garbage can be filled.

    Ranjan:
    Pakistan invaded and took part of Kashmir before India hold a plebiscite. So, that question cannot be raised.

    In Sri Lanka UNP Sinhalese and LTTE destroyed the 13th Amendment. Pro Western elements among Tamils and Sinhalese want the TAMIL problem must exist for ever.

  87. As a Sinhalese, Capt. Karawita is only talking about his side. As a captain in the SLA, he should definitely know the amount (tens of thousands) of innocent Tamil civilians who died during the final stage of the war, of course LTTE is also equally responsible. A section of the people in the country (Tamils) were very badly hurt and angry and are asking for justice. Two years have passed since the war ended and what did the Rajapakse government do to solve the issue? Absolutely NOTHING.

    Building bridges/culverts/railway lines and tarring the roads in North and East is not the resolution for the many decades old National Question, the problems that created the LTTE. The Rajapakse government appointed an experts panel and the APRC was headed by a cabinet minister. What happened to the recommendations of the committee? It went into the dust bin of history and the same thing will happen to the LLRC report. These reports and the talks with TNA are all done only to buy time and to hoodwink the International community that some kind of reconciliation process is going on in SL.

    Capt. Karawita is blaming the TNA but what is the Rajapakse government doing, whipping up Ultra-nationalism among the Sinhalese and creating more and more difference between the communities. Today all the Sinhalese Ultra-nationalists have become very active and they are the main advisers of the Rajapakse government, the so called patriots.

    What Capt. Karawita cannot understand is, the UN report is not against Sri Lanka and its people, it is only against those who committed war crimes which include the LTTE. The innocent Tamil people in Sri Lanka are not crying for war-crime investigations to hang President Mahinda Rajapakse, they are only asking to let them live peacefully in their traditional lands with respect for their language, religion and culture.

    Capt. Karawita is highly emotional when he says, he fears a possibility of another pogrom just like Black July in 83 and this time it could really be a Sinhalese against Tamils even though he does not realize that the Sinhalese people and the government have learnt a very bitter lesson from the last pogrom never to repeat again. Now, with the entire western world, UN and India thrusting pressure on Sri Lanka, a pogrom will only make the path clear for the West and India to get into Sri Lanka (invasion) without any obstruction.

    Capt. Karawita should know that, all the pogroms that happened in Sri Lanka from 1956 were Sinhalese against Tamils concerted by SLFP and UNP thugs in the name of patriotism with the full blessings of the governments. Capt. Karawita should learn to differentiate between peace loving Tamil/Sinhalese people and extremist Tamil/Sinhalese people who are only a very few but causing all the problems.

  88. It is highly unlikely that the Sri Lankan government is capable of comprehending that this Report is the greatest opportunity they have to mend fences with the west/US and turn thing around to the immense benefit of the nation and the Rajapaksa regime.

  89. Kumar says:
    April 26, 2011 at 1:56 am
    Building bridges/culverts/railway lines and tarring the roads in North and East is not the resolution for the many decades old National Question, the problems that created the LTTE.

    ____________________________________________________________
    Now don;t justify the creation of LTTE. they were primarily trained & promoted with Indian blessings to suite its interests. the gullible tamil nationalists sallowed the bite and yet to understand the reality.
    ==================================================================

    Building bridges/culverts/railway lines and tarring the roads in North and East is not the resolution

    _______________________________________________________

    So what do u want the famers & fishermen of the north to send their produce to India across palk strait?

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    Rajapakse government doing, whipping up Ultra-nationalism among the Sinhalese and creating more and more difference between the communities. Today all the Sinhalese Ultra-nationalists have become very active and they are the main advisers of the Rajapakse government, the so called patriots.
    ________________________________________________________________

    Now this is completely a baseless accustion which should amount to slander.

  90. dilshanf says: April 25, 2011 at 9:48 pm
    I think this report will only push many Sinhalese moderates into hardline thinking.

    _——————————————–

    good point, a lot of moderates are slowly coming to the realization that as long as the threat of foreign inteference and the racist hate of the diasspora remains the only solution to the long term threat against Sri-Lanka is to to ethnically integrate the North.
    When the ethnic make up of the North becomes similar to that of Colombo nobody in the north is going to be treated like so called “second hand citizens”…..a push by the moderates to ethnically integrate the North will cure the racists in the North as well the racists in the South.

  91. UNITED NATIONS, Apr 25, 2011 (IPS) – U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon admitted Monday he is not empowered to establish an international war crimes tribunal to probe the “serious violations” of international humanitarian and human rights law committed during the concluding stages of the decades-long conflict in Sri Lanka in May 2009.

    Ban has been advised this will require host country consent – in this case the consent of the Sri Lankan government – or a decision by member states through an appropriate intergovernmental forum such as the General Assembly, the Security Council or the Human Rights Council.

  92. UN Head should visit Srilanka and observe the the remarkable transformation of this land from a war ravaged economy to a bustling development phase with in a matter of 2 years is remarkable.

    Talking to average people as well as above average I could not detect any sign of resentment towards Rajapaksa.

    At the current rate, Srilnka will be a on par with the best SE countries in a short time.

    When that happens there won’t be room for communal politics.

    Commual politicians like the TNA knows that. The Diaspora who want nothing but revenge for the defeat of their 30 year effort know that. The Eelaam dreamers know that.And the bankrupt Opposition know that.

    Bun Ki Moon has become the mouth piece for the English speaking West with the hope that it will give him a second term.

    What UN must worry about are the the living who are still in a miserable situation as their environment, their lively hood and their shelters have been totally destroyed by the three decades of terrorism.

    What the LTTE did to their community over the last thirty years can only be fathomed by spending a few weeks travelling from South to North.

    What the North needs is rapid development. Food , Jobs and Proper shelter for the poor who were in the LTTE held areas from Omanthai to Muhamalai.

    War crime allegations and demands for investigations against the Govt may be a ” feel good” for the Diasporians and their Western backers.But these are not going to fill any tummies or provide any shelter.

    Infact these unnecessary interferences may harm the goodwill that people currently dispaly towards the Tamil community.

    Mr Bun Ki Moon may pander to the wishes of his masters in the West who are influenced by the Diaspora.

    But he should also think about the welfare of the 22 Million who are trying to put the past behind and build a new era for their children.

  93. He regrets the inflammatory tone of some of the recent public statements emanating from Sri Lanka,” the statement added.

    “The secretary-general sincerely hopes that this advisory report will make a contribution to full accountability and justice so that the Sri Lankan Government and people will be able to proceed towards national reconciliation and peace,” it added.

    ______________________________________

    So hysteric patriots… mind your language. BKM could be elected for the 2nd term. Do not lose your chances of aids pouring from UN to SL.

    I feel SL completely mis handled this issue with short sightedness. They were slumbering from the war fatigue I would guess?

  94. TRN says:
    April 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    ____________

    Programs are government sponsered not a spontaneous public response. Without militiary assistance/government sponsering no programs could be carried out in SL.

    —————

    If it is true, are the guilty in SL Government & Army punished?
    GOSL claims, July 83 pogrom is spontaneous public reaction and not sponsored by srilankan Govt/ Army.

  95. This report has been like a cluster bomb dropped into Temple Trees. Rajapakses are running helter skelter. GL Peiris is pissing in his pants. This is poetic justice by Mother Nature on a pathetic Mahinda Rajapakse – gate crashing Oxford Union; forcing his way in to the World Cup and twiddling his thumbs when he stooges are running amok in Colombo. What a farce this man has become. He should be taught a lesson that not only him but his entire brood will remember till they live on Mother Earth. Now he will have to swallow his “condom” logic and must be seeing condoms lined up to be force fed into him.

    I roundly blame Prabhakarn and his stooges all over the world. What did they do in their so called Tamil Eelam, over 30 years? Did they build a decent hospital for those people? Did he care for the cadre when educating his children in foreign countries? And I blame Rajapakse for pussy footing for two years when he could have governed judiciously and economically. Bloody frauds, they enjoy their luxuries at the expense of the blood shed and lives lost in battles by poor, marginalized and honest soldiers.

    He should have brought normalcy to Jaffna and let those people got on with their lives without keeping the noose called “the Army” around their necks. I have time and again asked soldiers at check points in Colombo what they were really doing looking at my ID and my face. They were always telling me that Tigers are still at Mutwal. Now those buggers must be thinking that they have been left to rot in the sun for Rajapakse’s to wine and dine in air conditioned rooms.

    I am a Sinhalese and a Buddhist but I am ashamed the way the man is governing that country. He should be shocked by Russia and China by not vetoing this report if it comes before the UNSC. Rajapakse brothers could be in Sri Lanka under emergency rule for the rest of their lives. That’s what they want and let them have it in abundance. Sri Lanka, a Land like No Other. I grieve for Mother Lanka and the majority of gullible people.

  96. Post war period, SL tamils were utterly disappointed and agitated over the silence maintained by IC and India. It was the best period for GOSL to turn their disppointment against others in favour of Srilanka and won over them by offering a political settlement.

    Now with UN panel report, GOSL has lost all the advantages they had during the past 2 years, post war period. In such case, even Tamils would have ignored the UN panel report, and moved forward.

    Still it is not too late for GOSL to find an amicable poltical settlement and come out victorious. For SL tamils too, it is the best time to find a solution with in the framework of srilanka.

  97. Dear TRN,

    Before the war ended most of us were taking things as they come. Reports from BBC, Aljazeera, Support from the west towards the LTTE. I have seen this war for the last 30 years. Todays BBC has interviews with Sambanthan and the BBC correspondent in Sri Lanka at the time the war ended and guess what – He too is tamil. Do you think the Sri Lankan Govt will trust these fellows now?

    I am enjoying peace now and I can see benefits for all our people.
    Diplomacy or not the public need to show that they appreciate the peace they have now.

    It is sad that the war ended the way it did. But for the last two years no one has died. Someone better calculate on the basis of LTTE bombings how many would have died by now if the war didnt end.

  98. DilshanF – small correction to your post (reply to TRN). Yes war ended, no bombs have exploded in Colombo or Sinhala majority areas. But abductions, killings, torture, intimidations still continue in NORTH & EAST.
    Yes, as a member of majority you are able to enjoy the freedom but as a minority member like me and many others do not feel the same way. People from North & East still live in fear, not allowed to exercise their freedom in any way. If a citizen from North & East critize the government, next day comes SL Military or White van.
    Mate, don’t try to make a quasi regime look good. You are trying to build up a country on injustices, please it’s time for you to change your mentality and fight for true democracy for asian pearl. LTTE is no more but abductions, killings, rapings still continue in North and East where SL military is heavily deployed……..does that tell you something mate?

  99. //Jayatilleka asked Arbour “Which part of “NO” do you not understand”?//
    This flamboyant style talks can serve a short term hype only. These kinds of statements put the foundation for the long term destruction. I think we see this as of now. The same kind of statements were made by the Tamil movements too in the 80s.

    DBSJ,

    I saw your name mentioned in a recent news item in Canada. I should say I am proud about you. Are you considering to write anything about the Canadian politics with respect to the Canadian Tamils? Please do so.

  100. Hello TRN

    I presume you have sisters brothers and perhaps children of school going age.
    Do they go to school watched by the army. Do they study in classes surrounded by army with gun pointing towards them?
    This is still what is happening in the NE.
    You are lucky mate

  101. dilshanf,

    Numbers are absolutely important for the purpose of evaluating the conduct the SL Armed Forces. War rarely ever ends with zero civilian casualties, there is a 99.9% chance that some civilians will perish. The number of innocent deaths is ultimately dependent on the conduct of the warring parties. Obviously the LTTE was using civilians as human shields with the assumption that the Armed Forces would scale down their use of heavy weaponry. The Armed Forces in turn chuckled at the LTTE’s stupidity and knowingly used weaponry that would cause massive civilian casualties. When casualties run into the tens of thousands for the mere last weeks of battle, it denotes a malicious intent to kill civilians or at the very least criminal negligence. You are deviating the issue, no one is defending the LTTE. They shamelessly used innocents as a shield and their attacks on Tamil and Sinhalese civilians can never be justified. You act like the Armed Forces cannot do wrong, just look at their track record. How can you state that international community has ignored the LTTE’s crimes? Aside from refraining from engaging in direct military activities against the LTTE, the stance of the Western nations was clear when the war was ongoing; the LTTE was universally a banned organization, their attacks on civilians were routinely condemned and highlighted by the western media. I highly doubt the Armed Forces weren’t provided some other covert support in the form of intelligence on the LTTE’s supply ships. I and most people condemned the LTTE’s attacks on civilians, but when the Armed Forces were killing Tamil civilians our moderate voices were drowned by people demanding justice through the LTTE, which in turn fed the cycle of violence. SL is experiencing false peace if 40 000 people were killed, because this number doesn’t reflect a policy of care for fellow citizens. You blame everything on the Diaspora, they have become scapegoats these days. Who do you think has a bigger influence the people on the ground or those thousands of miles away? The Diaspora have criminally financed the LTTE’s terrorist activities but your Armed Forces only served to give the LTTE political ammunition on the ground and abroad with their atrocities. The Americans were wrong to invade Iraq and that is the sentiment of most Americans after they realized that the whole war was baseless. Regardless the UN didn’t authorize the invasion it was a unilateral invasion, but how does two wrongs make a right? This 40 000 number shows war crimes and at the worst genocidal intentions. How will the truth push moderate Sinhalese into hardline position? The truth is that war crimes have been committed, 40 000 people are unaccounted for, where is the justice in such a peace? You will not stand to protect your freedom, you are protecting an increasingly autocratic state guilty of war crimes and your militarily cemented superior political position in regards to minorities.

  102. Anonymous says:
    April 25, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    The UN report states that “tens of thousands” civilians were killed. 40 000 deaths is unbelievable, it’s mind-boggling
    ============
    It is absolutely mind-boggling
    assuming all 40,000 detahs are civilians and Tamils
    40,000 is 0.2% of the Sri Lankan population of 20million
    40,000 is 2% of the Tamil Population in Sri Lanka (assuming 2million Tamil Population)
    40,000 is 13% of Vanni population (assuming 300,000 inhabitants)

    This is the worst war crime ever in the history of humanity.

  103. UNSG says he will on;ly investigate if the member states agree…
    …agree to what you may wonder?
    agree to give him a second term…
    …he will be over the moon

  104. dilshanf says:
    April 26, 2011 at 11:05 am
    Dear TRN,

    It is sad that the war ended the way it did. But for the last two years no one has died. Someone better calculate on the basis of LTTE bombings how many would have died by now if the war didnt end.

    ———-

    Your analogy is not right.
    If Tamils have got Eelam or self rule way back in 70s, there would not have any blood shed, no terrorism too.

  105. Unless there is a transparent international investigation followed by reconciliation & political solution with true a democratic principal, this will not going to go away. Now, it is a public & international record.
    It will fester for long time nationally & internationally. Because of war crime, MR regime will try hang on to the power by all means, even after his popularity wane. Sri Lanka has to go thru distraction & destruction years to come, from within majority community. Minorities will play dead, only because they are apathetic from previous experiences.
    Successive Srilankan Gov. were able win propaganda war only because LTTE, when LTTE gone, suddenly find themselves naked. MR regime took this to a new level. He was able divide Sinhalese, Tamils, JVP, UNP, international communities etc. When MR regime start to go down, it will go down like a dead meteorite. The signs can be seen even in this blog. First person to jump the ship will be GL Peiris.

  106. TRN says

    “I feel SL completely mis handled this issue with short sightedness. They were slumbering from the war fatigue I would guess?”

    I have a name for this “LTTE Syndrome”

  107. To implemement Tamil Language in official business, EELAM or Self-Rule is not necessary. We have enough legal mechanisms to do so. The Tamil politicians, who are normally driven by “outsiders”, want to ride on the backs of the Tamil people. To get the votes these Tamil politicians always use the communal card and hate against the Sinhalese but all the well-to-do Tamils want to live in Colombo or outside of Sri Lanka.

    Tamil politicians shamelessly paved the way to the Tamil criminals and smugglers to become TAMIL FIGHTERS. How can a well educated community become so shallow?

    BKM now admits he cannot do anything about war crimes against SL and our Tamil LTTE supporters have no other way to find dollars in Canada or anywhere. Now many well known Canadian Tigers issue public statements that they have no connection with LTTE.

    “puyalukkup pinne amaithi” = “CALM AFTER THE STORM” WILL PREVAIL!

  108. M.Sivananthan says:

    April 26, 2011 at 1:32 am

    The number ’40,000′ appeared first in the LTTE propaganda websites. If the UN too believe the same, BKM is a fool.The panel members never visted Sri lanka but created a report. The report never mention the “sources”. So, garbage can be filled.

    ————————————————————–

    You are the one who is talking garbage. Don’t sell your people for a fistfull of benefits.I believe you are a well known character who fell out with the jaffna caste based society and now living in the hill country.Correct me if i’am wrong.It is not difficult for the government to make people like you there propagandists as your sudden steady stream of comments clearly shows.

    How can you expect panel membrs to visit srilanka you moron,when they were ready to come and were stopped by the government.So you twist it around and say since they did not come to verify, the report is wrong.Don’t you think it can be also said that since they were not allowed to come the government had something to hide and therefore what the panel verified from other sources could be correct?Your answer to that question of mine will show your true mentlity.

    So according to you banki who was the foreign minister of south korea and now UN secretary general is a fool.You think south korea and UN are like our government appointing people to high positions as a former chief justice of ours said not having the brains or qualifications to be appointed as his peon.

    As for the report not mentioning the sources,again you pretend to be naive.You know very well what will happen to the sources if they are identified now.At the correct time if there is an international court proceedings they will be brought as witnesses with full protection.Now they have to continue to live their lives,or you want them to also join the ‘40000’ or better still join you and retract their statements for some benefits.

    You claim that the ‘40000’ came initially from LTTE propaganda websites.I beg to differ because i remember reading it first from a former UN worker called gordon Weiss who brought out this figure and was immediatly kicked out of the UN by nambiar,whose figure was 7000. Nambiar was asking the UN officials to play down the figures as it would affect the war against the LTTE, which his illustrious brother a former LT.GEN of the indian army was advising as a consultant to the government of srilanka for a fee. When indians and east asians get involved in human rights issues everything becomes a masala vadai and dog soup.

    Since gordon weiss was in the thick of things on the ground here during the last stages of the war,read the following article that reiterates his view of the carnage and civilian casualties.When you see those poor wretches in the picture have a thought for them when you are sipping a cup of tea and typing out your comments.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sinhala/news/story/2011/04/110424_gordon_un_casualties.shtml

  109. Well done UN.

    You sat around while it happened.

    Gave the RP regime ample time to cover up most of the crime scenes.

    Finally you send in a report that is a summary of what everybody knew all along!

    Now maybe us Tamils will get what we have been fighting for all along. “a pardon’ and an acknowledgment from the Singhalese admitting they have discriminated us and have done bad things to us…

    What are you smoking UN?

    Bun Ki Moon, just send us money. Thats all you can do now. Keep in mind you need to give Basil about 20 percent so we can ensure the arrival of funds…

  110. All those in this blog who are disputing the 40,000 figure why not support an international enquiry so that you have a chance to prove your figure of 7,000 or less? Why would you go so low and call eminent people a fool or slut just because you wish to hide the figures  nor want an enquiry?  

    For those saying this report is damaging  to reconciliation process,  what I would like to ask is the war was over  nearly 2 years ago  has the GOSL even started work on a political solution? The answer is NO,  then why give excuses.

    It is sickening to see the Sinhalese (some writing under  Tamil names) are hell bent on protecting a regime which has hoodwinked the whole world in regards to this war. At least I am happy most Tamils are not biased  like out brethren  who want Tigers also to stand trial as well.

  111. M.Sivananthan,

    You are a GOSL apologist. You are deviating from the issue, but who can blame you? It’s rather difficult to defend the murder of thousands of people.

    Tamils in Sri Lanka and around the world should not also forget to condemn the LTTE. The LTTE intended to sacrifice thousands of people under their custody and the Diaspora should end their blanket support for the organization. There are important lessons to be learned from the LTTE’s graceless downfall; pluralism is the way forward, fascism will destroy its practitioners.

    The LTTE has paid for its crimes with annihilation, but the Armed Forces are still touted as heroes. I have news for the ardent Sinhalese nationalists, your soldiers engaged in rape and murdered thousands of innocents and the whole world now knows this truth. The peace is built on lies, murder and intimidation.

  112. M.Sivanathan

    “CALM AFTER THE STORM” WILL PREVAIL!”

    Looks like another cyclone is coming in May, this time from C4 side. Brace for impact.

  113. Dear Anonymous,

    I agree with most of what you state. But I believe you are not living in Sri Lanka. Firstly your 40,000 is a figment of imagination. The first was 7,000 , then 10,000 , then 20,000 and Now 40,000.

    That standard rule is if you keep on stating untruth then everyone tends to believe it too.

    I am not defending a regime now or never.

    I have lived through 30 years of war to know what the innocent civilians went through perhaps in the last six months taken hostage by the LTTE.

    You need to substantiate your 40,000 number.

    If you reduce the 15,000 LTTE cardres from that then would you ask for justice only for 25,000?

    This is not a numbers game one or 40,000 its the same.

    The war has ended we do not want postmortems if you want do it for the last 30 years and then submit a report. Taking the last siz months and making a report does not seem right.

    I agree two wrongs dont make a right – only get that facts right.

  114. Publication of and consequential effects that follow the UN report is a direct result of GoSL’s inaction re finding a political solution. Restoration of trust of Tamils on the Govt is necessary to have meaningful reconciliation. I have not seen this happening as Govt does not want to walk the talk; instead it is doing things that could be done after 10 years. The understanding and trust of Tamils living in SL can only be fostered by making genuine attempts to solve the issue by now which led to this calamity. Dealing with reconstruction, reconciliation, rehabilitation are well and good, yes it happens faster than some one predicted- full credit for Govt, but what one wonders is why these all together with effort to find a political solution could not be done concurrently. This is what IC is on about- it doesn’t require demining. Govt must have its own solution for this problem in its pocket when it honeymooned with LTTE in Oslo and elsewhere and where did it misplace now. Does it say solution is different without LTTE? No LTTE -is it an opportunity to get on with the solution it has had to implement. What is the reluctance now? Winning the peace is more difficult than winning the war- it requires more than what is required for winning a war. Although I thought this Govt and its leadership is different, comes to find the solution it mirrors the ones in the past. Hope I will be proven wrong. If the alleged 40, 000 figure is proven credible, this Govt has to be more responsible than ones in the past to sort this issue once and for all.

  115. dilshanf,

    I’m not saying the facts are 100% right, but when the UN states tens of thousands in its report such a number earns credibility. In principle loss of life is loss of life but numbers do make a difference. 40 000 deaths shows a policy of either criminal negligence or deliberate attempts to kill civilians. You and all other Sri Lankans have an obligation to call for an investigation into accusations of mass murder of your fellow citizens.

  116. Now some of the paper tigers bark at me. I still wonder why these Tamils of Jaffna specially, wanted EELAM and ran away from Jaffna before other Tamils! They now live in comfort and bark at government of Sri Lanka and not at the LTTE which killed more Tamils than any others.

    Gorden Weiss proved himself a liar. I still trust NAMBIAR and the Government Agent of Mullaitheevu.

    LTTE and Some Catholic priests chased and herded Tamil people far away from Kilinochchi to be used as human shileds. No Tamils open their mouth against the LTTE criminals and never asked LTTE to let the people go free. These diaspora Tamils have no connection with the people with Vanni and expected more people to be killed to expand their “collection” buisiness.

    40,000 is a good number. So far LTTE goons never tell how many LTTE goons were killed. Now they add up those criminals as ‘Civilians”.

    More than 9000 LTTE members surrendered to the army. How? No LTTE ate cyanide. Many LTTE goons and their families tried to escape with millions which was looted from the Tamils of Vanni. Even the LTTE leadership tried to surrender. If Gorden Weiss or Moon cannot tell the casuality figures of LTTE, their cry of 40,000 is a false figure!

    In the 30 years of LTTE thuggery more than 40,000 Tamils were killed by LTTE. Further I dont need to defent the GOSL but I appreciate the decision of India and Sri lanka to demolish the worst terrorist outfit.

    Further I was born and bred in Vanni and I know well how the LTTE criminals killed, kidnapped and robbed the Tamils of Vanni!

  117. The Rajapakse dynasty is now accused by an International organisation of war crime.
    With lot of internastional publicity.
    what ever the argument for and against this stain will live with them for ever.
    They have blodd in their hands.
    The Rajapakse name is tarnished.
    Never happened to a Sri Lnakan head of state before
    But they will not care a hoot.

  118. is there a single leader in Sri Lanka who can arise out of the phoneix to unite and lead this beautiful country
    or is it too late…

  119. Dear Anonymous,

    Mass murder is only in the eyes of some. Sri Lanka was the only country which continued to send food into the Vanni into an area controlled and run as a defacto state by the LTTE.
    The duplicity of the West and the some media is pretty much evident. Non of the atrocities carried out by the LTTE during its long war has been reported. For example a busload of civilians were bombed, there was a horrifying picture of a father running with a dead child in his arms. While these are pushed under the carpet the west only portrays the deaths caused by the SLA.

    If the western govt and media was just in reporting this war to the world then we would all be convinced on the facts put forward by the LTTE. Even the channel 4 tape seems suspect. what language are the soldiers talking in? I an in srilanka we never have any language like that? nobody speaks like that? How come the nobody is screaming in tamil? not even in the background? Who are the victims? Could they be the policemen captured by the LTTE when they took surrendered in batticaloa?

    By the way why dont the UN set up a panel to investigate the 3000 policemen who surrendered without arms? How did the facts of that disappear.

    I dont know how this will end but I can sure tell you that all have been galvanised into one body against the UN report here n Sri Lanka. And thats not in a political sense.

  120. Dear Anonymous,

    I forgot to tell you that this is NOT a UN report. it carries no weight it is a advise given to Sec gen.It cannot be put forward to the UN or to any UN body as it was not sanctioned by the UN.

  121. Dear All,

    The issue at hand with most Sri Lankan living in Sri Lanka is that IF the UN panel named all who lent a hand to murder of the innocence in this island no one would have objected.
    lets start from Indira Gandhi, RAW, TULF, Govt of UK, USA, Australia, specially Norway and Denmark, Canada, NGO such as Redd Barna, OXFAM, Media organisations such as BBC, Channel 4, AL Jazeera wolves in sheeps clothing such as Eric Solheim, president Premadasa, JR, Chandrika, Prabhakaran, Karuna and All tamil Diaspora WHO CONTRIBUTED TO GUNS BOMBS AND ALL BANKS WHO LEGITIMATELY TRANSFERRED THESE MONEYS!!!!!!.

    I would urge all bloggers here to add to my list and publish names so that ALL culprits are named and not those in the last six months.

    As I have said before I have seen blood here in Sri Lanka for 30 years and not just six months.

  122. Now the UN Chief Ban Ki Moon says that he would initiate an investigation only with GOSL’s consent. That is equivalent to asking Prabakaran whether he wants to be arrested for war crimes if he is still alive. As I wrote before, it is much ado about nothing.The whole thing is a sham and only has journalistic mileage.The GOSL knows that they could walk scot-free with any crime. Ban Ki Moon is in bed with MR from the outset.

  123. DishanF wrote:
    The issue at hand with most Sri Lankan living in Sri Lanka is that IF the UN panel named all who lent a hand to murder of the innocence in this island no one would have objected.

    Don’t be dumb.The Sinhalese government is the primary cause of all murders and mayhem over the past decades. You are naming everyone except successive Sinhalese Governments who cheated Tamils who repeatedly came to the table to negotiate by non-violent, peaceful methods. Our government has been and still is in the driver’s seat and could resolve the issues with moderate peace loving Tamils. Instead your government waited for it to fester until a thug called Prabakaran originated, who would never accept moderation.When you have a disease, you treat the cause of the disease and not the symptomatology.The ones you have named are resultant adverse effects of disharmony . The current government again is waiting in limbo, hoping the cause of enmity between Sinhalese and Tamils will disappear out of thin air to stay in power.

  124. shankar says:
    April 26, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    You claim that the ’40000′ came initially from LTTE propaganda websites.I beg to differ because i remember reading it first from a former UN worker called gordon Weiss who brought out this figure and was immediatly kicked out of the UN by nambiar.

    Since gordon weiss was in the thick of things on the ground here during the last stages of the war,read the following article that reiterates his view of the carnage and civilian casualties.

    __________________________________________________________________

    Some querries about your claim.
    I did some reading and found out that NGO’s were sent out of the war zone in september 2008. Grodon Weiss was deported probably, just before that or after that… (this could be verified if we search atchives).
    I am very sure he was not present in SL at the last phase of the war. So how could he accurately make an estimation?

    UN officially disclaimed any statements made by Gordon Weiss as official UN statements but as his personal opinion. Even recently (Think yesterday) they have issued an official disclaimer of Gorden Weiss’s claims as his personal not UN official statements.

    I would say Gorden WEiss was deported very abruptly and no diplomacy was entertained at that hour by our defence authorities in charge. I’m sure he was humiliated and harboured hard feelings agianst Sri Lankan authorities.

    In the same manner UK foriegn secetery was treated in a very un-diplomatic manner when he visited SL during the last months leading to May 2009. He even have to go to down south to meet the president, when president was in his holiday home.
    You should know better how the whites will react when they are insulted. slowly but surely they will take revenge.

    At this point we have to choices: Revenge or Reconsilliation. Both can not take place at once.

  125. The president and other members of government says that they have not killed even a single tamil civilian during war and same time saying they will not allow their heroes to be punnished. If they have not commited any crime why should they fear about an inquiry.Do they think that independant inquiry will pnnish there innocent heroes like what they are doing as punishi8ng innocent civilians…..

  126. Does this report helpful to anyone as far as i concern all it has stir the problems more.look what TNA done they couldnt even silent for a while.dont blame the MR he have done what it has to be.before all started he said stop the “kappam” throgh A9 have they ltte listened no he dont have a choice sadly people died this out fit has to be finished off other wise we Tamils has to slaughterd by this goons.

  127. dilshanf says:
    April 27, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Dear Dilshan,
    for the past 30yrs deaths from the war was < 10,000/year. therefore it was called a civil war. however when the deaths are more than 10,000 /yr then they define it differently. i am not exactly sure. I read this some times back in wikepedia about world wars. Few months ago SL was not listed in this.

    So only in the last phase of the war they could accuse SL for war crimes /genocide or what ever they call it. There is an international law which I am unable to outline here in detail, it will take time to search the relevant sites.Please search if u are interested.
    The UN officials and the western diplomats & LTTE rump in the west knows this.

    Yes it is ironic that there were so many violations against humanity in SL but they are pissed off about the last phase and the surrender issue.

    The slow process of political solution can not be blamed only on the government but also the TNA's immaturity political naivity & wrong moves too contributed. As a positive out come from this hysteria if both sides become serious and do some serious talking and shed some hard core stands would be appreciated.

  128. sjoseph says:
    April 26, 2011 at 7:38 am
    TRN says:
    April 25, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    ____________

    Programs are government sponsered not a spontaneous public response. Without militiary assistance/government sponsering no programs could be carried out in SL.

    —————

    If it is true, are the guilty in SL Government & Army punished?

    GOSL claims, July 83 pogrom is spontaneous public reaction and not sponsored by srilankan Govt/ Army.
    _______________________________________________________

    1. No not to my knowledge. So do u want me to point fingers at India and its progroms, especially the recent oe in orrissa against christians?

    2. So here u believe the government of SL as it suits ur assumptions but when it is not u reject them.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    sjoseph says:
    April 26, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    dilshanf says:
    April 26, 2011 at 11:05 am
    Dear TRN,

    It is sad that the war ended the way it did. But for the last two years no one has died. Someone better calculate on the basis of LTTE bombings how many would have died by now if the war didnt end.

    ———-

    Your analogy is not right.
    If Tamils have got Eelam or self rule way back in 70s, there would not have any blood shed, no terrorism too.

    ________________________________________

    Your slip is showing S. joseph ! so this is what u been dreaming for The Eelam . That’s shows why you post bias comments towards sinhalese & Gosl

  129. LTTE would never have won Tamil rights. Only benefit it did to them was by creating and effectively communicating the 1983 riots and got large number of Tamils to the western countries. They did it to create the Diaspora copying from the book on creation of Israel. This may have given better standard of living to the migrants but been away from friends, family, and surroundings they grew up with; I do not know whether it is worth. Probably the 2nd and subsequent generations of the migrants will realize the benefits.

    If LTTE cared about Tamils the best chance they had was the federal solution offered under CFA. Ealam Tamils and LTTE were against that for separate reasons. Prabakaran was only a terrorist but not a statesman. Federal solution in the glare of the entire international community would have made another attempt of carving the ealam difficult.

    The parading, bribing and blackmailing Diaspora induced push for a ceasefire in 2009 expedited the conclusion for obvious reasons. If not for this expediting the number of casualties could have been minimized. LTTE that was bragging of teaching a lesson to SLDF not only had to use the civilians for their survival and to buy time, but also had to shoot the innocents when they attempted to leave.

    The Banki Moon saga is yet another attempt to stall reconciliation between the Tamils remaining in Sri Lanka and the Sinhalese by the same Diaspora. They do not care of welfare of the Tamils here. If they do one family in Canada or elsewhere can build one good home to one poor family in NE and sponsor the education of one person. This or use the money that is now saved (by not having to contribute to LTTE) to fund the TGTE and other separatist elements to make trouble for Sri Lankans of all communities.

    If the Diaspora is really keen for the betterment of the Tamils and their rights they should have been pursuing for Equal Rights legislation that would have erased the discriminations (political, race, religion, caste etc). This kind of fight will naturally supported by the discriminated of all races. Otherwise there could be two possible outcomes. First and most likely is the ealam will never be achieved and the work of the separatists will endanger everyone in SL. The second possibility is ealam will be achieved but it will be ruled by the likes of DMK and Kanimozi and the elite will exploit the masses and poor. (I.e. 2G Scam).

    The Diaspora has to decide that they want to be selfish and continuing or aiming something that can be achieved such as Equal Opportunity legislation.

  130. TRN says:
    At this point we have to choices: Revenge or Reconsilliation. Both can not take place at once.

    ——
    Do you mean if there is revenge then no there would be no reconciliation..

    Revenge on LTTE is sucessfully carried out by SL Army in 2009 May. It is clear now, why there is no reconcilition after revenge.

  131. M.Sivananthan says:

    April 27, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Now some of the paper tigers bark at me. I still wonder why these Tamils of Jaffna specially, wanted EELAM and ran away from Jaffna before other Tamils! They now live in comfort
    ___________________________________________________

    If any tamils don’t agree with your views they become tigers. As for the tigers any person who did not agree with their views is labelled a traitor. Now we can see how immature our community is and before having grandiose visions of eelam and all we should have had a good hard look in the mirror and try to get rid of our glaring faults such as now yours of labelling people unnecessarily.

    You have not corrected my assertion that you ran away from the north after at one time being embroiled in eelam politics and now are comfortably ensconsed with the tamils living in the upcountry. I know you state that you were born and bred in the vanni,but your current status is what i asked about.

    Furthermore did you not contest in 1965 the chavakacheri electorate and lost to V.N. navaratnam.then you must be pretty old.

    As for what you say about the LTTE,i agree with you.That is why they faced the wrath of god.In my opnion the world should not waste time with these war crimes inquiries on the treatment of surrendered LTTE leaders.They were a bunch of arseholes and what the srilankan government decides about how they should have been treated should be for them to decide.If gota gave the order to shoot them,gota has the right to do so,and i’am sure his conscience is clear.The sinhalese have suffered a lot due to them and for them to think they will get a red carpet welcome when they come with their hands up in the air is ludicrous,but what happenned to innocent civilians should be looked at,especially whether their deaths and injuries were preventable. Otherwise the world will face the same thing maybe next time with the karen people in burma or someplace else.There should be some proper international processes put in place where people who are getting about with their day to day living are left in peace while fighting is going on.We can’t stop the fighting because there will be always be idiots who want to fight,but peace loving people should be safeguarded while these destructive elements destroy each other.That is the only way the world will become a better place one day.

  132. Bundoora,

    Check the statistics against, boat people already in camps, in transit in India and already in Western countries.

    A missing tamil person doesnt meen murdered.

    We have seen many a missing person from the north apear after heavy propoganda is done on the tamilnet to prove that either the white van or SLA has taken them. If you are not in Sri Lanka all japanense reconditioned vans come in white.

  133. Dilshanf

    I did not say they were taken from a white van , or murdered , if you watch the clip you can see for yourself , it was a government authorized piece of paper ( in fact it was Imelda sukumar , she still holds the position , if I’m not mistaken ). During and after the , it was not an easy task for any body to leave the conflict area , say 10,000 people managed to smuggled through in varies ways , but still a hell of lot people missing in the equation is not it ? by the way Dilshan I’m not a Tamil person or tiger sympathizer , I’m a Sinhalese Buddhist.

  134. Dear Bundoora,

    I have absoloutely no racial line in my thinking or comments here. I have seen ordinary tamil friends of mine living in a war like country in Sri Lanka. Now its no more. I see ordinary tamil people walking dogs at independence square. These people are living a better life without Prabhakaran.
    there was a cost to end the war. in human lives as well. You and I are able to count the bodies to 40,000. I saw how the media played from 7000 – 40,000 within a few weeks. If its possible to bomb 20000 people in one week let me know. Figures are exaggerated. However to me whether one or 40,000 remains the same. whether its one sinhalese, one tamil or one muslim its the same. You cannot justify and say murdering 3000 unarmed policemen is not a war crime and say the surrendered LTTE not being found now is a war crime. You cannot say that bombing a hospital is a war crime and bombing a bus is not. You cannot say that killing nadesan who came with a white flag is a war crime and that murdering sleeping civilians in their beds is not.

    This is where this report is wrong.

    If the UN wants a report it should be a report on the entire conflict history.

    I can tell you that a whole lot of ordinary people are not pleased with this reprt that even calls the LTTE the most disciplined terrorist organisation.

  135. TRN says:

    April 28, 2011 at 2:25 am

    I did some reading and found out that NGO’s were sent out of the war zone in september 2008. Grodon Weiss was deported probably, just before that or after that
    At this point we have to choices: Revenge or Reconsilliation. Both can not take place at once.
    ______________________________________________

  136. TRN says:

    April 28, 2011 at 2:25 am

    I did some reading and found out that NGO’s were sent out of the war zone in september 2008. Grodon Weiss was deported probably, just before that or after that
    At this point we have to choices: Revenge or Reconsilliation. Both can not take place at once.
    ______________________________________________

    Gordon Weiss left just after the war ended,because his work visa had expired.He was so disgusted with the UN that he resigned after making the statement that upto 40000 may have been killed. When he was in srilanka he was the official UN spokesperson, so the UN cannot say it is his personal opnion and not theirs.they should have immediatly conducted an official inquiry into how two employees of theirs are such as nambiar and weiss are having such widely different figures. ban ki did not do that and airily waved it away. What can you exppect with koreans and indians in charge of human rights in the world.As i mentioned before it will become a masala thosai and dog soup combined.

    I agree with you that revenge and reconciliation are very difficult to bring together,but i think in this case it is more complex and cannot be simplified like that.The first question to ask really is who is taking revenge against whom.the UN is an international body comprising of all the nations of the world.If the UN takes any action against the rajapakshes then the rest of the world has affirmed that action.So this is something between the rajapakshes and the rest of the world and cannot be simplified as tamils taking revenge on sinhalese.Even where the rajapakshes are concerned there are many sinhalese who would rejoice at their discomfiture.So it is more complex than a simple revenge and reconciliation dilemma.

    As i mentioned earlier the best course is a middle path of a truth and reconciliation commision with no punishment,but srilankans are very stubborn people and will enjoy scratching around with this merrygoround for ages without moving on.So iam wasting my time advising.

  137. One needs to be a brave heart or heartless to go through the UN report in full.

    What LTTE did was unpardonable but what the SLG did was simply non thinkable. There seems to have been a deliberate strategy to kill as many Tamils as they could citing the war like situation.

    Bravo Sinhalese. Now we know where we Tamils stand with you. I don’t think reconciliation is in the agenda of the SLG or the Sinhalese.

    Whatever action the govt had done has only justified the actions of VP.

    There should be accountability for this otherwise no reconciliation is possible. Justice is the basis for reconciliation.

  138. Shankar:
    Thanks for the response. Further I am not the person you assume. In 1965, I was only 14 years old and studying at Vavuniya Tamil Maha Vidyalayam.

  139. Mahesh says:
    “There should be accountability for this otherwise no reconciliation is possible. Justice is the basis for reconciliation”
    ———————————————————————————————–
    You say that there should be accountability or no reconciliation is possible. Apply that standard to your own country. Was there any accountability at all when Sikhs by the thousands was massacred by Hindu’s after Indira Gandhi’s assassination? Have the victims been compensated? So that means there should not be any reconciliation between Sikhs and Hindus?

    There were thousands of cases of murder, rape and pillage by the Indian forces when they were occupying Jaffna. So where is the call for justice for those victims?

  140. Dear TRN

    Who conducted the census in May 2009? UN?

    ——————————————————–

    It was SL government who gave the figure,  290,000  as  IDPs  in the camps

  141. Ranjan,Toronto

    First read the report to some extent and then comment. When the hospitals were asking for the medicines no anaesthetic was given but anti allergic drugs were given. Gen Jagath Suriya says that they could identify between the LTTE and the civilians using the UAV’s why then there was so much of civilian casualties.

    The report says that the people were wary of crossing over to the govt side because they feared that they could be tortured to death.

    When there was no LTTE firing from the vicinity of the UN what was the rationale for the firing in the direction of the UN.

    The UN itself says that they received hits from the govt side in many a places and there was no LTTE threat for them but they were made to vacate the places by the govt in its bid to do away with any witness.

    The govt intentionally played down the numbers of the civilians caught in the war zone and they supplied rations to that numbers making others die out of starvation.

    The UN report says that the govt could have used the satellite images to ascertain the number of civilian and sent the relief materials accordingly. Though the govt had those images they didn’t act upon it.

    When the doctors said that don’t have certain things and why the bombs are flying in their direction they were intimidated by the govt.

    As per the Geneva accord even the fallen soldier is to be treated with good medical care.

    Here on the basis of assumption that the hospitals are treating the LTTE fighters the govt attacked the hospitals.

    THIS IS INHUMAN AND BARBARIC.

    A no fire zone was declared, which encampassed the LTTE battery positions. What was the rationale in declaring a place as NFZ when the battle was raging there.

    It is only to make the appearance to the world of their good intentions while they could go on killing the civilians and put the blame on the LTTE.

    WHILE LTTE IS A TERRORIST THE SRI LANKAN GOVT IS A STATE TERRORIST.

  142. Dear Dilshan f

    1. I have absoloutely no racial line in my thinking or comments here. I have seen ordinary tamil friends of mine living in a war like country in Sri Lanka. Now its no more. I see ordinary tamil people walking dogs at independence square. These people are living a better life without Prabhakaran.
    there was a cost to end the war. in human lives as well. You and I are able to count the bodies to 40,000. I saw how the media played from 7000 – 40,000 within a few weeks. If its possible to bomb 20000 people in one week let me know. Figures are exaggerated. However to me whether one or 40,000 remains the same. whether its one sinhalese, one tamil or one muslim its the same. You cannot justify and say murdering 3000 unarmed policemen is not a war crime and say the surrendered LTTE not being found now is a war crime. You cannot say that bombing a hospital is a war crime and bombing a bus is not. You cannot say that killing nadesan who came with a white flag is a war crime and that murdering sleeping civilians in their beds is not.
    This is where this report is wrong.
    If the UN wants a report it should be a report on the entire conflict history.
    I can tell you that a whole lot of ordinary people are not pleased with this reprt that even calls the LTTE the most disciplined terrorist organisation

    First of all , do not even try to compare a terrorist organization and a government in the same yard stick , terrorists are terrorists , they do not care about the innocent lives, laws or any thing , in fact they just want maximum destruction , period !
    But what about the government, do not we have a greater responsibility and a higher moral ground, can we behave as a terrorist group?
    Talking about Ban’s report , I do not principally agree the modality of the report, and some of it’s contents , yes the time span could have been deeper than what it is , but whose fault is it ? if our government acted responsibly , all these could have negotiated , what did SLG do , rejected the whole thing out of hand and refused to recognize the panel , at the same time had behind door secret meetings , SLG say some thing to the general public and do exactly the opposite , these sort of double games is quite common in our domestic politicks , but will it work with international organizations like UN ?
    Dilshan I do not think UN can do any thing to SL , this report is for Ban’s consumption , if this report needs to go further it has to go to one of these committees and approval ( UNSC,UNHRC or UNGE ), most of the countries are guilty of their own crimes and have their hidden agendas , so it is very unlikely any of these committees will act against SL and pass the resolution,
    Oh almost forgot , you said lot of ordinary people are against the report , I bet they are , all most all these people never even saw the report , let alone reading it , that is why they go on signing the petition , blindly even before it was officially released and started burning the effigy of Ban , tell me Dilshan can we solve this problem like the way our government handles ( fast un to death, attacking UN office , mass rallies and forming a new UN, this one is hilarious, is not it ? )

  143. If SLG wants to prove there was not a single civilian casualty ,dig up those mass graves in Mullivaikil for skeletons.

  144. M.Sivananthan

    Is it hard to belive SL Army kill 40,000 civilian? Then let UN to go in to Vanni and do the investigation with
    victim families.Wecan clearly find they are civilian or LTTE? Why SL gov blocking international investigation to find out the truth?

    As Srilankan citizen ,have you ever seen SL procecuted any of their goons for Murder,Abduction,Toture,Rape or any other inhuman violance ? I am not like you “Living in Gov controlled Vavuniya in 1965” but “Lived in heart of the Vanni in 1995 with ordinary people; I know more than you how SL army killed the innocent civilian in mass scale to win the war” Tell from your heart “Who killed the most number of Tamil Civilian and Sinhalese Civilian by the name of LTTE and JVP?” Isn’t it State Terrorism or ‘Humanitarian Operation’ with ‘Zero civilian casualitie’?

    Don’t blame all others oppose your view as ‘Paper Tigers’ and act yourself as ‘Internet Lion’.

  145. shankar says:
    April 29, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Gordon Weiss left just after the war ended,because his work visa had expired.
    ____________________________________

    U may be correct as I couldn’t find the exact day. I can vividly remember a news I watched of his departure from SL and his reaction at that time.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    ‘Justice is the basis for reconciliation’ is what the pro LTTE lobby’s slogan. However they are seeking revenge. This was the motto of LTTE too.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    As i mentioned earlier the best course is a middle path of a truth and reconciliation commision with no punishment,but srilankans are very stubborn people and will enjoy scratching around with this merrygoround for ages without moving on.So iam wasting my time advising.
    ____________________________________

    I agree with you on this.

  146. An Eelam citizen says:
    April 29, 2011 at 10:13 am
    This is matter of time

    An Eelam citizen
    ____________________________________

    may be its a matter of another 30 years or more !!

  147. daya says:
    April 30, 2011 at 1:20 am
    This whole thing started when NAvi Pillai “The Cow, jumped over the Moon”!

    ______________________________________

    You think she is having ideas of contesting for the next term of UNSG ?

  148. sjoseph says:

    My worry is why only Sinhalese worry about tamils worry and no Tamils worry about Sinhalese worry.
    Its a big worry for all to worry.
    My worry is tamils in the islands are educated in schools with twisted revised mahavamsa History to impose Slavism in their mind.
    AnEelam citizen

  149. dilshanf says:

    April 29, 2011 at 8:30 am

    If its possible to bomb 20000 people in one week let me know. Figures are exaggerated

    You cannot justify and say murdering 3000 unarmed policemen is not a war crime and say the surrendered LTTE not being found now is a war crime.
    —————————————————–

    Dilshan,first let me congratulate you on your appointment as captain.

    Next,you must understand that when 20000 are herded into a ‘safe zone’by the government that is about 1sq.km then you can easily kill them.

    As for your contention of killing surrendering policemen,that was a dastardly crime and i blame premedasa who asked them to surrender. I felt deeply for their families at that time,but i can remember it as 600 to 800 and not 3000 as you mention.Regardless of the amount it was a cowardly and brutal act but i believe the chappie who gave the order to execute them is now one of the governments favourite blue eyed boys and has been even made the SLFP vice president and minister to boot.One of my sinhalese friends was laughing saying while the war hero is languishing in jail,karuna is being treated like royalty.I suppose that is the novelty of srilanka,anything is possible and how i miss the place.

  150. dear ranjan,
    i dont care whether you like my writing style or you like what i write becoz every one has got the freedom to choose which is not there in your sinhala holy land.as far as you writing or your comments i have never been a great fan of yours.i have always liked hillarity of shankar i have had stomachaches after reading his comments though of late it is missing very sad shanky come on be more hillarious,when it comes to erudition i have always liked ilayan seran senguttavan whenever he comments i read it very dilligently.then we had stephen jones i dont know why he stopped commenting and liked mahesh becoz we were similar in thinking i guess he is lurking somewhere in my city.but ranjan i have noticed one thing in your comments initially you were quite rationale but over a period of time you became a suupporter of sinhalese and then now you have come of the age you are attacking india as if it was responsible for all the problems faced by your holy land.message is very i dont care if you dont read my comments i am neither gonna stop commenting nor i am going to bed without having my dinner bye ranjan dont read my comments.

  151. Dear Bundoora,

    Most citizens in this country wanted the war to end. They were sick and tired of the duplicity of the west. Even now there is a hostile government in exile formed in countries where Sri Lanka too has a consulate. I read somewhere that if you lie enough no of times the lies would then be construed as the truth. If a long drawn out war is summarized for its last six months then within enough time it would be the ‘Truth’ Diaspora would be jumping up and down stating that the Government of Sri Lanka killed 40,000 of its own people.

    The LTTE would be an organisation of the past and the Eelamists would rise their ugly heads again within the TNGE and say ‘ No we didnt kill anyone for 30 years… what nonsense, see the report its legitimate.. 40,0000 of our people were killed .. no’

    I can see where this is leading, I dont mind as long as its is the ‘whole’ story and not the last page.

  152. Dear Shankar,

    Thanks for the congratulations but sadly i am not Dilshan the Captain of the SL Cricket team. …. Hmm wish I was.

    ‘ Next,you must understand that when 20000 are herded into a ‘safe zone’by the government that is about 1sq.km then you can easily kill them.’

    Think you got this wrong. there was a safe zone declared. the people who were herded by the LTTE went there. The LTTE followed and set up Mortar and Artillary there. – so much for a disciplined terrorist organisation as depicted by the Darusman report –

    Does any Government give in to demands of Hijackers and Hostage takers?

    This is not cricket eh…?

    Why not try all those who attempted rescue of hostages which resulted in Hostages being killed.

  153. Modern Srilanka had faced LTTE terrorism, JVP terrorism & never ending mother of terrorism- state terrorism. ” Biggest controversy” is how many people died in the last phase of war. One side say 40,000, & the other claim only two people, they are VP & Pottu. With all the pride of literacy rate of “95%”, we have a serious problem with counting. Why not let some else do the counting for us. This may even put an end to all the terrorism, along with enlightenment of real literacy.

  154. Dilshan f
    I can see where this is leading, I dont mind as long as its is the ‘whole’ story and not the last page.

    Thank you Dilshan, this exactly we all want, real story to be told from all the way back. We got to find a good listener/writer/presenter. The last I heard, there are people willing to do the job.
    People just can’t wait to tell their stories, even the dead are ready. As you say we do not want all the lies to continue.

  155. Mahesh,

    Despite what the UN report says, it is GOSL that fed North and East during 30 years that LTTE was running amok there. It was GOSL that kept maintaining education system in Jaffna, paying the teachers and maintaining schools. It was the GOSL that created, fully funded and maintained a University for Tamils in Jaffna. Are there universities in India that is 100% Tamil? It is the government and not the LTTE that maintained the medical service, provided medicine, educated Tamil medical students. All this while the LTTE was collecting money by the bag loads to run their war machine.

    In my opinion, Moon or Sun or even Rama can investigate what happened in Sri Lanka and write reports and talk about holding people responsible. But that process has to be fair and impartial. If anyone is investigating Sri Lanka, the investigation has to start from the beginning. UN then needs to investigate also Indira Gandhi’s conduct, the involvement of RAW, the massive human rights violations of the Indian Army in Sri Lanka. If Sri Lankan forces are to be held accountable for the civilian deaths, how is it that no one talks about the conduct of the Indian army in Jaffna?

    You are calling the GOSL terrorist. To me they have done nothing that any other sovereign country would not do faced with the same situation of a bunch of murdering thugs trying to carve out a huge portion of the country. US lost 3000 people on 9/11 and what did they do? Completely destroyed two countries, one which had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. You calling GOSL terrorist is nothing but a pot calling the kettle black. What your government doing in Kashmir and Tribal lands is no different. Where is your moral outrage there?

  156. Dear Dilshan

    I wonder whether you have read my pervious post, (made a small mistake, I did not separate my response from yours, apologies)

    Dilshan most of the moderate people want to see SL as a one country , not divided. But a genuine political solution for the Tamil people’s aspirations and grievances is a must.
    Talking of West (EU,USA,CANADA, AUS ,NZ etc ), they may have their own agendas (who does not ) , did not they support us all the way i..e banned LTTE and its activities , did almost next to nothing to stop the war (apart from last minute fuzzy attempt by Milliband, kushnar and Hilary ) .west did support us combating terrorism , all they were asking was to minimize the civilian casualties , is it duplicity ? if you take the Libyan saga , west was so quick to respond for the Gadafi’s assault on pro democracy fighters , they got the NATO’s blessing so quickly and are in action even right now. I have no problem with it , but it is possible for some one to accuse west’s duplicity based on these facts , is not it ?
    Dilshan who gives us all important trade, best education & training opportunities, PR settlements, best medical treatment opportunities, holyday destinations and many more, is not that west? Can we get any of these from these so called friendly countries such as china, Russia, Iran, Libya or Myanmar? do you sincerely believe these Chinese and Russians are really fond of Sri Lankan people’s well being , they could not care less for their own citizens , would they be very concerned about our democratic rights, Chinese a& Russians are fishing in the trouble waters , Chinese wants control the world in near future , SL isstrategically located in Indian ocean , Chinese have upper hand in maritime in Indian ocean now, in return lending money on high commercial interest rates on Hambanthota port (it is a joke ) and other varies investment (shangari la )., on the other hand Rusia had an arms deal worth of US $ 300 mil in 2010.do not they have skeletons in the cupboard ( Chechnya , Tibet etc )

  157. Ranjan, Toronto

    You wanted an impartial inquiry. But you didn’t allow UN to come and investigate in your island.

    You want Sun. Moon or whoever to come and investigate from the starting that is may be 1983. Why not from 1948.

    You say you were feeding the Tamils in the North and the East. There are evidences that the ration was in short supply and also they were denied the basic facilities like electricity.

    The UN says that you could have used the satellite footages and the UAV images and targetted the LTTE positions effectively. But you used the pretext of the LTTE presence to kill all and sundry.

    Your intention to kill the Tamils in general was there.

    Before talking about Kashmir also note that there is the presence of the Press and UN there. We do not target the UN as you had done in Mullivaikkal.

    You deliberately kept the world that the people with the LTTE are few ten thousands only and you were sending rations to them only thereby starving the Tamils.

    You never sent the required medicines but sent some non essential ones there which reflects your intention to kill as many Tamils as possible.

    You intimidated the field doctors for saying some thing against the govt.

    IN ALL THE INTENTION TO KILL THE TAMILS ENMASSE WAS THERE.

  158. 1. Sri Lankan citizen says:
    April 30, 2011 at 7:03 am
    An Eelam citizen says:
    April 29, 2011 at 10:13 am
    This is matter of time
    An Eelam citizen
    ____________________________________
    may be its a matter of another 30 years or more !!
    ———————
    5000 years in mahavamsa calendar equals to 5 years in UN calendar.
    As UN clock is now on I wish to advice my fellow citizen to be cool for another 30 years of mahavamsa time.
    an Eelam Citizen

  159. Hi David,
    I was in a remote place where there was no internet, when you wrote this article. When I watched this news in ABC Australia, I thought about you. I think this “war crime”issue won’t go away until the GOSL investigate properly and satisfy the international community. It is not too late even now to do this.This is not the end but just the beginning. If President MR fails to do this, then the future of Sri Lanka is going to be difficult one. This UN/Western action against those committed for war crime( both the GOSL & LTTE) is going to be slow process. As we know what happened to Iraq, Sudan and what is happening in Libya. same think will happen to Iran and North Korea unless the western power collapse. I can’t see that is going to happen for next 25 years. It took long time for them to get rid of Saddam Hussein. In my view, if any Government act against the west, will face the music sooner or later. whether we like it or not, this is the reality.
    you can rule the country with Dictatorship, nationalistic and anti west policy for a while. But you will have to face the UN sanctions in so many ways and so many years until they catch the leader of the country.
    I agree with one of the comment made on this column that some of our Singhalese Friends are like ” frog in the Well”. not all of them.I feel sorry for them.They don’t know what they are talking about and obviously they don’t understand the international power politics.
    Some Jaffna Tamil people have superiority complex. They say ” Sinhala Modyas”. I hate people saying this. I have wonderful intelligent Singhala Friends.
    I supported the GOSL when they eradicate the LTTE. Lot of tamil Diasporas are not happy with me on this issue. but if any one made war crime against humanity during that time, it has to be investigated. it does not mean, the UN is going to trial President and His Brother in the International Tribunal.we have to be very diplomatic and open minded as well.

  160. KaripaddaMuripaan:
    Your name sounds something connected to Vanni but your writting is not. I hope you may be a tamed LTTE.

    How many parents so far admitted their children are LTTE or suicide bombers?

    Without knowing the number of deaths of the LTTE terrorists, this 40,000 is a farce. This 40,000 was uttered by Gordon Weiss and then he was kicked out by the same UN. But MOONIES took that 40,000 and crying.

    All these LTTE goons registered their names as civilians and got all the aid/money from the government. That is how Veluppillai came illegally and was receiving pension.

    What is the difference between LTTE and a Tamil civilian?

  161. Jagan,
    I did not say that you have no right to write in any style you want. I just said that I do not read your postings because they are difficult to read. That’s all. Nuff’ said.

  162. It is being reported in the media that one of Gadaffi’s son’s and his three grandchildren have been killed by a targeted bombing raid by NATO on the son’s house. Now I am not defending Gadaffi or his regime, but how is this planned action knowing that there were civilians and children there not a war crime?

    I don’t think Mr Moon will appoint an advisory panel on this one. Oh the hypocracy of the West.

  163. Dear Bundoora,

    The world is a strange place, the power centers keep on shifting. there was a time when west was important. Its not so now. Russia, India and China are the new powerhouses. Yes there was a time when vehicles, medicine and aircraft was made in the west. not so now. This is not something new. Power shifted from place to place in different time. Rome, Maya, London ect ect.You say China wants to rule the world. The question is not want but really when. Even now USD has become a dud currency. Even the chinese now quote in Euro.

    I agree with you 110% that most moderate people want a united country with a political solution for all people – I think you missed a point there. I dont there should be a political solution for the Tamils only. It should be a political solution for All of Lanka’s people. Where we go wrong is identifying a tamil problem and thinking its a tamil problem only.

    People are polarised because there are racial oriented political parties.

    If you are in the west you know that asking for ones ethnicity is not allowed in job applications. So why should it be when asking for votes.

    A political solution must end all this Muslim Congress, Tamil Congress and Heal Urumayas.

    Th people who have the most amount of skeletons are the west. Lets not forget agent orange being dropped on Vietnam, Lets not forget Iraq where was the weapons of mass destruction? What did Afghanistan had to do with Al Queda. the west just raped Iraq and Afhanistan. Now its Iran, Syria and Libya.

    The last meeting with the TNA and Govt was a disaster, Naturally the TNA showed its true colours when responding to the Darusman report.

    But really what is required is upliftment of the Nothern People both economically and emotionally.

  164. Dear All,

    Here is another bit of news from the tamilnet.
    ‘ Emerging evidence on Sri Lanka military targeting civilian leadership of Eezham Tamil development organizations at the end of Vanni war further reinforces the credible allegation that Sri Lanka’s war crimes and crimes against humanity had genocidal intentions. C. Sivalingam Suhunan, alias Thilak, the executive director of TECH (The Economic Consultancy House), the flagship development NGO of the de-facto state of Tamil Eelam and a registered NGO in Sri Lanka, was one of the victims, according to a Senior official of TECH, who has identified Thilak’s body in a recently leaked photograph taken by Sri Lankan soldiers. Mr. Suhunan had phoned his family last on 18 May, 2009 at 6:15 a.m. local time, informing that he was among a group of persons in civil clothes, going into Sri Lanka Army (SLA) controlled territory in Mullaiththeevu. ‘

    Now why would he say the he was going in ‘Civil Clothes’. what was his normal clothes – an LTTE uniform???. If you are surrendering you can be in ‘Any’ clothes. So who was he. Civilian or LTTE. You decide.

  165. Ranjan, Toronto

    The report of the Secretary-General’s Panel raises serious allegations not only against GOSL, but the report also accuses LTTE besides blaming the UN itself for failure to act to save civilian lives. It is also critical of the UNSC and recommends review of its earlier stance.

    Your comment seems to dismiss the report in toto. Which means you are rejecting the allegations made against LTTE along with those made against GOSL, UN and UNSC.

    Could you please categorically say that you are defending the LTTE and GOSL and say the allegations contained in the report against both the parties are unfair and partial! Or you may choose to call GOSL as innocent and LTTE as guilty or vice versa. In other words, you can accept parts of the report while rejecting the other parts. Or you can come up with a both guilty conclusion or none guilty pronouncement.

    Whatever you choose to do, could you please make your stand clear and unambiguous without beating around the bush?

  166. 3D:
    Who did get the copy of the report on behalf of the LTTE? Fr.Emmanuel or Adale Balasingam or Rudrakumaran or his break away group in Toronto headed by a notorious criminal Thiruchelvam?

    Moonies and LTTE goons know well, no LTTE criminals will be charged or punished but the Rajapakses there for a head hunting!

    As a Tamil from Vanni, I and my realtives, friends and others will fight to save the pride of Sri Lanka!

    I also request President Rajapakse to black list all the American diplomats who try to meet TNA or Catholic church in the North-East. American and Church based NGOs must be expelled right away!

  167. 3D,

    I know what both the LTTE and GOSL did and did not do. I don’t need a UN report to tell me what I already know. The report deals with mostly with alleged GOSL conduct with some sentences thrown in to acknowledge that LTTE was also around at the same time and the advisory panel claim “impartiality”.

    This report is just the West and INGOs getting back at GOSL and MR for going against their wishes. The West knows that these days their influence in the rest of the world is not strong. Not many countries take their moral posturing that seriously – especially after Iraq. So these days it is organizations like Human Rights Watch, ICG and a host of other similar organizations that does their dirty work. That is because most countries will not take kindly to the West telling them what to do.

    I will take the UN report and Moon’s advisory panel seriously only after I see Bush, Blair and Rumsfeld cited for human rights violations in a similar panel. Or when UN questions Obama on un-armed drone attacks in Afghanistan and Pakistan given that everyone knows that there are civilians killed when these happen. Or when the UN decides to investigate what happened in Chechnya. Or when they decides to send a team of investigators to Tibet.

    As I have said many times on this blog, this is not the time find fault and hold people accountable for how the war was conducted, but this is the time to make sure that north and the east is restored as much as possible and give the poor IDPs their dignity back and provide them with a stable life. I believe very strongly that is GOSL’s responsibility and I hope that they get on with that. However much I detest MR and his bunch, I also believe that he is the only political leader at this point that is capable of bringing some semblance of normalcy. If that has to be done at the cost of some democratic principles and rights, restrictions on peoples rights, so be it. Even Lord Buddha said that first feed the people before one starts preaching Dharma to them!

    Is that clear and unambiguous enough to you?

  168. M.Sivananthan says:
    May 1, 2011 at 5:26 am
    KaripaddaMuripaan:

    What is the difference between LTTE and a Tamil civilian?

    ———-

    LTTE are Tamil civilians who took arms and died.
    Tamil civilains are LTTE who die to take up arms.

  169. Dear Mahesh,

    You are making a serious allegation here.

    ‘ IN ALL THE INTENTION TO KILL THE TAMILS ENMASSE WAS THERE.’

    I think you got all your facts wrong here or just got carried away with your emotions.

  170. For all you UN lovers,

    News report on CNN and BBC says Gaddaffi’s son killed in drone attack.
    Lets Anallise this UN grants permission to protect civilians by using ‘any’ means.
    How does killing Gaddafi’s son protect civilians, How does killing innocent villages using drones prevent terrorist attack in the west.

    The problem is that a lot of you guys think that the UN is like a supreme court in your country. All lily white and virginal, will dispense justice with eyes bound.

    Do you think that Ban ki Moon will ever appoint a panel to advice whether killing Gaddafi’s son is a crime?

  171. dilshanf says:

    April 30, 2011 at 9:00 pm
    Why not try all those who attempted rescue of hostages which resulted in Hostages being killed.

  172. Glandiose!!

    u r in the manic phase of manic depressive psychosis. Not much hope of cure anyway.

  173. Dear Ranjan, Tronto,

    Every one knows the duplicity of the UN & the west. We are wasting our time try to point this out loud. What SL needs is to clean the foriegn service, give the best positions to the best carrier diplomats and change strategies from the local hooliganism to real international diplomacy.

    What does MR expect the SL patriots to have a human ring around him & his family when the Western bombers come to bomb the presidents’s house?

  174. dilshanf says:

    April 30, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Why not try all those who attempted rescue of hostages which resulted in Hostages being killed.
    ———————————

    The problem i have with this dilshan is we don’t know what really happenned. I blame the government for that because there was a complete news blackout.Let us just put a ball park figure of 40000 hostages and 2000-3000 LTTE.Now i must emphasise i don’t really know whether it was 40000, it just a ball park figure to explain this scenario. Again i blame the government for the news blackout during the war,resulting in the figures that are rejected by the government.They brought it upon themselves by their actions.

    Now let us assume in this situation the government is facing a dilemma.How to get at these 3000 LTTE without slaughtering the 40000 people whom you rightly classified as LTTE. I know that you and i will not give that order to slaughter the 40000 in order to kill 3000 LTTE,but what if mahinda had.Then he is definitely a war criminal.

    The LTTE were cornered. There was no way out for them.So there was no need to slaughter these civilians.It was only a matter of time before it ended in their capture or death.

    According to you if some gunmen took over the majestic city and took all the people there hostage and the army shelled the whole building to bits,then that is okay. 5 hostage takers die as well as 5000 innocent civilians.

    Why not try all the army fellows who shelled the majestic city building according to you?Of course you shoudn’t.You should ask The fellows who shelled the building why did you do it.If they say they were ordered to,then you ask them who gave you the orders.They might say it was LT.so and so. Then you ask the LT.so and so why did you give this order.He might say Major so and so ordered me to.Like that you trace it to the highest possible ranking people, even to civilians who supervise the army and then try them,not the rank and file who shelled the majestic city to rubble.That is what you mean by a accountability process.

  175. DBSJ,
    U R late again ! v r waiting 2 read … The comments are getting boring as many just sling mud at each other.

  176. dilshanf says:
    May 1, 2011 at 8:57 pm
    Dear Mahesh,

    You are making a serious allegation here.

    ‘ IN ALL THE INTENTION TO KILL THE TAMILS ENMASSE WAS THERE.’

    I think you got all your facts wrong here or just got carried away with your emotions.

    ————-
    Do you agree with the following:
    “IN ALL THE INTENTION TO KILL THE LTTE militants ENMASSE WAS THERE”
    Anyway both LTTE militants and Tamil civilians are human beings and born in Srilanka.

  177. Osama Bin laden killed: ( Good news, bad reaction)
    0531: Justin King in New York, US writes: “Good news, bad reaction. While I am very pleased to hear that Bin Laden is no longer living and I understand that many may feel that this symbolises a sort of closure to 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan, I can’t help but feel a little disgusted by the cheering mob jumping around outside the White House. As the world celebrates this occasion let’s not forget that even killing a killer is an ugly business and we could be recognising Bin Laden’s demise in a more dignified way.”


    SAME APPLIES TO LTTE MILITANTS TOO.

  178. Dear Sir, First read the UN report and then post here. I know you are good at heart, but You do not know any thing about the Tamils. You said that you gave some naan and prawn curry to the Tamils for their pongal. From that itself one could understand that you do not know anything about the Tamils.

    If I am carried away please point me with points and do not make sweeping allegations like this without any basis.

  179. sjoseph!
    Then what is the problem of killing LTTE which was a ruthless Tamil criminal gang?

    Hostage taking is not the case of LTTE. LTTE never hesitated to kill the fleeing civilians. In the last 30 years LTTE caused billions of damage to Tamils as well as to the State. Please submit your ideas to Ban Ki Moon!

  180. shankar says:
    May 1, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Well said Shankar! I hope your example makes more sense to those who can’t seem to understand the cries for justice. It makes me wonder if they really don’t understand or choosing not to. It’s crystal clear some here are not really interested in bringing justice to the victims (both sinhala & tamil). This report has put tamil people to walk on the sharp knife again. I think TNA is handling it very well, i really hope & wish TNA to continue the dialogue with GOVSL and bring an ever lasting solution for this ethnic problem. A solution that will make both Sinhala & tamil happy and live in peace.
    The panel report may have caused a rift and division on the blog but it definitely exposed many black sheeps here. I am taken back by some bloggers here whom I believed will assist the nation for a true reconciliation but rather spit out poison towards victims. Anyways, don’t be too happy that you have managed to deceive many but remember truth can’t be hidden for too long.
    I am sure DBSJ was prepared for rift and division but not sure about black sheeps (correct me if i am wrong). Anyways DBSJ, your silent makes many worry here. Please continue your work, reconciliation and solution is in the reach. Your work of building bridge is in near completion stage. Stay strong mate!!

  181. May seems to be the month for killing the worst terrorist leaders in world history.
    Congratulations to the US for ridding the Earth of a monster.
    The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist (OBL and Velu are only good to the world dead).

  182. M.Sivananthan says:
    May 2, 2011 at 2:02 am
    sjoseph!
    Then what is the problem of killing LTTE which was a ruthless Tamil criminal gang?

    ——

    No problems even if people like you ( assuming you are a Tamil civilian) too are killed by Sinhalese criminal gangs. Who cares !

  183. I saw USA ppl celebrating OBL’s death in the streets (may be to insult Muslims).

    And they R making “kiribath” (From the money taken forcefully from Muslims).

    Some says that OBL surrendered (With white flag) two days ago and brutally murdered by US forces.

    Some suggest that the wife & daughter of OBL was humiliated by US forces.

    Ban Ki Moon is going to appoint a advisory comity (Only for his personal reference) to investigate what has happened in the last few seconds of the raid by US forces.

  184. Obama has got Osama.
    Prabaharan just got a companion to spend time with in the special place in the Hell that is reserved for him.

  185. might be after the official puplication of UN report on possible war crime by GOSL and LTTE

  186. Dear All,

    Have a look at how jubilant Americans are about the killing of Obama, Isnt there some resemblance to when Praba was killed.

    yet Most media played it like as if the Singhalese were celebrating a victory against the tamil community.

    So are we interpreting this right?

    Where are the muslims out enforce lighting crackers and celebrating Oxama Bin Laden’s death.

    I am actually hoping thab Ban ki Moon will appoint a panel in due course to find the truth behind all the civilian deaths leading to Bin ladens death. I hope Hw would give the Darusman team another job – in another report, Guantanama bay, Drone killings in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    Yet again fate has been kind to Sri Lanka. Now lets see how the Darusman report unfolds in the UN.

    Let see if whats good for the Goose is good or even better for the Gander

  187. However Osama Bil Laden & Alkida is not humans but terrorists. As defined by USA president Barak Obama, Hillary Clinton & European leaders.

    Only in Sri lanka all are human no terrorists !!

  188. Why justice for only the last phase of the war where the LTTE leadership was crushed ?

    That’s what many like Dilshan F is questioning?

    Isn’t it duplicity ? When there were many innocent blood shed by LTTE and the SL military in the past.

    Only if they can prove the quoated figures they can call war crime charges to MR & the military heads. Not for justice but for revenge is the word!

    If there was good understanding we won’t be in a political soup today.
    The problem is not this blog but the country as a whole. The hardcore morones are on top again. All the bridges that were built are burned already. This is what the LTTE rump wanted. they have got it so be happy.
    TNA had blown it anyway.
    Y r u sarcastic about reconciliation & solution?

  189. shankar:

    The problem i have with this dilshan is we don’t know what really happenned. I blame the government for that because there was a complete news blackout.Let us just put a ball park figure of 40000 hostages and 2000-3000 LTTE.Now i must emphasise i don’t really know whether it was 40000, it just a ball park figure to explain this scenario. Again i blame the government for the news blackout during the war,resulting in the figures that are rejected by the government.They brought it upon themselves by their actions.

    ——————

    The problem with been honest about the real situation is 3rd parties will try to twist it in most diabolical ways. What better example do you want than this panel report itself?

    If we live in an honest world where people are just then Mahinda could have fought a war with all required transparency. Yet, we do not live in such a world. If 10 civilians get killed by a shell and it gets reported all around the world, what would be the reaction? Will the West judge the death of 10 civilians in the same way they judge deaths caused by their own actions in other places? In a world where there are enough fools, hypocrites and just plain vicious (as reflected in this blog itself), MR took the pragmatic approach that got the job done which is not at all different from how the Americans are doing it in Iraq and elsewhere. MR cannot convince a fool of this because guy is just stupid, he cannot convince this of a hypocrite because his reasoning is warped, he cannot convince this of a vicious for they are not interested in his side of the story but have other agendas.

  190. Ironically a human right warrior of the past is being haunted by human right activists now.

    As much as we praise GoSL for its accomplishment in putting an end to LTTE menace, we condemn it if the number of people killed is even closest to the numbers being alleged. It is a colossal loss, cannot be attributed as a collateral damage.

    What is disappointing most is, the report is explicit about the excesses of GoSL in this war yet some are arguing for the perpetrators, instead of saying a wrong is a wrong. This happened amongst us also at times when some intellectuals kept on defending, praising, and singing of LTTE despite their blatant violation of law and order. In the end what they sung turned out to be swan song for them. If one cannot say a wrong is a wrong for some reasons, says the persons responsible for the wrong is a powerful one and saying what he did was wrong is not in the best interest of one’s future being, then best thing to do for future of SL is to be silent. Give them a chance to correct their wrongs-defending does not let them.

    Menace of LTTE eradicated two years ago, and the world knew what they were up to and no point flogging the dead horse. What world does not know until now is if this many perished; whether GoSL has its own number to counter this and to erase this tarnished image; what it did with those families that lost its bread winners or in the case of a child became orphan. Does the GoSL have remorse for what had happened? Is it pursuing the political solution that it envisaged before and during the war?

    The tsunami it faces now is its own making, cannot blame anyone. Waged a war without witnesses; not yet allowed the media to areas where the NFZ was-why? Asked people to assemble inside NFZ; shelled them blaming a few LTTEs mingled with civilian or vice versa. Wasted time focussing on things that earn cheap publicities rather than dealing with issues that have been for years when an ideal opportunity was presented. Allegedly tortured those who surrendered; captured these views; handed those photos to CH4, and stopped that panel from entering into the island. In all these, where can Tamils or TNA could be blamed. I am amazed on the details this report reveals.

    As to the crimes committed or not, there is a saying in Tamil, a single rice taken from a pot would be sufficient to say (or indicate)if the pot of rice cooked or not. The mysteries surrounding the fate of Ramesh, leader of LTTE East, would shed some light as to what happened to others also. A video saw him being interrogated posted a few weeks ago, posted at Lankasri and, now the same media put out another video showing his body. If GoSL wants to prove these accusations are wrong why cannot produce him before a judge. These are the response IC would look for. Ridiculing UN or its panel would not do any good for SL. It is all becoming pretty obvious, you cannot simply bury a pumpkin into a bowl of rice- another saying.

  191. Mahinda will soon meet with Bin Laden and Prabakaran and they will all be buddies drinking arrack.

  192. Dear AIA,

    I read your post. Do you think the US wanted to Osama to stand trial? Do you believe that when the press say with glee that orders were to kill and not take prisoner.?

    So whats the difference between Al queda and the LTTE other than been no 1 and no2 terrorist organisation in the world? Who killed more innocent people SLA or LTTE will the report bring justice to thousands of innocent killed from the begining of the LTTE activity? Dont they exist ?

  193. Dear DBS
    Since I consider you as a very professional Journalist who deliver very detail but at the same time very readable information with your articles. This is very difficult to find. Just suggest you… Can you write an article on Capturing of Osama ? Really like to see an international article from you…
    Please give your kind consideration on this.
    Jayanath

  194. Bin Laden carried a personal message from MR, to VP “buddy, could you please reserve a few seats for me & my family for double the amount of money I had paid you before the election”, VP seemed agreed in spite of the risk of family rule in hell. SWRD, JR …… & others were not happy.

  195. But Obama also treated Osama with dignity. His body was not paraded naked till this moment, unlike the VP’s body. From the first this campaign was against terror. What was the agenda of the Osama? To establish a Muslim state. For this he didn’t want to negotiate with any one. Negotiation was out of place. He declared that there are only two set of people Believers and the infidels.

    He declared Jihad against others. Jihad cannot be declared just like that at the throw of the hat. Only a moulvi could do declare it. Was he a moulvi? We do not know for certain.

    Unlike Osama VP had a political agenda of establishing a separate nation for him, where the history of the Tamils will not be twisted with any Mahavamsa.

    You want to call all those who are against you as fools, stupid and also you may prefer to use choicest expletives against them as well.

    Go ahead.

    All this UN report and other stuff would not have gained any acceptability had MR gone berserk with peace offensive by giving political solution to the Tamils. Instead his only agenda is to vanquish and kill as many Tamils as he could putting the blame on the LTTE.

    That is main reason for this UN report and other stuff.

  196. In the second photo of this article dayan jayatilleke seems to be telling up yours to the US,just like osama did in sept 11.

    Obama got Osama. Those atheists who are skeptic about the existence of god,can they explain how come only the s substituted by b is the difference between the 2 names.Out of the billions of names in the world one is selected that is practically the same as osama,a black american to boot and made president and he is the one who gets osama.Why did he select a black man?Is it to give the whites also a message.Is there a message to us from god or is it just a co-incidence.I remember when the milk drinking of Lord Ganesh took place there were scientists who were saying it could be capillary action.When god sends us a sign of his existence the skeptics will always shoot it down.Why i’am saying all this is we don’t need to crack our heads over justice too much. Even if you escape justice from humans yu can never escape the wrath of god.

    So Bush could not get osama though he was ranting and raving about war on terror 24/7.The quiet Obama who hardly talks about such things finally got the glory.It came on a platter to him with a tip off in august 2010. He patiently followed it up until he was sure.

    However all is not well with the way god views america.Since september 11 it has been natural disaster after natural disaster followed by economic problems too. Americans must rethink the way they are handling their foreign policy especially towards the poor palestinians who are refugees in their own land.They should not let american jews control their foreign policy.If they continue like this devastating other countries with their war on terror policy then they too will face the ultimate wrath of god when he gets fed up.

  197. So whats the difference between Al queda and the LTTE other than been no 1 and no2 terrorist organisation in the world?
    ——

    You seems to be clever, and know one difference.
    Many srilankan citizens dont even know the difference between LTTE and Al Queda.

  198. Those who are interested in Osama can refer other sites. Jeyaraj, I suggest you that this blog shall can be confined to SL issues. Discussion about international issues dilutes the matter. Osama’s killing may be analyzed in the context of SL and the impact it is going to have in SL politics.

  199. “Unlike Osama VP had a political agenda of establishing a separate nation for him”

    In which dreamworld are you living?

  200. Dilshan, Assume that you and your friend (or enemy) had committed a crime together. Also assume that you are alive and your friend (or enemy) is dead. Case is filed against you since you are alive. How do you expect a case to be registered against your friend (or enemy)?

  201. Can I ask a simple question from U Mr. Mahesh.

    R U willing to live in a state ruled by VP.

  202. Now// The figures quoted in the panel report are not accurate or proven.. but alleged. What they recommend is an investigation to prove or disapprove. For this the country concerned should give consent. what the many SL are arguing is we don’t want to know numbers. How accurate could these be?

    Its best to forgive and forget and get on with the lives on earth. Harbouring revenge and bitterness will not bring a solution for the burning problems the living victims are facing.

    We need to bring back the values that were lost during the war and the culture and hope. Politicians playing ball with the lives of victims for their own gain & selfish ambitions.

  203. Why not blame everything on God ?

    So the end time prophesies of the bible is hovering around us ha?

    What are we fighting for if the world is ending soon? Make sure u are on God’s side to be safe.

  204. Manju says
    “What is the difference between Gaddafi and Rajapakses?”

    One has both oil & blood on his hands, the other one has only blood.

  205. I think that the Osama killing has impact in the Sri lankan issue. now we know that US went into a sovereign state crashed its own helicopter, killed a fugitive and some others and brought the trophy home. Ole KP must be sighing in relief as the same nearly did happen to him.

    What this means is that the US acting as the global policeman showed very clearly that when it comes to American interests international law does not arise.

    The Obama issue will be taken as an issue by China, Russia and other anti western forces as a serious upheaval on Global balance of power.

  206. M.Sivananthan

    I am not a tamed LTTE or dam paid agent of War crime regime like you.

    So, you think people from Vanni can’t write? therefor you claim yourself as ‘Vanian’ and telling lies on this site??

    Don’t judge the book by cover. you can’t even judge me , how can you judge SL army killed over 40,000 civilians?

    If SL state terrorism killed over 40,000, 20,000 or even 7,000 civilian, crime is crime.Gov or state army can’t behave like this with own citizens.Still at vanni womens repeatedly rape by occuping army and people forced to live in fear.

    You don’t have guts to quetion the authority but diverting the attention to protect your goons.

    “Who killed the most number of Tamil Civilian and Sinhalese Civilian by the name of LTTE and JVP?”

    “why not allow UN go in to Vanni and do the investigation with victim families?”

    if you are sincere person you had been answer my question as straight.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8i8no_30-families-wiped-out-in-massive-at_music

    Are these innocents look like Tigers to your eyes or you lying on civilian death for your culprit colleagues?

    In Vanni we say ‘ Nalla Madduku Oru Suudu’

  207. It is interesting how the Diaspora has dragged Osama to the current political debate in Srilanka.

    With his dwindling political fortune, Mr Obama badly needed a window of opportunity to try and regain lost ground. This is it.

    It is hard to believe that Osama survived the obliteration of the Bora Bora and live with his family for ten years in Pakistan which is virtual American territory as far as it’s Military strength is concerned..

    Latest reports from the White House says, Osama was not armed and his wife rushed the Navy Seals to protect him.What a security arrangement for the number one enemy of the number one military and economic power in the World.?

    It further says that the release of the Body is not a good move because of the gruesome nature of it.

    Very complicated scenario to comprehend.

    When the LTTE leadership was killed they were armed to the teeth.They were killed in face to face fighting.

    Yet the UN and its current allies of the West charge Srilanka with War Crimes and demand international investigations.

    Is the UN SG going to ask for an investigation of the Osama assassination?

    A reporter at the recent White House press briefing asked whether killing Gaddafi Son and his three children come under the UN approval of the EU and US invasion .

    Is the UN SG going to investigate the deaths of at least the three children who surely could not have been armed?

  208. Robert blake, the US asst. secretary of state for south and central asia is i think the most important person for the resolution of the tamil issue. He has been to srilanka in the last few days and i give below a link from the daily mirror that will give an idea of how important his thinking on these issues are going to be in the future.

    http://print.dailymirror.lk/opinion1/42838.html

  209. This question is irrelevant. I am no supporter of LTTE or VP. But your actions I am afraid could justify his atrocities. You people have still not given any political solution and have broken down many an accord and killed innocents to threaten the tamils enmasse.

    Please answer those things before you demand an answer for this one question.

    You people were responsible for the creation of this monster.

  210. “””””” In the nineteen thirties, overambitious Tamil leaders attacked the Sinhalese in their virulent speeches resulting the first Sinhala -Tamil riots; the situation was exploited politically by the Sinhalese opportunistic chauvinists “”””

    U all ran away from VP and R willing to live under MR & company rather than TNA.

    Go and ask the same question from the Tamil ppl living happily in Colombo..

  211. That s so sweet isn’t it?..but war criminals are still around, emergency laws are still there , Tamil areas are still militarized…heavily. Media is still not free. With the international pressure , war criminals will do anything to keep the power so that they can escape from justice , at any cost..Sri lanka will become another Libya, North Korea + discrimination of Tamils ….
    Dear Assitha Justice and accountability are not for the past …it s for a better future for all people in Sri lanka.
    All people in Sri lanka wanted different gvts to find a solution to the ethnic problem in Sri lanka..what MR gang did is eliminating the problem itself brutally ! Any government can win a war , particularly a civil war against its own citizens , when it has the budget and specifically if it has no regards for civilians…Guess what Sri lanka would have done in May 2009 if it had some mini atomic bombs…?

  212. But they are both friends ..arent they ?
    If I know who are your friends and i will know who you are….

  213. Anonymous

    The point is not Osama or Prabakaran . The point is about innocents, if we would have save one or two from the innocents in that 40,000. If yes they will be living with u and me in this earth now.
    Leave Praba, Osama and all armed people. Let s talk about innocent, like u and me who don’t have arms to protect from armed people
    We Sri Lankan strongly believe in violence a solution we know. We don’t allow different opinion. We have only one language of violent to solve many issues.
    Take JVP LTTE and any non violent pretest all we use violence to combat. Let us learn a lesson for this crime for both Tamils and Sinhalese. What are the mistakes of LTTE and Government on innocent SL people?
    I still can’t understand my Sinhalese friends. If cat die next door my Sinhalese friend came share the sorrow with neighbor. How did they allowed 40,000 to die, and no one as record a single tear drop for those innocents
    We need a big change for all people to remove our violent thinking from our mind, that could be achieve by investigating into the facts by us or others
    This not for u and me this is for our children

  214. Dear Palani,

    How can u accuse the sinhalese common man for killing ?40,000 civillians? This number is not proved it is alleged.

    How do u know that the sinhalese were non sensitive for the suffering of the trapped civillians? We wanted the LTTE to release the innocent but they never did until the civillians ran out of the broken walls. some were released may be on the 15th of May. Many crossed over and sinhalese were the first to go and assist them. many doctors, teachers and volunteers went to the north spending on their own to help the IDPs. Most of the sinhala people could not influence the government or its policy at that time. Of course all wanted to see the LTTE finished once & for all.

    Unless we overcome that ‘sinhalese are the arch enemy of the tamils’ there will be minimal reconcilliation. It is time to look beyound race, religion, caste and politics. Inculcate the lost humane values. Let there be leaders with great virtue and wisdom. Let there be a mahathma Ghandi or a MLK.

  215. As I said long time back in this blog, all terrorist die a violent death. This includes hitler,saddam,red brigades etc However US did not spare any civilians and now we find Osama was not armed. So whats the excuse to execute him? Famous australian human rights lawyer geoffry robertson has said the summary excecution by US is a violation of human rights. how is Blake going to defend US actions when he meets Gota? Tamil’s who were with LTTE and got killed were LTTE or their sympathisers. they were not spectators trying to watch an interesting episode. The UN report does nothing to foster good will between sinhalese and Tamils but the silly TNA seems to be going to town with it. They will get their returns in due course.

  216. Dear M. Sivananthan,

    i am glad that u are living in SL & in vanni. U r not afraid to spell out what u think is right. I wish you could shed some of your attitudes for the greater good of common Sri lankans.

    Its best to look and think beyound race, caste , religion and party politics. This as destroyed our beutiful island nation. Please /// at this point we all know the mistakes we have done. Now we should think how we should look forward with a common goal to live peacefully in this nation. The problems are enormous. Mostly beyound a political solution alone. The war had destroyed the core of life & hope. The social problems that had errupted during the war is been magnified now. We need to over come or petty differences and think as Sri Lankans and work together.

    Its best to voice our opinions loud . Also learn to listen to the others too. Not to repeat the mistakes of using terror and suppression, which back fired in the past.

    The language issue is real, it has to be addressed promptly, where problems still exist. Equal rights to all citizens should be upheld. Law & order should be equal to all citizens including politicians. correct attitudes of the common man regarding the above will bring the necessary changes quickly.

    Tax payers money should be equally distributed for the common welfare for the whole society and in the country, to all regions.Too much public money is wasted to maintain a huge cabinet of ministers. These should be addressed.

    Head hunting & black listing will not going to bring us sustainable peace.

    We need men of virtue and honour. I always admired Dr. Rajasingham Narendran’s comments. Recently he had not commented in this blog. He inspires all of us to look at the reality and beyound our differences. We need leaders who are unbiased and who could look beyound race, religion and politics.

    Yet to see one.

  217. Thank u Shankar for the link. Yes so there is some hope for a political solution if what the writer says is true.

    But now the sinhala hardcores are on the top again.
    Lets wait & c how savy MR could be.
    Will he or will he not?

  218. Why are you forgetting about Anagarika Dharmapala. Why are you not talking about the cancellation of the citizenship rights to the up country tamils. Why are you not talking about the annulled BC pact and the DC pact.

    So in your opinion the Sinhalese are as white as snow and the tamils are to be blamed.

    What was the over ambitious. With your Mahavamsa mentality you have denied the Tamils of their rights to their traditional lands in the North and the East.

    Don’t talk as though you are all innocent and all the blame attaches only to the Tamils.

    You and your monks ….those monks….who claim to have renounced everything to attain Nirvana.

    Only thing they didn’t do or rather I don’t know whether they did or not is to kill the Tamils putting on the civilian clothes.

  219. Here is an excerpt from an article that highlights the important para of the UN advisory report.

    [So, what does the UN report say? The report states that tens of thousands of lives were lost in the final days of the war, and indicts the Sri Lankan government for the way it conducted the war.

    An important paragraph that would strengthen charges of genocidal intent of the Sri Lankan government, reads thus: “Most civilian casualties in the final phases of the war were caused by Government shelling. The Government systematically shelled hospitals on the frontlines…(and) deprived people in the conflict zone of humanitarian aid in the form of food and medical supplies, particularly surgical supplies, adding to their suffering. To this end, it purposefully underestimated the number of civilians who remained in the conflict zone]

  220. Gaddafi- Muslim murderer
    Rajapakse- Buddist murderer
    Prabakaran- A Hindu murderer created by Sinhales

  221. Osama was waging a war against US even though the basic rights of Muslims were not denied by US.Why is there so much continued support for Tamils in Sri Lanka? Because no one Sinhalese or Tamil has free speech rights in Sri Lanka.Those who spoke against the government are no longer in existence.

  222. Anonymous

    Were there any survivors who walked out of the Osama mansion alive ? If so why ? The relevant question here is, why there was no wholesale slaughter in the mansion similar to what happened in Mullaivaikkal? If you are willing to debate this with an open mind, go ahead or else please keep quiet. Perhaps you do not know the complete story or you are pretending that you don’t know !

  223. Osama’s wife is not directly responsible for Osama’s criminal actions.Tamils should not face retribution for Prabakarn’s crimes.Similarly the Sinhalese people are not responsible for the injustices perpetrated by successive governments on minorities.The families who lost their loved ones during the war have a right to know exactly what happened to their kith and kin, whether they are dead or live. Anyyone would want to know how they met an end to their lives. It’s just human nature.

  224. The real question you should ask is “””How many civilians died in the 10 years search of OBL and how many civilians(Including woman and children) died in the war against terror in the hands of US”””. The question you are asking is close minded, not open minded.

  225. It’s this mentality which created LTTE. May be that’s why VP ordered slaughter of novice monks in Aranthalawa or bombing of “Dalada Maligawa”. Who supplied funds to by arms for all these.

    You are still avoiding my first question.

    Where were you all when LTTE chased out all Sinhalese and Muslims from there homes.

    Find and read “Mahawansa” first.

    Your words “”Obama also treated Osama with dignity”” by killing unarmed OBL.

    Can I ask another question “””””What you expect MR to do “during the final stages of the conflict”…… Go back to negotiation table…???? Giving Prabakaran a ceasefire period….????? Taking Prabakaran and the gang as POWs…???????”””””

  226. Gavin says:

    May 4, 2011 at 7:31 am
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    Tamil’s who were with LTTE and got killed were LTTE or their sympathisers. they were not spectators trying to watch an interesting episode. The UN report does nothing to foster good will between sinhalese and Tamils but the silly TNA seems to be going to town with it. They will get their returns in due course
    ———————————————–

    The UN panel advisory report clearly mentions how the civilians were shot at by the LTTE when they tried to escape. We all knew at that time this was true because the government reported these incidents in full, but of course completely blacked out the other parts of the story of what they were doing to the civilians.How would you like if your sister was raped and killed and there is a complete news blackout,and then let us say shankar comes out and says on this blog that gavin’s sister deserved it because she was taken as hostage by the LTTE and did not try to escape from their clutches,so the bitch deserves being gang raped and killed.

    As for the the TNA,i don’t know what is the fuss about.They have merely said they welcome the panels findings, and that’s quite predictable and not unusual for politicians representing the tamils people in areas where they were devastated by the conflict.You can see compared to tamilnadu, their response has been quite lukewarm.They have done the minimum that they have to do to maintain their goodwill with the tamil people by stating that they welcome the findings of the report. AS TRN pointed out and has given the link the findings are very damning for the LTTE too and the rump abroad will also start feeling the heat soon.

    If the TNA had said that mahinda should be charged in an international criminal court then i can say that they have embarked on a confrontational path. Since they have not done so i believe that the hardline sinhalese like you and ratnasiri wickremanayake are just waiting for an excuse to sabotage them and the political solution,because of your inherent dislike of the tamils,for some personal reason or other.

  227. What is the difference between accusing the government of war crimes and welcoming a panel report that does the same thing?

  228. Tamil’s who were with LTTE and got killed were LTTE or their sympathizers.

    ——————–

    It was plain to see that these people were herded like cattle and taken from place to place by LTTE. Given all that how could you assume all of them were LTTE sympathizers? How many people tried to escape LTTE even when they were been gunned down?

  229. It is bad a time for Fr Emanuel and his cronies as western countries are preoccupied with Osama bin Laden’s death. If Fr Emanuel and his cronies are interested in the well being of Tamils living in North-and East, they should first visit there and ask the opinion of the people living there. Why unarmed Osama was executed? Is western countries excepted from human right violation?

  230. dilshanf

    You have expressed your desire. But that is not the fact. USA captured Iraq and hanged Saddam Hussain. What were China and Russia doing? USA captured Afghanistan. What were China and Russia doing? USA conducted an operation in Pakistan soil without properly informing Pakistani leaders and officials. What did China and Russia do?

    You think that China and Russia will come together to fight against USA which will not happen at all. China and Russia have their own problems to settle. So called Asian Superpowers will never dare to fight against USA and other western countries. You think that China and Russia will come forward to save Rajapakse & co. China and Russia may use their veto power in UN to protect SL. If USA goes for a military action against SL (which may happen if Rajapakse and co continue to follow a fascist attitude towards fellow tamils) China and Russia will never interfere.

    Tamil’s legitimate struggle (not LTTE’s armed struggle) was crushed only because of 9/11 attacks. Fugitive behind 9/11 is no more. This may open a new era in recognizing the legitimate struggle of the minorities and suppressed all over the world.

    You say that ‘US acting as the global policeman showed very clearly that when it comes to American interests international law does not arise’. But your Colombo’s diplomat Dayan Jayatilake has equated the genocide of GoSL and imperialism (euphemism for violating the sovereignty of other countries) of USA. Don’t forget that GoSL can continue its racist and fascist attitude towards fellow Tamils only if it has the tacit support of USA.

  231. TRN , I didn’t accuse, I just shared my feeling that many didn’t worry for innocent civilian in the warzone, at that moment. As u correctly answered the second reason “all wanted to see the LTTE finished once & for all” but for this goal, the cost we paid with many innocent life.

    There is a saying in Tamil “if a country is going to benefit it is wise to destroy a village” we have done that in SL. But always remember the final scream made by those innocents for their lives is in the Air. That sin will be permanent for all of us who couldn’t or didn’t do anything for those lives

    TRN, Many Sinhalese people helped Tamils in the past this goes back to 1958. 1978 in 1983 and 2009. And they will continue to help Tamils in future violence going to happen in 201X, 201y and 20xx, if we don’t find a permanent solution for this issue.

    Tamil don’t need help they need equal rights in the United Sri Lanka. For that please study where we went wrong in past.

    All SL Tamil together Sinhalese can build a Dreamed Sri Lanka. For that violence should be removed from the mind of people from both Tamil and Sinhalese.
    Protect Sri Lanka not an individual

  232. Dear Palani
    the final scream made by those innocents for their lives is in the Air. That sin will be permanent for all of us who couldn’t or didn’t do anything for those lives.

    __________________________________
    The collective guilt is equal to both sides . The innocent blood was shed for years before May 2009. How many bombs in buses, bus stands, air port, trains, central bank bomb…. how many screamed their last ! how many boarder villagers were killed cold blooded for revenge…
    If we keep pointing fingers we can go on forever. We need to get over this. Revenge and reconsilliation will not happen at the same time.
    Forgiveness and accepting one’s fault will overcome the festering cancer in our hearts.

    The voice for justice is a voice for revenge.

    We all know both sides have blood in their hands. if justice is meted equally all will perish. We need to say enough is enough… lets get on with life now… we are brothers & sisters not enemies !! Don’t let the politicians spoil our future again. it is now or never.

    If you have watched the Lion king -2, the end of the film gives a beautiful message to all of us Sri Lankans.
    Have peace within you sister.

  233. Response to shankar 4th may:

    Those who died around LTTE, LTTE bears responsibility, not GOSL. OK. If Civilians were forced to go with them and they lost their lives. That is LTTE’s fault to intentionally to use them as human shields. But LTTE is no longer there. So the best thing tamils do is to flog GOSL! LTTE published killings done by GOSL on the tamil net. It was not a one sided story.

    If my sister was raped and killed, I would ask the same question. What was she doing in the conflict zone? counting dead bodies for the mr Moon? TNA welcomes a baseless UN report because they want to muddy the waters and be popular with the tamils. First TNA were lackeys of LTTE. Then supported fonseka against government. Then kicked out Piyasena ampare MP because he wouldn’t toe anti GOSL line etc etc and at least 70% of their MP’s are LTTE supporters’. How do the tamils get any reconciliation from GOSL with this mob?

    There is no LTTE rump to feel any heat from this report. LTTE tamils don’t care a toss. They are rubbing their hands gleefully as shit is on GOSL via this cock and bull report. You are saying things you know is not right.
    Obama killed Bin Lardin. He is a hero while MR finished VP and the whole LTTE bunch. He is a pariah. How come?

    Now Binladin’s own daughter says father was captured alive and then executed. That means Obama was blatantly lying. I think seals put the gun in auto mode to BL’s mouth and pulled the trigger. So his photo’s cannot be released. Shows the brutality with which these upholders of human rights acted when it came their part to show how civilized they were when confronted with terrorism!!

  234. It’s this mentality which created LTTE. May be that’s why VP ordered slaughter of novice monks in Aranthalawa or bombing of “Dalada Maligawa”. Who supplied funds to by arms for all these.

    ——————————————–

    So all the actions of your monks are well in order, their participation in the politics and even their killing of a President.

    A lot has been discussed about Mahavamsa in this blog. Go and read all those stuff, if you want to.

    Your monks denied the past history of the Tamils in the island. That is the first reason for all these things.

    Who is going to kill monks had they restricted themselves with only spiritual matters. Why did your monks enter into the politics.

    Whatever Anagarika Dharmapala said was distilled racism. The history of the island belongs equally to the Tamils and the Sinhalese.

    That is the root cause of this conflict.

  235. My dear Mahesh,

    I never ‘Gave’ prawn curry and naan to the wonderful tamil speaking employees of mine. I ATE with them. I celebrated Thaipongal with them and I have to do it again. My employees do not need me to offer them alms, they are proud and I am proud of them.

    If you say I do not know about the tamils then my education and association with them since the age of six till now is a farce.

    Perhaps what you mean is that I do not know anything about tamils who call themselves the LTTE, – yes you are right. I do not know them who kill by bombs and axes and clubbing to death babies and mothers.

    I stand by my statement by saying that you got carried away by the statement you made, ‘IN ALL THE INTENTION TO KILL THE TAMILS ENMASSE WAS THERE.’ – if so there would be no IDP camps and the people trapped within the clutches of the LTTE in the NFZ would not have left. If you want to talk of numbers more than 350,000 left and the allegation is that 40,000 were killed. so is this 10%, do we talk numbers of the dead whether it is tens of thousands over a period of 30 years or 40,000 in six.

    Either way I detest the fact that you twist words to say that I gave prawn curry and naan insinuating that it was given to the poor and the hungry tamil employees of mine.

    And I will say you got your facts wrong again!!

  236. Yogesh,

    I have no argument with you. We cannot change to whom we are born. I could have been born to tamil parents and be tamil. The only thread that keeps sanity alive is to be human.

    permit me to blog here a message I received from one of my dear friends with reference to a sermon. I quote’

    This time, this young gentleman, challenged a packed church to consider the extent of racism in us !

    His challenge was that despite denials by anyone ….that the vast majority are in fact racist …….and that it has no place in the life of a Christian …that we are all guilty to some extent or another and that we have to internally confront it and make a personal commitment to take action, to make the death and resurrection of our Lord of practical value in our own lives …

    We had 4 consecutive speakers of the Tamil community speaking about hurt, forgiveness and reconciliation.

    This was the FIRST TIME i ever heard a pulpit being used to say that a tamil must understand the hurt of the sinhala people; forgiveness being asked and forgiveness to be given for what the LTTE has done ….not only for the sinhala people ….but also for the tamil people who also suffered much from the LTTE……and this was by a person who was a resident of Jaffna during war years.

    By the same token sinhala people must ask for forgiveness for the organised programme that took place in 1983 ….this has never properly been done in our land despite the fact that every sinhalese is ashamed of what happened ……….it is also a fact that Christians did not do much to stop the situation from sliding into having had to have an all out war …..and for all that happened as a result. …and for the fact that all of this was in turn the result of horror taking place across the Nation which was never effectively condemned ……..that is all now in the past and it is only by accepting reality can forgiveness be asked and given for wrong that has taken place on all sides, which each of us feels in a different way .

    So Yogesh I have no quarrel with you fighting for your rights without causing hurt to anyone.
    cheers!

  237. If your sister was with you and God forbid you raped her, even though your sister was with you she would not be held responsible.

    Prabakaran and BL were captured alive and both of them needed to be put away. Are telling us they both deserved to be treated differently?

  238. I think the point Gavin is trying to make is not that VP and BL were taken out the way they were, but the fact that in BL’s case the West and its mouthpieces have absolutely no issue with what was done, but when GOSL does the same with VP and his gang, everyone is talking about the legalities and war crimes. I think the point here is why is it ok for US to do that and not ok for a country like SL to do it.

    The facts that are emerging today in the media, 4 days after OBL incident, are that US had absolutely no intention of taking him alive. He was executed and that was the plan all along. It would not have mattered if he was waving a white flag or not, or pleading for life, they still would have executed him. If they wanted to capture him and take him back to US for a trial, they could have very easily done it. He was not armed, he did not have any bodyguards with him. Now personally, I don’t have any problem with what happened. But the question needs to be asked, because of the sanctimonious moral posturing of the West and US with regards to Sri Lanka. The question of why he was not taken and put on trial needs to be asked as they are asking that question with regards to the SL on the white flag incident.

  239. There would have been if there was resistance. The facts as they are emerging now shows that OBL was unarmed, was without any bodyguards whatsoever. They still killed him, despite the fact that they could have walked out with him to the helicopter and taken him to US to face the justice that they are so proud of.

  240. Dear All, Who ever missed the article below. I have cut & pasted the last few paras.
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    In the verbiage generated by the UN panel report, Sri Lanka’s failure to take adequate and speedy follow up action on some of the fundamental issues after the war should not be forgotten.

    These have been eloquently summed up by three eminent personalities of Sri Lanka when they addressed the LLRC. I am reproducing their words in the following paragraphs:

    – “Every citizen must have full confidence and trust that he will be protected by the legal system of the country and by the Constitution. There, we have a long way to go. To achieve this, there are some essential prerequisites:

    1. A Constitution which shields all citizens from abuse of power and authority and guarantees them against any denial or erosion of their rights;

    2. Freedom of information and complete transparency of government. [Justice CG Weeramantry, Justice of the Supreme Court of Sri Lanka 1967-72 & a Judge of the International Court of Justice (1991-2000)]

    – “The Tamils have undergone, and are undergoing immense hardship. We need to reach out to them…. We have persistently discriminated against the Tamil people from 1956….Now I must tell you of a very, very sad situation, particularly bad and dangerous situation. We have in our prisons over 2000 young Tamil men. Some of them in the Remand Prisons have been taken on suspicion. Just picked up and taken in for detention without charges for years. [K Godage, former Sri Lankan diplomat]

    -“Years of inequitable allocation of national resources and consequential disparities in regional economic development, infrastructure development and public service delivery have sown the seeds of discontent and disillusionment leading to conflict, insurrections of the South and the North and even the armed struggle towards a separate administration.” [Chandra Jayaratne, member of the Board of Directors of the International Centre for Ethnic Studies and a former President of Ceylon Chamber of Commerce]

    Actions taken on the above aspects are too few, tardy and time consuming; they are mired in bureaucracy. The lack of progress in construction of 100,000 houses India offered to build is a good example. So rather than getting hot under the collar over UN panel report which is of limited consequence, Sri Lanka should clean up its act. It has no alternative. That would serve Sri Lanka’s larger interests of nation building. Then there would not be any need for scoring brownie points in international forums.

    (Col R Hariharan, a retired Military Intelligence specialist on South Asia, served with the Indian

  241. Gavin says:

    May 5, 2011 at 7:00 am

    Those who died around LTTE, LTTE bears responsibility, not GOSL. OK. If Civilians were forced to go with them and they lost their lives. That is LTTE’s fault to intentionally to use them as human shields. But LTTE is no longer there

    If my sister was raped and killed, I would ask the same question. What was she doing in the conflict zone? counting dead bodies for the mr. Moon?

    There is no LTTE rump to feel any heat from this report

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    Beg to differ. The question that should be asked is who killed them. IF LTTE killed them,then LTTE is responsible. If government killed them,then government is responsible. These citizens followed the instructions of the government and went into the ‘safe zones’ designated by the government thinking they will be safe there,while this conflict rages on.Are you trying to say that your sister is at fault for being caught up in a conflict zone.It is like a person being caught up in a natural disaster or in a train crash. It can happen to any of us.Obviously you don’t love your fellow human beings and i don’t blame you for that because it is your DNA profile and you are what you are and i’am what i’am, but at least you can keep your moouth shut without strutting about in your undies for all the world to see.The more you comment the more you remove your clothes until you will be like an uncivilised neanderthal.

    The LTTE infiltrated the safe zones and used the civilians as human shields. That is why i say all the charges against gota for killing LTTE leaders should be dropped,because they certainly deserved what they got,but here we are talking about the civilians.

    As for the LTTE rump,which world are you living in. They are safe and well and flourishing in western countries. The UN advisory panel report is damning for the LTTE too. So by TNA welcoming the report they are accepting the findings against them. So if the western countries try to take action against srilanka,then srilanka should ask what are you doing about the LTTE rump that is ensconsed within you.The government should ask the cleanup of war criminals in srilanka and the LTTE rump to be done simultaneously.It is not an unreasonable request and the western nations will be in a dilemma. I won’t be surprised if the LTTE rump which is now vociferous about the report goes quiet and just puts a squeak out once in a way,because they coundn’t care a hoot for the tamil people anyway,only their own skins.When they find that they have to move out of these countries they will think twice about welcoming the report.

  242. Gavin,
    TNA welcomes a baseless UN report because they want to muddy the waters and be popular with the tamils.
    _________________________________

    I think TNA wants to be popular with diaspora tamils. SL tamils/ the real war victims, in the vanni & east may not know anything about this report for sure.

    Any one please tell me, how these victims of war going to benefit from this report?

  243. Dear Palani
    the final scream made by those innocents for their lives is in the Air. That sin will be permanent for all of us who couldn’t or didn’t do anything for those lives.
    ____________________________

    This is the sentimental poet within me. When the dark clouds start hovering over Sri Lanka, when ever a big celebration is to take place, this thought keep coming to my mind again & again.

    The spirits of the victims of the past terror, binds together in dark clouds and their tears of anguish pour down to the mother earth. some times causing devastation.

    Its a time for repentance and forgiveness. it is a time to change from within.

  244. S. C. Pasqual,

    The more u argue with Mahesh, the more oppertunity u give him to sling mud at sinhalese & GOSL.

    Ignore him. These Indians are sitting on a loads of shit and they are senseless. They only try to clean the shit from their neighbour’s gardens. While they rot on their own shit.

  245. It is true that the government asked the civilians to move into the safe zone. Yet, we all know that LTTE also went into the safe zone along with the civilians and started firing at the government. At that point the government has no option but to return fire. Hence the fault lies with the LTTE and not the government– which this panel report does not highlight. In that situation all that any government can do is try its level best to avoid hitting civilians when firing at LTTE positions inside the safe zone.

    If you look at the photographs shown in the UN panel report that show government’s firing positions and alleged paths taken by shells, though they do a very good job to show that government was in fact firing at locations inside the safe zone, they do not show the LTTE positions inside the safe zone at the time government was firing; particularly, whether LTTE positions were directly in the firing path!!!

    As for using this report to get the west to investigate the LTTE rump, that’s a none starter. How can one talk logic with hypocrites? You cannot make a case by argument with hypocrites. Blake may be your favorite man right now but he is a hypocrite. He says what Clinton wants him to say and Clinton does what local politicians want her to do and local politicians do what their voting Diaspora ask them to do. There is no right, wrong, ethical, unethical, just, unjust, moral, immoral, truth or false in this. When you are a hypocrite you can find infinitely many ways to justify your arguments and when you are the all mighty, regardless of what you say its always right. Now try your odds at that! Are you aware of the position taken by Susan Rice on Goldstone Report? Now compare her position on UN panel on Sri Lanka. Susan Rice is no.2 in state dept. So much for her Stanford/Oxford education.

  246. Nothing wrong in eliminating VP and co. Similarly nothing wrong in eliminating Osama. But if half population of Abottabad district had been eliminated then it warrants war crime or crime against human kind. I hope you understand what I come to say.

  247. Shankar,

    If people got killed in a battle zone when both parties are at war how do you establish who killed whom? What evidence ordinance would you follow in such an event? is it going to be a summary trial or non summary trial? Is cross examination of the witnesses allowed? Is there a prima facie case established? While your statement is good for the spin, it cannot be practically implemented. The whole argument is fundamentally flawed and practically unworkable.
    Navin has supplied you with an answer about the safe zones and other matters which I agree and I shall not go over that ground.

    Who in the LTTE rump could be indicted for war crimes? What are their names? Addresses? Can you link these people to war crimes? I think it is just impracticable and unworkable. Tamils know that very well. Whereas GOSL is there and can be indicted. So while you say TNA is also having a shot at LTTE rump, in actual fact they(rump) are out of reach and the exercise is a bogus display of sentiment showing TNA is fair by both parties when they very well know one party is out of reach. Navins’s word “hypocrites” is very appropriate under the circumstances.

  248. So what is preventing the SLG from seeking forgiveness from the Tamils? After all, the whole civil war and Prabakaran were products and of Sinhalese government from 1956 and their unyielding stance with moderate Tamils.Why is there yet a fair resolution?

  249. What? You wanted a trial for Bin Laden since he was unarmed. You guys work on the theory that your enemy’s enemy is your friend. Why did not Mahinda think of getting together with Bin Laden the same way he is partying with Gaddafi and Karuna and Russia and China?

  250. To answer your questions why don’t you allow access to those areas and facilitate the UN to do investigation first hand.

    What do you have to hide to?

    Without doing all these things you want to say there is no evidence and no LTTE and only the GOSL etc.

    If you are bold enough allow access to those areas to UN and other people who are interested in investigating those things impartially.

  251. I do not care if OBL was give a trial or not. It is immaterial to me. But shouldn’t the people who are doing all the preaching about follwing judicial procedures when it comes to countries that they don’t like or have an issue with, shoul practice what they preach? That is all I am asking.

    As for treating your enemy’s enemy as your friend, isn’t that what US and UK did in WWII? They teamed up with their mortal enemy Stalin to defeat Hitler.

    As for SL getting together with Russia and China, those ties have been strong since the 50s. Remember the rubber-rice agreement between SL and China in 1950? That was in a time very few countries in the world would talk and trade with that country. A very enlightened policy in 1950s are now paying dividants thousands times more.

  252. The mightier of the two prevails. LTTE versus SLA, SLA won, Osama versus Obama, Obama won and MR versus UN, MR is taken as a war criminal. It is pointless arguing about it. Get it? If you still don’t get wait until it happens.What is this fascination over MR, a war criminal?

  253. The following comment from one Mr Somasunderam must be the best analysis of the current socio political situation in Srilanka.

    It is the best foundation to formulate a new future for the Tamil people living there.

    It is a pity that the so called know all Westerners ,including the current Sec Gen of the United Nations,who are supposed to have the best brains working for them couldn’t recognize this fundamental fact.

    Thank you Mr Somasunderam.

    ——“Dear Dr Karunaratne,
    I must confess that majority of Sri Lankans especially in the rural and to a large or fair degree in urban areas thank the current government for getting ride of the LTTE and any threat of bombs being planted indiscriminately. Therefore President Rajapakse and his current government are riding on this wave, irrespective of mistakes or faults by the government, for the reasons or factors mentioned. Therefore, it may be a waste of time, because unless any party and government in office do advocate a hard line and approach towards Tamils, they will not be voted into office. This is a fact historically in Sri Lanka and unless the majority Sinhalese population believe their sovereignty as a nation and as a people are at stake or any issues that fundamentally makes them afraid of a government in office, they will not advocate a change, as long as the are hardline in their approach and execution towards the Tamils. I sincerely hope and pray that this approach will change, but is a hard mind set, which is not easy to change. This does not mean at all that I am against any Sinhalese, because I value and appreciate them as a people, their culture and heritage, but it is fact, which I must honestly mention. Therefore I hope it is understood from this perspective, view and analysis.
    Yours Sincerely,”
    Muralidaran Ramesh Somasunderam.
    Posted by: Muralidaran Ramesh Somasunderam | April 24, 2011 10:39 AM

  254. Dear Manju,

    I have seen many posts where you accuse the SL Govt being responsible for producing the LTTE and VP. All of us are responsible for our own actions. people achieve their goals in many ways VP chose to kill and maim ordinary people at a scale never seen by the world at large. So did Bin Laden, So did Hitler. You are your won master. You are your own product. Do what is best by your own conscience.

  255. TRN : Any one please tell me, how these victims of war going to benefit from this report?

    It will protect them from further violance,state terrorism and riots.Their safelife,freedom of expression, humanrights will be gurented in future.

    Once this recomandation of the report will implemented as mentioned.

    Real Justice,True Democracy,Permanent Federal solution will be the benifit that unite srilanka and all citizens forever.

  256. Get real Mahesh, Investigate what?

    If you know the country you should know that there are hundreds of white 4WD vehicles painted UN in bold blue ,running in all parts of the North.

    Aren’t they UN personnel or as you always fabricate, may be these are White Vans of Mr Devananda!

    In addition wasn,t the UN on the ground since the LTTE took over these areas and until they were pushed out to the sea.

    Didn’t the UN personnel make notes and sent reports to their bosses on regular basis? Or were they just enjoying the scenary and the Srilankan hospitality?

    How come the UN that kept mum about the killings and bombings of innocent civilians for thirty years, want to investigate how the TTE and their para military forcethat perished in combat?

    Has the UN forgotten about the boastings of the late Messers Praba and Tamil Chelvam how they have organised their Para Military force of thousands in the Wanni to make it a killing field of the Sinhala soldiers?

    Didn’t the UN read the “Maraveer speeches” that were belted out year after year,about how the LTTE leader was going to do in the Srilankan Nation?

    Looks like your are oblivious to the situation as much as the UN.

  257. This article is from transcurrent news site. Cut & pasted last few paras.
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    Q4: As the report is released the government is stating that there is no truth in what is stated, that they are not willing to accept the report. Nevertheless, we are aware that the government had sent a delegation to meet the panel, led by its own AG.

    Yes, this in itself proves that the government has to accept this process, now the government is stating that the diaspora has misled the expert. We should not forget, neither the diaspora nor we can mislead an organization like United Nations. The government is also stating that the report is taking Sri Lanka before international criminal court. This is misleading Sri Lankan citizens, it is a false propaganda. This report has not stated anything like that. I think this report is seeking relief and solutions for hundreds and thousands of people affected by the war. Seeking a response from the government primarily since thousands came seeking protection finally from the government. I consider this report as a blessing. What happened during the war as shared by those who experienced has helped in the formulation of this report. Therefore, without trying to hide facts, we should come forward to bring relief to those who are suffering. The people affected are not asking for punishment, they are not seeking retributive justice, they want normalcy, returning back to their life and where they are living. They are seeking freedom and to live freely in the future. Therefore it is wrong to show that this report has been compiled to send Mahinda Rajapakse to the electric chair.

    Furthermore, to reject this report is an inhuman act. In so doing we are rejecting tears of a woman/mother or a child. Lives would have been lost as a consequence of a war of Sinhala, Tamil or any other person. Today in the North and East relatives and friends of those who have died during the war are unable to perform religious traditions for the souls of the departed.

    Q5: Various people of the government are stating that they are mobilizing people against this report and will take steps to inform the international community about the real situation. What would be the results of this kind of stubborn behaviour of the Sri Lankan government?

    I should first say it is Sri Lanka that has accepted in the recent past the concept of Court Martial or special tribunals. Sarath Fonseka has been found guilty and is imprisoned today as a result of such a court martial. The charges brought against him are not of criminal nature. They were related some `nuts and bolts’. If the government was following a correct path, such allegations would have been inquired by through our normal judicial process. A country that has resorted to using court martial is shouting and screaming about the international criminal court. Some are saying that there is an international conspiracy behind this report. This is a joke. You cannot hide behind the cover of such stories, like electric chair or the ICC. As I stated earlier, what is most important here is whether the report has a conscience. Whether we have a conscience as a nation as a people.

    The most important issue we have to address is the dangerous trend emerging. The government is attacking this report as an imperialist conspiracy. They are now proposing to link up with another imperialist camp seeking protection.

    Whether we are against the UN or not, their activities will not stop. You know that Wimal Weerawansa carried out a fast unto death in front of the UN but the UN did not stop from appointing the Expert Panel.

    Attempts made to reject the report actually means how much lies we are going to utter before the International committee. Therefore we should not look at this report as something against the motherland and try to whip up racism.

    Now we see very dangerous trends. Defence Secretary, Gotabaya Rajapakse, is publicly campaigning seeking assistance from Russia and China to protect Sri Lanka. This statement has grave international implications and will lead Sri Lanka into crisis point. We are all aware of the tensions between India, China and Russia. I don’t think India will react well to this statement. Gotabaya Rajapakse is not stating that he is seeking protection from India. On the other hand, what right has Gotabaya Rajapakse to make such statements which has political implications to this country. He is only an appointed secretary. If at all this statement should be made only by the President. That too should be done after extensive consultation held with the cabinet of ministers. If we behave in this manner the result would be alienation from the International community and we cannot stop that.

    Q6: What do you think the most appropriate action the government should take?

    I have stated earlier that this is something related to the conscience of Sri Lanka. The government of course can ignore this report, because the government has no obligation directly to be linked to this report. But the processes have to be handled with wisdom by Sri Lanka. We all know mistakes happen. They may have occurred unintentionally. It is appropriate that the government establish a mechanism to investigate into all allegations. It should be comprised of representatives of Tamil community, the UN, the President etc. Such a mechanism is normally called a transparent mechanism. Affected people must be allowed to come before this commission to speak freely and facilitate such a transitional justice process. It is very ugly to paint a false picture that this report is taking Sri Lanka before the ICC. This fear psychosis itself reveals that the government has actually committee wrong things.

    No democratic country can accept disappearances in the name of motherland. If a person is assassinated or has disappeared we need to investigate it. To call for such an investigation, how can it be wrong? In 1990 Mahinda Rajapakse went to Geneva, because the country failed to address the crime of disappearances. Why can’t the President accept the fact that the Tamil fathers and mothers went to another country and gave evidence because they didn’t get justice in Sri Lanka which is their own country.

    The other issue is this report is not only speaking about the crimes committed by the government, it has also criticized LTTE. The LTTE leaders who can respond to some of these allegations are now working closely with the government. If those who have committed crimes by being promoters of Chinthana, get absolved from crimes it’s a big problem. When a person is not a promoter of Mahinda Chinthana, they become conspirators of imperialism.

    (Translated from Interview inSunday RAVAYA dated 24/4/2011. Ms.Nimalka Fernando is President of IMADR an NGO )

  258. Once this recomandation of the report will implemented as mentioned.
    __________________________________

    What garantee u have that the recomandation of the report will implemented ?

  259. Dear TUN
    Real Justice,True Democracy,Permanent Federal solution will be the benifit that unite srilanka and all citizens forever.
    ____________________________

    Blake expressed hope that those talks would result in a comprehensive agreement that could help Sri Lanka heal the wounds of war and ensure that all Sri Lankans enjoy equal rights and a future of hope and opportunity.

    ——————-

    Permanent Federal solution will never be a reality in SL.

  260. Navin

    ” Susan Rice is no.2 in state dept.”

    Really ! Are you serious ! Have you fired Deputy Secretaries of State James Steinberg and Jacob J. Lew ?

  261. All the Pandits are keen to blame the government, Mahinda, armed forces and all others who support the government. Why are these people still unable to tell the number of deaths of the LTTE?

    Without telling the killed LTTE terrorists, no point of arguing about 40,000.

    Further this advisory report has no bindings anywhere. This report is “just throwing stones at Honey Nest”. Is Ban Ki Moon expecting a communal riot like the 1983 wich was a joint production of UNP and LTTE?

  262. Here are some excerpts from the daily mirror of thursday 5th may,on Robert blake my current favourite,my thosai,iddli and vadai,and from gota’s recent statements his ambul thiyal too.After getting blake’s secret message he seems to have temporaly lost his thirst for vodka and appetite for friedrice with shezuan garlic prawns.So this is what blakes thinks on the issues

    [Addressing the media during his two-day visit to Sri Lanka, he said the report favoured a political solution that would ‘forge a prosperous, democratic and united Sri Lanka.’

    “Domestic authorities have a responsibility to ensure that those responsible for violations of international humanitarian law are held accountable. International mechanisms can become appropriate in cases where states are unable or unwilling to meet their obligations,” he said.

    “We look first to host governments to take the responsibility for these issues and we hope that they will do so,”

    Certainly my government won’t mourn the passing of Prabhakaran as he was one of the worst terrorist leaders in the world,” he said

    “We hope that the LLRC will also address accountability issues and will offer recommendations on how to redress wrongs committed by both sides during the conflict

    “There is much more to be done on the political side. We hope that the government will give importance to the dialogue that is ongoing now with the TNA

    He mentioned matters such as devolution, information about those who are still in detention, a full accounting of those who had died and land tenure. “We hope there can be a fair arbitration about who really owns these lands.

    He stressed that these issues would remain a high priority for the US government and expressed the hope that concrete progress would be made on them.

    Mr. Blake noted the nearly all of the 300,000 IDPs had been resettled from the camps with the remaining few scheduled to be resettled by the end of 2011, and that de-mining and the reduction of high security zones were some of the areas where significant progress had been made.]

    So what do we glean from all this.

    a)he is clearly tying up the UN advisory panel report to a politicla solution. In otherwords if a politicla solution is given and implemented,the report will be consigned to te scrap heap. Darusman has done a good job and he can go to indonesia and eat nasi goreng for the rest of his life. If mahinda tries to be a prabha and tells blake to mind his own business, then of course darusman will be the most important person in the world who is currently cleaning it of all rodents and pests diligently and should be made the time magazine’s man of the year.

    b)He wants to see what is coming out of the LLRC first,is it egg hopper,a kothu rotti or a beef and steak sandwich.So the LLRC better put out a good dish.

    c)A terrible distaste for prabha.Poor prabha may have not even been aware of it or even if he did coundn’t be bothered because he created a terrible distaste in so many people he lost count,including the most important person of all.Hey i got my suicide bombers ah, have you bloody americans got them too.I can set them loose on you too.let us see whether mahinda is also going the same path. I got my russians and chinese bodyguards ……..

    d)clearly frustrated by the progress of the govt’s dialogue with the TNA. At his meeting with the TNA they would have served him the best vadai,thosai,and iddly that money can buy.And they would not have asked him to pay for it like what anton balasingham and yogi did after taking an indian journalist to a saiva restaurant,getting angry with him for not believing them that prabha had nothing to do with rajiv’s death and leaving the poor fellow to pay the bill.

    e)Blake has clearly listed the issues he is going to keep a tab on and also praised the government on the issues it has taken action.So he is not forgetting what the govt has done so far,implying that he won’t forget in the future too, the good and bad things the govt does.

  263. All I am saying is Sinhalese are like big bullies of Tamils and we Tamils can not tell you go practice your Buddhism since you are all powerful in Sri Lanka. Similarly you can not tell US not to bully the smaller countries. We Tamils have to play by your rule book. in Sri Lanka You are a smaller fish now, so stomach it when US is punching you.I bet you would never want to live in China or Russia and I am so glad you chose to live in Canada where there is democracy.

  264. Dilshan,

    Do you think there would have been significant VP sympathizers if there was prior genuine devolution of power in place? Are you confident that in the next fifty years without meaningful devolution of power there will never be another VP like? Do you really think Sri Lanka could develop into the next wonder of Asia without sharing power? Answer these questions for yourself honestly as a Christian.

  265. Navin

    ” Susan Rice is no.2 in state dept.”

    Cabinet and the state dept. are two different entities. The US representative to the UN being a member of the Cabinet does not make the person No.2 in the State department hierarchy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Deputy_Secretary_of_State

    The Deputy Secretaries of State of the United States are the chief assistants to the Secretary of State. If the Secretary of State resigns or dies, a Deputy Secretary of State becomes Acting Secretary of State until the President nominates and the Senate confirms a replacement.

    Do you get it now, silly moron.

  266. Marcus,
    Batsman given “OUT” & already in the “Pavillion”.

    Its too late to call for “3rd umpire”.

  267. First of all we have investigate following peoples backgrounds.
    Eg- Their Bank Accounts , Properties etc..
    Then we can get clear idea of this report.

    The panel comprises Marzuki Darusman ( Indonesia),
    Yasmin Sooka ( South Africa); and Steven Ratner ( United States).

  268. Pls check bank acc & properties of following peoples.

    The panel comprises Marzuki Darusman ( Indonesia),
    Yasmin Sooka ( South Africa);
    and Steven Ratner ( United States).

  269. shankar says: May 7, 2011 at 12:13 am Robert blake my current favourite,my thosai,iddli and vadai,and from gota’s recent statements his ambul thiyal too……………….

    My dear Shankar,Hope you don’t mind me addressing you in these terms because you enlighten my spirit with some humor. After you said thosai vaddai kotthu roti etc I have lost all senses. By the way the best kotthu I have eaten is from janatha café in Jaffna but this was in 1974 and I don’t know whether those guys still exist. Those days they told me that kotthu was from kerela and the cooks at janatha were keralites!! But god bless them, that kotthu was top class. And I also met Alfie in 1974 and a few months later he was dead!

    I think Blake is doing a tight rope walk. The purpose of his visit was to cool the tempers of GOSL which is pointing out correctly to a US conspiracy. I hear Wimalawansa asked Blake why US thru UN is bombing Libya (a friend of MR) while Syria is allowed to kill civilians with impunity. Gota or GL is supposed to have told W to keep quite but it was a ploy to embarrass Blake. Blake does not want GOSL to swing any more towards China. If I were you I wouldn’t take Blake seriously. Both UN and US cannot touch GOSL as Russia and china supports it with India!! India has little choice.

  270. M.Sivananthan says:
    May 6, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    All the Pandits are keen to blame the government, Mahinda, armed forces and all others who support the government. Why are these people still unable to tell the number of deaths of the LTTE?

    Without telling the killed LTTE terrorists, no point of arguing about 40,000.

    ———
    Is it still not clear?
    Only 40,000 LTTEs were killed in the final battle. Another 15,000 LTTEs were captured and in Jail. Remaining 200,000 LTTE surrendered and kept in IDP.

  271. Is Ban Ki Moon expecting a communal riot like the 1983 wich was a joint production of UNP and LTTE?

    —————————————————-
    I don’t think so.

    besides I think This report is stale news now since Osama’s killing. Only the diaspora are preoccupied with it.

  272. Just to type 2 thoughts of mine that differ from u.

    1. USA will get their bargain whatever the hidden interests which are not voiced to the media. They always do.

    2. a new political leadership should evolve within Sri Lanka sensitive to minorities. If u pin all your hope on TNA to bring about a political solution you are sure end up hopeless. past & present record of TNA is been stooges to LTTE & India, now to the west & tamil diaspora. They will never address the real issues of local tamils /minorities.

    Twisting the arm of the SL government to force a political solution may not be sustainable I’m afraid.

  273. Mr.M.Sivananthan
    All the Pandits are keen to blame the government, Mahinda, armed forces and all others who support the government. Why are these people still unable to tell the number of deaths of the LTTE?
    Without telling the killed LTTE terrorists, no point of arguing about 40,000
    ——————————————————————————————-
    First ask your Government to publish the actual number of death of armed forces(Mangala Samaravera could help you)
    then divided by three, you will have the answer. You don’t need to be pandit for this but you should have mathamatical skill and need to be genuine with reality as well.

    There is a point about 40,000. Do you think UN is stupid than you?Sri Lankan Government records show that, in 2008, 430,000 people were living in the northern area of Sri Lanka most affected by the civil war. After the chaos of the final few months of war,the Government moved civilians into camps – but UN figures mark only 290,000 held there. The whereabouts of the 100,000 or so remaining is unknown. Many people are still searching for their families.(Channel 4 News has also obtained this documents)

    That would be a terrible fact indeed that you not question about what happened to 100,000 unacounted but underestimate
    innocent civilian killed because you pretending that you don’t know ltte deaths.

    You should qution to your government, Mahinda, armed forces what happend to the 100,000 unacounted ?
    Are they summarily executed or illegaly detained some where ??

    In Vanni we say ‘ Nalla Madduku Oru Suudu’

    The fact could be shocking the world when whole truth come out to light.

  274. It will be rality in SL. without Federal solution or Devolution to NE SL where the civil war erupted, SL always
    risk to become success country in the world and will facing many set backs in the future. even hardcore sinhala parties now realised this and supporting federal solution which unite the srilanka. Be proactive.

  275. Your question that proof you not belive SL Government but I belive UN and international community will..

  276. It is the stupid answer not exactly responding Mahesh question. Mahesh you are right.SLGov who membering in UN, shuldn’t kill his own 40,000 civilians. In this case they should allow UN or they have to cancell their membership and ask TGTE to subscribe as UN member. (LTTE is already gone and was not a member of UN)

  277. The same UN is now telling there are war crimes that have happened in the North and East. Then why do you not accept the war crime report of the UN?

  278. If you are not able to answer questions of some body it is always better to avoid that person. Isn’t it better TRN. Go ahead. Jayaweva.

  279. Go read your own comments about the Thai pOngal that you made in this blog.

    Also why are you restricting yourself to the past 30 years only. Why not from 1948. Won’t that be fair enough. Tell me your comments about that if you are sincere and honest.

  280. All the Mahesh points are correct. It is a fact Sinhalese who started the ethinic violance aginst Muslims in 1920’s and then Tamils. This hate was adopted from Bikkus and Mahavamsa.Finaly State Gov and Security forces adopted this hate and involved in violance act against innocent Tamils that feed to blow the 30 years civil war and all atrocities. You should accept this and do the remady for this not hide or blame others.

    As you alianating Mahesh valid points like ‘These Indians …’ you did the same to Srilankan Tamils.
    So, you all proveed VP was right as Hillary Clinton said’ They(LTTE) had wright motive(to create parelel state) but used the wrong tool terrorism to achive their goal may not share the same like Osama or other terrorist’

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W88hMlUmQaE

  281. Honestly Manju,

    I believe in the present system. All tamils and Sinhalese have the same rights. right to vote language education and job prospects. I cannot buy a property in jaffna or Killinochchi or trincomallee without going through the same registration method as in Colombo or anywhere. The same is for tamils and muslims. There are issues such as tamil speaking police for tamil speaking area and I agree with that. All people can vote disgraceful corrupt politicians to every public office and it is done so by TNA, TULF, Muclim Congress, UNP and PA. These corrupt political parties get together and get lucrative ministries for fatter personal pockets.

    Devolution of power is a ‘War Slogan’ for bankrupt Tamil politicians who reside in Colombo and send their children to colombo schools and international schools. Without this war slogans they cannot get the ‘Tamil Nationalist’ vote they require to fatten their pockets more.

    There are enough and more successful Tamil scholars, businessmen and who have worked within the system and prospered. They do not have your narrow mind. They think of all Srilankans as Sri Lankans and not by the language they speak.

    I have asked this question before and I ask now: by the way no one answered before so perhaps you would be the one.

    What is it that Tamils in Sri Lanka dont have that other Sri Lankan communities have.

  282. Can you explain how the UNSG’s advisory panel report would lead to a political solution in Sri Lanka?

  283. Joseph,

    Dumb retard Mahinda never cared about Tamils then and now he is in a soup! Retards never care.

  284. dear ranjan,
    unfortunately i am duty bound to reply even though you have decided not to read my comments.comparing vp with bin laden is not going to get srilanka anything tangible.but since i would like to join issue with you both vp and obl were products of their nemesis.but there ends their similarity.obl believed in violent resurrection and he never believed in nation state rather his ideology was pan geographic which adhered to a religious belief.america and its leaders never talked to al qaida,nor did their leaders bribed obl to get elected and al qaida never enjoyed any public support which can be vouched from the fact that arab states are witnessing demonstrations rather than violent insurrections.vp believed in a nation state which was underpinned by a linguistic nationalism which transcended religious barriers.sinhalese politicians used vp whenever it suited them premadasa during ipkf operatioins and rajapakshe during 2005 elections.if sinhalese nation had given an opportunity to tamil masses an alternative i guess vp and his gang would have died a natural death.sinhala society promised but never kept its word and still it is dilly dallying when it comes to political solution to tamils hence sinhalese society if it thinks that it can draw parallels between vp and obl is akin to refusing to accept the reality.sinhalese society has to first accept that it committed a historic injustice after independence.it has to find a political solution to tamil problem then only it can solve the problem that srilanka faces.

  285. Dilshan,

    You are either in denial with your soul or totally oblivious to the root causes of Tamils taking to arms in the 1970’s. I had to score 3A’s and 1 B to gain entrance to med school during my time and there were many students in my class scoring 2A’S and 2C’s who never saw the end of the tunnel.They were not even selected to a general degree.At med school, I met many students from Royal College, Colombo gaining entrance with 3C’s and 1S.Go read about Standardization. It is still extremely difficult if not impossible for Tamils to be recruited by government corporations.

    What is preventing you from buying property in Jaffna? Tamils and Sinhalese move to Colombo on their own accord for economic reasons especially for gainful employment. The Sinhalese have no reason to move to North and East areas which are economically deprived. Of course the government is trying to actively colonize North and East to restructure the demographics for political reasons which should not be too hard to figure out.

  286. Without force nothing is happening in srilanka, last 50 years not enough for political soltuion?
    Mahinda said 3 times he ready to go beyond the 13th amendment for political solution, This is the right time to show that in action.
    TNA is a right party that reperesenting Local Tamils democraticaly. why you hesitate to good solution and twisting the hand from India,Ltte to West and Diaspora??

  287. Anonymous says: May 6, 2011 at 6:02 pm The following comment from one Mr Somasunderam must be the best analysis of the current socio political situation in Srilanka. It is the best foundation to formulate a new future for the Tamil people living there. 
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    Very true. This comment puts things in practical perspective. If hard line tamils can understand this comment, they are on the road to best outcomes. Successful tamils of SL have understood this long time back and effectively used this philosophy to be what they are now.

  288. I meant give a true political solution and say past is past. Today is a new day. Let us make a new beginning. Forgive, Forget and Forge ahead should be the slogan for the island. The history of the island belongs equally to the Tamils and the Sinhalese and various ethnic groups.

    The majority should accept it and treat with respect and equality other ethnic groups.

    If you do these things it will take the sting out of the UN report.

    I doubt whether MR will do it without any encouragement in the form of the carrot and stick approach. Let us wait and see what happens.

  289. I am sure u r a ex Sri lankan tamil now a part of the diaspora not living in SL.

    What I don’t like is to give what the daispora want.

    The problem is largely with in the teritories of SL. TNA politicians are playing to the tune of Diaspora in the west & to india.

    That’s why u people try to twist the arm of the SL government as u do not have any other option.

    Most of your voices are not Sri Lankan voices.

  290. Gordon Weiss was the person raised this “40,000”. He was dismissed by his employer, the UN for telling lies about the casuality figures. But the people appointed by Moon used the same “WRONG” number.

    According to the LTTE, none of their members were killed! Who will believe it?

  291. The Tamils in Sri Lanka are denied of their history in their island. That is the basic one. Apart from this you are asking a classical question which every Sinhalese is capable of asking…that is denying any problem.

    I will ask you one counter question. Why did the tamils take up to arms and this civil war for so long which drained your island.

    Do you mean to say that the Tamils had no reason to take up the arms.

    In other words do you mean to say that they are blood thirsty people. Remember the Tamils living across the palk strait are calm and peace loving people. How come their brethren in the other side of the palk strait have become violent.

    You answer these questions.

    And also answer why the BC and the DC pact had been abrogated and why no political solution is given to the Tamils even after all these destruction.

  292. M.Sivananthan says:
    May 8, 2011 at 2:43 am
    Gordon Weiss was the person raised this “40,000″. He was dismissed by his employer, the UN for telling lies about the casuality figures. But the people appointed by Moon used the same “WRONG” number.

    According to the LTTE, none of their members were killed! Who will believe it?

    ————-

    Gordon Weiss will believe it.
    Others are non believers. Even if dead come down from sky to testify, they would not believe it.

  293. when he was dismissed by his employer, the UN for telling lies about the casuality figures?
    Submit your prove? why the same employer now accepting the same figures ??

    http://www.gordonweissauthor.com/

    what about 100,000 unaccounted???

    According to which LTTE? who will belive your comment? You are the big liar!

    In Vanni we say ‘ Nalla Madduku Oru Suudu’.

  294. This is not strickly falls under the topic of this article, but is very relavant to current Sri Lanka.

    The title is ‘Murali is not a Tamil”

    The author Michael Roberts is a very knowledgable write on Tamil – Sinhalese issues.

    “Murali is not a Tamil. We do not consider him a Tamil,” proclaimed
    Dr. Bālachandran as an unsolicited intervention during a conversation
    at the England versus Sri Lankacricket match at the Premadasa Stadium
    on 29 March 2011. Let me clarify this episode and its context before
    elaborating on the historical background that has spawned such an
    outrageous perspective; and then moving on to critical commentary.

    http://thuppahi.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/%E2%80%9Cmurali-is-not-a-tamil%E2%80%9D-says-a-tamil-doctor-during-a-world-cup-encounter/

  295. TNA politicians not playing any one tune but for their own people who clearly given the mandate
    from 1977 to till, Yes there is a option to call for refurandum to know the voices within Tamil teritories of SL. NE Srilankans should decide their future not any other outsiders.are you ready for that?

    I am the proactive SL but my land and house still occupied by Army unlawfully.how you hear our NE srilnkans voices still your war criminal occuping army sit on our faces??

  296. Solidarity says:
    May 7, 2011 at 7:52 am

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    You must be Polish from Poland I wonder? Whole world is interested in cleaning the Sri Lankan shit. We don’t need coolies now.

  297. Dear Manju,

    The selection process for ALL in this country is still valid. I endorse it. yes it will give my child less chance of entering University from Colombo, But it still gives a chance to others from Kilinochchi or Vavuniya.
    But you are lying. Royal college cannot send any student with 3Cs and 1S. What you are saying is such a fundamental lie, that prove to me that any student from Royal college entered Med School with 3C and 1S. It is lies that people like you spread that I dont believe in your asking for a federal solution. Any child from Colombo DISTRICT or Jaffna DISTRICT WIll have to obtain 3A and 1B to enter med school. There is NO racial bias in selection to Uni here. Just either you come from an area which is having excellent schools with a better level of education or not. Have a look at children from all races entering from difficult area from this selection process.

    Your second para just endorses what I said: Do you have a difference in buying land in any part of this country??? – So why do you want self rule? for what?

    With reference to Jobs – go to the Eastern and North Area and see whether people in jobs are muslims or singhalese.

    You never answered my question let me repeat this:

    What is it that Tamils in Sri Lanka dont have that other Sri Lankan communities have.

    This time Dont lie in a way that you can get caught.

  298. it has to find a political solution to tamil problem then only it can solve the problem that srilanka faces.

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    I just can’t respond to the loads of bullshit u have typed. However the answer to your pleadings are simple. All Sri Lankans are facing a problem of injustice at all levels. We need the law & order, good governance back in place after decades of civil war. What ever happened in the past should not be repeated.

    What the majority of Sri Lankans including most of the minority communities want today is equal rights. We need to protect our free education (which is up to university level), our free health care system which is the best in the SARRC/SEA region.

    What we Sri Lankans thrive is to preserve what it had in the past( pre war ) the rich cultural diversity, the tolerance, the harmony with the environment and lots more.

    Few extremists politicians and terror groups destoryed the values of this country and its serenity and its people.

    U all non Sri Lankans are been mislead by LTTE /pro LTTe propaganda and keep accusing the mahavamsa & sinhalese only. While the duplicity on the side of the tamils are been conveniently forgotten.

    We agree that a political solution is been dragged too long… but there are genuine reasons for this.
    What you people think is right, is not the best suited for all of us Sri Lankans.

    So leave us to solve our problems. There was a unified moderate voice evolving within post war Sri Lanka. However this UN report had completely turned the tables up side down, the hard cores are on top again.

    Unless the majority’s attitude change and they become sensitive towards the issues there won’t be a sustainable solution.

    What we went through during 25yrs or more and how the war affected the core values of the society is beyond ones imagination. There’s no idealistic solution, it is accepting your fellow human being be it sinhala/tamil/moslem/malay/burger and any other as equal citizen of this country.

    however sliniging mud at GoSL & sinhalese will not bring about a solution. As there is blood on the hand of tamils too.

    What I personally do not want to see history repeating again… 50years ago then tamil political leaders promoted federalism… and see what the out come was. They even lost their language rights. I’m not saying that what was done was right.
    The mentality for 50 years had become hardened during the civil war. This has to be melted by taking a step forward accepting the fault/ mistakes done by the past leaders. Then reach out to the other party.

    What is happening today both sides are in their former sides not stepping an inch out of the line and even running further from each other.

    The core issues I see are:
    * the immature/hardcore leadership of both sides.
    *The silence of the righteous men/women at the hour of need.
    *Self censorship of the moderate unbiased media personnel.

    I think Mr.Vasudeva Nanayakkara is an example, who is yet bold to voice his moderate opinion in the midst of hardcores. Will he become a loner?

  299. Dear Manju, here is a bit of text from

    http://countrystudies.us/sri-lanka/71.htm

    ‘Until 1970 university admissions were determined solely by academic qualifications. Because of the generally higher educational standards of Tamils, their percentage of university enrollments substantially exceeded their percentage of the general population. In 1969 for example, 50 percent of the students in the country’s faculties of medicine and 48 percent of all engineering students were Tamil. During the 1970s, however, the government implemented a preferential admissions system known as the “policy of standardization.” This was a geographically based criterion, but because the two ethnic communities tended to be regionally segregated, such a policy increased Sinhalese enrollments. The scheme established quotas for 70 percent of university places on the basis of revenue districts; this included a special allotment of 15 percent of all openings reserved for educationally underprivileged districts, which were predominantly Sinhalese. Only 30 percent of openings were allotted nationwide on merit considerations alone. By the early 1980s, the policy had proven a statistical success: in 1983 only 22 percent of medical students and 28 percent of engineering students were Tamils.

    As you can see from the above who was marginalized.? 50% of medicine and 48% of engineering was secured by the Tamils. Free Education paid for by 100% of Sri Lanka people. from taxpayers money. paid by Sinhala Farmers, teachers and the rest of the country. If Education was a not free I would not have endorsed the standardization. If anything free is given by the state it should not favour any RACE!!! for the state is funded not by one race but by all its citizens.

  300. dear M.Sivananthan ,
    May 8, 2011 at 2:43 am.

    Don’t try to defend the government on these numbers. The government will have to defend themselves. If there is a government document they will have to prove its authenticity. Also the GOSL’s previous claim of 70,000 civilians also was a lie if there was a government document prior to this.

    Let the government sort their documents and prove the inauthenticity. These are simple sums to calculate. The government should know the truth and come out with it and prove their point.

  301. Hmm… I thought the tamils were pro active 50years ago about federalism !! U know the out come. Are we on the reverse gear again !!

    give me something fresh than federalism and separate tamil state.

    Get out of the old shit and think a new mate!!

  302. .Sivananthan says:

    May 8, 2011 at 2:43 am

    Gordon Weiss was the person raised this “40,000″. He was dismissed by his employer, the UN for telling lies about the casuality figure
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    Now you are the one telling lies here.You know very well that he resigned from the UN when his work visa in srilanka was over.As for the 40000 you seem to be obsessed with why don’t you tell your pals in the government to just disprove it. After all the onus is on them to disprove don’t you think, since they are the ones who created the news blackout in the first place.

  303. If you don’t want one susessful, peacefull Srilanka empowered by Sinhalese and Tamils keep opposing the
    political solution U people never learn any lesson from the past.All this commision and promises for
    cheating the world and tamils. Finaly you will cheat yourself like this UN report.

  304. Realistically no Sri Lankan Government has yet been able to make the mildest form conciliatory effort towards Tamils and survive in power.There will be rowdy demonstrations and protests on the streets if not another pogrom. Therefore as a face saving measure to our current incumbent government an equitable settlement to our ethnic conflict has to be enforced upon Tamils as well as Sinhalese by an international body. If not the current impasse would be continue.

  305. Reason for this outcome Power hungry sinhalese politician were not proactive
    last 50 years about federalism!!!

    No Tamilstate , No Federalism , No investigation for over 40,000 Tamil civilians killed ??
    So what new shit you can think through duplicity of SL democracy mate???

    Yes you are on the staring postion and about to go reverse gear again!!!

  306. My dear Mahesh.

    Before I answer any question of yours which dwell in the past ‘Why did this happen’ you need to answer what do you guys dont have that other ethnicites have.

    You have answered that the tamils have been denied their history in their island.

    To answer your question why did the tamils take up arms. Well the tamils didnt the LTTE did. So did JVP the problem is that you guys think that all tamils endorse the actions of the LTTE.

    With regards to BC pact and DC pact I dont believe in any pacts that give a certain section of a society rights that are not available to others. There are BC pacts between the blacks and the whites in USA or between the Blacks and the Whites in South Africa now.

    The constitution must guarantee equal rights for all citizens.

  307. KaripaddaMurippan says:

    May 7, 2011 at 6:07 am
    Sri Lankan Government records show that, in 2008, 430,000 people were living in the northern area of Sri Lanka most affected by the civil war. After the chaos of the final few months of war,the Government moved civilians into camps – but UN figures mark only 290,000 held there. The whereabouts of the 100,000 or so remaining is unknown. Many people are still searching for their families.
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    That is a interesting point you have raised,but we have to analyse it first without jumping to hasty conclusions.When you say that srilankan records show 430000, how accurate are those records.Was a census taken in 2008 or was it from an earlier census?If it was earlier one then people could have migrated abroad or to other parts of srilanka and the records would not have been updated.For example the elections commission is now saying that in the jaffna district instead of 800000 on record,there is only 400000.Canada has already got their first tamil MP.This would not have happenned if srilanka had not had emigration of tamils.Obviously there would be at least one less tamil MPs in srilanka in the future.So this is how the worlds population evolved with people migrating for the last 2000 years. We are all just a part of this normal cycle.You cannot jump to conclusions that people are dead because records are not updated regularly in third world countries.However some of them may have been killed because of the horrible environment we have had in those areas.

    You are spoiling the day for sivananthan. He is getting fresh tea staight from the tea bushes and while admiring the beautiful hills and salubrious climate,sipping his tea and typing away,nostalgic for the vanni which he deserted long ago due to caste friction. He is already jumping up and down like suffering from piles because of this 40000 figure and now you are making it 140000.Do you want him to die of an apoleptic fit?

  308. Ranjan,

    I am not sure why you are making a mountain out of a molehill. What relevance does Dr.Balchandran’s comment have on the peace talks? By the way, you would benefit immensely learning to focus on the broader issues in your personal life as well as world at large.Good luck.

  309. Dear Dilshan,

    Lying? Suspicion looms in your mind! And also you do not believe that those who scored 2A’S and 2C’ from my class were not selected to a general science degree, right? I can understand why you could not believe that entering from Royal with 3C’S and 1 C which was outrageously unfair.

    Did I ever say that I personally want self rule? Majority of Tamils want to live amicably with equal rights with Sinhalese. That is not requiring higher grades to enter varsity or restrictions on job opportunities at government held corporations. Most of us are okay living side by side with Sinhalese if you. Anyway you are hard in your mindset and it is impossible to show evidence in a forum like this.

  310. Dear Dilshan,

    Standardization was so fundamentally wrong, it was the single most reason which coalesced school aged Tamil youth with Prabakaran.I am one hundred percent convinced that if smart statisticians of that time had found another equitable method, Tamil youth wouldn’t ever joined terrorist movements. With one misstep the government of that time dashed the hopes and aspirations of able and well deserving students that I know of. I think instead of Standardization, they could have opened up more universities and eliminated decades of civil war.

  311. Shankar:
    I live in Canada and not in the area you specify!Tamil imagination is funny!

    Government or LTTE dont have the right numbers. 2011 is the census year. Let the government tell about the missing or dead.

    LTTE supporters tell lies as usual. Why cannot the Tamil Champions from Fr. Emmanuel to Rudrakumaran tell the exact casulity figures of LTTE if they are really honest in their barkings? Are these people thinking that UN will send US Army to arrest Mahinda? I hope the Tamil cinema corrupt their minds!

    Diaspora Paper Tigers have learned the art of CHEATING for their own profits!

  312. ProactiveSL says:
    May 8, 2011 at 8:08 am
    TUN says:
    May 8, 2011 at 1:40 pm
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    both are pro active throwing gal, mul and shit…yes then will end up with a gun as usual. of course v r in reverse gear !!

  313. The relevance is that Dr. Balachandran’s comment reflects the sad reality of how Jaffna Tamils regard the up-country or Indian Tamils. Now we all know that is something that the Jaffna Tamils will do whatever to hide from the rest of the world because they want to present the situation in Sri Lanka of one that a majority community totally supressing the minority. The true fact as are that there is a subtext that is kept hidden – the almost apratheid like supression of the low casts by the high casts Hindus of Jaffna which was one of the contributing factors to the current situation.

  314. ProactiveSL says:
    May 8, 2011 at 8:08 am
    I am the proactive SL but my land and house still occupied by Army unlawfully.how you hear our NE srilnkans voices still your war criminal occuping army sit on our faces??
    ___________________________________
    i am sorry to hear this. Yes this should not be done. These houses should be vacated or get to a lease or hire or some lawful mean. Why not raise these issues individually without asking for a political solution…. The former will come easily than the latter. Not that I am against a political solution… but the way we are approaching is not very healthy.

  315. ProactiveSL says:
    May 8, 2011 at 8:08 am

    NE Srilankans should decide their future not any other outsiders.are you ready for that?
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    Please understand N&E is part of SL and what happens there will affect the other parts too. who are in Sl are Sri Lankans. who are non Sri Lankans are outsiders. What u think is right may not be the best for all of us.

  316. TUN says:
    May 8, 2011 at 1:40 pm
    If you don’t want one susessful, peacefull Srilanka empowered by Sinhalese and Tamils keep opposing the
    political solution U people never learn any lesson from the past.All this commision and promises for
    cheating the world and tamils. Finaly you will cheat yourself like this UN report.

    Reply to this comment
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    I just came from KILLINICHCHIE for abusiness purpose. In order to improve their day to day life, the People in these area request more economic and infracture facilities. Not a single person concern about so called political solution as over seas tamil mensioned.

    What I realised is majeroty of Killinochchie tamils differenciate with Jaffna and eastern tamils. Most of them are victimised from year 83 civil riots. Therefore at that time they got biggest angry about sinhala people. That’s why til the ultimatium they retained with LTTE. Untill LTTE stating to shoot at them they thought the LTTE is their survior . Finallt they realised the actual surviors are sri lanka army who prevented them from LTTE shooting. Now they are relised that they make a mistake.

    What is another iteresting revealed point is who were the benifisherees of past strugle. It was Jafna tamils. Insted of participated with the strugle what they did? They managed to sent youngers to uk,canada, usa and ect. Now these migrated people are asking federal solution.

    Please be good to be stay as you be there and die there.

    We do not need you. we are suffisicent enough to provide the facilities which ask in Kilinochchie brothers.

    Talking the political solution is useless point.

  317. I agree with you. Not only the civilians the Budhist monks will also take up to streets like rowdies. They will do anything to scuttle any peaceful settlement.

  318. Forget about Murali. Murali is a Tamil. May be Balachandran is wrong.

    Why not talk about DD, Karuna, etc.

    Can these people be considered as Tamils and as an icon for the Tamils to follow.

  319. It is useless talking with you who will not stand by any word, written or spoken. You only display the majority mentality and you talk the side of the Sinhalese. You make it appear as though you are neutral in your views, which you are not.

    If those accords were not necessary why then they were entered into?

    The abrogation of those treaties should have in any way helped the island.

    Which is not.

    May be the implementation of the accords would have improved the relationship between the communities.

  320. as UN is an inter state body involved in this accountability issue, searching for other options are waste of time
    An Eelam citizen

  321. Dear dilshanf

    Refer: your comment (May 2, 2011)

    This response is late, could not find time to a keyboard, and thought this topic might have come to an end. I also read your comments with a great deal of interest, as they are of high standard.

    I did not think you expected my answers for those questions literally, but believe you raised them to provoke some thoughts to every one who reads. Unfortunately I do not think I knew enough about aq’s narrative or what OBL is about, hence I do not want to charter into unknown territory. Noting the ranking you indicated (No 01 and No 2), I am sure you know much, definitely more than I do. So, allow me to leave it at that

    The points that I tried to put out were:
    • That this report and all the pressure comes with it were, I guess, the result of the fact that GoSL has gone back on the words that it said before or at the time of the war re a political package.
    • To put out this fire, GoSL should pursue some meaningful measures in earnest following a cooperative instead of adversarial approach.
    • Some of the evidences floating around in some links that I saw are compelling, and may complement the report findings.
    • If GoSL believes in a solution, and it has had one, just work on right now and be in control of our own affairs rather than being too late and told by others. Such moves would alienate hardcores and critics.
    • Talking about who did what or who caused more loss of lives is waste of time; and just missing the golden opportunity (have been accusing of LTTE as a hindrance for peace deals) yet once more.
    • Ridiculing UN/SG/Panel is not a good thing to do; rather a measured approach is wiser. Criticising would mean setting GoSL up for big time against IC, which is not in the best interest of SL.
    • It is a very detailed report even gone on to suggest how well the money which LTTE has now could be spent humanely- we have not heard this kind of advice from our leaders, they were all muted.

    These were my general observations; not intended to upset anyone, but to look at the situation in a neutral perspective. This tit-for-tat kind of approach would take us nowhere.

    I acknowledge that you are perfectly entitled to your views, and I respect that. Hope a permanent peace will prevail in the end in SL, and that will be soon.

  322. Before that please check these clips.
    We can somewhat accept casualty figures during war.
    But the record number of civilians?
    Even the surrendees were killed in inhuman ways after unthinkable torture
    for many hours and days. Definitely someone highup would be aware of it.

    WARNING:NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN,WEAK HEARTS & SL REGIME

    http://uyarvu.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9511%3A2011-05-08-08-36-59&catid=47%3Abreaking-news-top&Itemid=67

    http://www.tamilthai.com/?p=16461

  323. The UN will give one of two opions to Mahinda:

    1)Face war criminal charges or
    2)an expedited power devolution and sharing with Tamils.

    Mahinda will of course choose the second option. He will silence the Sinhalese Majority with thuggary and would still win the next elections one way or other.

    Tamil Diaspora would welcome this move.

  324. Then why did you killed over 40,000 your kilinochchie brothers & sisters wathsala? (100% True,it will be proved ,write it down some where)You bombed on our daily life, economic and infracture and now droping crocodile tear and dividing Tamils as they only want ‘Bread and katta sampol’ not poltical solution which root cause for 30years civil war. who you are to say “Not a single person concern about so called political solution as over seas tamil mensioned?” we clearly now what “development” and “help” you are doing to Tamils in vanni.

    Please do the business in your local market not in kilinochi market. This is strictly not for your business purpose.

    P.S- Apply this to your self;

    Please be good to be stay as you be there and die there. We do not need you.

  325. Like this there is many copelex problem Tamil facing by occuping Army which even can’t discripe here. If you are experience this as Tamil then you will say ‘Yes ,this Army should withraw from NE.’
    There is no posibility to raise this issues individually or get justice from sinhalese,This only
    make locals more vulnerable.

    Decent political solution promote Tamil authority to empower locals as proud citizens and they will
    open up their issues without any fear. Then solution,reconcilation,peace, economic development all
    will be posible and will be more efective than now.

    Good to know that you are not against a political solution…but have to put this in very healthy way!

  326. You can’t say daispora as outsiders. They are the only NE Tamils living in democratic countries
    where they can voice without any fear and violant operession.

    If you give the same democratic enviorment then you can hear NE voices what is best for them.

    They don’t like Sinhalese occuping Army,State sponser Sinhalese colanisation and ‘Sinhal rule’

    For them all above are outsiders and they don’t like this outsiders decide their life and future.

    This is Very True that you have to clearly understand.

  327. who is throwing gal, mul and shit…. against UN report that honestly speaking justice for over 40,000 killed and plight of poor victims??

    Thanks to you for accepting ‘v r in reverse gear !!’ but please do something as proactive before endup in gun as usual!!!

  328. Yes, lets talk about Karuna. He was a hero to Tamils when he was VP,s second in command. There is ample evidence to suggest that he was directly involved in the killings of the 600 Sir Lankan police officers who were ordered to surrender to the LTTE by then government. That was then. When he participated in the “so called” peace negotiations with the government. No one, not the western governments who sponsored the peace talks or the International human rights industry that is now screaming for GOSL leaders head had anything to say about him. Wonder why? is it that Sri Lankan police officers lives were of no value or is it that practical realities dictated that despite the murder that he is, he should be tolerated as part of the Tiger delegation. GOSL and Sinhalese while holding their noses decided that there is a greater good that could come about by talking to him and the other bunch of murderers. Then known recruiters of child solders, killers of children and countless non-combatants were allowed to take part in negotiations, allowed to travel all over the world without any fear of persecution by UN or any other body.

    Now that Karuna has been turned, all of a sudden IC and the human rights bunch suddenly have remembers how bad he has been. Now he is somebody that needs to be persecuted, put in jail or even worse. It seems almost as if some lives are more valuable than others here.

  329. wathsala says:

    May 9, 2011 at 9:21 am

    I just came from KILLINICHCHIE for abusiness purpose. In order to improve their day to day life, the People in these area request more economic and infracture facilities. Not a single person concern about so called political solution as over seas tamil mensioned.

    We do not need you. we are suffisicent enough to provide the facilities which ask in Kilinochchie brothers.

    Talking the political solution is useless point.

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    Economic and infrastructure needs are short term. People need that to live comfortably for the present. Political solution is medium to longterm needs. They need that to live in dignity.Hardliners who try to deny the tamils of a political solution are trying to keep them subjugated as minorities under their thumb forever. They are trying their best to butter them up with some goodies like dealing with a child.You can forget about a united country with that mentality.

    People in kilinochi won’t talk to you about a political solution.How can they,when srilanka is fast going on the road towards a police state. Even sinhalese who talk of a political solution could get assaulted and jailed in the future, unless this regime comes down to earth and starts respecting human rights.Hope sanity prevails at least now after the UN advisory panel report and they stop going in the ghaddhafi path anymore.This is exactly what happened to prabhaharan when he lost his head completely and instead of listening to people,sent his goons to hammer and kill them to shut their mouth. I expect mahinda who is a educated lawyer to have more brains than prabha and you.

    TNA is representing the tamils in killinochi,not you. So you continue to just buy vegetables in the kilinochi market and cook them,because that is what you are most suited for. Let others handle what is best for the country.During sirimavo’s time also dimwitted characters like you came out exuberently shouting “apey anduwa,apey anduwa”.From that time to now their asses are getting pasted by the muslims in the middleast.Though their sisters and mothers and aunts come back walking bandylegged or in bodybags,some more keep on going to get their asses pasted,because they have not much choice here.So instead of worrying about the kilinochians who have their MP’s to take care of them, you start worrrying about your sisters who have to stay inside an apartment for years doing menial work and not seeing their families,not being paid their wages, even if paid husbands back in srilanka drinking and gambling with it and having incest with their daughters,passports with employers and unable to leave and as an added bonus being sodomized by the entire males in the family every day.So this is the result of your ‘apey anduwa” and now you are starting all over again and not allowing the educated people in the country and outside to fix the problems and put it on the path of progress.Your inferiority complex can be seen a mile away.Tamils also started “engal nadu”with the uneducated mob taking control and landed in all the shit.At least now let people realise where their limitations lie, we cannot allow ‘maadus’ and ‘munharakas’ to start directing the country again.

    Just like you say you do not need the educated people abroad they don’t need you too. You have had your day since independence and the result is plain to see.Because of idiots like you many of us have had to go abroad.Don’t think that just because you did not get the opportunity to get out of that hellhole your mob with the limited IQ created,we love our country less than you.Now we see an opportunity to direct this country towards first world status now that the morons have got a battering, and hopefully one day we can come back and rest our old bones in the land we were born and bred and enjoy the same comforts we are used to here.We don’t want to come back with money and enjoy comforts while sorrounded by a sea of poverty and enduring jealosy and hostility.We want srilanka to join the developed world just like what we are in at the moment.Just because you are there and we are here because of your types,does not make us any less srilankan than you.

    Your types have had your day and put a lot of shit all over the country.At least now give us a chance to do something worthwile.

  330. Tamil diaspora is acting like the champions of Tamil cause. In fact these Tamil Diaspora guys have no moral rights to speak about Tamils living in Srilanka. These opportunists have left the country while brave Tamils stayed at home and fought for what they believed for. The reality is that Tamils in Srilanka are looking after by the government in the same way as other communities. We should note that Srilanka is not a wealthy country and therefore government cannot provide same standard of living as in the case of western countries. Now it is the time for the Tamil Diaspora to support the government for the well being of Tamils living in Srilanka.

  331. From when have you started to like the Karuna, who killed 600 policemen. He was one of the devils of the LTTE and he had recruited scores of children into the LTTE. He participated in the Jayasikuru against the SLA and was also one of the person who gave lot of trouble to the Army.

    Just because he turned coat and he spilled the beans of his former boss and mentor you like him.

    How can a turn coat be a leader for the Tamils.

    He cannot be a model for others. If he were to be the model for the Tamils then the Ettappan must be an ideal for the Tamils here in the Main land.

    Why don’t you talk about that rowdy, goon, the murderer…that DD.

    Why are you not talking about him.

  332. Kumar,

    You can threaten and intimidate Tamils in Sri Lanka but you can not suppress the Tamil Diaspora. We are on a mission to bring peace and harmony to Sri Lanka. Mahinda will soon cave in to choose the peace option to save his own life.

  333. Here is further proof of how the tamil diaspora are damaging the country irevocably with their conspiracies hatched abroad.An excerpt from an article in the island of may 10th.

    [With US$ 800 million yet to be paid to several foreign banks, the Mahinda Rajapaksa regime was trying to pass the buck by claiming that the infamous oil hedging deal was decided on by a few, including a past cricketer, the UNP said yesterday.

    Media spokesman of the UNP Gayantha Karunathillake, addressing a press conference in Colombo, said that the government has already paid out US$ 120 million and was yet to settle an outstanding amount of US$ 800 million, as a result of the ill conceived agreement.]

    This is what happens when yu have ‘gonas’ making decisions for the country,instead of peacefully eating the grass.The ‘gonas’ are telling don’t come back to the herdsmen,die where you are abroad,we can not only eat the grass,we can also use the dung to build the country.

  334. One statement in the response is that the ” Srilankans have put a lot of shit over the country”.?

    Srilanka has the cleanest cities in the South Asian region at present.

    It is well ahead of the Tamil nation of “Tamil Nadu” where Mahesh has settled.

    It appears that Tamil Nadu has got its priorities right for Mahesh to endorse this response as good,

    Tamil Naduans who the Diaspora Tamils idolize are well behind the eight ball in terms of Economic matters and Infrastructure.

    They are perpetually ruled by corrupted to the bone geriatrics who feed them pills of “bull dust” at al lelections.

    They have the worst poverty in the region

    Even our Northern brothers and sisters who were kept captive by the LTTE for two years don’t have such poor living standards .

    May be “political” solution has made these people happy to tolerate and live in in this abject poverty.

    Srilankan Tamils I don’t think are that “dumb witted” to borrow from the response.

    These people who enjoyed even higher standard of living than the majority Sinhalese were left in this povery by their “Liberators”.

    They won’t be that silly to get the same from the TNA , who betrayed them for three decades to please the LTTE and the Diaspora.

    At the current pace , these industrious,hard working farmers, fisher folk and small business men will soon catch up with the rest. .

    Give Srilanka another five years and Tamil Naduans even will be lining up to visit us the same way as their Northern neghbors do at the moment.

    That is of course if the political leaders there, work to alleviate poverty.

  335. Slogans are good to have,but in the end i think the proof is in the pudding,and the pudding is a political solution.It is impossible to continue to deal with people who are not fairminded in their attitude. They will have a problem with ruling themselves,let alone others. Trouble from the muslims will be another one down the road when they have sufficient numbers and full backing from their brothers abroad.The burgers got out of the country when they found that merit was a thing of the past.The tamils were next to go in large numbers.If you are not fair,you can’t rule others,simple as that.All great rulers who have sucessfully ruled other people than theirs have one thing in common which is fairplay, dutugemunu and akbhar the great come to mind.

  336. census which conducted in may 2008

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    If it says a census it is completely wrong. May 2008 was during the war and no census was conducted in N&E since 1980s.
    This is completely a misleading news and propaganda.

  337. So this proves that diaspora tamils are the TNA supporters. As I have told earlier.
    If u have left this land leave it completely…
    also please do get over your bitterness and revengeful feelings. Its good for your heart and the people around you too.

  338. TUN says:
    May 9, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    please do something as proactive before endup in gun as usual!!!

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    Please ending up in gun is your choice! don’t blame others for your choices.

  339. ProactiveSL says:
    May 9, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    occuping Army

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    Now this is a pro-LTTE vocabulary. It is the SL army. Sri Lanka is a sovereign country. You should first wake up to the reality.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>……………….

    There is no posibility to raise this issues individually or get justice from sinhalese,This only
    make locals more vulnerable.

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    How can u say this without even trying? Have u been to Sri Lanka after the war? Do you know the HZS are been slowly cleared . It was a FR case put in 2003 that settled recently but still ongoing. The path that will lead to your liberty is narrow and long. I will give the link to this.
    http://print.dailymirror.lk/news/front-page-news/43361.html
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Three Grama Sevaka Divisions in the Palaly High Security Zone of the Valigamam North had been released for resettlement after complete de-mining, the Attorney General told the Supreme Court.

    Deputy Solicitor General Shavindra Fernando representing the Attorney General also informed the Court that arrangements were being made to release certain parts of Tellipalai, Maviddapuram and Keerimalai areas as soon as the mine clearing process had been completed. The expected time to complete the de-mining activities is by the 2nd week of May this year. He informed these details when two Fundamental Rights petitions came up before the Bench comprising Justices Shiranee Tilakawardane and Saleem Marsoof.

    Deputy Solicitor General gave an undertaking to Court that he would supervise this matter and eventually see to release of the other divisions which were included in this case to be released in gradual states after de-mining has been completed.

    The Court noted that Deputy Solicitor General produced a letter dated April 12 sent by the District Rehabilitation and Reconstruction Secretariat, Jaffna through the Government Agent/District Secretary of Jaffna informing Court about the number of families to be resettled.

    Court noted with pleasure that the Attorney General had taken supervisory steps to expedite certain issues in the case as undertaken by him. The matter was listed to be mentioned on July 25.

    Deputy Solicitor General Shavindra Fernando had earlier submitted that the re-settlement was taking place in the entire Jaffna district.

    Counsel M.A.Sumanthiran with V.S.Ganeshalingam instructed by Mohan Balendra appeared for the Petitioner Mavai Senathirajah MP, and two others in the petitions filed in 2003 while Appathurai Vinayagamoorthy appeared

  340. ProactiveSL says:
    May 9, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    Good to know that you are not against a political solution…but have to put this in very healthy way!

    ___________________________
    Of course majority of Sri Lankans are looking forward to equality, good governance & law & order. Isn’t that what the N&E want too?

    Yes of course we don’t want the unhealthy 30years been repeated again. U r gone but v r here in Sri Lanka – that’s the difference !! Please understand the Sri Lankan mindset. Stop hounding and barking from overseas as you know everything under the sun in Sri Lanka.

  341. Now it is the time for the Tamil Diaspora to support the government for the well being of Tamils living in Srilanka.
    ________________________________

    The once who are supporting are doing so silently. I know many do.

    ones who supported the LTTE are voiceferous about justice. But what they really mean is revenge. Their favorite pastime is slinging mud at sinhalese and GOSL.

    these lot will never ever focus on reality or help the victims for real.

  342. shankar says:
    May 9, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    We don’t want to come back with money and enjoy comforts while sorrounded by a sea of poverty and enduring jealosy and hostility.We want srilanka to join the developed world just like what we are in at the moment.
    _______________________________________________________

    Now// I call this pure selfishness.
    How can u demand some one to do things so u can enjoy the comforts the way u want with serene surroundings?
    u want some one else to get the dirty work done, so u could live the way u want? This is typical ‘Sri Lankan Diaspora’ attitude… I was in the west for a year of training. I know the attitude of the Sri Lankan Diaspora. I will not catagorise u as tamil diaspora… I know u r very much Sri Lankan at heart. ‘If you want the change be the change !’

  343. reality is that Tamils in Srilanka are looking after by the government in the same way as other communities?

    By killing 40,OOO in the same way as other communities???

    http://www.channel4.com/news/sri-lanka-evidence-of-ongoing-repression-and-abuse

    Then why they block the Mercey ship carrying food from Diaspora for desparte poor tamils stayed at home as brave
    until last minute ?

    If Tamil Diaspora to support the government for the well being of Tamils living in Srilanka then government eat everything like ‘Indian Tractors’ or rather giving to Tamils. ofcourse they are helping directly without any one know including you.

  344. EELAM dead. LTTE dead. Two soodus delivered but you guys never learn because you are all “BAD” maadus!

  345. Mahatma Gandhi – An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.

    “Forgiving is not forgetting; it’s actually remembering–remembering and not using your right to hit back. It’s a second chance for a new beginning. And the remembering part is particularly important. Especially if you don’t want to repeat what happened.”
    – Desmond Tutu

  346. what is missing is account of atrocities of LTTE Terrorists who killed innocent civilians for tryng to escape after keeping them as hostages by gunpoint

  347. Dear Manju,

    I am writing here to convey to you that we should agree to disagree. Some issues I do not agree with you so let us rest it.

    I am not having a hard mindset. During the 83 riots I carried a tamil unknown boy to safety on the pillion of my bike. I do not want flowers for this as that incident should have never taken place. There is deep grief and shame amongst the People both Sinhalese , Burgher and Muslim for what happened. I too carry that shame and guilt. In the same way I too suffered due to LTTE bombs that were set off targeting civilians. When the War came to an end we all were relieved and still are. So its not morally possible to seek an end to the War and then say that it was fought technically wrong. Its the same for LTTE sympathizers. You cannot say that the LTTE fought for Tamil liberation and should be tried for taking child soldiers or placing bombs in the rest of the country. Such is the savagery of war.

    I agree with you 100% like many others that Bandaranaike’s Sinhala only was wrong. I agree with you that there could have been a better way than standardisation to enter University. Inequality to enter university is long gone. So is the Language issue. English is the major language of writing letters in Colombo and in areas in the South replies do come in , in Sinhalese. I have not seen myself Govt Letters coming from the north in Tamil, Though I know that Pillian ( chief Minister East ) does not speak Sinhalese or pretends not to speak.

    You must try and forgive us in your heart if you can but even if you cannot dont live in the past. Like so many blog entries here the ordinary people do not want Political packages and solutions. their immediate needs are Economic development.

    Cheers and have a good day.

  348. I don’t have to like Karuna. I just tolerate him. Just like I don’t like JVP for what they did in 89, but I still tolerate them in the government because going after them would not solve anything.

    May be that’s the problem with us Sinhalese. We forgive and forget too easily. We have forgiven the JVP now two times and let them come back to the mainstream political scene without penalties. We have also forgiven the UNP for the brutal reaction against JVP without any demands of justice. We have forgiven the likes of KP and Daya Master. We even have forgiven without any demand of retribution the TNA, who were the Tigers mouthpiece. Compare that to what Allies did to Germans who even had a tiniest connection to Nazi’s after the WWII.

  349. Manju says:
    May 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm
    Tamil Diaspora would welcome this move.

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    Please get it straight in to ur heads that Sri Lankans do not welcome Tamil diaspora or their opinion. U can bark & hound from your greener pastures since u are unable to propagate a war mechine in Sri Lanka.

  350. The big inflated balloon – Tamil diaspora.

    Any balloon can be pricked and deflated easily.

    The pride of a man will lead to his down fall.

  351. How many times should you forgive, May be you will say seven times seven. We have crossed those limits long back.

  352. Dear Dilshan,

    I am really proud of your kind act. For the very first time, it is heart warming to hear someone like you in this blog expressing genuine sympathy and understanding for the misdeeds perpetrated upon Tamils by others. I am sure many us who blog here have similar experiences or heart rendering stories to share.This could help to alleviate the painful memories many of us are burdened with and serve as a cathartic towards real healing.If only more of us can express our feeling for each other, Sri Lanka would truly be a paradise.By the way, I would like to reiterate my strong opposition to a separate state.My personal opinion however is, unless our political hierarchy is pushed over the edge they would continue the same old gimmicks as before. That I think could only come from an outside force such as the UN.

  353. You mean to say that your roads are clean. Yes you have made a supreme effort to keep it clean.

    One should praise your work of keeping your roads clean…for cleaning the blood spilt in your nation, for removing the rotting corpses of the innocents from the days of your independence, from the days of Sinhala only, from the days of the riots that started from the 50’s, from the smoke of the Jaffna library burning.

    Only thing is that, can you afford to keep it clean that way for ever.

  354. But you have not shed or forgotten the Mahavamsa mindset, which is the root cause for all these things.

    Tamils have also forgotten and forgiven in the past many atrocities like the Sinhala only, riots, Jaffna library burning, Breaking up of their Satyagraha…only to find that you people have not changed your ways.

    Let us see you change at least now.

  355. I also hate this separate state. But with the arrival of UN on the accountability issue it is our fate. UN might worries some other states also consider Srilankan war solution as their exemplar. We are working for unification of at least Indian sub continent. Why the delay in proposed maritime transport between Colombo and tuticorin?
    An Eelam citizen

  356. ordinary people do not want Political packages and solutions. their immediate needs are Economic development.
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    Correction: this is singalese view of misunderstaning the Political packages and solutions my friend.

    For Tamil ordinary people they need and must Political solutions to ensure efective Economic development and everything.

    They don’t understand why these sinhalese politicians still hesitate for that sharing the power and self administration for very best Economic development and improvement of war afected land.

  357. dilshanf says:

    May 10, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Like so many blog entries here the ordinary people do not want Political packages and solutions. their immediate needs are Economic development.
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    Dear Dilshan

    Could you tell us if a poll or a referendum is held among the tamil people and they say overwhelmingly that they want a political solution, will you say okay,if they want let them have it,or will you say No,i don’t want to give them a political solution.A simple yes or no would suffice.

    In that same Un supervised referendum like in east timor we can ask whether they want to have nothing to do with srilanka and have their own nation consisting of the north only.
    So the questions will be framed thus

    Tick the box of your choice

    1.Own nation consisting of northern province only.
    2. Political solution and be one country.
    3.high priority for Economic development of the northeast by the srilankan government

    If let us say 60 percent say political solution,30 percent say tamil nation and 10 percent say economic development, then for political solution yes or no from you.

  358. Whatever you have added you can’t beat 40,000 record that your State terrorism killed innocent civilians.

  359. Now U becoming nasty like your forefathers , Many Thanks for showing your original face TRN!?

  360. I thought you cannot answer my direct question but now its come to the light you couldn’t read my above comment as well.

    Please learn -most importantly over 40,000 CIVILIANS dead.

  361. Ya you or your Bandaranayake killer didn’t chose Gun.
    You only fighting by gal, mul and shit… since 1957.

  362. TNA is only democratic SL party support for UN to find crime against humanity and warcrime
    and do remady. Anyone can support than other shit partys.ignore TRN ignorance.

  363. equality, good governance & law & order – all this are very basci democratic which
    was correpted in SL diferent storey.

    Political soltion for Tamil question is different.

    Am i debating with one who still don;t understand the difference between this two?

    Good bye! You can wake up who originaly slept not who acting as slept.

  364. Sri Lanka is a sovereign country… but oppose Sovereignity of Tamil Land.
    Act of SL army ofcourse (UN~)proved as occuping army. read un report for more vocablary.

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    How can u say this without even trying?

    who said we haven’t tried? check SL courts- how many case we have filed aginst for this?

    Tamils trying from 50’s sathiyakiraga…..who opposing vilontly?

    see this what happen to even some higher level and icrc try to save those 40,000 and injured.
    all other effort peanuts compare to this.

    http://www.aftenposten.no/spesial/wikileaksdokumenter/article4109578.ece

  365. There is no need for you or anyone to convince the Sinhalese that Tamil people do not wish to have anything to do with the Sinhalese. I think Sinhalese people already know this. What is source for goose is source for gander. If it is the case that Tamils wish they would be better off without the Sinhalese you can be rest assured that Sinhalese too share the same sentiments.

    However, the problem is how to carry out this separation in a manner that satisfies the claims to resources by both communities. If you can propose such a division of land and other things then please spit it out. Otherwise learn to put up with the other. “We don’t want you” slogan goes both ways. What is the point in uttering it again and again if there is no way to separate the country which is fair to both communities? Of course if you don’t bloody care whether your proposed solution is fair to the other its a different matter.

  366. Tick the box of your choice
    dilshanf says:

    May 10, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Like so many blog entries here the ordinary people do not want Political packages and solutions. their immediate needs are Economic development.

    ——

    shankar says:
    May 11, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    If let us say 60 percent say political solution,30 percent say tamil nation and 10 percent say economic development, then for political solution yes or no from you.

    ——————-
    Shankar,

    I think you did not get the statement made by Dilshan.
    Common people means Sinhalese. :- )

    No political solution or democratic referundam will be offered to remnants of LTTE (Tamils living north) 🙁

  367. Dear Shankar,

    Its not prudent to stuff a referendum down the throats of the Tamil or Muslim Civilians in the north now.

    Referendums can be held at prudent times lets say…. just after the all the Muslims were chased out of Jaffna?. Someone said that there was anger against the Singhalese after 83, but wht did the Muslims do to get chased out of their own places?

    So lets say another good time is when All moderate tamil political leaders are shot dead. …. like now? so does that give a fair voice?

    Please dont forget that the LTTE murdered every opposition political leader including the Entire TULF sans 1.

    There is no point of making the TNA the only representation of the Tamil people in the north when there was systematic ethnic cleansing and bundled together with systematic elimination of any moderate tamil leadership.

  368. Wikki leaked cables from the US Embassy says the TNA MP. whose name is withheld reported 3000 deaths and 25000 injured on the 16 and 17 May period,when the fighting drew to an end.

    Given the close association of the TNA with the LTTE, this figure surely must have been inflated to get the maximum “return” from the US.

    The leaks further reveal that the Embassy and senior UN staff had access to arial photos of the combat zone taken by the Air Force.

    In addition I am sure, the US and EU satellites would have been working O/T to pick up the exact details, amidst their unrelenting efforts to save the LTTE over this period.

    ICRC personnel were in close proximity if not actually in the combat zones, according to the Leaks.

    Embassy Officials demanded that the Govt provide shelter for the 50.000 who escaped on the 16.

    Under these circumstances, how can Mr Moon publish a report ,with a ridiculous accusation of tens of thousand s of Tamil deaths?

  369. Why there is no way to separate the country which is fair to both Communities?
    If there is a will there is a way – either to stay together (or) go on your ways separated

    Btw, it appears you are political adviser to MR & Brothers as well an influencing religious Guru for Buddhists.

    TNA leaders should meet you to resolve srilankan conflicts.

  370. Mahesh,
    This so called Mahavansa mindset something that is invented by Tamil separatists to justify their actions.

  371. Without telling the number of LTTE casualities, the Darusman Report has no validity at all. LTTE was in CIVILIAN cloths. The LTTE rumps think UN is a tool for their terrorist ambitions.

    Political Solution was rejected by the LTTE in 1987. Why are you LTTE supporters ask the same now? Some Tamils want to ride on the backes of the remaining Tamils to make their life happy.

  372. Who’s nasty ? What is the original face?

    the pro LTTE TD who financed and supported a seperatists war in SL?

    This is my honest opinion about them.

    they failed that attempt & now trying to find other ways and means to destroy my beloved motherland.

    U people who shout for justice is really asking for revenge.
    U never want Sri Lanka to be peaceful.
    U want this land to bleed until u overcome ur bitterness.

  373. No, what I asked u is if u have tried to get ur property which u said is unlawfully occupied by the army at present?

    U think the land in North is ur inheritance.

    u keep replaying the 50yrs ago episodes.

    oophs! I think v said good bye forever. Sorry for bothering u again. I’ll stop my conversation with u for good.

  374. regarding our Elders-don’t have what so ever understanding about sl situation .they should have endorsed it after their own analysis of events. Just reading it and endorsing doesn’t give any credibility to a report despite how eminent the elders are.

    sat images-none of the images so far released point out war crimes. The artillery craters shown are not images taken in no fire zone. It is surprising why those sats couldn’t observe the corpses of 146000.

    See the following link and read the latter part of the article
    http://www.island.lk/index.php?page_cat=article-details&page=article-details&code_title=23196

  375. There is no point of making the TNA the only representation of the Tamil people in the north

    ——–
    Who should decide whether TNA or any other party should be Tamils representatives in North?
    Tamils living in North or Sinhalese from south?

    Is it prudent if GOSL/ Sinhalese dictate what is good for the Tamils in north?

  376. Political solution was offered by GOSL in 1987. why do MR & Co deny it now? Some Sinhalese want to ride on the backs of the remaining Tamils to make their life happy.

    You are right. It appears there are still 250,000 LTTE moving around in Civil clothes in North Srilanka..

  377. Dear Shankar,

    I have no problem with your sugesstion provided the referandum is held over all of Sri Lanka. If I have a referandum in my house My mother in law will want her section. And if the referandum is held only in her room of course she will want it. These referandums which effect all Sri Lankans should be held across the ENTIRE country.

    so if the ENTIRE country votes as you say …… I will salute that decision and will live with it.

    cheers

    Dilshan

  378. Josep:
    You cannot answer why Tamils refused the political solution in 1987. Once a rejected offer normally never be offered again! That is the political tradition. LTTE goons never know the political reality!

  379. Dilshan F says:

    May 12, 2011 at 5:19 am
    If I have a referandum in my house My mother in law will want her section.
    ——————————————–
    Dear dilshan

    Forget about the referendum and your mother in law who seems to have given you this advice, though i pity you if she comes and lives inside your house because that will ruin your sex life because your wife will always feel in her subconcious that amma is peeping and watching and won’t be her usual uninhibited self because of our childrens culture and upbringing where sex is concerned and as a result your marriage will gradually deteriorate,so be careful and don’t hold any referendums where family matters are concerned and show you are the boss and that you make all the decisions and what you say is the final decision and referendum or no referendum she can’t come and live in the house.Be careful,i think your mother in law is using this referendum issue to slowly creep into your house and once again take charge and dominate her daughter.

    We are not here supposed to be focusing on the referendum which i brought out only as a example to ask you if the tamils want a political solution will you give your okay for it,since you said that they want only economic development and not a political solution.What is your answer to that mate?Simple yes, you wil say okay for it or no,you will oppose it.Now don’t hold my nose and take me into hambantota or into the pros and cons of political solution versus economic development etc etc.

  380. Only because of this Mahavamsa mind set you are denying the history of the Tamils there. Only because of this Mahavamsa mind set you are sticking on to the Unitary instead of the United State.

  381. I don’t want the island to be split politically. But in South Sudan, Sreberenica etc the referendum was taken only among the affected populace. it didn’t cover the entire population.

  382. This is Sinhalese style.
    To convict a culprit (if Sinhalese)in a court of law, the accused himself MUST accept the crime first.

  383. M.Siva,

    You wont answer Why Sinhalese refuse the political solution NOW, in 2011.
    Once rejected you, WILL never be offered this chance again. Dont blame Tamils few years later.

    Sinhalese goons never know the politics reality! Look at the pathetic state of Srilanka today. They have to beg and at the mercy of India, China & Pakistan, some of the developing and poorer country in the world.

    Btw, i have a doubt. Are you a Sinhalese goon hiding in a Tamil name. A wolf in sheep’s cloth?

  384. Shankar,

    jokes aside – this is the meaning of ‘democratic’ or democracy.

    pertaining to or characterized by the principle of political or social equality for all

    Sri Lanka is a Nation where the political leadership is elected into power every six or four years. Whether the elected are thugs, murderers is not the issue.

    So to answer your question – If the tamils want a political solution …. The Answer is NO!!!
    If the whole of Sri Lanka want a political solution the Answer is Yes!.

    Let me add to this.

    When the ‘Tamil’ political leadership decided that North was for Tamils only and that too for Jaffna Tamils — Not the Batticaloa or upcountry, and chased every other race, the UN and the whole world didnt bother to make any report. Dont take us as Dumb to think that after a bit of “Ethnic Cleansing’ you can ask a very ‘Sweet’ and innocent question …… Daddy but WE ALL want Ice cream!!

  385. In a TV interview on Sunday May 8th, President Obama said. “Justice was done, And I think that anyone who would question that the perpetrator of mass murder on American soil — didn’t deserve what he got needs to have their head examined.”

    “The United Nations condemns terrorism but it also has basic rules of how counter-terrorism activity has to be carried out. It has to be in compliance with international law,” — Navi Pillay. Now Navi Pillay is definitely going to have her head examined or have it done for her by US.

    Since everybody here agrees that Obama is the wonder child, can we stop asking questions about killing or torture of LTTE leaders henceforth?

  386. I agree with you Dilshan that Manju had lied about the university entrance.
    When he says he had met many from Royal college with lesser marks.

    The Royal college he mentions must be in colombo not in Ampara.

    He’s completely twisting the truth. Colombo & Jaffna were affluent Districts in the 60s – early 90s.

    This is how subtle the tamil nationalist propaganda is spread.

  387. Jayalalitha’s AIADMK is leading tamilnadu Elections, who claimed “Eelam is the only way” for SL Tamils.
    Recently she indicated India should help war crime culprits to be brought to justice.

    Congress party has lost its mass base completely in Tamilnadu.

    There could be a radical change in India’s stand on SL tamils issue, from now on to next few years..

    Interesting period indeed.

  388. Navin

    Osama Bin Laden’s wives and teenage daughter are alive and are waiting in Pakistan to be deported to either Saudi Arabia or Yemen.

    Where is Vellupillai Prabhakaran’s wife and teenage son?

    If you are able to give a satisfactory answer, the legality and the circumstances of Osama killing will be explained to you.

    There is another idea. Proceed to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia immediately. First you will receive a red carpet welcome. Then you will be shown the real footage of the killing of Osama.

  389. Has the Justice had been done to the Jaffna library burners, to the victims of various riots from the 50’s, to the people who tore the bc and the dc pact, to the air attack victims to those who were killed in the govt declared NFZ……

  390. Joseph is a Tamil and Sivananthan is Sinhala.. hahaha. Can you tell what political solution Tamil parties looking for?

    Tell me why your beloved LTTE goons rejected the solution of merging East and North? Are you Tamils want a solution from Americans or from Vatican?

    Sri Lanka is a small nation and it will look for help always!

    Tell how many billions LTTE destroyed in the last 30 years?

  391. Prabhakaran’s wife, daughter and a son are happy in Denmark with a looted wealth of nearly 500 million Euros!

  392. Jaffna Library was burnt down by UNP thugs. Then LTTE joined the same UNP thugs and killed more than 1000 IPKF soldiers and thousands of Tamils who supported 1987 Indo-Lanka agreement. How did LTTE go into the NFZ? Do you know parents were killed by LTTE inside the NFZ for refusing to give their children?

    Where are you from? I think you are not from Sri lanka!

  393. dilshanf says:

    May 12, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Whether the elected are thugs, murderers is not the issue.

    So to answer your question – If the tamils want a political solution …. The Answer is NO!!!
    If the whole of Sri Lanka want a political solution the Answer is Yes!.

    Let me add to this.

    When the ‘Tamil’ political leadership decided that North was for Tamils only and that too for Jaffna Tamils — Not the Batticaloa or upcountry, and chased every other race,

    ——————————————————

  394. dilshanf says:

    May 12, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Whether the elected are thugs, murderers is not the issue.

    So to answer your question – If the tamils want a political solution …. The Answer is NO!!!
    If the whole of Sri Lanka want a political solution the Answer is Yes!.

    Let me add to this.

    When the ‘Tamil’ political leadership decided that North was for Tamils only and that too for Jaffna Tamils — Not the Batticaloa or upcountry, and chased every other race,

    ——————————————————

  395. dilshanf says:

    May 12, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Whether the elected are thugs, murderers is not the issue.

    So to answer your question – If the tamils want a political solution …. The Answer is NO!!!
    If the whole of Sri Lanka want a political solution the Answer is Yes!.

    Let me add to this.

    When the ‘Tamil’ political leadership decided that North was for Tamils only and that too for Jaffna Tamils — Not the Batticaloa or upcountry, and chased every other race,

    ——————————————————
    Dear dilshan

    Lot of people are attacking the TNA also here as former tiger sympathizers. In the same vein as the sinhalese accepting thugs and murderers as you say, they must also accept the TNA don’t you think?

    I’am not a supporter of the TNA, and wish that someone like neelan tiruchelvam was leading the tamils, but what to do, we have to accept the democratic process.

    I probed your take on the political solution because many are saying on this blog that tamils don’t want political solution.I was wondering how do they know that,after all the elected representatives should be the ones who could feel the pulse of the people.Then it struck me that maybe they don’t want to give the political solution and just giving this reason as an excuse.I hope you don’t mind me drilling your brain a bit because i’am sick of this and want someone to just directly say they don’t want to give a political solution to the tamils.That way i will respect their views because every individual has a right to his or her way of thinking.As for me i would gladly ditch the political solution if the people in the north and east don’t want it,because what has it got to do with me.I’am comfortable here while they are suffering there and the last thing i want to do is heap more burdens on them as well as sinhalese people also who are working their ass off for paltry sums in dollar terms.That is why it is an important issue for me.In the absence of a referendum the next best thing is the elected representatives to get the feedback and so far what we see is they want a political solution. I can understand the feeling of anger when people from abroad give advice,but i assure you nothing will make me happier than to see a peaceful and prosperous srilanka in the future.

    As for the whole of srilanka wanting a politcal solution,but one man dilshan does not want,but dilshan changes his mind when he is outvoted by 99.99999%, thank god for small mercies at least.

    You are a businessman.If one of your employees come and say they are going through immense hardship and would like a raise,you will say if all the people in the company say to give you this salary increase, i will give it.If by chance he or she gets the written approval of all the employees including the management, you will say to go and get your mother in laws approval too.

    The point here is you have to make a decision based on fairness always.If the request is fair you accede to it.If it is unfair,you reject it.Asking all the people including all the donkeys is a wste of time and does not get a good result.After world war 2 if roosevelt had asked the american people what to do with japan and germany,they would have said to colonise them and treat them as slaves.Ultimately leaders have to make the decisions that are good for the people,not the other way round being led by the people.

    As for the tamil political leadership that you say chased out everyone out of the north,that is news to me. After the 83 riots,JR evacuated the sinhalese for their own safety.Tamil politicians did not go and tell tamils from upcountry or batticaloa not to come and settle in the north.In fact after the 83 riots affected tamils from the upcountry settled in the wanni.The LTTE of course chased the muslims out and you are right when you say it should have received international condemnation.However the LTTE was not elected representatives of the tamil people and therefore not their political leadership.The Government should have immediatly resettled the muslims back in jaffna using the armed forces and finished off the LTTe at that time itself,because its citizens the muslims are being ethnically cleansed and the government is responsible for all its citizens.So you should turn your sights on your own elected representatives who were deeply flawed characters in my opinion.

  396. What is wrong in Joseph, being a Tamil? M.Sivanathan a sinhala in proxy Tamil name is Odd, ofcouse!

    LTTE fought for a separate tamil state, and did not agree for devolution of power with in united Srilanka. LTTE believed solely in military power to achieve the goals.

    Strong Political movement rather than a miliraty group would have brought what SL tamils fight for so long. If SL Tamils are united and fight politically in a peaceful manner, India will be able to help what Srilankan Tamils desire.

    If Sinhalese deny a political solution to Tamil with in united srilanka Now, SL Tamils will achieve a separate state later.

    Like jayalalitha, i too tend to believe Eelam is the only way for SL tamils.

  397. some links from trans current news site. for those who missed the article.

    http://transcurrents.com/news-views/archives/456 :-
    The European Parliament today defeated an attempt by the Socialist group “to seek the immediate establishment of an international justice mechanism” on Sri Lanka, during an ‘urgency’ debate called by the Socialist and Green parties at the Strassbourg Plenary session to draw attention to the so called “UN Panel Report” on accountability issues in Sri Lanka.

    The eventual resolution adopted instead said the European Parliament,
    _________________________________

  398. Here is an heartrending article which creates a loss loss situation for two parties.I am wondering if the british government and human rights groups who are asking this woman to pardon her attacker instead of an eye for an eye which will end up with everyone going blind, why can’t they also ask the tamils to pardon the rajapakshes and the srilankan armed forces and also ghaddhafi without bombing and trying to kill him.Also they could have pardoned osama for the sept 11 attack and saddam too.Maybe what is good for the goose is not good for the gander.

    How to change a hypocritical world.Easy.The asnwer is to muck around with the human genome map and DNA until we eliminate the human species and devise a new one.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43029928/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa

  399. TRN > you say many things. But remember one thing, reconciliation will not be possible without justice. It’s shocking how you brand justice as revenge.
    Like myself, many wanted an end to this arm struggle/conflict. People were driven beyond to their patience level. Both communities lost enough.
    Just because many supported an end for this arm struggle doesn’t mean people in power can abuse the support and conduct a war where uncountable civilian casualities perished.
    You have listed occations and I can list many massacres and rapes committed by SL indisciplined security forces. Why list, even I have an experience on my own.
    Even with these bitter experience, I wanted this war to come to an end but definitely not at the cost of innocent civilians.
    Surrendered LTTE leaders should have been arrested and tried for crimes. What is KP doing in MR’s guest house? How about criminal Karuna, who supervised the mass killing of 600 SL police in Batti? Oh well….that’s something you need ask yourself. After all, it’s the majority Sinhala brothers and sisters who must think…..
    Mate, stop shut up the cries for justice. It’s clear you are here trying to cover up the “quasi” regime and taking cheap shots at already hurting victims.
    Always remember…..if you are a corrupted father, probability of your kids turning that way is nearly 100%. Discipline and justice are the spinal cord of every nation/family, you must learn that yourself first then preach your kids and one day your kids will become better citizens of the south asia’s pearl island. Among many kids like that, there will be a good leader. We’ll wait for that day…..

    TRN, no offense mate, solely my opinion directed to you. I hope I am not wasting my time, this is my first and last reply to you.

  400. Hey dilshan buddy

    Good news for you,since you are interested in majority decision.Was just going through an article of my favourite srilankan journalist and in it it says that out of an expert panel of 17 people 11 gave out the majority report which you can read in the following link.Srilankans being srilankans with their individuality characteristics we can never get all to agree on anything, even simple things like whether to have polsambol or katta sambol for a party.

    Now that you can change your mind,when can we start implementing this which has been kept in cold storage since 2006. Or was it just a cunning ploy by mahinda to get the help of other countries to finish off the LTTE pretending he is interested in a political solution.Now it is coming back to bite him with everyone he promised asking where is the political solution you promised after cleaning up the LTTE and we all ganged up with you against them.

    Now don’t tell that the panel should have consisted of podiappuhamy,sookiribanda,bisomenike and gonthirala,or that your mother in law has to see it first.

    http://www.thesundayleader.lk/archive/20061210/issues.htm#The

  401. You forgot to mention what the INDIAN PEACE KEEPING FORCE in return to the ordinary tamil civilians…..mass killing, innocent civilians were ran over by chainblogs, ladies were raped….where did the SL government go? Joined hands with IPKF and participated well in all the injustices….by the way my Sinhala friends, I am an eye witness and this is something you probably have never red in southern news papers.
    I think M.Sivananthan has lost his balance and starting to cause disharmony to this blog. I hope dbsj will respect and consider my complain.

  402. Hahahaha.. I was there when IPKF arrived. They were Tamil speaking and friendly with Tamils untill LTTE started attacking them! But you better explain why LTTE joined UNP!

    SL government never joined IPKF. I think you are short of memories. But LTTE had started anti-India propagandas many months before the arrival of the IPKF.

    Now India did the justice!

  403. Joseppu!
    Your name is common in the list of traitors. Further you cry that no Tamil should talk against LTTE criminals who are backed by Vatican Nazi Pope and other WESTERN slaves.

    India never bend to the slaves of the WHITES. LTTE goons proved that they are slaves of WHITES. Jeyalalitha will write a letter to Sonia soon and chase all the LTTE in Tamil Nadu. She had already chased Gopalasamay and other LTTE big mouths!

  404. India has not dumped it but Tamils dumped it long ago!

    India used its high offices to accept it by Sinhalese but alas…. LTTE rejected it and the Tamil diaspora too rejected and danced with UNP Sinhalese.

    So, it will take time to convince the Sinhalese again to accept the same!

  405. Dear Barath,
    No offence mate. Like to know ur opinion too. It helps in healing the wounds.

    ———————–

    Surrendered LTTE leaders should have been arrested and tried for crimes
    ___________________________

    Whatever happened can it be reversed? What do you define as justice? is to punish the one who is responsible for this crime? So do u want the sentence on Sarath Fonseka to be prolonged a new accusation be bought to him? or do you want to accuse the defense secretary or the president?

    Sorry for posting more questions as I am clueless as what u want as justice?
    ———————–

    Mate, stop shut up the cries for justice. It’s clear you are here trying to cover up the “quasi” regime and taking cheap shots at already hurting victims.
    __________________________________

    This is completely a false accusation. I do not want to cover up any regime or any criminal. As usual you understand from your point of bias views. Look beyond your petty politics/differences. you will clearly see the truth.
    —————————————

    What is KP doing in MR’s guest house? How about criminal Karuna, who supervised the mass killing of 600 SL police in Batti? Oh well….that’s something you need ask yourself.
    __________________________________

    Why are u accusing me for this? I had nothing to do with this decisions. No referendum was held to get the majority opinion on this.
    In fact we Sri Lankans are more tolerant, when it come to accommodating our enemies in to comfortable positions,even without our consent.

    —————

    the majority Sinhala brothers and sisters who must think…..

    ___________________________

    I would never categorize myself as a sinhala or part of the majority.

    I would always like to be called as a person who loves my motherland and want to see it reaches its full potential, with equal opportunity to all its citizens. No other strings attached.

    This is my only reply to you.

  406. Thank u Shankar 4 the link.
    yes I did read the APRC recommendations in this link.
    Why the hell are they having talks again? Why can’t they take this as the basis to continue the talks and resolve the differences. As this comprehensively address many issues including the minorities in each province too.

    One thing I do not like is to divide the administrative deviosion in to ethnic devisions. Like muslim/tamil/sinhala. This will invariably bring segregation. There should be administrative regions but ethnicity should not be named to the region. As our communal mindset will start border trouble and will not allow another person from a different ethnicity entering their region.

  407. M.Sivananthan,

    u r new to this blog?

    Mahesh is from south India. Also s. Joseph is too.

    I did burst with laughs when I read ur other post addressing ‘josseppu’

  408. dear trn,
    i need to respond to the shit which has come from your arse.all this talk of moderation and giving equality to other minorities when did it occur? this has been the demands for the past fifty years?what were you supposed to be moderate sinhalese doing all these years?were you having a rip van winkle moment in your life?only when vp was ripping apart sinhalese army you got this enlightenment.you ignored sj chelvanayagam and you got vp.if tamils have not got a tamil tigers sinhalese would have wiped out tamils long ago.hence i am not going to buy this theory that sinhalese have got enlightenment and suddenly they are ready to treat tamils equally.i take it with a fistful of salt.

  409. An Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. But you have also to consider the plight of the victim. Otherwise he will go on putting acid on others. Only if there is retribution will these kind of animals stop their act.

    For you information the same eye for an eye and the ear for an ear is also there in the Manusmirithi.

  410. Only one of the battalions was from the Madras Regiment. All of them could not have spoken Tamil. LTTE always had anti India feelings. VP gave an interview to the Anita Pratap stating that he has to think of attacking the India even before the 1987 agreement.

    Joining hands with an enemy (UNP)is a political decision.

    One thing I have observed with you people Sivanathan and others is that you people are not ashamed about the fact that some other country had to come into your island to help you out.

    Even more than that is the happiness which you people seem to get by the fact that the Tamils have suffered at the hands of everybody including the IPKF.

    You people are really original…ORIGINAL PIECE.

    Sivanathan I hope you would remember the words of Bharathi ‘Sondha sahodarargal Thunbathil saaga Kandum, Sindhai irangaradi…Kiliye … Semmai Maranthaaradi.

  411. Sinhalese will have to accept to some sort of political solution. Whether it is 13 or 13 plus. You don’t have the luxury to keep going on without any political soln and killing the Tamils and marginalising them.

  412. Dear TRN,
    The article is so reflective of the prevalent callous disregard to the rule of law and common decencies so pervasive in our country from top to bottom.The author however neglected to comment on how she was treated in rest of the country and therefore lacks credence. If only Mahinda and his cahoots would set out to be exemplary, we would never be in the pathetic situation we are presently in. I still recall the lack of discipline among the military personnel to this day who perform searches almost like strip searches.I congratulate TRN for bringing this to our attention.

  413. lol, first you must know the meaning of “Peace Keeping”, not to kill innocent civilians who took shelter in temples and kovils.
    Is it LTTE joined UNP, or UNP joined LTTE and supplied arms? You can answer yourself.
    SL government never joined IPKF? Only in papers, is it really?
    I was in Jaffna to witness the atrocities unleashed by IPKF on civilians after some LTTE personal threw grenade. What did the civilians do? where did your so called UNP, whom you are trying to polish, go?
    Clearly you are not someone from Jaffna, your rubbish and kiddish statements say it all. Don’t make a mokkery of yourself.

  414. Dear Shankar,

    Obama didnt come into power having special political packages or solutions for the blacks in the USA. If you are saying that no tamil can come into power in Sri Lanka because of Ethnicity then you are having an inferiority complex. In the business world Tamils are respected for their honesty and perseverance. In my company two very senior positions are held by Tamils, there are others in many ranks. I have no special political package within my company for tamils. They shine because they shine.
    In other professions, Architecture, Law, Medicine there are tamils in the forefront.

    The 17 ethnic breakdown was 12 Sinhala, Four Tamil and One Muslim. of Which 6 Sinhalese did not agree with the report and did not sign.

    If you take it as these guys represented the country you are wrong.

    To answer your question:

    Do I want to give the Tamils a political package which is DIFFERENT to what the Muslims and the Sinhalese have – Absolutely NOT.

    I believe that the Constitution of Sri Lanka must protect all its citizens and provide equal opportunity to all its people.

    But if a part of its citizens do not believe in Sri Lanka and want a bit of this paradise for their own. … well if thats what your political package for the tamils encourage …. Its a definite NO from me.

  415. Hey Shankar buddy.

    More reading for you:

    Norway secretly helped LTTE cadres
    Norwegian embassy personnel in Colombo have secretly aided Tamil rebels out of Sri Lanka and provided political asylum in Norway for years, a Norwegian newspaper reported.

    So much for impartial peacemakers. my foot !

  416. Sivanathan. The SLG is telling that all the family members have been killed. You are a comic relief to us. May be you are a person who will poke fun at their own people…who will feel happy if their own people suffered….may be you, DD and Karuna share same values.

    You can be against the LTTE, but why should you say such sweeping tales, lies that the Madivahdani and her childern are living?

  417. dilshanf

    ” Norway secretly helped LTTE cadres ”

    How come some LTTE cadres were smuggled out of IDP camps and given safe passage to wherever they are now. Most probably you will deny this business ever happened.

    So much for the world class army, my goodness !

  418. Didn’t China helped SL warcrime regime which killed their 40,000 own civilian? Will you say morden impartialist?

  419. Nothing new.

    Even our sweep ticket sellers would have known this long before the Aftenpost ‘s discovery.

    By the way guess who comes to the rescue?

    None other than the ex Tiger care taker Mr Eric Solheim

  420. Dear Dishan,

    What is so shocking to hear that Norway is helping Tamil rebels? When the Tamil issues have gone unresolved for so many decades, I am not surprised that other countries are covertly aiding and abetting the rebels to destabilize Sri Lanka.After all India incubated and adopted the Tigers to become a strong force in the 1970’s. Your respected leader who you awe , promised to implement peaceful process once Tigers were eliminated. Now these countries are disappointed with our disingenuous leader.

  421. Please correct it- ‘part of its citizens do not believe in Sri Lanka’ as
    part of its citizens do not believe in power hungry sinhala politicians
    who often violate the Tamils safety of living and their right to speak and
    carrying forward their language and own culture in their native land without any interference
    of the Government sponsered (Terrorism,sinhalse colanisation,LanguageLaw,Education and Employment) discrimination.

    political package for NE Tamils; Its definate YES ,not bit of this paradise for their own but for
    avoid the hell from you.

    http://www.eurasiareview.com/un-panel-report-sri-lanka-and-india-analysis-13052011/

    “The first step is to penetrate the clouds of deceit and distortion and learn the truth about the world, then to organise and act to change it. That’s never been impossible and never been easy” – Noam Chomsky

  422. Take what suits u.

    If ur theory is correct since VP is no more the sinhalese (not me) can wipe out the tamils.

    Sound argument !!

  423. dilshanf says:

    May 14, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Obama didnt come into power having special political packages or solutions for the blacks in the USA

    I have no special political package within my company for tamils. They shine because they shine

    The 17 ethnic breakdown was 12 Sinhala, Four Tamil and One Muslim. of Which 6 Sinhalese did not agree with the report and did not sign.

    I believe that the Constitution of Sri Lanka must protect all its citizens and provide equal opportunity to all its people.

    But if a part of its citizens do not believe in Sri Lanka and want a bit of this paradise for their own
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    dear daddy dilshan

    Obama did not have to ask for political packages for the african americans because they did not want it.I think looking at africa they must be having a good idea of whethr they will be better off or worse off by selfadministration.They are quite happy to let the whites do the administration as long as they are treated fairly and equally. Since martin luther kings time they have been fighting only for equal rights.Besides they have never had a country of theirs in the US dating back to the 10th century.Their circumstances are quite different from the tamils of srilanka,though equal rights and fairness was a common factor for both. If after independence the shortsighted sinhala leaders in order to come to power did not play the communal card and embark on sinhala bhuddhist nationalism policies and violence against tamils to frighten and subjugate them,then probably we would not have ended up with the tamil political leadership wanting a tamil nation.So comparing the african americans in the US with the tamils in srilanka is like comparing apples with oranges.To answer your question it will be impossible for a tamil president of srilanka to have the support of the tamils if he ignores what they want and unlike obama who got the majority of african american votes,the srilankan tamil president will come to power mainly with the sinhalese votes. The fact that he is a tamil will not quell the unrest among his people.

    As for your company the tamils are happy there because they know that the boss is a fair man and not communal minded. If you were otherwise and favouring the sinhalese then the unrest would have begun.This is what went wrong after independence and now difficult to reverse.I remember reading sshakespeare’s macbeth when i was about 15 and what struck me was when macbeth went on killing due to the instigation and influence of his wife, he came to a stage where he was sick of it but could not stop because in his own words”returning would be more tedious than going over”.Once the ball has started to roll a long way in a certain direction it becomes difficult to roll it back when you see the distance it has to go back compared to the distance it has to go forward.That is why i feel a political solution has to be given without wasting any more time so that we can start reversing this whole process that started after independence before it goes too far.

    As for the expert panel your perception is quite intelligent.If you look at it in totality nearly two thirds have agreed,but if you look at it ethnically 50 percent of the sinhalese have not.So there is a flaw as you point out.It would have been better if they had discussed it more.What is the point of rushing it out like that when it is just kept inside a drawer for nearly 5 years.It would have been better if they had discussed more with people like H.L.desilva and others and looked into their point of view too. Views of intelligent sinhalese should be taken into consideration as long as their judgements are not clouded by ethnicity.

    As for the constitution you mention it has not done the values you believe in,that is why we are in the current predicament.Therefore it has to be changed for the better.

    As for a part of its citizens wanting some paradise with icecream from dilshan daddy,take your mind back about 500 years ago when your forefathers attacked us(i believe you are of portuguese descent because of your surname).Your great great grandaddy left his paradise which was portugal and sailed all the way thousands of miles to a small island that was not doing any harm to him, and attacked a paradise that was called the jaffna kingdom and killed its aryachakaravarti sangili massacred the local inhabitants who did not want to convert to catholism and now their descendents are telling the descendents of those locals no ice cream for you,but we can give you chocolate pudding if you assimilate with us just like our forefathers did.

  424. The author however neglected to comment on how she was treated in rest of the country and therefore lacks credence.
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    The author only deals with Jaffna. If u really want to know I can give an abstract of the rest of the country. Most of the public servants (health care worker, public transport, postal service, immigration department, ect)lack courtesy. They act if they are the lords & we are the servants. Never polite I have never heard an equaling word for ‘thank you’/’please’ from these public servants.

    Of course the supermarkets, local markets, fishermen, banks, sales men/women are more courteous and polite.

    one positive out come is the fish market fiasco. The law & order was restored. constructive criticism will bring positive changes.
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    we would never be in the pathetic situation we are presently in.
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    compared to which era u say that present situation is pathetic… pre 1955?

    I personally feel the present situation is better than few years ago or a decade ago. There is much more to look forward at present than a decade ago.

  425. TUN,
    sorry for the delay pal to answer your original question. i had to scroll up & down to find one of my previous comments to that I finally found it. I am copying it here.
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    TRN says:
    May 3, 2011 at 8:01 am
    Now// The figures quoted in the panel report are not accurate or proven.. but alleged. What they recommend is an investigation to prove or disapprove. For this the country concerned should give consent. what the many SL are arguing is we don’t want to know numbers. How accurate could these be?

    Its best to forgive and forget and get on with the lives on earth. Harbouring revenge and bitterness will not bring a solution for the burning problems the living victims are facing.

    We need to bring back the values that were lost during the war and the culture and hope. Politicians playing ball with the lives of victims for their own gain & selfish ambitions.

  426. Where are you living dilshan. Your constitution is in constipation. Your constittution is unitary which doesnt reflect your true nature. tamils have no qualms to live in a united sri lanka. they do not want to live in a unitary sri lanka. unitary sri lanka has caused much of the trouble for the tamils there.

  427. Men in srilanka(especially if they are opposition supporters)beware.I was not aware that promising to marry and not doing so is a chargable offence. Many sinhalese friends during my teenage days would have been behind bars.I wonder what about the other way about,if a woman promises to marry you and then marries somebody else? Can the man go to the police station?Will the cops whole their sides and die laughing or will they take down his compalaint.In future the srilankan police are going to have the time of their life with women pouring in to file a complaint.What about women who get pregnant after promising that they are faithfully following birth control procedures. Can the man charge them too?

    http://print.dailymirror.lk/news/front-page-news/43962.html

  428. SLG told Prabhakaran and his eldest son were killed not others. But the PULI Nets only cry the whole family was killed and published a photo of a LTTE girl as his daughter but that girl was a well known face and worked at the LTTE TV.

    So,you pro-LTTE idiots try to fool the Tamils in a planned way! Mathivathani and he children are happy in Denmark with looted billions!

    I think you did not lost any one to the guns of LTTE or SLG! that is why you cry like a fool!

  429. When you pointing one finger to Diaspora
    other 3 fingers pointing you TRN

    U want this land to bleed until u overcome ur bitterness from Theravatha Mahavamsa
    U never want Sri Lanka to be peaceful since 1958 Sinhala only act to until today occuping army
    U people who shout for Soverinity is really asking for revenge to ‘Self rule Tamil Homeland’

  430. Dear Mahesh, Manju and Shankar,

    I will be away for a while on vacation .
    A few points to argue on.

    Manju, I don’t ‘Awe’ the present leader as you put it that way.
    Sonny Shankar, I do have a Portuguese surname, but not sure who my forefathers were 500 years ago. I have no intention of living in the past as you do.
    Mahesh – I am living in Colombo, do travel to Trinco and the South without fear of bombs. I believe you are living in a world that cannot see whats happening on the ground or at present.

    Cheers to All
    Take some pot shots at me guys and behave well.

    Take care.

  431. No I usually do not avoid ‘pea’ nuts, But love to bake and eat them, then allow my digestive system to do the rest !!

  432. I will not take pot shots when you are absent. Have a nice trip, if it is a personal trip or have a very successful trip if it is a business trip. Let God be with you.

  433. This is nothing in comparison to your Diaspora buddies ,the married ones marrying the poor young IDPs and keeping them as sex slaves?

    By the way haven’t you heard the term” breach of contract”?

  434. Naive Dilshan,

    Figure out first why China is there, will you? Are you so gullible to be taken for a ride. Mahinda just wants to protect and nurture his clan and is willing to barter the country lock, stock and barrel.Norway is in no way impartial, never was, never will be!

  435. TRN,

    I am so glad you think all is well and hunkey dorey in Sri Lanka. You not the only one though, that was the common belief among Sinhalese pre 1955 and post 1955!

  436. Shanker,
    It was a great analysis & reply. Brain drain is very much evident from srilanka.
    It reminds me a quote, may be from Mark Twain- “Do not let the education stand on your way of learning.”

  437. It was not just the Sinhala politicians that played the ethnic card. The Tamil politicians were equally guilty of that.

    It was interesting to read what you wrote about the black struggle in USA. Here is a group of people that had been captured from their native African villages like a bunch of animals, brought to the new world under subhuman conditions and then treated for 300 years as complete subhumans. After all that, as you observed, they still did not request a separate political identity or a country, but just a demanded that they be treated justly and fairly and as equals. In fact they did not even support the number of budding black militant movements like Panthers because unlike our Tamil cousins, Blacks were wise enough to know what that could have done to their community.

    As you say, comparing Tamils of SL and Blacks of America is like comparing apples and oranges. But that has not stopped many of our so called intelligentsia from asking if Obama can be the president of USA why not a Tamil for the president of SL, again without realizing that Obama’s circumstance and the current and past situation in SL are totally different.

  438. Manju,
    China has been with Sri Lanka from time time of independence. Compared to other powers, it is one country that has not tried to invade or control Sri Lanka in any fashion. Only thing it has done in Sri Lanka is trade. The fact that MR wants to protect and nature his clan should come as no surprise to anyone. After all, he is a SL politician. What you seems to have forgotten is that is what your politicians did too – protect their clan, and especially their caste.

    Norway is a country, while being a very wealthy country in the Europe, has very little say or clout in European and world politics. They thought that they could come to Sri Lanka and act as a superpower arbiter. It is a pity that they still have not figured out that they were taken for a ride by the LTTE.

  439. Sivanathan please look into the article once you have written it. Otherwise people will think this is a nut case and has to go to some asylum.

    I was not able to understand a wee bit of your posting. Only ranting and raving deriding any body and every body on the planet Earth without rhyme or reason.

  440. Now that Mahesh and Shamker got a break, they should travel the out back of Tamil Nadu and write a report on how to rum the state with special emphasis on ways to improve the economic standard of the rural as well as urban and submit it to their new idol. Miss Jeyalalitha,

    With the knowledge they display here on all matters of importance encompassing . Economic Management, Good Governance , Political Solutions and Human Rights, they must be able to prepare a smashing report.

    From the accounts here, the people of Tamil Nadu need more help than anyone else,.for they are not doing that well.

    If this duo can make a difference it will be a major service,

  441. Dear Anonymous

    Do you mean to say that Dishanf is travelling Portugal to sole their economic crisis.

  442. OUR AMMA IS THERE. SHE KNOWS EVERYTHING. WHAT CAN WE TELL HER WHICH SHE DOES NOT KNOW ALREADY?

    SHE KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS OF THE TAMILS IN THE TN AND ALSO SHE KNOWS HOW TO SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS THE TAMILS FACE IN SRI LANKA.

  443. No pal.

    He is having a well deserved break after his exhaustive efforts to drill some common sense in to you guys.

  444. According to the recent post from Mr Jeyaraj,”Ammu” is an arrogant, vengeful and corrupt woman with a dubious past.

    Even the Ministers of her Govt wanting to be dogs or servants under her, shows the “servile” nature of her followers.

    There is clear evidence that she has done well for herself from the last two terms and surely will do even better from the third.

    If her followers, icluding the people here want to prostrate and kiss her Brahamin feet, that is their prerogative.

    But I am not sure whether our Tamil brothers in Srilanka would want to follow suit.

  445. Dear Ranjan.

    Tamils never achieved any independence under you. They don’t want China if given a choice. They would rather go along with India which is a true democracy. Why can not the Sinhalese free Tamils to join with India? Why would you want to hold on to Tamils who have suffered immensely under your regime time and again and were the victims of organized pogroms? Why is that you Sinhalese don’t want to share any aspect of your independence with other communities? India is far advanced in so many ways they are soon to be a super power! Your politicians are corrupt for ever and that is why you go with a begging bowl to IMF and China. Shame on you for rooting for China as your closest ally. I bet one more time that you would never choose to take residence in China. China has advanced to be super power but their but they have awful human rights record. You are a nice guy but you just can not foresee your future intelligently enough.

  446. TNA is not showing any progress on political discussion with GOSL so far….

    DMK-Congress, the major associate (behind the scene) for GOSL’s war crime, badly defected in the election, definitely not because of Mulivaikkal. But Mulivaikkal is also a negligible catalyst for the defeat, on top of the mammoth 2G-spectrum scandals, too many electricity cuts, Karunanity-family domination over Kodampakkam (Not just Vijay but also Rajani was not happy with it) and so on…

    Vijayakanth is not seems that powerful but without AIADMK-DMDK coalition, Jeyalalita would not have obtained the majority or it may have been a very close race between DMK-AIADMK. It is a win-win for both Vijayakanth (opposition leader) and Jeyalalita (Chief Minister).

    Jeyalality is very powerful than Karunanity, if she is kept warm, she will get it done at any cost but keeping her warm is a challenging task for Seeman and co… People like Cho Ramasamy, Subramaniya Swamy, Hindu Ram and Jayalalita’s natural attraction toward Congress for greater self interest will soon disassociate her from Mulivaikkal and war crimes. It may not be surprised to see Seeman and Viko arrested to attract congress. It is time for Seeman, Viko, Nedumaran and others not to celebrate or stay apart, rather get together at least now to play legally, smartly and politically to make the right moves… Don’t associate with Karunanity because Jeyalaita going pro-Congress or don’t let Jeyalaita to disassociate easily…. It is tough, but must play smartly, will they do it, or will go back to square one, lets wait and see…

  447. Manju,
    Personally I could not care less if the island was ruled as one or two countries provided that there was complete freedom of movement, property rights, religious rights and rights of seeking employment across the border. But I also know that that is a utopian dream that will never materialize given the at least 2500 year history.

    Both parties, Sinhalese and Tamils have to acknowledge that we are intertwined with each other communities and whether we like it or not, we have to learn to live with each other. A separation, if it comes, will have to be forced and you don’t have the demographics on your side to do that. A forced separation if it comes with or without Indian or any other country’s help, will only result in complete destruction of the Tamil community in sri Lanka, I hope wisdom will prevail in the end.

    As for your question of “why do you want to hold on to Tamils…” I wish there was a simple answer to that. The simplest answer would be, “We don’t want to hold you. If you want to go, just leave, but you can’t live here and divide the land” Most of intelligent people in Sri Lanka will acknowledge that we Sinhalese have almost an irrational fear of being assimilated and disappearing in a sea of South Indians that include almost 70 million Tamils. In the modern context, yes the fear is irrational, but people look for past examples and what they see do not reassure them. They see it in the distant past, and they see it in the recent past. If the recent past is anything to go by, you know what happened when your “boys” had the upper hand just a few years ago. Do you think that less than 10% of the population has rights to more than 60% of the coastline and 30% of the land mass? I am not saying that Tamils are to be blamed for the current situation, but the fact is that action or reaction by the Tamil community has not done anything to reassure the majority community either.

    As for your question “Why that is you Sinhalese don’t want to share any aspect of your independence with other communities..”, that has not much merit. In every instance where non-Sinhalese have appeared none-threatening, Sinhalese have welcomed them with open arms. In fact we must be one of the few cultures on this planet that has absorbed much of the cultures of invading forces and made those ours.

    As for your assertion that India is the next super power and that Sri Lankan politicians are corrupt – come on, you really think that Indian politicians are not corrupt? No question that India is booming economically, but don’t forget don’t forget the 900 million that is living in abject poverty and with no hope what so ever. That is not a superpower. Given India’s record in Punjab and now in the Kashmir and NE Tribal lands, what makes you think that if there was a serious separatist movement in Tamil Nadu that India will react differently?

    And what made you think that I am rooting for China? I merely said that China is the closest and safest ally that Sri Lanka has at this point in time. What that has to do with my choice of residence? We all know about China’s human rights record. Don’t forget that despite that record, US and the West have absolutely no reservations on trading and doing business with that country. In fact US so much in debt to China these days, one wonders when Obama will start taking orders from the Chinese government. So it is OK for the West to do business and interact with China whereas Sri Lanka cannot?

  448. Dear Ranjan,

    Could you briefly enumerate the benefits of holding onto North and East, the least fertile parts of Sri Lanka?. There are no major resources as far as I could see. Tell me what do you get from these regions?

    Only your politicians benefit by pitching one community against the other for political mileage. It is just power politics. Sinhalese will not disappear as India could have long invaded if they had wanted a long, long time ago.

  449. It is obvious u had not stepped to this island for couple of decades.

    I did not mean all is well and hunkey dory in SL. What I wrote was the present situ is much better and there is much to look forward to than a decade ago.

    Its apparent that you don;t want even to hear that.

  450. Manju,

    Benefits of holding or not holding to a part of a country is not tangible for most people. It is emotional. If we did make decisions based on a benefit cost analysis of the whole situation, Sinhalese would have given up N&E many years ago and Tamils would not dream of asking for a separate country.

    I am saying this again. It was not just Sinhala politicians that pitched one community against the other. No Sinhala politician that I know of did get on a public stage and talk about chasing Tamils from Sinhala lands or talk about making slippers out of Tamil skins, which is what one very prominent Tamil did. That is just one example. Now if that was not inflammatory talk, I don’t know what is. The same person returned back to Sri Lanka last year and was very apologetic about the whole business, and not a single Sinhala person that I know of asked that person to explain that statement.

    Both sides have made enormous mistakes over the years. Lets acknowledge them and move forward.

  451. Economically it is a losing battle to hold onto N&E. Militarily the government would be required to spend millions of dollars to maintain its presence. Nor does it make sense for the sake of peace as there would be continued disgruntlement among both communities. I do believe however both communities would benefit if Tamils are let loose to fend for themselves. Politicians of course would love it as they get to play the race card for ever. Live and let live.

  452. to give a complete picture about cleanest cities in South asia. Yes u are partly correct people do use toilets or the seashore and do not dirty the streets as some asian countries.

    However the dog shit/cow dung is visible every nook & corner of many a street. Is this an exception ?

  453. of course tamils are cursed in TN since they have got a woman as chief minister !!

    I think there was an old saying ‘don;t even live in a land where a woman rules !!

    To hell with TN politics.

  454. Ranjan, Toronto says:
    In fact they did not even support the number of budding black militant movements like Panthers because unlike our Tamil cousins, Blacks were wise enough to know what that could have done to their community.
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    wise is the thing missing in many Sri lankans be it tamil/sinhala politicians.
    I strongly feel the only difference between tamils & sinhalese is the language they speak… otherwise they act with same arrogance & pride, noooo not an ounce of wisdom.

    Look at Malaysia see how the Chinese prospered with communal suppression of ‘bumiputhra ‘ laws. Now lets talk about wisdom and action with wisdom.

  455. Guys I am back.

    Actually I must confess that I DO miss my friends and my honorable adversaries. I know all you guys mean well in what you say but though we differ in our own perceptive.

    Here is something to ponder:

    I do believe that those who are left behind that do not know whether their loved ones are dead or alive deserve to know what happened and close the chapter so that life can proceed.

    This might be one of the last blogs under this heading of DBSJ.

    So see you all in the next article of DBSJ.

    Cheers

  456. Simple question : Would any other nation have tolerated what Sri Lanka tolerated for almost 30 years? That is, having a terror group operate within its territory. Would the US or any other nation(even India) have tolerated Al Qeada operating from within with its own army, air force and navy? Sri Lanka as nation had no option but to negotiate with powerful nations into a compromise and in return those powerful nations released aid.

    As for the UN…that’s an organisation that needs major reform, if not it needs to be dissolves and another organisation to replace it with different principles and priorities. Rule of law must be respected and adhered by all. Western war criminals are also to be prosecuted for their wars that kill civilians, not just the tinpot dictators or autocrats of the 3rd world. Until this day, refuse to believe in the UN and the ICC in their global agenda. Let’s have fairplay and justice for all on an equal footing as we are in the 21st century and not the 19th when White Men ruled the world.

    Let’s cut the double standards to end naked hypocrisy in the global stage.

  457. “Sri Lanka does not need advice from outsiders”

    Any Sri Lankan knows that Sri Lanka always had its MAHATHANE MUTHTHAs.
    So it does not need any outsiders’ advice, but only their AID.

  458. Well said.

    But as of your comment regarding the UN and western countries “””Do we really need democratically elected governments in the middle east”””

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