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Hello Friends,

Compliments of the Season and Greetings for New Year.

A New Year dawns and the nation gears up to face what lies ahead.

In a reflective mood I went through some of the articles I had written in the past particularly about incidents of human rights violations in the North and East. One thing that struck me was that justice has not been done in most of those cases. No person has been penalised for these crimes so far. There is a climate of impunity

One such case where the families of victims are yet to get justice is the horrible incident in Trincomalee where five Tamil students were killed in cold blood by the beach on January 2nd 2006 allegedly by members of the security forces.

Adding insult to injury an orchestrated campaign was conducted by the state –controlled media to portray the innocent victims as members of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)

I was then a columnist for “The Sunday Leader” edited by my friend Lasantha Wickrematunga. I pursued independent inquiries from Toronto about what really had happened in Trincomalee and unearthed as much of the truth as possible within a few days relying mainly on the telephone.

My article when published in “The Sunday Leader” upset the powers that be as it went against the grain of State propaganda about the incident. This article is one that I am proud to have written as it was the first to expose the painful truth.

Later the University Teachers for Human Rights (Jaffna) published a detailed report on the entire incident.

I became the target of threats and intimidation as a result of the article. The only consolation was the sense of satisfaction one had in relating the truth and exposing falsehood.

I do not think any Editor other than Lasantha Wickrematunga would have carried the article in a newspaper published in Colombo. It was for this sense of fairplay and fearlessness that Lassie himself was killed on January 8th 2009.

I must also note with respect the Sinhala medical officer at the Trincomalee hospital who issued a just and true post-mortem report despite severe pressure. It was this that helped thwart the disinformation unleashed.

Five years have passed since the incident and the perpetrators have not been brought to justice.

I am reproducing here the original article under the same heading without any change for the benefit of readers – D.B.S. Jeyaraj

Terrible truth of the Trincomalee tragedy

By D.B.S. Jeyaraj

January second of the New Year 2006 was a Monday. It was 5.30 in the evening when 20 year old Manoharan Rajihar set off from home on St. Mary’s road in Trincomalee town. Both his father and mother were medical doctors jointly running the welcome Medical clinic. He told his parents that he would be going to worship at the Pillaiyar temple and the Pathragali Amman temple. Thereafter he said that he would chat for a while with friends at the beach and return.

Pathragali Amman temple, Trincomalee ~ pic: Drs.Sarajevo

One of his friends, now an undergraduate at the engineering faculty in Moratuwa university had come home for the new year and was scheduled to go back the following day. Rajihar said he would return home by 7. 30 pm.

Trincomalee had been tensed up for quite a while. There had been much violence along with hartals paralysing normal life. Police and security personnel along with civilians had been targeted. The civilian killings and in some cases reprisal killings cut across ethnic barriers.

Though Trincomalee was bustling actively after many years of the ceasefire the atmosphere had deteriorated in recent times. Life had not been the same after a large Buddha statue was installed overnight near the Central bus stand and market.Tamil organizations had opposed this.

Hartals were staged. It was ruled by the lower courts that the statue was illegally installed on Urban Council property. In spite of the public opposition and court directive the statue remains where it was with massive security provided.

The protests over the statues had resulted in a lot of additional security personnel being deployed in Trincomalee. This brought about another wave of protests against the increased security presence. With LTTE backed Tamil resurgence movements stepping up demonstrations the situation became worse.

Sporadic violence continued. An attack on the security personnel brought about reprisals on Tamil civilians. In some cases “unknown” people killed Sinhala and Tamil civilians.It was tit for tat. For instance when a Sinhala businessman was killed on Dec 24th two Tamil trishaw drivers were killed on Dec 26th.

Against this backdrop people seldom ventured out of their homes after dusk.

Rajihar’s parents too were concerned about their son staying out till dark.

But they were not unduly worried because they knew their son was a decent, level – headed boy. He was very punctual and if he said he would be back at 7. 30 they knew he would keep his word. Besides the place he was going to was not very far from home. Also they knew his friends. All of them were quiet, well – behaved youths with little interest in politics let alone tiger politics. They were youths with glowing , dreams of a bright future. The parents had no worries about their son or his friends getting mixed up with the LTTE.

Rajihar was the third in a family of six children. The eldest was a girl now married and settled in Britain. The next was a son. There were three younger brothers. An old student of Sri Koneswarar Hindu College Rajihar had completed his AL’s. He was an outstanding sportsman excelling in Table tennis and Chess. Rajihar was the secretary of the Trinco Table Tennis Association. He had even conducted training sessions in TT for the security force recreation. Rajihar had been thoroughly vetted and given a military approved identity card. The military ID is the one respected by all security personnel.

Apart from this the Manoharans were familiar with many security officials including naval officers who had obtained treatment at the clinic. All this gave the family a sense of security in troubled times. Being doctors the parents were after all in the upper strata of Trincomalee society. The parents had also bought Rajihar a cellular phone as a precaution. He had strict instructions to call and keep them informed if he was getting late or held up anywhere.Rajihar left home happily for his rendezvous with friends blissfully unaware of the fate awaiting him.

Seven young men all of them born in the year 1985 gathered that evening at the Dutch Bay beach. The spot was near the Gandhi statue roundabout where the Dockyard road and Koneswarar or Fort Frederick road intersected.. There was an important checkpost manned by navy. army and Police personnel close by. Actually there were three more checkposts manned by naval personnel within a 100 metre radius. There was also a small boutique selling provisions.

There were stone benches on the beach front where people sat and took in the sea breeze. The seven friends were now seated on those benches chatting gaily. They had been frisked and cleared at the checkpost before coming to the spot.They arrived on four cycles and a motor cycle with two riding” doubles”. Six of the friends were alumni of Sri Koneswara Hindu College. One was an old boy of St. Joseph’s College. The key figure in the group was Thangathurai Sivanantha, the Moratuwa campus undergrad. He had come home on Dec 31st and was returning on Jan 3rd. The seaside chit – chat was like a send off to Sivanantha.

All of them had completed their A levels in 2004/5. Apart from Sivanantha another too had gained entry to Katubedde. The others too were hopeful of higher education or at least a good job in Colombo. Some had ideas of going abroad. They were good all round students in both studies and extra – curricular activities. They were computer proficient too.Time just flew as the friends swapped stories and teased each other in all good fun.

It was about 7.15 when a green three – wheeler coming along Dockyard road slowed down. A grenade was thrown from the vehicle. It exploded yards away from where the seven friends were seated. The three – wheeler then sped away on Koneswara road towards the Fort. The dazed friends realised the situation was taking a turn for the worse and cut short their conversation. They speedily mounted their cycles and motor cycle and prepared to get away from the spot. That was not to be!

Almost as if on cue a security force truck trundled in quickly. Instead of giving chase to the three- wheeler the occupants of the truck zoomed in on the seven Tamil youths. They surrounded them and forced them to kneel down. Rajihar took out his mobile phone and called his father Dr. Kasipillai Manoharan. The call was not answered. Rajihar however left a quick message saying they were being made to kneel down by security forces. The phone was snatched away by one of the assailants.

They started checking their ID cards. Thereafter they began assaulting them. They were then put aboard the truck and assaulted again and again. Their explanations and protests were ignored.

At this point some more security vehicles arrived. There was excite discussion in Sinhala among the new and old arrivals. The youths could only hear the noise. Suddenly they were kicked and pushed out of the truck. Even as they fell they found that the entire area was now pitch dark. The lights in the vicinity had been turned off. The youths were now hit again and forced to kneel down again.

After some more bickering among themselves one group of security personnel began leaving the spot. It was still dark and lights were out. Only the vehicle lights tore through the darkness of the night. After one group of security men left the other group began getting really mean.

Then it became really terrible.

After some more rounds of assaulting the youths were forced to kneel down again. Firearms were taken out and brandished. The youths were told that they were going to be killed as a warning to the tigers in Trincomalee. The innocent youths began wailing and pleading. Their pathetic cries were heard far and wide.

Listening to the faintly audible cries was Dr. Manoharan. Finding that he had missed a call Rajihar’s father had checked the phone to find it was from his son. Thoroughly agitated Dr. Manoharan began calling his son’s cell again and again and again. There was no answer. Extremely perturbed the father then mounted his scooter and set off for the spot on the beach where his son said he was going to. Besides it was close to the Amman temple too.

When Dr. Manoharan came near the spot he found all lights including street lights were turned off and darkness all around. He was shocked to find that security personnel had sealed off the particular area and were refusing to let anyone go through. Upon inquiring he was told that some tigers had attacked the security forces and no one would be allowed to pass. He was curtly ordered to turn back. Manoharan refused saying his son was in trouble and that he would not go back without him.

As Dr. Manoharan stayed put stubbornly despite the danger he heard the cries of the youths pleading with the assailants. He thought he recognized his son’s voice among them. He kept on pleading with those at the checkpost to let him through. The personnel refused but were becoming increasingly nervous and jittery. And then rang out the shots followed by the screams. More gunfire and more screams. It took just four minutes from 7. 51 to 7.55 pm. A few minutes later an explosion was heard and then it was all over.

After playing cat and mouse for a while the assassins now began firing. Two of the youths were shot behind the ear. One was shot in the back of the head. The other four then scrambled to their feet and made a desperate attempt to escape by running away. They were mowed down by gunfire. They were shot in the chest, abdomen, shoulders, thighs etc and collapsed. A little while after the firing was over two grenades were thrown at the still bodies. One exploded but the other proved a dud.

The assassins were in no mood to take their victims to hospital. They delayed for nearly half an hour. The calculated delay presumably was to let the youths bleed to certain death. Finally an ambulance was called and even the lights came on “miraculously”.

Dr. Manoharan raced to the Trincomalee hospital. His heart leapt when told that two of the youths were alive still. His heart sank when he found that his son was not in the Intensive Care Unit. Later he was allowed to check out the morgue where he found his favourite son lying dead. He broke down and wept.

News began spreading and the parents of the victims began converging at the hospital notwithstanding the security situation. Their long night of sorrow was made unbearable by the deliberate attempt to twist the truth.

The security forces who had brought in the youths to the hospital had made a Police entry that some tigers plotting to attack the security forces had suffered casualties due to some grenades exploding accidentally.

This then was the version hastily disseminated by the security propagandists. Given the tense situation in Trincomalee and the vain boasts of the LTTE that the people were rising up against the armed forces there were many takers for this story. Many newspapers and news agencies also carried the security version initially. The defence ministry spokesperson as well as other army and Police officials also stood by this story.

The truth however became known when the post – mortem and judicial inquiry was conducted. The Trincomalee Judicial Medical Officer Dr. Gamini Gunatunga conducted the post – mortem and ruled that all five dead victims had died due to gunshot injuries. Three had died of head injuries while the other two had succumbed to abdomen and chest injuries. The JMO however observed that some of the victims had injuries other than gunshot wounds too. But the fatal ones were from gunshots.

With the JMO report the explanation provided by the security forces was blown to smithereens. The Trincomalee Magistrate Mr. V. Ramakamalan recorded an interim verdict of gunshot injuries and instructed the bodies be handed over to the families. But there was a hitch. The Police at the hospital refused to release the bodies. They insisted that the parents sign letters accepting that their children were tigers. Otherwise the bodies would not be handed over they threatened.

The parents of the victims however were not prepared to do that. They had lost their innocent children. They were not prepared to sacrifice their reputations. They were not prepared to let them be stigmatised as “terrorists” when they were not. They simply refused to budge.

One parent said “if you dont give the body I will have a funeral with an empty coffin and a picture of my son but I will never admit to this untruth of calling my son a terrorist. I have lost my son but I wont lose his honour”. TNA Parliamentarian from Trincomalee district Thurairatnasingham also arrived at the hospital and exerted pressure. Finally the cops relented and the bodies were released without any letters being signed.

Trincomalee was overwhelmed with sorrow. On the 3rd there was a spontaneous closure of schools and boycott of classes by students. Students of all communities and faiths expressed solidarity with the victims. Realising the public mood was turning bitter the authorities withdrew security personnel from checkposts and sentry points in the Tamil neighbourhoods of Trincomalee. Some enraged people destroyed a few of these deserted places.

On the following more organized efforts were made by Tamil youths to continue the hartal. The element of genuine spontaneity prevalent on the first day was lost.

On Wednesday Jan 4th the bodies of the five victims were lying in their respective homes. They were all born in the same year on different dates.

They had schooled together and now had died on the same date.

Shanmugarajah Gajendran born on 16th September was living on Vidyalayam lane; Lohitharaja Rohan born on 07th April was from Sivan Kovil road;
Thangathurai Sivanantha born on 06th April was a resident of Vanniya lane; Yogaraja Hemachandran born on 04th March lived in Customs street; Manoharan Rajihar born on the 22nd of September lived in St, Mary’s road.

Trincomalee town was grief stricken. People flocked to the houses of the victims. Again those condoling with the families were not Tamils alone but many Sinhala and Muslim families. Everyone knew what had really happened and of the innocence of the victims. The student population turned up in large numbers. The certificates, cups and medals won by the victims were laid out by the coffins.

On Thursday the 5th of January the funeral was held at the Srikonewara Hindu College generally known as Trinco Hindu. The institution had a grand tradition of over a hundred years. Among its distinguished former Principals was the great Tamil scholar Swamy Vipulananda who went on to become the first Tamil professor of Annamalai University in Tamil Nadu.

The current principal was Mr. M. Rajaratnam. He was distraught by the developments. A special dais was constructed on the day of the final farewell at the College grounds. The bodies were brought in individual processions to the College. Religious leaders of the Hindu, Christian and Islamic faiths addressed the mourners. Student representatives and Principal Rajaratnam also made speeches. They were emotional but eloquent. One thing rankling was the unjust charge that the victims were tigers. Every speaker refuted the accusation and condemned those responsible.

Finally the five bodies were taken in procession through the streets of Trincomalee to the Hindu burial grounds near Ehamparam road. Once again a few checkposts were attacked on the way. Security personnel were pointedly absent. At Madathady some lumpen elements close to the JVP started throwing stones. They were quickly checked by the Police providing security.

Trincomalee had not seen such a large funeral procession after the one for former Federal Party MP Rajavarothayam.

After last rites were performed the five friends, inseparable in life and in death, were laid to rest.

Meanwhile the Trincomalee magistrate began his judicial inquiry. He spoke to the two youths receiving treatment at the ICU. One was Yogarajah Poongulalon and the other Pararajasingham Kokulraj. Though conscious the condition of one has not passed the critical stage yet. Dr. Kasipillai Manoharan and the woman lawyer Subashini Chitravelu also made statements before the magistrate. Subashini is the sister of Mrs. Thangathurai the mother of Sivananda the Moratuwa undergrad.

Incidently the Tamil students at Moratuwa Varsity wanted to mourn the death of their fellow undergrad but were fearful because he had been branded a tiger terrorist. But thanks to the praiseworthy professionalism of Dr. Gamini Gunatunga an ethnic Sinhala person the attempt to frame the victims as tigers was failing. The security propagandists who said the grenades had exploded accidently revised their position and said now that there was a shoot – out.

Slowly, open minded people were beginning to realise the terrible truth behind the Trincomalee tragedy. Pressure began mounting on the Government with even Amnesty International commenting on it. A TNA delegation made out a strong case in a meeting with Mahinda Rajapakse.

The President pledged firmly that he would probe the incident and punish the culprits.

On the other hand attempts were being made to suppress the truth too.

The witnesses who testified at the inquiry were subject to several threatening calls in Sinhala. The families of the victims were also intimidated. They also began suspecting that they were being watched.

The JVP sponsored hartal in Trincomalee included a new demand that no inquiry should be held into the Trincomalee deaths. Interested parties were also pressuring the President to let go or face demoralization among the forces.

Mahinda Rajapakse faces a difficult situation. He is a man who has championed human rights for decades. As he himself said once “Mahinda is a man of human rights”. Now he is challenged to prove that his commitment to human rights and justice is non – negotiable. Mahinda also announced after his victory that henceforth he would not belong to any ethnicity or group in the discharge of his duties. The time has now come for Mahinda to prove his mettle.

President Rajapakse must realise that protecting the riff – raff in the armed forces would not raise its morale. Punishing the guilty, criminal elements would not de – moralise the armed forces. On the contrary every self – respecting member of the armed forces would only be happy that these vermin bringing the entire security forces to disrepute are identified and punished. The onus then is on Mahinda the man of human rights to take the correct decision.

The entire truth behind the terrible tragedy in Trincomalee can be uncovered only through a genuine inquiry. For this the two injured youths, families of the victims and other knowldegeable people have to be protected. Moreover the guilty ones should not only be identified but penalised effectively.

This takes moral and political courage but let us hope that the “Weeraketiya Sinhaya” has what it takes.All fair minded Sinhala people who comprise the silent majority in the Country will definitely support him.

Let me conclude with an excerpt from an editorial in “The Island” on the
subject.

“President Mahinda Rajapakse has rightly ordered a probe into the incident. And no stone should be left unturned in getting at the truth. He will have to ensure that the probe will be thorough and independent. If any members of the armed forces are found to have had a hand in the deaths of the students, they should be brought to justice irrespective of position. Let the armed forces be told in no uncertain terms that we don’t need them to unleash terror: the LTTE is doing it much better than anyone else. The raison d’etre of the Security Forces is to ensure the security of the citizenry and not to engage in wanton killings.

The memories of the Bindunuwewa massacre are still fresh in the minds of the Tamil community as well as that of every right thinking man and woman irrespective of ethnicity. Nothing hurts a parent more than the fact that the killers of his or her child have got away with it.

Children, or all civilians for that matter, must be free from harm, be it in the South, the North, the East or the West, especially during a truce. Enough of them have already perished in two insurrections in the South and in the on-going conflict in the North and the East.

We have no way of disciplining a terror outfit or teaching it the value of human life. But that we can do to the armed forces and this is why probes into allegations of criminal activity by the security personnel are necessary”

DBS Jeyaraj can be reached at dbsjeyaraj@yahoo.com

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275 Comments

  1. Re lawlessness and impunity
    President Rajapakse has earned the confidence of a vast majority of Sri Lankans by winning the war against the LTTE.
    He needs to now win the peace if he is to be remembered as a great man.
    He will have to restore justice and fair play. An impartial and strong Police force with an independent and impartial judiciary and unfettered fearless journalism must be allowed to triumph over intimidation,abductions and violence and killings. These foerces of evil must be annihilated with the same strength and purpose that was needed to eliminate the LTTE. It is then only, we will be free of terrorism.
    Hope springs eternal in the human breast.
    Can he do it? Yes he can!. Oh yes he can.!
    We await with abated breath.- from An Optimist in human gooodness.

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    Dear DBS could you please not divilge my name and e-mail address.

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    I’ve removed your name &mail……..DBSJ

  2. What a sad story. I am sure that there were many instances like this during the last 30 years where inocent victims were branded by various parties as “enemies” and killed or disappeared.

    Nothing can bring back those kids, but one hopes that one day justice will be done. I think the most important action that has to be taken is to ensure nothing like this will happen again.

  3. I’m sure Mahinda’s ‘Lessons Learned for Peace and Reconciliation Commission’ is looking into this.

  4. I logged on to your site to read the comments and found this article Mr.Jeyaraj

    I recall having read it when originally published but it was like fresh one while reading

    A glaring instance of justice being denied in a climate of impunity

    The UTHR report identified a senior Police official Kapila Jayasekera as being responsible but no action was taken and instead he was promoted

    What a sad story!

  5. One of the victims was my cousin brother. We were shattered then. My uncle and aunt havent recovered still.

    I was a schoolgirl when this happened and my English was not very good.

    But I tried hard to read your article Mr.Jeyaraj then.It was first big English newspaper article I read. It made me happy and sad. Happy that someone had written truth and sad over the cruel death

    After that our family regularly bought Sunday Leader to read your articles. I used to read each article you wrote with difficulty but slowly my English improved. Now I am quite fluent in English and able to do higher studies in English medium

    I continue to read you and now use the internet to do so

    Thank you for your writing.Keep writing for truth and justice.May God bless you

    Thank You Geetha. May God bless you and all our suffering people…….DBSJ

  6. I am surprised and happy to read this. I was told by some Tamils in London that you are a govt stooge. This article shows that you have been boldly critical of the govt when necessary

    Thanks for publishing it. This opened my eyes about you and I googled and came across more of your articles .I read some of them and discovered that those Tamils in London who told me about you have simply slandered you for their own reasons

  7. Genocide of Tamils and Sinhalasiation of Srilanka is the ulterior motif of SLFP from its foundation by SWRD and Rajapakse’s father. UNP for political reasons taking it up as well .

    The Trincomale incident is no fault of the military personal.
    It is simply the way they were trained.
    They are innocent tools like innocent youths who died.

    The fault lies with the state.
    Its constitution.
    I do not believe for a second that any inquiry would correct this mind set.
    Punishment very rarely works.
    That is why developed countries are focussing on rehabilitation
    Anti Tamil mind set should go away that is the only solution for peaceful Srilanka (if anyone wants it!)
    This means rehabilitating the minds of Srilankans.

    Only possible route would be start from school curriculum to educate human rights.
    Even that would be a day dream with active presence and promotion of Mahavamsa education which promotes killings of Tamils as duty to save Srilanka.

  8. அடிக்கு மேல் அடி அடித்தால் அம்மியும் நகரும். ஆனால் ….
    5 years or more, will there ever be justice? God Help.

  9. This is one of DBS’s most painful articles, the other one is about the kidnap, gang rape and slaughter of TRO workers in Batticaloa. These articles are illustrations of master piece of investigative journalism.

    When a sovereign state goes out of its way to cover up crimes as this nature,,,I wonder whether this nation is destined for self-destruction of its nationhood.

    Thank you, DBS

  10. Five innocent lives were nipped in the bud even before they could blossom and not a single human beast ever was rewarded for his ghastly deeds as the other sissies in uniform who sent the 17 aid workers for the French NGO.

    These 22 and the numerous other thousands who have had the pleasure of meeting their maker have to be compensated by having their assassins identified and punished but this will be only a dream as they will be protected by the sarong clad johhnies who will keep these water pistol carrying sissies well cared and protected.

    Being become a disabled person in the recent past my thoughts are always with the thousands and thousands who have become maimed all because they were born as a Tamil keep haunting me,in my case I am lucky that I am in Australia where I am provided with the best care that one could get. These thousands are not lucky at all.

    There has to be justice done for these five young boys and the many other thousands who have had the pleasure of becoming the guests of these gun carrying sissies in uniform. God bless their souls. A j.

  11. Mr. DBS Jeyaraj

    Thank you for this. One of the victims was my nephew. I know the grief we felt at their deaths and about the way they were maligned as LTTE by the state media.

    Your article in English in a national Newspaper was like a bright light shining in the dark then. You will not know the relief I felt when reading it that there is one person out there in Canada to write the truth about what happened in Trincomalee.I made photo copies of article and gave to lot of my non – Tamil friends then

    The family of my nephew were harassed and frightened by the security forces after the incident that they packed up and left

    Yes Mr.Jeyaraj as you said we wait for justice still

  12. Thankyou again Mr Dbsj,
    You are a briiliant tamil showing the world again and again sinhala barbarism never going to let tamils live in their own home peacefully. So many things happening in our beloved land, sinhalavan never going to change. Most tamils fooled by praba who misleaded by appapillai amirthalingam.
    WE TAMILS PAYING A HIGH PRICE, HOPE ONE DAY WILL CHANGE, WE WILL WAIT.

  13. This article invokes memories of your past articles DBS when the war was on

    Those days you were the only journalist writing about brutal incidents like this and keeping us informed. We used to read you constantly as you were a shining beacon then

    With the end of the war I thought incidents like this will have stopped but recent events show that they may repeat again

    I think the time is coming when DBS Jeyaraj will have to write about human rights violations again instead of promoting peace and ethnic amity

  14. And then they will all go to temple and listen to pirith, in this land of the Buddha.

    I am glad that DBS keeps these issues on the boil.

    The killers and their apologists want to bury their crimes under the cloak of patriotism, will be listening to pirith and talking about their 2500 years of their great history, until they have to run out of London leaving their bags behind.

  15. Tamil people in Trincomalee suffered a lot in past and lots of incidents like this happened but for many of us this sad incident is still living in our memory

    May all the poor souls attain Moksha

  16. Jeyaraj annai

    I forgot to say Thank you for writing about this incident then and for publishing now

    Your article then was made into lots of copies and distributed all over town

    I still have a copy

  17. Two boys who got killed in this my classmates and freinds. I so sad then and even now. all of us very worried and afraid after this. many like me left trinco after this.reading this makes me sad but I am glad Jeyaraj annan wrote this

    I will never forget them both

  18. If Mahinda was/is clever enough, he would have understood such deeds are sabotage within by his detractors. Even if he did not care about the killings, he should have punish the culprits for puting him in a difficult position.

    But then, again it may not be in his nature. Even today he can not do anything about Dr Mervin who prtends his thuggery is MR’s contract. Or may be it is ?

  19. Sad story Mr DBS J , Mr Lasantha Wickramatunges 2nd death annivesary is comming with no answers from GOSL , are you going to write a article about him Mr Jeyaraj.

  20. Thanks for writing this then DBS and highlighting the truth

    thanks for posting it now DBS to make us remember that in a continuing climate of impunity such incidents can keep on happening

  21. These coward acts of members of armed forces were the main reason for tamil people’s uprising in recent history. There were some other reasons for the struggle but these headless, heartless security personnal should be responsible for turning the situation bad to worse. You guys can not expect justice from these swollen head big man.No light at the end of the tunnel except nonviolant political struggle is the hope.

  22. Comment No !5. Dushy Ranetunga,

    What a pathetic comment.

    When people who directly or indirectly affected by this sad and unfortunate incident where the young lives of 5 people were taken away discuss the issues relevant to the incident in a civilized manner, , this bloke shoots a barb at the Buddha, Sanga.and the Dharma.

    Is this the level of sophistication of these people who claim to be superior to fellow Srtilankans?

    Is this the cultural superiority that they have acquired living in the land of culture and etiquette?

  23. Thanks for republishing this above article. It is good to remind the community of the ‘state of impunity’ that prevails in the country.

    Rajapaksha said many times at different occasions that the Sri Lankan Security Forces never killed a civilian in their life. He is a leader and holds a responsible position, tells lies so boldly. He is not at all worried about it! It is so discouraging.

    Please permit me to share an incident that happened in my own life. I was in Jaffna during the miltary operation in 1995 that lasted for 47 days. I escaped death three times.

    The military offensive came to an end on the third of December 1995, the 47th day of the offensive.

    A few days after the conclusion of the military operation the following incident happened. There was watcher for the Catholic Bishop’s House on the Cathedral Road, Jaffna.. He is from Tholagatty (now occupied by the military), Vasavilan.

    An elderly person, who had suffered so much because of the military offensive, was dying at the Cathedral road, two houses from the main gate of the Bishop’s House.. He heard the cry of the people. Around 2:00 am he took a hurricane lamp (only light we had in Jaffna at tht time) and walked to the house from where the cry came.

    As he stepped out on the road, he was fired at and was severely wounded. He pleaded for help and nobody came to help him except being watched by a neighbour from his house. He was bleeding.

    Fortunately he did not die. Then the military realized that they had shot an innocent person. It was around 5:00 am, an army ambulance came and took him.

    As soon it was dawned, the man who saw him being shot, informed the priests at the Bishop’s house. I too joined the priests to look for him. We went to the general hospital and other places where medical facilities were available.. He was not to be found any where.

    Around 8:00 am the innocent Samaritan, now wounded severely, was brought to the Bishop’s house.

    A senior police offer also appeared at that time and asked what had happened to employee of the Bishop’s House. A military official who brought the wounded ,was telling the police officer nothing but untruth about this case.

    As an observer, I was more than shocked how ‘truth’ had also become also a victim along with the employee of the Bishop’s House.

    The culture of impunity is strongly encouraged by the politicians beginging from the President himself. Be sure it will boomerang on them soon!

    The true reconciliation has to be truthful.

    The Sinhala government is not at all ‘truthful’ even about the ‘rights of the minorities’ in the country.

    We need more truthful leaders in our country! Rajapaksha is not the best choice for this.

    Dr. Kathir

  24. This is a terrible crime and an appalling waste of 5 young lives, who could have gone on to do so much.

    My sympathies to the families. They deserve justice, and for their minds to achieve some semblance of peace.

    There is nothing to be gained by continuing to sweep crimes such as these under the carpet.

    The government by continuing to avoid bringing the culprits to justice, are guilty be association.

    This is an incident for which a section of the armed forces were clearly responsible. If I remember correctly the UTHR article goes as far as to name those responsible for this crime.

    I am certain it is also probably common knowledge among the locals in Trincomalee who are the responsible parties.

    no excuses after 5 years if there is no movement to investigate and prosecute those responsible.

    The government may or may not be responsible for this crime, but they certainly are culpable of not pursuing justice. I condemn the government on these grounds and MR for not carrying out what was promised. The buck definitely stops with the president on this one.

    One wonders why our useless opposition do not bring up issues such as this in parliament.

    such as waste of such promising young lives.

  25. These are crimes that cry out to the heavens. I can well imagine the pain of the family members and other associates of these students. Though from a different community and part of this country, I too have sat many a time on these very stone benches facing Dutch Bay as a youth not very long ago and enjoyed the peace and conviviality of this place. The fate of these youths, snatched almost from their doorstep, is heartrending. The fact that justice has not been done to the perpetrators even now should not surprise us. Justice & the other tenets of good governance must be practiced and enforced from the top, otherwise it will not work. It is indeed as simple as that ! As it stands, family and all those who mourn, not just for this outrage, but also for the many other tragedies of our recent past should take comfort in the fact that Justice, true Justice will come, sometimes sooner than expected.

  26. Thank you DBS for your long,dedicated commitment to truth and exposure of human rights violations by both sides

  27. It is really an unfortunate incident and there’s a big cruelty in the part of armed forces. At the same time those youth were in the wrong place at the wrong time, i feel.

    This wasn’t the first or last instance that LTTE used civilians as a shield. What was the reason for whoever came in that threewheeler to explode a grenade? Were there armed forces members around?? According to the article armed forces have got it mixed up than puprosely did it.

    However the way those soldiers acted is not approvable. They should have definetely had the youth arrested for further investigations, but not killed them.

    How many times these happened in the south in 1988-89?? Even without any provocations or incident in the close vicinity??? This is the nature of a civil war, anti terrorist militory actions. No army in the world had a clean record of handling these types.

    People have enough reasons to hate LTTE than ever before. It’s LTTE which used all kinds of disguises to carry out attacks on forces.. This is one painful result of that bloody terrorism.

  28. # 15 Dushy Ranetunge

    You seem to be so much hatred at buddhism and the history of SL and also frustrated about LTTE NOT being albe to achieve Eelam.

    # 25 Dr. Kathir

    No sane person would ever come out to the road at that time of the night having experienced a big time civil war, no matter how louder the neighbours would cry. If someone does it then he/she would be ready to go with the result of doing so.

    I’m pretty sure curfew must had been imposed on that particular day, so Doctor do you still think that preist’s aide did the right/sensible thing..??? Why blame forces for someone else’s stupidity…?? you should have been in the army to understand what kind of orders they follow; what kind of difficulties they carry in a battle time.

  29. My heartfelt condolences to the families of these youth who lost their lives that day. What else can you tell them? It is a grief only known to people who have lost their loved ones in such terrible circumstances.

    President Rajapaksa should have and hopefully must now open up an inquiry into this incident and all other incidents where human life was treated so shabbily and destroyed without a second thought. Letting such murderers go free is not only an injustice to the dead but a grave danger to the living too.
    So, a police officer (Kapila Jayasekera, according to the comment 4) was identified was he? No surprise there. I’m a sinhalese, yet I dislike the SL police. Most of them are no better than criminals themselves. Their inhumane treatment extends to all ethnic groups in SL, maybe with the Tamils copping it more due to the LTTE issue.
    Also, there is nothing surprising about the JVP being behind all the anti-investigation protests. They need to be kicked out of the political arena for good.
    I’m grateful for Mahinda Rajapakse for getting rid of the LTTE, but oh how I wish for a leader with a backbone and a human heart to rule over SL now.

  30. Murder was committed in the name of Patriotism. The fingers that pulled the trigger did so without verifying the facts and perhaps at the command of a senior officer. These were our youth, undefended and unarmed, gunned down in daylight and at point blank range. Innocent lives were slaughtered in the name of Sri Lanka our country.
    The President is fully aware of those who committed this gruesome murder. Yet he remains silent in order that he should not offend the morale of the armed forces.
    The question to the President is ‘Do we live by principles ?’ or do we ‘Sacrifice principles in the name of Country?’. Is this inaction on the part of our President and armed forces justifiable and under what logic and reasoning?

  31. “Mahinda Rajapakse faces a difficult situation. He is a man who has championed human rights for decades. As he himself said once “Mahinda is a man of human rights”. Now he is challenged to prove that his commitment to human rights and justice is non – negotiable. Mahinda also announced after his victory that henceforth he would not belong to any ethnicity or group in the discharge of his duties. The time has now come for Mahinda to prove his mettle.”

    Dear DBS, has human rights mahinda since proved his ‘mettle’? im thinking especially of 2009 and beyond.

  32. Sad. Very very sad. Reminds me of the football team of Thurston College who were targeted by the LTTE at Port railway station.

  33. I do agree with that innocent student been killed by forces or other group.
    But pointing the finger right on diction action to be taken by whom responsible but in the past LTTE and forces must have been killed thousand of civilians ho knows the numbers of it now people should understand what has happened in the past and to live in Pease and harmony.
    Those whom had don the discrimination to the nation of sri lanka will still be a live they will regrets one day in there life but it is to late the foolish sinhala and tamils to do understand there issues work to gather how we can having no difference between them and no discrimination among this two parties.
    One other thing is people never get between politicians and coral each other learn to live like a one family in that peculiar day we can say it is a day of peace.
    Thanks.

  34. Dushy Renathunga ,
    How about killing sinhala boys in Fort railway station by blasting a suicide bomber killing 10 or 12 D.S . sport team on the spot and after the blast the persons who plan and guide the bomber going to Kovil or church and pray.

  35. There was a man called Prabhakaran, he was also very innocent according to many human rights organisations When he violated everybody’s rights did they cry foul?

  36. dear DBsj, every thing going settled,when war criminal brought in courts by UN, or ridoff them by people,when happen to MR son,he will realise, laughable situation in sri lankan media minister need some training other wise all sri lankan will bury their heads into sand, he challange the UN,it means fool or poor skill in this country.as we said true never die.and you jeyaraj still not learn lesson?everyone know the incident how twist,their family rich and support let not accept as tiger, like wise 100 thousand twist by army and STF.one day they will have to answer this all,

  37. Dear DBS

    Since you did not see any of these things happening how dare you blame the security forces?

    Your ball by ball commentary may be interesting to read and it was indeed a good ‘story ‘.

    As far as I know you were in Canada at the time of this alleged killings by the security forces.So accept for LTTE sympathizers no right thinking people will believe this story.You have only lost your credibility by writing reports based on mere speculation and imagination

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Why did the commission appointed by Mahinda delve into this issue if it is only my imagination and speculation? Why did the UTHR issue an exhaustive report into the incident? Why did reputed organizations like HRW, Amnesty and ICG issue statements into this incident?

    By the way when I exposed LTTE crimes and atrocities from Canada I was welcomed but when I expose brutality of sections of the security forces from Canada I am criticised. Why?

    Let me remind you once again that Seymour Hersh uncovered the MY Lai massacre by US forces in Vietnam while being in the US without going to Vietnam

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  40. In a civil war this type of things invariably happens any where in the World in more numbers than in Sri Lanka. The people who hare responsible are the ones who started this by making flase claims and trying to grab more than what they deserve. Later these hypocrits and criminals called it their aspirations.

  41. THIS WOULD BE A GOOD EYR OPENER TO THE SO CALLED ”TRUTH AND RECONSILATION COMMISSION”

    EVEN MR. BAN Q WOULD BE MORE THAN SURPRISED ABOUT THIS.

  42. The year 2011 is with us. Any new year will not change the lives of the oppressed Tamils and prevent genocide unless Tamils work with political wisdom to achieve independence .

    Unitedly, as they are now, Tamils must work to losen the bonds of hardship and undo the burdens imposed on them by the Government of Sri Lanka(GOSL) for decades. Tamils must break the yoke put on them and work tirelessly for the oppression to cease.

    Tamils are not and will not be ashamed to say that they are persecuted by the Sinhalese. It is the Sinhalese who would be ashamed to realise that they oppress the human kind and are not fit to live in this world.

    The GOSL for decades had and will have Tamil lapdogs, poodles and cronies to divide and rule us. The GOSL will be untruthful as usual and use cheating as never before, as the genocide they carry out gets more and more exposed daily internationally.

    The GOSL will use “development” to cover up its misdeeds against Tamils as it is happening in Sudan now. But it will fail miserably.

    The year 2011 will be an year of diisgrace for the past deeds of the Sinhalese against the Tamils and Tamils will not allow a single stone unturned to bring to justice the criminals of genocide.

    This is how I forsee the year 2011 and feel what the Tamils must do.

  43. Sri Lankans must be sick and tired of DBS Jayaraj’s nonsense, this guy is sitting in canada and writing pure rubbish.

  44. DBJ,
    I admire your courage for exposing it then and now again.

    Here is the problem. What do we tell all the mothers and fathers (or kids) of the sinhala people who were killed by LTTE just because they were sinhalese? The society has a tendency to focus just omn the crime committed by the state. So only 5 students or 17 workers get attention. The point is, other crimes are equally bad. Diaspora should be bear responsibility for funding such acts as much as the state government

  45. Hi DBSJ

    It was very sad indeed. Five innocent tamil youth had paid the price because of the brutual civil war. Even though the war was over, but the killing still continues.

    You may write an article about the recent murder in Jaffna so that peopleknow the truth. Thanks

  46. Luckily for all Sri Lankans Mahinda Rajapakse, adopted to the changing circumstances in double quick time with family to support his hand. It is important to remember President Chandrika too had family support, but she could not help us achieve peace.

    There were no capable men after LTTE wiped out leaders such as President Premadasa, Niranjan W., Lalith and Gaminee.

    Mahinda’s mandate from country was to bring peace. If not for Mahinda Maha Rajano, today DBSJ would be discussing violence at Eelam – Sri Lanka border.

  47. When this happened I have commented that Government should investigate fully and punish those involved. To Geetha – I am so sorry this happened to your family. To Dr Kumarakuru – This is nothing to do with Genocide of Tamils. Please stop saying those things because that is not true. There is no genocide towards Tamils by Sinhalese. As you may perhaps know there are more than 10000 Sinhalese youths were killed in 1988-1989 period and no inquiries were made. Even in Amibilipitiya Massacre investigation no one was punished (Conducted when Chandrika was in power). No Lasantha, No Amnesty was there although Mahinda Rajapaksha tried. Ball was on the other court then.  This impunity affects not only Tamils but everybody in Sri Lanka. When Wijeweera and Prabhakaran divided Sri Lankans to fight their respective nationalistic causes this is what happened. We lost the ability to fight against these crimes together ,  fight against the state’s security apparatus  together instead blaming each other. Let’s force government do the investigation on all disapapearances on both communities and punish all whether they are in opposition or in government.

  48. We do not beleive everything what DBS says or write. But this story by DBS is true because I am from Trinco and was there when all this happened

  49. DBS

    Its was a timely article that assembled all tricky evidence that enlightened the public how a few misguided soldiers law unto their hands however helped in a subtle manner finally ended the terror of a section of the misguided Tamil society who thought that they could achieve myth based rights through the power of bullet.

    This should not demean the quality of warfare that was employed by the majority of the armed services personnel of Sri Lanka who gave us a land free of suicide bomber free land to live with no fear.

    Dushy Ranetunge need not drag the Buddha Dhamma because its not those who take cover on the spirituality to gloss over their sins. Lets talk about Rajpaksa tyranny prevailing in the post war Lanka and how best we could evolve the hard earned freedom from fear into a prosperous society for all.

    We also need not talk about the dead characters like Lasantha whose past we had better left them as they are honoring the ethics of not digging the anti social activities they committed when they were alive. Fishing in troubled waters is not good reporting.

    Thank you DBS for re publishing the article because I know every inch of Tricomallee land marks as a man who was born there fifty years back.

  50. Should it be ironic that inconceivable human suffering transcended all divides?

    Infuriating, even though I know anger, whether held in or misdirected serves no purpose than to satisfy and console oneself. It can be safely assumed that justice will not be done in this case. However, all is fare in this world even though we may fail to see and realize it as such.

    There is a higher order that holds the intentions and deeds of all beings accountable, and those held accountable will not be confined to the soldiers that committed this crime. Everyone those nurtured situations and circumstances that led to this tragedy and countless others preceding this and those that followed will be too. Many more unwittingly continue to do so.

    May we find the wisdom, courage and strength to acknowledge and accept our collective sins and strive towards a future where the aspirations and dreams of these very youth could become a reality for the youth of today.

  51. What a waste of innocent lives. These boys are same age as my son(born in1985). I can just imagine what the parents must be going through. I hope the truth will come out one day and the culprits punished. But again DBSJ as you know ,there are so many cases similar to this swept under the carpet. I still remember travelling on the upper deck of a double decker in 1971 and watching the bodies floating in Kelani river(boys and girls) . The girls’ hair were tied together. Then in 1989 ‘Beeshana Samaya’, we saw bodies everywhere’. If I go to describe all the atrocities seen in my lifetime jn this beautiful isalnd, this page will be not enough

    It is a cruel world.

  52. My Deepest sympathies to the families who suffered in this atrocity and every single person involved in this should be punished to the maximum.

    Being proud of being able to eradicate terrorism from SL, I still wonder what kind of society we have in Sri Lanka. Even though we are blessed by Buddhism we have never taken refuge of it. My point is in 80s 60,000 sinhalese youths were murdered like this. I am not saying the JVP is innocent but we killed 60,000 youth. So if this is the plight for sinhalese, I can imagine the suffering of Tamil sandwiched between SL army and LTTE. But my point is rather than marginalize the problems in racial lines, If we look at Sri Lanka society all of them, Tamil, Sinhalese, Muslims, all have been uncivilized undemocratic lot.

    Tell me are we any different to countries like Somalia? I feel we are far worse than them, originating from so called civilizations more than 2000 years old.

    We think we are the best and we do not tolerate any criticism towards us and we vehemently deny bad thing we do. We will go on telling them we have a culture of 2500 years old we were wearing clothes when they were in jungles etc etc.

    In my analysis, the reasons for this are many folds.

    Our education system

    Our schools do not teach value of human life, human rights, democracy and how wise we should be in electing our governments.

    Our Political system

    Majority are dumb idiots and only argument I bring forth is that they want to measure the length of the skirt of girls than addressing the major issues burning in the country. I have nothing else to say. But who do I blame? Sri Lankans, They elected them.

    Politics divide our nation in races ,castes villages.
    ,

    Western Influence

    The west, NGOs try to teach us to be better, But their approach is completely out of line. Rather than reaching to people to make them realize that change should happen from within. They try to enforce it. The best example is, If they want to help make our country better, rather than alienating Mahinda Rajapakse, They can work with him to bring the change slowly. Sri Lankans are not idiots, we are well educated, but we are very unintelligent. Understand the difference and do not treat us like some African countries. We need a different approach. We are educated unintelligent.

    Media

    Political lackeys, NGO lackeys. They would sell even their mothers to make money. TV channels destroys the morals of our society with cheap taste.

    Our clergy

    Sangha society is corrupted to the bottom. How many Sri Lankans can stand up and say robing children as monks is a violation of child rights and we should stop it? This single thing has made our Sangha society corrupted and sacrilegious.
    Situation is not any better with other religions, Child abuse is rampant. But who opens mouth?

    The main things we need to understand as Sri Lankans are,

    We can not call ourselves Buddhists, As we do not practice real Buddhism.

    We are not civilized as we do not follow civilized lives.

    We are not lawful because we try to circumvent the law for our personnel benefit ( Ex:If you have a friend in police, you call him when you are stopped for speeding )

    We are not ethical, We break every available ethics for our personnel gain. ( Ex: We throw patients from beds to get a bed, If we have relations working in the hospital )

    The list is endless.

    It breaks my heart to say I am not proud to be a Sri Lankan because our behavior is shameful, But the sad fact is our selfishness overshadows all these evils and we pretend we are better than any other nation.

    Please do not defend saying these problems exist in west as well, The fact is that does not justify it and we know it is wrong in our conscience.

    Until we understand these hard facts, We will never be a better nation. DBS, Dayan Jayathilaka, Rajeewa, People like them should try to reach out to people and urge them to bring out our dirty laundry to clean.

    Once the core corruptness in our soles healed, We will not need two countries.

    Stop blaming Dushy, She only look at us from an outsiders point of view.

  53. why there is no further report on the HR abuses that are going now in jaffna ?

    there were more than five cold blooded murders within 10 days.

    when we can expect a detailed investigative report on them ?

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Wide publicity is being given to what is supposedly going on in Jaffna now.It has been raised in Parliament and questions lodged. Oppsition leader has called for an all -party delegation to visit Jaffna and assess the situation

    All these developments were not prevalent five years ago when these five youths were murdered and portrayed as LTTE cadres.Hence there was a need to seek and write the truth amidst difficulties and hardship.

    In the case of Jaffna there is a lot of media focus.

    Also the LTTE and pro-LTTE media in the Diaspora are going to town with their propoganda spin on the events. In such a situation I doubt whether independent human rights organizations will produce a report.

  54. Thank you very much, DBS for writting about this tragedy.

    I humbly request to consider writting about the ‘Action Farm’ tragedy in Moothoor also, where 17 NGO employees were killed in cold blood three years ago. There too no justice has been done.
    The Srilanka Monitoring Mission concluded that ,that was done by the security forces. That NGO belongs to France but France has rejected the application for asylum by most of the victims’ dependents.
    I know the case of a women whose husband was killed and she is having big trouble in raising her children now.
    Western countries grant asylums to many bogus appliacants who land in thier land illegally. But do not accept the genuine cases of applications made from their affceted land in Srilanka.

  55. Mr Jeyaraj,

    It was a crime committed by the Police special Task Force. These criminals were sent there by Mr Kotakadeniya, who was an additional secretary at the ministry of defence. He is a former DIG and a present provincial councilar, western Province. A prominant member of the Hela Urumaya terrorists. All these rajapaksa thugs must be held responsible one day. Please don’t publish my name. I would be killed on the road.

  56. It was an insurgency. If you remember similar insurgencies were staged by the JVP and some in the armed forces acted with similar or much worst reactions. There is no way of attributing everything to ethnicity though it played a role in defeating the LTTE. Those Tamil friends who look at this article with ethnic eye should realize that it’s the common bitterness of such civil unrests if we like or not. If you thank DBSJ as Tamils then you are playing the wrong card. If you understand this as a reality of opting for insurgencies for rights then you are right as Sri Lankans. Similar ruthless encounters are recorded in all such eras in the world’s history mainly by the so called human rights watch dogs of today. (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.)

    While DBSJ is an exceptionally professional journalist, he is so tactful to balance the moods of his readers by providing various tastes time to time. It may be for his own survival, or simply because he is so balanced, or just expressing his grievances as a Tamil……well I don’t know.

    However as Arati rightly said highlighting this incident alone at this moment brings us no where…. Then as a Sinhalese I can also recall my memories of Sri Maha Bodhi Attack, Aranthalawa, Kithul Uthuwa, Pettah Bomb, Kokilai and Nayaru….want more….? Then why not JVP time Wavul Kale, Embilipitiya massacres……. Then why not LTTE’s massacres of own Tamils in PLOTE, TELO etc and also those who belonged to Mahattaya, Karuna and members of Army’s LRRP Deep Penetrators…..

    Come on my Tamil friends have a life and show you have really moved forward (or at least willing to do so) from your perception of Waddukkodai and post 1983 by the UNP goons before calling Sinhalese to drop Mahawansa mindset. As I understand Tamils and Muslims are not minorities in Sri Lanka in the global context since Sinhalese is the minority that are at risk of loosing their own land one day. When some of our Tamil and Muslim friends (I know they do) be proud of having a huge Diaspora support to win rights in Sri Lank by intimidating Sinhalese, I wonder reconciliation is ever possible.

  57. Dear DBSJ:

    This truly breaks the hearts of any person. Terribe and a sad story. Lives of young men taken away. I pray for the parents of these children.

    Thank you for trying to bring justice…

  58. The state of impunity elucidated once again. The continuous and consistent demand for justice for dead is important, if we have to end the culture of impunity in SL. We have 119 massacres that have documented up to 2001 and 34 massacres up to mid June 2008 excluding Mullivaikaal hospital massacres and no-fire zone shelling.

    Many mass atrocities that still screaming for justice!
    Navali church 07/09/95 151 dead.
    Mandathivu Sep/1990 81 dead.
    Saththurukondaan 09/09/90 200+dead.
    Vantharumulai 23/09/90 83 dead
    Kattankudi 03/08/90 147 dead (by LTTE)
    Pothuvil Massacre 30/07/90 114 dead
    Veeramunai Massacre 20/06/90 232 dead
    Kokkadicholai Massacre 28/01/87 133 dead
    VVT Massacre 12/05/1985 70 dead
    Anuradhapura attack 14/05/1985 146 dead (by LTTE)
    Mannar Massacre 04/12/1984 107 dead

    People from Hospitals, Churches, Temples, Mosques, schools, orphanages, school buses, drifted boats, ferry and no-fires zones were massacred indiscriminately. Invalid, infants, young or old were not spared. These can be still repeated because the same spirit still remains within the armed actors!

    Law makers are still jingoistic! Law is still oppressive! Armed forces are still trigger-happy!

    What still bugs me is when Jaffna hospital massacre under IPKF took place, I was screaming to demand for justice. One senior Indian official told me “Time will heal you (Tamils). Mind you, no one will talk about this in a few years time”. Ironically when a senior Tamil politician also made the same comment, I was furious. Only relentless movement for justice can end this violence. People like DBS should remind the Tamils with amnesia to come to senses on this matter to bring reconciliation in SL. Every time I loose my relative or friend, I think “we” are not doing enough.

    The state of impunity must be brought down by effective mass action. Ask yourselves:
    How come no one ever charged for anti-Tamil pogrom since 1956?
    Why the government still protects the human rights violators?
    Why torture is still prevalent among the state forces?
    Even after broadcasting the massacre of detainees, the government fails to acknowledge the list of detainees under their custody?
    Why a Human rights lawyer like President Mahinda Rajapakse upholding impunity?

  59. This story made me really sad. I was so sad, I felt being choked. I can Imagine the grief of the families of these children. It was wanton unnecessary destruction like this that is hounding this government now. But it was the action of a few that brings disrepute to all.
    I remember the killings in 88-89 of many many innocents. Military/war is a cruel business. For them its just an action, a sinhala at one time and a tamil at a another. Even the perpetrators of 88-89 atrocities did not not face legal sense of justice but I know of at least a couple who had to face natural justice. They just could not live with the guilt anymore they, committed suicide.
    What I cant understand is why people like Dushy(comment# 15) who has learned to write, don’t understand what they write? If a person after attending church kill someone,Is it the fault of the church? Blaming Buddha and Buddhism for every thing is a separate agenda run concurrent to the conflicts in Buddhist countries. Crusaders and Jihadis wage war for supremacy of numbers in the world. Violence of any sort for what ever reason has no place in Buddhism even if committed by a person who claims to be a Buddhist.

  60. Kalu Albert
    I totally agree with you about your comment on Dushit Ranetunge. He/she needs to seek some counselling. Only writes some garbage totally irrelevant to the subject.A person with a terrible inferiority complex

  61. This is the darkest side of our security forces, killing innocent people knowing that they are innocent, we can never forgive them even though they sacrificed so much to rescue our country.

  62. Hey jeyaraj: You have run away from Sri Lanka and your hallucinated opinions are just bullshit. Shut up and stay hidden, you pathetic moron.

  63. Terrible story, hope those times will never return.

    Tricomaleee district as a whole has seen too much violence.

    Een the death squads of that period that brought death and devastation roaming the villages like Walikanda, Aralaganvila, temples of Aranathlawa, Kudumbigala mosques along the coast right up to Arugam Bay and even the Yala sanctuary is said to is said to have o said originated from the Northurn conurbations.

    Has folks come out with more facts to LLRC.

  64. 5. Geetha and 11. Uncle of victim

    Sorry Geetha to note that one of your cousin was a victim in this.

    I do not have any word to add to that.

    I feel very sad after reading this article.

    There are many right thinking people in both the communities. I only wish that they see to it that justice is done.

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    WHOEVER YOU ARE AND HOWEVER HIGH YOU ARE THE LAW IS HIGHER THAN YOU.

  65. This is one of the most painful memories of brutality against innocent Tamils in recent times – I am personally aware of. The other being the cold-blooded murder of the over-dozen Tamil volunteers of the French NGO. I attended about 3 meetings of the enquiry at the BMICH where foreign guests were present.
    In the 1st day of the enquiry i lost confidence in the proceedings although Justice udalagama came with a fairly good reputation. As proceedings continued and Devanesan Nesiah was forced out by Sinhala chauvinism, the Commission losts its credibility. The principled Nesiah – against whom Sinhala supremacist lawyers began a hate-campaign – refused to resign and asked the Govt to sack him if that is the whole object. . Speaking to Ranjith Abeysuriya PC, whom I knew – and who tore the Muslim SI’s evidence to pieces – I was convinced the whole thing was nothing more than an exercise in futility.

    And now that decent lady Mrs Mano Ramanathan – the only woman and Tamil in the LLRC – is being called “an LTTE terrorist” by innuendo by no less than a person in the calibre of Dr. Gunadasa Amarasekera – the step-father of Sinhala chauvinism. Of course Dr. Gunda is now trying to extricate out of the faux pas – as the stench of the ignominy has reached high heaven – with various excuses. But the damage reamains undone.

    Rajihar and his talented friends have been plucked away ruthlessly by a barbaric armed force. Had they lived they would have served the community – Sinhala, Tamil and Muslim equally – and most usefully as their educated parents did. In ths gloom and darkness I join the many Tamils and other Sri Lankan to salute Dr. Gamini Gunatunga – who stood courageously for justice – honouring the ancient hippocratic oath. No words of comfort will be adequate to Dr. Kasipillai Manoharan and his wife or the parents, near and dear ones of the other youth executed by a savage society that insists being born, bred and scrupulosuly living to the tenets of the
    teachings of the Most Compassionate One.

    ISS

  66. To Dushy Ranetunge:

    What is your motive? To attack Budhism? How do you know all the culprits are Buddhists? Is it possible one of few of these who are responsible are Christians? Do they also listen to Pirith or read the Bible after the crime?

    All I have to say is that each person including the author had his/her own agenda.

  67. MR and his goons know the culprits and they will not bring them to justice. One of the victim’s father was urged by MR to give up the fight for justice in return for several perks including a house in Colombo, money and offered send his other children aboard for studies etc. This was conveyed to the father by one of the senior most cabinet minister at that time who was send personally by MR. The father refused the offer and wanted justice saying to the Minster ” could you please ask his Excellency, what he would do if his son is marched to the Galle face and shot in front of him. Will he walk away without getting justice”. The Minster left the meeting in anger. Next day, he started receiving threats and intimidation by the security forces. The entire family and neighbour hood was in danger of being burned alive. An INGO helped his family to flee the country to safe his family from the butchers. The father is still in mourning and waiting for justice.
    This is MR style justice. So, Tamils shouldn’t expect anything from this regime. As the American Embassy cables conclude that the regime will not investigate itself as the crime and violation of Human rights go right to the top.

  68. Dear DBSJ,
    I am a regular reader of your writing. I have not commented lately.

    Tamils have suffered enough in the 60 years. I thought after the war, they can live relatively peacefully. Abductions, killings & threats continue to haunt them. I asked myself do we need another VP.

    Wish you all the best in 2011.

    R Maran

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Thank you. Wish you all the best for 2011.

    However much the situation is bad today “yearning” for a return of VP is no answer.Let us not forget that VP is largely responsible for the Tamil predicament today. We are struggling to rise up from the morass in which we are in mainly due to VP and his minions. If another “VP” emerges then we can write off the Tamils of Sri Lanka

  69. Dear DBSJ.Thanks for fighting for justice.I have no reason to believe that some elements of security forces were not involved with this tragedy.As a southener I have experianced them during the 89 insurgency.We saw many unlawful killings like this in south .Our parents had a time looking after us. This reminds me the massacre of 40 odd sinhalese school children by rogue elements of security forces in Embilipitiya during thoses days over a dispute of a love affair.Irrespective of ethnicity, when rogue elements got arms to their hands they cross the border of humanity sadly.We saw it from both sides over past thirty years.It is the utmost duty of a decent government to bring them in front of justice and maintain law and order in armed forces.They cannot use the same tactics LTTE used as they are the official force of the country and by all means should abide by law.My respect for armed personal who acted lawfully and sacrificed their lives for the country by no means would be demeaned by cowardly acts of few rogues like this.As the war is over now we should exert pressure on the governement to exhibit transparency in dealing with these matters and without a delay to take steps to bring the culprits infront of the law to fulfil the justice.My thoughts are with the families of the victims and also with the many others of both races who are grief sticken over their lost ones over past three decades..DBS, we would be grateful for you for writing about the injustice until we achieve a clean coutry where everyone can live with peace and dignity.We need many like Lasantha to put this government in to right track but only time will tell whether it is realistic.What goes around comes around.Commiting crimes and protecting criminals are equally bad.

  70. ISS:

    Rajihar and his talented friends have been plucked away ruthlessly by a barbaric armed force…

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    my my my…

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    When 31 students at Ebilipitiya were murdered that was to take revenge for another incident. I wonder whether there is anything specific that made these students the target of their assassins? It also begs an answer was it not been careless on part of the students (and their parents) to be hanging around late in the evening at public places given the situation prevailing in the area? During JVP insurgency, parents in the south didn’t allow their children to wonder around for nobody wanted to be identified with JVP anymore than they already were. Clearly, culprits are been protected and there must be a reason for that as well. Most likely, they too must have done things out side the law under the knowledge of the state which the state does not want in public. The amount of resistance shown to an impartial investigation is a measure of what lies underneath. The opposition must take good part of the blame for it is their responsibility to apply pressure on the state to deliver justice.

  71. Comment 55 Mr Gunaratna,

    What a pathetic apologist for the anti Srilankan , anti Buddhist and anti Sinhala community.

    I hope he knows what he is talking about because he contradicts himself so much that no one will be able to understand what he is on about, except the fact that he is a fan of Dushy Ranatunga.

  72. .#30 by Chinthaka

    Chinthaka, you raised some concerns about the ‘prudence of the Samaritan’ who rose to the occasion to assist the needy.

    I was not aware of any formal curfew order at that time in Jaffna. But the soldiers were posted all over the place and they were but looting all the houses during the day and night soon after the war.

    They looted my own room too and got away with lot of valueable articles. Later I challenged them for looting my room. Their anwers to me was ” Be careful, We know how to handle you.”

    My point in my comment was not so much about the shooting the watcher of the Bishop’s House, but the way the ‘STORY WAS TWISTED’. Chinthaka, you missed the point of my comment. Please reread my comment.

    It is all about being ‘TRUTHFUL’. Truth too was a victim and unfortuntely it continues to be a victim even today as converse with each other.

    The PATH to RECONCILIATION is TRUTH.

    Thanks Chinthaka for reading my comment and commenting on it.

    Dr.Kathir

  73. Comment 68—- Mr Senguttuavan,

    This unfortunate incident happened on 3 January 2009.

    What was the situation in Trico on the 3 January 2011?

    Were there any killings, abductions ,and rapes of innocent people whether Tamils or others?

    Were there any such dastardly acts since 20 May 2009?

    What made this difference from 2009 t0 2011?

    It is quite appropriate to discuss the dastardly acts which happened in the past,,( there are so many on both sides of the divide), and express our sorrow and repentance.

    We must also influence the authorities to find out what exactly happened although it is not an easy task ,

    There is nothing in comparison to the brtality of the Terrorism Srilanka endured for three decades.

    Srilankans living in Srilanka have enjoyed a peaceful and relaxed Sinha New Year after a long hiatus and they are just coming out of one of the most peaceful and happy Christmas seasons.

    Does it not say something about the peaceful co existence of the majority Buddhist with the Christian minority?

    Didn’t the Hindus celebrate their Chariot and the other Festivals in the North as well as in the South in a grand scale last year?

    Why don’t people like this poster and his Christian mates appreciate these positive developments.

    Why do they attack Lord Buddha and his Srilankan followers at every twist and turn?

    Is that their version of reconciliation?

    If not what t is their motive?

  74. Thanks for republishing this above article. It is good to remind our community and at the same time the rest of the world on the ’state of impunity’ that prevails in Srilanka. This is a terrible crime and an appalling waste of 5 young lives, Their parents, relatives and the Tamil community yet to receive justice. Will it ever happen? The Commission of Inquiry set up in 2007 by this president with the elevan International eminent persons group came to nothing. IEPG declared that the government has no will to act. Which means they know the truth but culture of impunity had prevented Justice. Today the JHU minster has said the Tamils cannot claim nationhood they are mere minority. Only God can bring about a change in thinking of this terrible parochial Mahavamsa mindset. Since 1910[ Sinhala translation of this Pali chronicle] has slowly errored the Buddha’s preaching of Ahimsa, Dharma Sathiya,

  75. 75. Kalu Albert:- Dushy Ranatunga is a high minded woman living in comfortable surroundings in UK and has an axe to grind against Singhalese & GOSL. It is another Dr brian seneviratna, a cousin of Chandrika, living in Australia, a self appointed spokesman for tamils and LTTE for a long time. However many tamils have distanced themselves from him due to his radical views. He was kicked out of the Queensland health service for rabble rousing and causing trouble. So don’t even waste time commenting about these people.

  76. Hi DBS,
    I came to the incident via one of my friend from Jaffna at the time. Made me big pain after reading this article.
    I am not sure what kind of Justice going to satisfy all.
    In Sri Lanka there are lot of murders happened in past but never brought up to justice. So this is also goes one of the event.
    Dear friends we can not expect justice from killers so then what we can do?
    we have no option wait… wait… until last tamililan leave from Sri Lanka.
    Best Wishes.
    Ratnam.

  77. well this is a one by product incident from war,even Sinhalese can say 100’s of stories like this,when LTTE killed innocent Sinhalese villagers no one here cried for tamil innocents did not cry 🙂 and when this happened Sinhalese thought these are terrorists …

    So it is sad and it is something that should have not happed. but it is simply a by product of war,you can now argue that still killings against tamils happen,yes even killings against Sinhalese still happen.

    I have seen people asking do we need another VP 🙂 obviously tamils can have another VP and at one stage there will be another MR from sinhaliese 🙂 so it will be back to square game.

    What needed is not to talk about what has happened,you can claim 1000 of reason and want justice for the killings done by armed forces but what about killings done by tamils against sinhalise? how that should be justified? killing oe punishing all tamils for that as it is not easy find who has exactly done ,they possibly blended now with main stream tamil community and when even such guy is abducted mots tamils here shout saying it was a innocent one 🙂

    what has happened happened just move on

  78. # 59 Anuradha from Galle

    “Masuran” must be put in your mouth for telling the ETERNAL TRUTH that many seem hardly understanding or pretending as if they’re not, for reasons best known to them…. Thanks mate.

  79. # 76 Dr. Kathir

    Thanks for letting me know your point. But given the seriousness and brutality of the period, that wasn’t a suprise to me Doctor. We in south too experienced the same sort of things enough, but we understand the hard time gone thro’ by soldiers which is the difference.

    Given the possible sections of law that might be affected on the soldier who shot the priest’s watcher while trying to act on good faith, the militory person might have tried to cover the incident to his comrade’s favour.

    Compared to lives lost in a period like that, these complaints have no much importance at all, don’t you think so?

  80. “There is a climate of impunity” – your words DBS in 2011. How sadly true those words are, in particular regarding crimes committed against Tamils by the state.

    Now that the LTTE has been defeated, it is easy for the Sinhalese to say “move on”. However, nothing has changed for the Tamils. The Sri Lankan state committed crimes against Tamils with impunity, before the LTTE came into existence, during the war and continue to do so now in the post-LTTE scenario. How can Tamils move on when the same thing is happening now and can happen tomorrow? How can Tamils move on when the people who gave protection to the killers, who lied about the crimes are currently running the country?

  81. My dear Kalu, Rana and the other sensitive flowers,

    Those who killed innocents at Fort railway station got their dues, have they not old chaps, and you have celebrated with waving flags, raban and all that jazz.

    It is only fair that the innocents on the other side have justice as well so that they can wave their flags and beat their rabana’s, my little puddings!

    As for listening to pirith and talking about the great 2500 years of history, am I not saying the brutal truth, my sensitive flower petals??

    I know, I know, with all that 2,500 years of civilisation I expect the Lion race to be morally and intellectually superior, what say you old chaps???? Great breeding and all that?

    Perhaps the fact that according to the Mahavamsa, the Sinhalese race came into being because of a brother (sinha bahu) screwing a sister (sinha seevali) may have screwed up the DNA of the great ones.

    Must do an article on this………mmmmmmm gets me thinking…….

    My dear sensitive flower petals,

    Tamils are not terrorists or South Indians who invaded, but our own peoples. The same way that Sinhalese in the Western coast have acquired English language, culture, dress and christianity because of their association with European colonial powers since 1505, people in the North have acquired Tamil language, culture, dress and religion as a result of their long association with South Indian colonialism from 992AD.

    To me the death of a Tamil child is the same as the death of a Sinhalese child, especially those of us who have children the same age as these children of Trincomalee who have been killed.

    It breaks my heart to see parents having to bury their children and I will protest and screw the Lions and the Tigers and all their bankrupt nationalist agendas.

    You cannot compare killing at Fort railway station with killing of Tamil civilians in Trinco, because if you do, then you are only acknowledging that the Sri Lankan state is behaving like terrorists???

    Think about it, o’ enlightened ones who listens to pirith…..

  82. Common line that runs throuh the comments is- this a crime by Sinhalese on Tamils. My understanding is this how the state acts on any community regardless of the race.

    Crimes worse than this were commited in the south during JVP insurgent and a lot of ‘innocent’ Sinhala youth perished. One security officer once told me they had safe houses where they kept good looking girls abducted from bus stops after tution classes. I have doubts how truthfull he was, but he said none of the captives left the place alive even though many of them had no connection to JVP.

    No SL government (even when JVP was a partner) ever thought about investigating such crimes let alone punishing the culprits.

    In the name of reconciliation, we should accept that, this same tragedy could have hapened some where in Galle or Matara too.

    However military’s even handedness should not be a reason not to punish the perpetrators. Regardless of the victim’s race, people of such brutality should be brought to justice.

  83. 79 Anonymous,

    Thanks pal.

    I thought Dushy is a male going through menopause.
    Now I know that she is a Sinhalese Cougar! perhaps going through menopause — A cross between a Lion and aTiger.

    As a Sinhalese I am soooo proud that non of the Sinhala Buddhists presenting their input here never take cheap shots at Jesus,,His teachings and His followers.

    Tamil people have a genuine reason to be cut up about what happened to them.

    A minority group who enjoyed better than the Majority standards have been brought down to the current situation because of their own doing.

    The atrocities which occurred over the last three decades have been well documented.

    If the Tamil people express their anger at the Government , or the majority Sinhala Buddhist people , it is understandable and Sinhala people would not mind it.

    But I should emphasize that only a very few Tamil people take a swipe at the Buddhists here as we regulars often notice in these columns.

    When the Sinhalese come here with all this bullshit about how bad the Sinhala Buddhists are and imply that all Sinhalese have Mahawamsa in their heads, it is rather pathetic.

    Specially the Sinhalese who made to the West, ridiculing their brethren back home is rather contemptible..

    There are 20 Million plus people there, who are trying to give their children at least one square meal a day.

    These people who got to their privileged lives in the West by luck should at least have a kind word for the struggle the locals go through in their day to day lives.

    By the way dear Dushy ,we chaps are not as old as you think.

    I am more than happy to take you to a nice up market Restaurant in the fashionable part of London when i am there next time.You can even pick the place.

    Not bad for a descendant of incest with screwed up DNA.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Just because Dushy has written something with which you are in disagreement , there is no reason to be personal and insulting. It also appears that your hostility is fuelled by your perception that Dushy is a she(shades of male chauvinism?) Dushy Ranetunge is a HE.

    Your remarks about menopause etc is vulgar and sexist. You should be ashamed of yourself

    Now why dont you all google and see the amount of articles he has written in the past? If you try to read them in chronological order with an open mind you may be able to discover for yourself who Dushy is. It may also help you understand his writing better.

    Dushy R has been critical of the LTTE when the tigers were a force to reckon with. He is now critical of certain aspects of the Rajapaksa regime because he is able to discern that justice is not being done to the victimised Tamil people and also because he feels Sri Lanka is on the road to ruin due to the corruption, nepotism, Sinhala supremism, abuse of power etc prevalent under Rajapaksa rule

    In any case I have lots of regard for him because he was never reluctant to speak his mind out and that too under his own name

  84. Dear DBSJ, I used to hate all your articles. I have commented few times which you never published. But I am really happy to know that you also thought about the poor tamil innocent people who got killed by SLA in many incidents. This article made me crying?

  85. Dear Dushy Ranetunge,

    I don’t have any words to express my thanks. I am from India and never been to Srilanka, but know all the incidents happening in srilanka through news, articles, books and magazines. After reading your comments, I changed my mind and also realized that NOT all the sinhalese are bad. There are many sinhalese who are good and lovable like you. I wish people like you should get the power and tamils will be happy to live peacefully under a good person like you. Thanks again

  86. # 85 Dushy Ranatunga

    For that matter of seeking the equality you don’t need to use sarcasm on a religion or redicule the history of sinhalese… No one among Sinhalese rediculed Hindu or Christianity even after they knew there’s a vast majority of preists blessing LTTE terrorists as freedom fighters.

    If you had the same worry towards all kinds of children getting killed, why don’t you make a noise about children in south who got killed by going to a war of defending?? Those children joined the forces to defend the whole country in a war imposed on them by LTTE terrorists. They never started the war, but they had to be in the unpleasant war created by one thug and his clan, thanks to the blind followers of their kind.

    For your types, LTTE became terrorists only after they were completely wiped out. Until then they were Rebels or freedom fighters. Army is there to get killed by by protecting so-called civilians come and attack in different disguises.

    Soldiers also do have hearts, familiies and kids. They’re not paid enough to be killed in the scale that types of you must be thinking.

  87. DBSJ – You deserve more than congratulations – for being impartial – and for presenting the true facts with sincere force – As you said MR should take impatial actions to eleminate these vermins in his security out fit – because these goons rot the name of entire armed forces – Pls find the culprits and punish them adequately – let the victims come forward and divulge the truth in front of LLRC.

  88. It is a sad story.You have written it dispassionately and objectively as possible. But impunity continues

  89. Continuation — All who are commenting on this — Be impartial — the Tamil as well as Sinhale extremists had done enough damage to this country – So this country needs balance minded people — Forcing GOSL to take actions against vermins in the army — and using these incidents to insult majority Sinhalese people – who do not approve these behaviour of Armies — are two different things

  90. @Navin.Thanks for comments.I also thought about the prevailed situation.I was a Uni student during the 89 era and my parents would not have allowed me to go out as a group if the situation was tense like the way described by DBSJ.However the parents have already gone through the mill and it is not fair to hurt them as the prize they paid was disproportionately high.I personally feel someone has seen these youth in the beach and utilized the opportunity to escalate tension between the armed forces and the tamil community.I cannot understand otherwise why someone throw a grenade and runaway when the youth were there and the armed forces were closeby in near vicinity.The forces have stepped into the trap and done exactly what those elements wanted them to do.Their actions cannot be justified by anymeans however demanding the situation was.It was stated that all were not in agreement as there had been strong arguments between the two groups of armed personnel. However it is the kind of mindset exercised by armed forces both in south and north to punish whoever in the vicinity to teach a lesson to others and their name is tarnished all over the world as a result of that .I hope the hierachy will learn a lesson from this.
    Though I don’t know personally I must commend the bravery of my medical colleague who stood by justice and we need many more of you.Our people should be educated about their rights and their right to fight for their rights.They have been suppressed and oppressed by several decades and politicians think they can getaway after any wrong doing and this is extremely dangerous for the country.If Sinhalese think this is a Tamil problem ,the day won’t be that long for you to realise the guns were turned at your children and it will be too late then.About the opposition,How can they raise their voice as they are also the part of the same problem.You may remember ”Green tigers” I believe.It is us.. or nobody else my friend.

  91. Missed the original article, and this gave me an opportunity to understand the full details. Although you wrote it from Canada, the facts you presented are matched with what I heard from Trinco. That could be the reason, it upsets some and they are trying having a go at the reporter. They are willing to share the karma in the name of patriotism. Thanks for republishing the article DBSJ.

    Felt really sad to read this. Hope time has healed those grieving loved ones at least by a fraction. Not sure what was the motive for the cold blooded killing. Given the admittance of two boys alive, clearly indicates this was not a planned murder. Like the Doctor who did the post-mortem and delivered the actual findings despite the pressure he was under, the group of servicemen who behaved well enough and brought those bodies and the surviving ones to the hospital deserves credit. Far better outcome than looking for bodies in order to get rid of evidence.

    Some who comments here are trying in vein to equate this heinous act to that of committed by LTTE. Doing so, what they did not realise though is they unashamedly admitting a nation’s forces has also been behaving equally bad as or worse than terrorists. Let us stop talking about LTTE, thanks god the cowards have gone, for that every one who knew LTTE’s ins and outs would salute the gallant force. However, actions of a few who commit this crime, killed the volunteers of French NGOs and TRO and the insane person chasing into the sea at Gale Face, have no doubt tarnish the image of the forces.

    These people should not be defended by any genuine patriotic people as crime is a crime, does not matter who commits. No one is above the law. What is really alarming is these kinds of murderers are still at large and have been given power to enforce law and order. Do not they set themselves as an example strictly following law and order?

    One of the positives, I consider, of reposting this article is, it helps remind those murderers of the act they did about 5 years ago was not something bound by duty but was an act of sheer brutalism, which is not accepted by any faith of religion or civilised society. Some of your comments, I understand, that are driven by LTTE’s atrocities, look as if defending these heartless creatures might defeat that purpose, make them feel like heroes. I am sure you all would be happy to see our brave men and women serving in the forces but not murderers who kill defenceless students-they are in fact a drag for the reputation of the rest who is in the service. Those who know the site of the crime knew there is no way an outsider going through all army and navy check points could have come to this location, leaving only locals into the equation. With one smack, the students could have identified themselves who they were. Interrogation beyond that point was in fact torture. In effect, presence of LTTE gave a reason for these murderers to get away with their crime. This is a clear example of type of benefit that people of NE enjoyed because of LTTE.

    My thoughts are with those who lost their loved ones at their prime, and I understand that the life will never be same for you. Hope justice will be done one day, and if it happens, I believe it is good for not only for those families, but for all fair minded Sri Lankan. I do not see this in any sort of racial line, it is simply a crime and those who involved are to be dealt with, in accordance with law.

  92. 87. Kalu Albert:- I do not agree with DBSJ comment that Kalu was personal and insulting. If that is the case, what do we judge out of the tenor of dushy’s reply? Full of sarcasm and demeaning. DBSJ I know you are very protective of your kind and that is reasonable. You are protective of Dylan J when he is currently shamefully pro MR. We can see it like the dog’s balls. Before that he was independent. Similarly these journalists can change color. If Dushy is worried about SL why is he not worried about the civilians killed by UH+US forces in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq? Am I to believe that children of those countries are lesser than the children of SL? He is worried about war criminals of SL when the biggest war criminals live in his own country of residence. Why haven’t he written articles on that? It is called selective mud slinging. What is good for the goose should be good for the gander. If he writes such articles in UK criticizing UK government, it will certainly cook his goose. Paul Bruce a former SAS soldier who served in Northern Ireland was a member of a SAS assassination squad which killed many Irish civilians around 1971,72. These civilians were suspected of having connections with IRA. Many of those killed were buried in secret graves on Black mountain on the outskirts of Belfast. Eventually in 1995 he wrote a book “nemesis file” published in UK where he confessed to these killings as ordered by the UK Govt. He also chronicled the mental break down of crack SAS troops ordered to carry out unlawful killings.  The Govt responded that they would launch an immediate inquiry but it got no where. It was swept under the carpet. Subsequently Captain Fred Holroyd, military intelligence officer with MI6 came to know that these killings were done with the knowledge of MI6,MI5, RUC and para military organisations operating in northern Ireland under the protection of UK Govt. In 1976 he wanted the UK govt to investigate these killings but Ministry of Defense refused. His position became untenable. He was put under extreme pressure. He resigned his commission & left UK. Well I suppose the flower petal Dushy is unaware of these events but of course gravely concerned about the Singhalese murderers of SL. He is living among the saints. What a fraud.

  93. 59. Anuradha from Galle

    Those Tamil friends who look at this article with ethnic eye should realize that it’s the common bitterness of such civil unrests if we like or not.

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    Did you ever use air power against the JVP? Did you ever use the Phosphorus powder against the JVP?

    There is allegation that you used Phosphorus powder against the LTTE in the Anandapuram battle.

    Did you kill any JVP in the prison like the welikade, Kaluthra or Binduniweva?

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  94. As for listening to pirith and talking about the great 2500 years of history, am I not saying the brutal truth, my sensitive flower petals??
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    Mr Ranatunga, have a bit of fairness man. When Americans go to a Sunday service and then go out and kill Muslim civilians in Iraq, no one calls that Christians killing others. Everyone down plays the religious aspect when a Muslim suicide bomber kills 26 Christians in an Egypt church – it is called an act of terrorism and politically correct Brigade goes on and on how Islam had nothing to do with the act. When US airmen prayed to a Christian God for mission success and before flying Enola Gay over Hiroshima to incinerate 75,000 Buddhists, majority of women and children, no one has thought about bringing up the religious aspects of that act.

    In none of these cases no one, neither historians or anyone else has chosen to emphasis the religion of the parties as you have repeatedly chosen to do when it comes to Sinhalese. Now I don’t know who you are or what your faith is, but anyone reading your articles will at once pick up on the religious hatred that you are preaching against Buddhism thinly veiled as opposition to Mahinda and the current regime in Sri Lanka.

    Either you are totally ignorant or are choosing to deliberately ignore the fact that GOSL forces are not mono-religious Buddhist but obviously the Buddhist are a majority. Similarly, LTTE was not a mono-religious Hindu force but a mixture of Hindu and Christian Tamils. When it comes to atrocities, if we are to find a religious angle to the perpetrators, I am sure that every religion was pretty equally represented.

    As for you and many other “experts” who are desperately trying to cast this Sinhala-Tamil struggle as a religious conflict, may I remind you that in 71 and 89 pretty much all the people who got massacred were Buddhist youth. The so called ‘Buddhist” governments of those days did not have any compulsion to deal with them gently because the JVP were mostly Buddhist. If the Tamils who took arms to carve out a separate country were all 100% pure Buddhists, the resulting government reaction still would have been the same.

    The fact of the matter is that this was a struggle for limited economic resources. A classic class struggle that politicians turned in a racial conflict based on the language. Sinhalese politicians because this gave them a chance to get into power and Tamil politicians because in addition to keeping the power in the Tamil community to themselves, it was also a great opportunity to hide the shortcomings of the Jaffna Tamil society that practices a brutal form of apartheid in the form of their cast system.

  95. 84. Kaz
    Now that the LTTE has been defeated, it is easy for the Sinhalese to say “move on”. However, nothing has changed for the Tamils.
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    May I remind you that is what Sinhalese said and did after 71 and 89 JVP insurrections. The atrocities were equally bad in those cases, in additional there was absolutely no reaction from all the INGOS that are now screaming to get Mahinda and the brothers. In fact, if 89 is investigated properly, I am sure that many in the current UNP leadership, including that fearless leader Mr Ranil Wickramasingha will have a lot to answer for.

    There are many fathers and mothers in the South who still do not know what happened to their children in 89. However, most of the country said let’s move on after 89 and did so to. I know that it is important to get justice for these poor 5 students and I sincerely hope one day it will happen. What I don’t know is, is this the right time? Most important thing at the moment is to rebuild the society in the North and the East, do what is required for the IDPs and give them a hand to get back to their feet.

  96. mr dbs

    plz tell me are we and the likes of you wasting time talking and practising democracy with sinhala leaders who are drunk with anti-tamil tonic?

  97. Comment # 83. Chinthaka | January 6th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Dear Chinthaka

    Thanks for your reply to my comment.

    “It happened in the South. Therefore it should happen in the north is not a logical argument at all”. You seem to impress upon the readers of that view. It does not sound well.

    An action has to be assessed on sound ethical and moral law that govern a society.

    You seem to ‘justify the falsification of facts’ in order to ‘stand up’ for a comrade. How can we expect justice then, my dear consicientious human person?

    I do not know what background you come from. I can understand your ‘efforts’ to justify the brutal and ‘inhuman behaviour’ of the forces of the land, if you are somewhat connected with the forces of the country.
    Even then, ONE HAS TO BE FAIR.

    The weapons in the hands of the forces do not take away the responsibility on the part of the forces.

    There is a book written under the title of ‘ War Diary from Jaffna – An Eye Witness Account’. There must be some copies floating in the country. I had the chance to read it in full.

    Outside the country, you can find thisbook in many libraries and ‘human rights organizations’ inluding in some embassies.

    Please get a copy of it and read it for yourself.

    The book is a day to day account from the beginning of the military offensive against Jaffna in October 1995 and all the events that happened soon after the conclusion of the military offensive.

    During the war, about 80% of the infrstructures were totally destroyed – houses, schools, temples, churches, trees, hospitals. It was a heart breaking sight to see the destruction for the people who lived in that part of the town.

    After the war, according the war diary, there were whole sate looting by the troops.

    I know personally that the troops were looting the houses in the town. As I took a temporary abode near to Saint Joseph’s Catholic Press, Jaffna. I know for certainthat it was looted repeatedly by many groups of the troops who went on the main road in Jaffna.

    Dr. Abraham’s house was looted and the troops took away a costy piano from his house. Since Dr. Abraham was able exert some pressure on the military officials, he was able to get back his piano at a later date.
    Dr. Abraham is no more to talk about it.

    Persoanlly I considered my duty to write to Chandrika Kumaratunga, then President of the country, about these sad events in Jaffna. She did not have the courtesy even to acknowledge the receipt of the letter, leave alone a reply to my letter.

    On the contrary, I was reprimanded by the Jaffna Command for writing a letter to the President about the ‘sad events’ that happened at the conclusion of the war.

    I am sure that you are aware of the fact, about 700 people were missing after the military operation in Jaffna. Personally I knew the ‘killing aquad’ that was going around and doing these killings with the blessings of the ‘higher ups’. The killers put the victims in a mass grave in Ariyalai and this was unearthed. No action was taken on this serious crime.

    Since I lived through the ordeal of the war, I had many opportunities to share my thoughts with the military officials who were stationed in Jaffna after the military operation. To be fair, some of the Sinhala military offiicials were literally ‘cursing Chandrika as Bitch’ for getting so many houses, destroyed. They said, ” THE PEOPLE WORKED SO HARD TO BUILD THEIR HOUSES AND WITH ONE SINGLE BOMB, THE WHOLE HOUSE COMES DOWN IN RUMBLES.”

    Please permit to share another conversation that I had with a military officer came from Colombo on a short visit, with whom I shared the fact of looting. You would be surprised to hear what he said: ” Even the American troops looted in Kuwait.”

    What a comparison? You talk about one country and one ‘nation’. But when it comes to looting, it is a ‘different country’.

    I laughed at the calibre of the remark of the military officer who visited Jaffna from Colombo.

    FACTS HAVE TO BE CONFRONTED SQUARELY AND FAIRLY BEFORE DRAWING ANY VALID CONCLUSION.

    Since I was at the receiving end of a war in Jaffna, my considered view is that the WAR THAT WAS WAGEDVIN THE COUNTRY WAS ABSOLUTELY UNWANTED.

    Bad governance since the time of the independence led to the armed struggle.

    What is needed now is ‘GOOD GOVERNANCE’ for the benefit of the people. The end purpose of any good governance is to ‘ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE’ of all the citizens in the land.

    The modality of governance is to be determined by the ‘good’ that acrues to the people. Better the structure, the better the opportunity for people to have a ‘quality life’.

    ‘Regional autonomy, Federalism, Separatism, Unitary state’ are but different models of political structures. The ‘good governers’ should look at the ‘good of the people’ and see what model would deliver the goodsat the end of the day.

    But unfortunately, the succcessive governments failed very miserably and led our country to such a callous destruction and loss of so many lives.

    MAY TRUTH PREVAIL IN OUR COUNTRY.
    MAY JUSTICE ADORN THE CHAMBERS OF GOVERNMENTS.

    Dr. Kathir

    Fair to some of them

    .

  98. 30. Chinthaka  |  January 6th, 2011 at 1:18 am,

    It confirmes that you are a selfish racisst scum,If your neighbour or friend or relative even your mother is crying for your or any bodie’s help you would not help them because your are a selfish scum.

  99. While I agree that MR should initiate a full inquiry into this and punish those responsible for the crime, I hope you agree that, were the Tamil terrorists not created by the Tamil Terrorist Diaspora, the TTD, there would have been ZERO CASUALTIES.

    TTD and their agents, Tamil terrorists, are responsible for this senseless murder…and plus other 70,000.

    So I blame the TTD also.

  100. 98. Mahesh

    You may not know this, but the atrocities that were carried against JVP and by the JVP against their opponents were as equally bad. Only difference is the international media and human rights industry was completely silent at that time. Unfortunately it seems that these gets highlighted only when one racial group does it to another. Example, we are very familiar about the racial discrimination of Blacks by the Whites in US but only a few people knows and acknowledges that black-on-black violence is much more pervasive in US and the cross-racial violence.

    The point is that no one will benefit by trying to figure out who were the worst offenders and who suffered least. It is not that the people most suffered must be right. The bottom line should be even one act, carried out against any one, and should not be acceptable.

    I am not trying to defend anyone here, but the fact is most police forces in countries like Sri Lanka, and even India, usually have no hesitation in using brutal force during their day to day activities of maintaining civic order. They routinely beat up arrested people to get “confessions”. No body said anything when in the last few months the police went around in Sri Lanka gathering the key “underworld” figures who then very conveniently got killed, allegedly either by resisting arrest or trying to escape. Most people applauded the police/government action saying that getting rid of criminals was a good thing, with total disregard for the fact that rule of law for totally ignored.

    The sad truth is that in a country where the society allows and accepts extra-judicial actions when it comes to day to day policing, will certainly allow the same when fighting terrorism or a militant threat. It is absurd to think otherwise. The key I think is education right from the start. Not just the police and the armed forces, but every student needs to be taught about individual rights and human rights from Grade 1 in school so that when it comes to situations like this, people will automatically understand what is acceptable and what is not.

    Even in so called democracies of the West, where the rule of law is suppose to be sacrosanct, many abuses have happened in the name of fighting the “terrorists”. Not all of these cases have been persecuted and not all persecuted cases have found culprits. The whole world knows what happened to the US Helicopter pilots that fired on unarmed civilians even when it was shown very clearly that they could identify the people as unarmed. Absolutely nothing.

  101. R – Maran…

    [I asked myself do we need another VP.
    ]

    Waanga machaaaan… waanga!

    We can now tackle not one VP…. more than 1001 any time at the same time. Axes are being sharpened because that’s the only language the TTD would understand.

    Accept my appreciation for speaking your true Tamil terrorist mind.

    Again… Waanga machaaaan… waanga!

  102. # 98 Mahesh

    Did JVP kill civilians in mass scale just because they belong to a different race.. (Dollar-kent Farm, Kokilai-Nayaru, Colombo various bombings, Border village attackes, Aranthalawa, Anuradhapura, Kandy maligaawa attacks and what not)

    Did JVP run seperate controlled areas that armed forces deprived of enteriing with the support of foreign govts and fraction of civilians that supported racial ideologies?

    Did JVP come to a militorily strong stage that they could kill an Indian PM and SL president, opposition leader, almost kill another president?

    Did JVP run a militory campaign based on pure racial grounds against another race.. that people cannot have any option as they were born to, not that they choose a race?

    Did JVP indiscriminately kill government forces, or carry out conventional type attacks on forces?

    Without doing anything above JVP arms struggle got wiped out killing 60,000 sinhala youth in which over half were complete innocents. Actually most of them got killed by dragging out of own homes where they were sleeping. Let alone sophisticated weapons that LTTE had, they didn’t hv even a club to protect them selves.

    Also don’t forget that in 1971 SLAF attacked southern jungles indiscriminately where JVP’ers were believed to be hiding.

    Please come out of the mindset that LTTE created for you guys.. It’s NOT only you. We also suffered them enough relatively. But not in isolation. Cos always the army’s reaction followed the action of so-called rebels.

  103. DBSJ – Happy New Year – 2011
    Thank you for the much needed article. I gotta admit, you’ve got some balls to write the truth and criticise where ever needed. You must take care of yourself as we all saw what happened to Lasantha.
    Like you said, these were innocent kids who held their heads high and straight. We are eagerly waiting for justice to be served, don’t know how long that will take…..or will it ever come out. Only glimse of hope left, time is running out….will wait.
    May my prayers and sympathies go to the people who are directly/indirectely affected by this incident.
    DBSJ,
    I do not know if the MR appointed LLRC would work but I am starting to believe a small blog such as this will definitely create a difference.
    I am a diaspora tamil and I have no problem saying “sorry” to individual like Dushy Ranatunga for all the harms we may have caused as Tamils. I strongly believe he has the mindset to do so too. I believe only through open minded conversation we can have a true reconciliation.
    DBSJ, Please continue your work…….and thank you!

    Thank you.Best wishes for 2011………DBSJ

  104. # 98 Mahesh:

    Did you kill any JVP in the prison like the welikade, Kaluthra or Binduniweva?

    ———

    During 1988-1990 JVP insurgency, one medical student Thrimavitharana of the Colombo Medical Faculty had nails driven into his skull by goons of the then UNP government!

  105. # 103 Anonymous

    I’m not a racist, but I’m a pragmatic person. It’s not about what I would do when someone cries in that part of the night where danger is everywhere, but what needs to be done by a sane person and what sort of risks he/she should be expecting by doing so.

    # 102 Dr. Kathir

    I know my reply to you cannot be fully justified as you are speaking on the grounds of morality while I was talking on the grounds of practicality and fair expectations.

    We all knew nothing happened in isolation. There was an action from the parts of LTTE which attracted reaction from Army. Also, when you see the naked turth assocated with civil war situations around the world this wasn’t any worse, but would be better I’m sure.

    I have no direct links to armed forces, but I know how they interpret from their angle. People using pen can use erasers or correction fluid, but those using guns cannot do that. If they are delay their whole lives can be erased, that’s why.

    I’m not necessarily arguing to prove anything of you said wrong, but they need to be viewed from a diffrent angle to make more sense.

  106. This is a sad report.

    Why do we always say, ‘innocent tamils’ or ‘innocent Sinhalese’ . My assumption is that we call innocent for those who will not take up arms in and armed conflict.
    Whether Sinhalese or tamil this is a tragedy for the loved ones of these boys. Fear, confusion and deep hatred all contributed in the deaths of these boys.

    Asking for a trial and bringing in to justice the perpetrators of this crime will be a tall order.
    A lot of us think that Sri Lanka was a peaceful country with no war taking place and civilian courts could bring justice to any excess by the official armed force.

    But it was not so – the artical itself states Trinco was tense. If a city is tense it was a bit foolhardy for seven youth to gather out in the open and have a chat about good old days. Perhaps the boys felt safe? Perhaps the parents felt safe for the boys to gather and have a chat? Why did they not meet in anothers house?. Why meet in the evening – trinco gets dark at six. its in the east coast.

    DBS’s article can be analysed to imagine the background. the trigger – the grenade was not thrown at the boys. – it was thrown at a security point.

    Now please get the picture.

    Tense city, seven youth gathered in one place. grenade thrown at the security. Security unable to understand the tamil boys? – What will they say if asked why are you here? Will they say – no we are having a chat about our school days?. I think we have to be realistic in this instance.

    My deepest sympathies to the loved ones left behind.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Dilshan

    As far as I know the grenade was not thrown at any security check post.It was exploded close to where the boys were butwas not intended to cause any harm to them.

    As if on cue security personnel arrived immediately in a truck and rounded up the boys. They did not give chase to the three-wheeler from which the grenade was thrown. The vehicle was not stopped at any of the sentry posts either.

    The suspicion is that the boys at the beach had been noted and the grenade incident was “engineered” to justify “action” against them

    It is also suspected that the personnel involved were members of a contingent of Special Task Force deploed to reinforce the security in Trincomalee because of the tense situation.

    Some senior Police officers including SSP Kapila Jayasekera as well as the additional secretary of Defence at that time former DIG Kotakadeniya were allegedly complicit in the cover up attempt

  107. My Dear sweet cup cakes,

    Anony says “Well I suppose the flower petal Dushy is unaware of these events but of course gravely concerned about the Singhalese murderers of SL. He is living among the saints. What a fraud.”

    Right now old chap, I am living above the misty hills of Kandy. I am truly living among saints!

    Every evening the mosque howls and calls the goat herders scattered around the deserts of Kandy to prayer. It seems they have no digital watches. It is abruptly followed by the Buddhist temple playing their CD via loudspeaker so that the asses, sorry, the masses could listen to pirith via loudspeaker.

    See, all saints, competing for business of the good lord conning the peasants, the favourite past time in the motherland, — Who can con the peasants more successfully?

    The Sinhalese are a mirror image of the Tamils.

    I have met Tamil doctors in London, who were prepared to ignore the death of Sinhalese innocents by the LTTE because they thought it was for the greater good of their Tamil cause of liberation from the Sinhalese devil.

    Similarly, I have met Sinhalese educated professionals who are prepared to ignore the death of Tamil innocents by the army and the state, because they think it is for the greater good of their cause of eliminating terrorism.

    Both are neanderthals still living in caves and listening to pirith.

    These fools don’t realise that once the human rights barrier is lowered it is their own lives that will get affected.

    It is their own human rights which will then be in peril as, they have opened the front door of their home for a murderer of their choice to enter so that they can kill some innocent in their front room for their foolish cause.

    A bunch of tribalist fools living in paradise, no different to the hutu’s and tutsi’s of Ruwanda.

    Then they will go and worship that tooth in the temple, which is not a human one.

    yes, cup cakes, I have seen the tooth in the company of one of your kings.

    By the way, no mini-skirts to see an animal tooth marketed as a human tooth.

    I wonder what Buddha would have said if he knew that an animal tooth was being marketed by his followers as his tooth for the prestige, culture and foolishness of the “mothland” tribe.

    A bit like that Turin shroud.

    ==========================
    Thank you David.

    The response for Trinco piece is evidence that it is disturbing the minds of tribalists as well who are trying hard to defend their murderers, who are of course saints to them……no ..no… white knights in shinning armour until they have to run out of London leaving their bags behind…another bunch of fools trying to be weeraya’s going to London against advice.

    The World’s best of course….

  108. “WAR THAT WAS WAGEDVIN THE COUNTRY WAS ABSOLUTELY UNWANTED.”

    Dr Kathir — Comment 102,

    Absolutely. I agree 100%.

    However the facts are– VP declared war by killing 13 soldiers of the Srilankan Armed Forces.Right?

    Since then he was given several opportunities to have control of the North and the East al;though he was a terrorist leader.

    These offers came from three elected Presidents in a demcratic country.
    And one PM.The latter offering him all what he asked for except allowing him to call it the Nation of Tamil Eelaam.

    The latter;s offer was guaranteed by the West, the so called INC with promises of punitive actions on the Elected Government to ensure its adgerence to the deal and unlimited Funds fot the LTTE.

    Had Mr VP accepted any of these offers there would not have been this War, Right?

  109. To 98 Mahesh,

    Thank you for your genuine concerns on my comments which shows you have to learn a lot on Sri Lanka. Here are my replies.

    Q: Did you ever use air power against the JVP? Did you ever use the Phosphorus powder against the JVP?

    A: Did JVP came with artilery, Suicide bombing etc or more correctly did they demarcate a separate defacto territory or millitary bases of hundreds of acres to be deserved Air Attacks?? Well had they done that forces would have defineky used air power. They were just using primary tactics of Marxist insurgency. But interesting to know in both 1971 and 1989 SLAF used helicopter gunships to attack JVP and in 1989 once such attack targetted a parade in Tissamaharama sacred city killing dozens.

    Q: There is allegation that you used Phosphorus powder against the LTTE in the Anandapuram battle.

    A: I don’t know if this is correct. As I feel some pro LTTE elements tried compromise their defeat and loosing last hope of “Theepan’s” ability. If this is true my personal opinion is to crush a ruthless and deep rooted force like LTTE we have to use any un ethical weapons and means since LTTE was intrumenting such tacticts from the inception. As I know the brutal LTTE women carders were assigned to hack the woulded Sinhala soldiers and innocent kds and mothers and fathers in those so called border villages. If I have to decide I would opt not only for phosporus but even nuclear to make my mother land free of LTTE. (Well if you need more on this ask from USA Human Rights watch dog on what they did to Vietnam).

    Q: Did you kill any JVP in the prison like the welikade, Kaluthra or Binduniweva?

    A: I feel really sorry of your being a victim of LTTE perception this much…….Over 90% of JVP prisoners undervent enormous torture from beating with iron rods, ana penetration with sharpnels, acid bath, live burning etc and be aware those were done by Sinhalese soldiers to the Sinhalese prisoners…

    Like I said in my original comment 59, those Tamils who clap for this article with ethnic glasses on brings the reconciliation NO WHERE. You are so narrow minded and want Sinhalese to be so generous ? No way mate….

  110. “A bunch of tribalist fools living in paradise, no different to the hutu’s and tutsi’s of Ruwanda.”

    Dushy,

    You correctly assessed our people.
    If I have any hope for Srilanka, only because souls like you still exist in our society.

  111. Appropriate & fitting quote from the Island used..Thank you DBS

    http://www.island.lk/2006/01/05/editorial.html

    “We have no way of disciplining a terror outfit or teaching it the value of human life. But that we can do to the armed forces and this is why probes into allegations of criminal activity by the security personnel are necessary.”

  112. 113. Dushy Ranetunge

    Right now old chap, I am living above the misty hills of Kandy. I am truly living among saints!
    ————————————————————–

    Now the question that some of us cupcakes have is : why? oh but why?

    Reading your ramblings in TransCurrents, one would have thought that you were in permanent exile in the civilized London. One would have thought that in the island of Asian Hutus and Tutsis, anybody who disagreed with the King (that would certainly be you) would end up god knows where, after a very pleasant trip in a white van, specially arranged by the King given the amount of abuse that you have hurled at him over the years in the media.

    So we cupcakes certainly do not understand how you would feel safe in our tribal land. However, one hopes that you are enjoying good weather in Kandy, certainly better than the piddly 10 cm of snow that caused London to stop functioning for a week.

    We also hope that you are not hidden under a bed in a barricaded room in a Walawva in Kandy, screaming, “On one side comes that infernal noise from the pirith and drums of the place where they worship animal tooth, from other side comes noise from the idiots who are praying towards martyrdom and 70 virgins – so how can I have my 10 year old pol glass and listen to some nice baila in peace?” Just like a young prince 2000 years ago told his queen mother “On one side is the mighty ocean. On the other side are the Demelas, so O’ dear mother, how can I sleep straight?”

    Now I think most of us Sinhala cupcakes are too ignorant to understand your reference to Hutus. But I certainly think that the educated, intelligent, high cast, Vellala cupcakes of Jaffna will not appreciate you associating them with some “ignorant and uncivilized Africans” from Ruwanda. Be careful, they might even organize a demonstration at the Arrivals at Heathrow when you go back to the civilized world.

    One final appeal to you Mr. Ranatunga. I don’t think calling us cupcakes is right. After all, these are times when nationalism and patriotism are suppose to be running rampant in our tribal land. So can we be called “pol hakuru” and”thal hakuru” from now on please?

  113. # 115 Anuradha from Galle

    Again well said mate… Many tamils don’t have a slightest idea of what we, ordinary sinhalese went thro’ or they conveniently forget for their own benefit…

    By end of 1983 only tamils mainly had grievences as far as the racial conflicts/desputes are concerned, so sinhalese majority govts did their somewhat best to come to negotiations recognising a terrorist outfit having some representation of ordinary tamils too…

    But by 2009 sinhalese grievences were over the top, but tamils appointed LTTE did realise nothing about it and got themselves completely wiped out as a result of failure to understand “You cannot step into the same river twice”.

  114. In Terrorism, governments do not know who the terrorist and who is not. The game is for a minority to terrorise the majority to capture power by force. Some where in 1974 the SAS in UK shot dead three suspected IRA in Gibraltar when they were unarmed and it was a big mistake. There are very big similarities between JVP insurrections of 1971, 1989 and Tamil LTTE terrorism 1974-2009. Both were done by a minority group against a democratically elected government. Both were suppressed with killings of innocents. Importantly the Singhalese dominated governments did not differentiate between Singhalese and Tamils in their treatment. Both were killed. Both the JVP and LTTE leadership lived with relative comfort until the last days. Both mislead the poorer people to follow their misguided ideology. Although BDS thinks these boys were not LTTE whether they were really so or whether they had any connections we really do not know. In such conflicts everywhere in the world, innocents always get killed whether we like that or not. Such is the state of affaires. In Kundasale in Kandy I witnessed seven members of the same Singhalese family killed by security forces in 1989 as suspected JVP when they were not. How come this Trincomalee incident is different? The lesson we got to learn is when we take up arms to settle issues, the result can be anything and everything. We then cannot cry out foul because the result is not to our liking. My message to the Tamils who supported the LTTE openly and covertly as well as the Singhalese who supported JVP is this.

    Secondly I don’t understand what this article is supposed to achieve at this point of time.

    I would have been surprised if you had understood………..DBSJ

  115. Comment 116– Ratna

    “A bunch of tribalist fools living in paradise, no different to the hutu’s and tutsi’s of Ruwanda.”

    People who read niche print media like the NY Times , and Bloomberg Report know that Srilanka is one of the fastest growing economies and one of the most desirable places to visit at present.

    This is all within five years of the current regime lead by the most capable and the best Leader Srilanka ever had since King Dutugamunu.

    22 Million, irrespective of religious or race differences are enjoying the current freedom they have under this great man , and and they are moving forward to enjoy the fruits of this freedom and prosperity in the coming years.

    Of course there are people with sour tastes in their mouths for various reasons and they will come up with all sorts of comments to denigrate and ridicule the progress of the vast majority of this beautiful Island, which was subjected to thirty years of unnecessary and unwanted misery by people with in as well as outside.

    Hutus and Tutsis are also human beings who are still craving for proper leadership to get them out of their poverty.

    Unfortunately they had to under go untold misery and suffering for no fault of the majority innocents.

    It is rather pathetic to quote them as examples to score petty political points not only because it is totally irrelevant, but because it is not human to get joy out of innocent people’s misery.

  116. —-“an animal tooth was being marketed by his followers as his tooth for the prestige, culture and foolishness of the “mothland” tribe.—-

    This is what Mr Ranetunge calls the Tooth Relic of Lord Buddha!!!!

    There are thousands of Sinhal Buddhists who go to St Ann’s Kochkade and St Ann’s Tanwaila,

    I have met hundreds of Sinhala Buddhists in Rome who regularly worship at the Bassilica,

    I myself have visited Holy Lourdes a couple of years ago and plan to visit the birth place of Jesus Christ. next.

    As Buddhists we have been trained to have open minds and broad understanding of different faiths,

    We do not stoop to the level of people who hurl insults at religious beliefs of their icons,

    We can argue our points pertaining to any social and political issues without involving religions or religious beliefs and practices.

  117. # 109 Nurudal
    “I am a diaspora tamil and I have no problem saying “sorry” to individual like Dushy Ranatunga for all the harms we may have caused as Tamils. I strongly believe he has the mindset to do so too”.
    _________________________________

    This is the problem with many tamils, speaking about reconciliation. While they, themselves are being from Tamil hardliners to LTTE sympathisers, they expect all sinhalese to be Dushy Ranetungas who redicule his/her own culture.

    Nurudal, why don’t you fly a kite and then try your luck. There won’t be many expecting your ‘apology’ other than your own kinds such as Dushy Ranetungas.

  118. 59. Anuradha from Galle |,

    This confirms the minority complex mindset of the majority Buddhist Sinhala cup cakes are the primary cause of the destruction of the Island of Ceylon since Independence . And most of these mindset cup cakes comments here seems to have selective amnesia for the 1st 30 years after Independence.

  119. War was declared not in 1983 in 1977/78 by JRJ just after the anti Tamil pogram on his radio address to the nation he declared to Tamils If you want war we will give you war if you want peace we will give peace!! I still can Remember wivedly. I was in the Uni in Kandy Just after lisining to this address one of the Professor transported us to the refuee camp in the Trinity college Kandy and from there we were transported to our home lands under military escourt in coaches.

  120. My Dear Rose buds,

    Why, Why, says Ranjan from Toronto and wonders if I feel safe.

    Because its my country as well old chap and I will claim my acre….my eelam, lanka, taprobane.

    For your information all newspapers in Sri Lanka are self censoring because they are shit scared. Thats press freedom for you.

    Kalu says “Srilanka is one of the fastest growing economies”

    Kalu, a quick maths lesson.

    Start from 1 and go to 2 and its an economic growth of 100%

    Start from 100 and go to 102 and its an economic growth of 2%.

    So the man at 2 says, ” hey check me out baby, I am 100% growth.”

    chill out Kalu, I too sit in churches in England and Rome and enjoy the tranquility. I have done so in Mosques and worship at Hindu temples and Buddhist ones but that does not mean that they are all not money making cons, each one trying to increase their revenue with bigger loudspeakers and more colourful celebrations and more con stories.

    Go to Naga Dipa in Jaffna. Its a con.

    There is no archeological department board their saying its an ancient site. Some Buddhist monk went over there after independence and decided that thats the spot that Buddha visited, when Buddha never stepped out of North India, which also did not exist at the time. Ptolomy’s map shows the whole of Jaffna as Nagadipa and on the peninsula there is a place called Nagakovil.

    The most recent con, is the site in Jaffna now visited by hordes of Sinhalese as the spot that Sangamitta landed.

    I visited Jaffna under army escort during the 1990’s and there was nothing there and now there is a temple, statues and bo tree and loads of peasants are going there and worshipping.

    Then there is that so called ravana trail, another con, to fool Indian tourists.

    You should go and put a flag up somewhere and claim it to be the spot where Vijaya landed.

    Chinthaka daaaaarling,

    I am not ridiculing my culture sweetie, I am simply pointing out that the buddhism that we have in Sri Lanka is not buddhism, but some other crap.

    Did Buddha want his tooth worshipped?

    Did Buddha say not to wear mini skirts when coming to see him, when most women at the time were topless.

    What you call culture is something man made to suite their prejudices and business plans.

    Sweetie, if you want to con your self and go and worship an animal tooth and convince yourself that it is buddha’s tooth, I have no objections. Its a free country and its your free choice and the temple will be richer.

    Some historical information that you may not know.

    The Portuguese occupied Kandy and they claim that they seized the tooth and ground it to dust in public.

    I love Buddhism Darling, but not all this crap you get in Sri Lanka. I went to my local temple in Kandy and the priest has a picture of armed Sri Lankan soldiers inside the temple.

    What has men with guns got to do with Buddhism?????

    Its the same with other religions.

    My local hardware store guys are muslims and they pray morning noon and night.

    I once questioned him and told him that my muslim mate who parties, loves women and wine is a multi millionaire having a super life jetting around the world educating his kids in the UK and just celebrated his 50th by hiring the viceroy express to the hill club.

    I know another muslim girl who visited me in Kandy and had wild boar hunted from the adjoining land and they say Muslims don’t eat pork.

    So I told the poor Hardware Muslim, that he prays morning noon and night and has a hard life, but my muslim mates who party, drink, womanise and eat pork have a super life.

    He was confused at first and then told me that god will punish them…….

    So no virgins for my mates. He will be gutted!!!!!!!!

  121. Srilanka’s major problem is huge gap between the literacy & real education. It is fatal when it is combined with bias, racism, poor awareness of history of our ownself.
    it feeds each other & snowballs.
    Out come will be that breaching the rights of every sphere of an individual & be complacent about it.
    & falsely believing that we have moved on or moving on,
    only to realize that country keep on seeing violence one way or another by state or non state actors.
    When guns turn towards us or our kith & kins, the story is different.
    Until then keep killing the messengers shouting from the roof top loud & clear.

  122. 122. Kalu Albert

    —-”an animal tooth was being marketed by his followers as his tooth for the prestige, culture and foolishness of the “mothland” tribe.—-
    This is what Mr Ranetunge calls the Tooth Relic of Lord Buddha!!!!

    ———————————————————-
    Some people are born with class. Some, they would not know class even it hit them on the nose.

    Looks like all the tea and open-faced sandwiches in Britain could not impart even a tiny sense of sensitivity into our friend.

    I am sure you know the Sinhala term “ballage walige una bambuwe dammath diga harinna ba” or ” A dogs tail can not be straightened even if it is put in a straight bamboo tube”

  123. I think this article is timely at the eve of 2nd year remebrance of Lasantha’s brutal death. Its an honour to that fearless editor who allowed to carry your article then.

    its an irony our nation had suffered immensly for many years even after independence from clonisation. Many youths have lost lives at the hands of state terror and caused much pain to their parents.

    The innocent blood will cry out for justice and the perpatrators and their supporters and their next generations will suffer without any mercy.

    Wheels of justice will surely role in the cycle of life.

    my deepest condolences to all the families of victims of terror.

    Its sad to see yet the tamil & sinhala mindsets of segregation continues. I hope that people will stand for justice inspite of who committed against whom.
    Every person born in this nation should feel they belong to this country and can live with respect and dignity.

    I’m very disturbed about the recent developments in the north & east. why are these areas looks like under a curse?

  124. Dear Chintaka #123

    While they, themselves are being from Tamil hardliners to LTTE sympathisers, they expect all sinhalese to be Dushy Ranetungas who redicule his/her own culture.

    Recently I’m not a fan of Dushmantha myself- he seems to be rather bitter that the war was won by village bumpkins like Mahinda instead of proper elites like Chandrika- but there was nothing in Nurudal’s post showing that Nurudal likes to watch Sinhalese make fun of their own culture. Dushy was just one person here who condemned the Trinco 5 killings. And Nurudal had even apologised for atrocities committed by certain Tamils!

    Would you feel better if the Tamils thanked Wimal Weerawansa and John Seneviratne for trying to remove Tamil from the national anthem???

  125. Dear Kalu Albert #122

    I am a Buddhist and do not feel insulted when the Tooth Relic is brought up. The few people I know who have seen it have told me that it cannot be the tooth of a human being. The original, if it indeed was the original, was destroyed by the Archbishop of Goa in 1561, although it is hard to tell as the tooth had changed hands many times over the centuries.

    Dushy is correct when he says that the Buddha would not have expected his remains to be venerated in the way that they have been. His last words were to be vigilant for all phenomena are transient. That would include his own remains!

  126. # 124 Illankai

    When sinhalese have majority mindset you call them ‘superiority complex’, when they have equality mindset and talk about their own grievences (which are not different from tamils) you call them ‘minority complex’. Good for you mate and your agenda.

    # 125 Illankai

    We know the terrorst war didn’t start in 1983. But due to the emotions of few sinhalese and utter stupidity in JRJ govt, tamil grievences rose to the climax point in 1983 justifying arms taking from the parts of tamils. But their contineuos ignorance & cheating acts to peace calls + greed for sinhalese blood caused sinhalese grievences against LTTE/tamils to rise up dramatically making the full stop to so-called struggle.

    You lost the credibility because of high reliance on a fascist terrorist outfit at which you blindly threw your entire future.

  127. # 126 Dushy Ranetunga

    You don’t respect any culture. Culture is a discipline that certain community come under, no matter how much exaggerations, made up stories are there that’s the belief of people you need to have a respect towards, at least when you’re in the community.

    If you want to challenge each & every matter in a religion/culture for that doesn’t effectively have evidence to prove, people will end up where most of the west is at now. No taste in life, high dependance on material stuff and all kinds of frustrations and depression wide spread will be the result of such a society you can only booze, womanise and party.

    The sentimental value that one has towards the religion/culture should not be undermined the way you do. Did you ever try your similar confident crap at dalada maligawa etc towards Hindus, Islamic or Christians other than the poor hardware owner?

  128. 128. Ranjan, Toronto

    Some people are born with class. Some, they would not know class even it hit them on the nose.

    ———

    Well said.

    Its not just about sensitivity. Some of his arguments are outright stupid. Like Devananda in the previous article, for Ranetunge also, absence of proof IS proof of absence!

  129. dbs

    what is really the point of this article today? . I know these were respected middle class children who were killed . other than that and even with that how is this different from over 100000 killed bothways in this war . mostly in atrocities from either side .

    Thankfully the war ended . hopefully we wont have to see another in this lifetime . you may talk about justice . and how important it is etc etc . but how about justice for the other 99995 that will that even happen .

    if the LTTE was having their own kingdom would they have procecuted their own , would you have even been allowed to write an article on the kent and dollar farms .or many of those other atrocities.

    I understand you are a journalist and you write where wherr your whim takes you . but is this worthwhile journalisum ?

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Yes.It is worthwhile journalism and yes I have written about lots of LTTE atrocities including the Kent and dollar farm massacres. Interestingly the censors in Colombo passed that article but not the ones I wrote after that about massacres of amil civilians by the armed forces in the Manal Aaru/Weli-Oya region

  130. 128. Ranjan, Toronto ,
    It appears you are Not only regilously chalanged and you are ignorant in general knolewledge of the the global culture of various people althouugh your are suporsed to be living ia democratic western country without any oppresion which your brotheren are under going in your beloved buddhist country.

  131. 128. Ranjan, Toronto,122. Kalu Albert,

    “ballage walige una bambuwe dammath diga harinna ba” or ” A dogs tail can not be straightened even if it is put in a straight bamboo tube” You have put it absulutely right.

    This is what Tamils felt until 1970s/1980s about n
    your Tribal leaders who had the power of the country. That was the reson we Tamils decided to leave you and look after our affairs and let you look after your affairs in your part of Sinhala Nation(country) but you were not happy about that as well. and helped to make a monster VP.

    And still unable to learn the lession ie “ballage walige una bambuwe dammath diga harinna ba” or ” A dogs tail can not be straightened even if it is put in a straight bamboo tube.

  132. Hi Mr. Jeyaraj,

    I am saddened after reading this article.

    Mr. Dushy Ranetunge; I wholeheartedly agree with you.

    I wish the perpetrators are still brought to justice, eventhough it had happened 5 years ago.

    I am proud of our Armed Forces and their achievements but the few criminals who have tarnished the image of our forces do not belong in there rather in jail!

  133. 126 Dushy Ranetunga
    Keep writing mate. You got some good points. I don’t agree with everything what you write ,but there are some really good home truths many people would not dare to touch. Even I thought that you were a woman, until DBSJ mentioned that you are a man in reply to Kalu Albert, who got really stuck on to you. Whoever you are, I know that you an Atheist. I am leaning towards Atheism myself.
    Isn’t it nice, when we are born as Buddhists, we have the freedom to thnik and do whatever we like. But in some religions, if one goes against their rules, that person will be beheaded.
    So, just be glad that you are born as a Buddhist in Sri Lanka.

  134. 132. wijayapala

    Facts are one thing. The way you say it another. The question of the authenticity of the tooth relic has been an open secret. The manner in which our friend chose to bring it up and rub it in the face of every Buddhist was disgraceful. That is what defines class and crass.

  135. 138. ilankai tamil / if not eelamtamil
    What you say is partly true. But what is also true is that a lot of Sinhalese might even have agreed with you had your requirements and demands were cast in manner of a class struggle, similarly to what JVP did. However, you politicians in the mindset of “we are superior to them” elected to talk about chasing Sinhalese from the north and making footwear out of Sinhala skins. Then when your “boys” had the upper hand, instead of settling for what was realistic, you wanted practically everything. Less than 10% of the population demanding 1/3 of the country and 2/3 of the coastline is pretty silly.

    So it seems to me that the dog’s tail analogy fits both of us.

  136. 137. Buddhi
    No question, I am definitely regilously challenged. Although I would like to call myself a Buddhist, I don’t have a deep understanding of Buddhism, I don’t go to temples other than to enjoy the art and the archeology at those places. However, I try to follow the 5 precepts to the best of my abilities and try not to harm others in my daily life. In that sense, I am a much better Buddhist than the most. So I have no problem when you say that I am regilously challenged.

    But I am curious when you say that I am ignorant in general knolewledge of the the global culture of various people. Care to explain mate?

  137. These killing proved that Srilankan security force wanted to create a physiological fearful environment among Tamils .
    it is not possible for Tamils to form large arm group like LTTE . But it is possible for them to form a small intensity arm group against Govt . will it happen in current situation DBS ?

  138. DBS, I was never trying to justify what happened.

    What happened was a tragedy. Yes I believe that there is enough details, evidence and eyewitness accounts to hold an inquiry. Not perhaps to bring back the dead but perhaps put forward the whole story and let the parents and loved ones know that some justice has been done.

    My point was that:
    Knowing the attitude of the SLA, knowing the situation it was a bit foolhardy for the boys to have a chat.

    I do not believe that there could be a ‘plot’ as you say to engineer a grenade being thrown and then a round up for interrogation. Round ups, interrogation happened without even a dog barking for that matter.

    I tend to perceive from reading your article that a grenade was thrown by someone, definitely not at the boys. I know Trinco after working there last year and the locality. There were checkpoints every hundred yards. No grenade can be thrown without causing a suspicion that it is thrown at a security point. The grenade was not thrown into somebody’s residence.

    my conclusion.
    a. It was foolish to have a social chit chat at that time.
    b. the forces were tence
    c. Yes there should have been NO cover up.
    d. That it was an engineered murder – NO
    e That it was very wrong – YES.

    Once again it is very very pertinent to write or rewrite about what happened although it may not cause any good being done but just as a reminder that we too mourn the death of any loved one – even the hardest of the LTTE, as they are all sons or brothers of someone.

    Never let these situations arise again!

  139. # 131 Wijayapala

    You got it up side down mate. When Nurudal said he doesn’t mind saying sorry to sinhalese like Dushy who was condeming his own culture and trying to be the sinhalese hero among tamils, what does it imply? Many people condemned or felt sorry about the killing of 5 youth, but why Nurudal specifically chose Dushy to be a sinhalese model of his choice?

    Wimal Weerawansa, John seneviratne craps are your day dreaming stuff man.. Where do they fall here from?

  140. 144. sankar

    I think it is good for tamils to come out of the “arm group” mindset.

    Tolerance and peaceful protest is the prudent way even if gross injustice is done and Tamils are treated as second class citizens.

  141. My Dear cuddly puddings,

    If we had real buddhism instead of all this man made “culture” based on prejudices and business plans, we will truly be living in paradise.

    Instead we are killing each other, getting chased out of London, and changing national anthems and enjoying fasting unto death in Bullers road, sinhalised to Bauddaloka mawatha, beacuse some git thought it fashionable to go around changing road names, or more sinhalising them.

    Now Dickmans Road is Lester James Peiris Mawatha. He is my relative, but I don’t want Dickmans road to be changed because of the prejudices or fancies of someone.

    My Daarling Chinthaka

    You say “people will end up where most of the west is at now. No taste in life, high dependance on material stuff and all kinds of frustrations and depression wide spread will be the result of such a society you can only booze, womanise and party.”

    you guys keep saying this, but then are dying to send your kids to international school and live the Western lifestyle. Now the Mahinda mama wants the whole country to learn Singlish.

    If the killers of Trinco were shed of their man made “culture” and were true buddhists , christians or Muslims, those children would be alive today and with great hope and expectations they and their families would be enjoying life.

  142. Chinthaka  

    Comment # 111

    As I scroll up and down the comments for this article, I see Chinthaka’s name appearing pretty often. I do not know how serious minded Chinthaka is.

    I give you the benefit of the doubt and I wish to respond to your views on ‘being practical’.

    Being practical is one thing but ‘Pragmatism’ is altogether a different philosophy. You seem to confuse these two ideas and creating more confusion in the minds of the readers of this column.

    Pragmatism is a definite philosophy that stipulates that ‘pragmatism’ is the criterion of morality. Although lot of publicity was given to this view among the intelligentia, yet it does not hold water among the serious thinkers.

    Another point that I see in your comments is that you seem to water down the ‘attrocities of the Sri Lankan forces’ – killing, rapings and lootings etc – as though they do not have any consequences.

    But when you mention these very things perpetrated by the JVP in the south, you were disturbed over the very things that you ‘water down’ when it comes to the Sri Lankan forces serving in the North and East among the Tamils.

    There must be some sort of consistent and reliable criterion for your judgements.

    However, I respect your freedom to share your views.

    Comment # 114

    Thanks Mahawamsa for agreeing to my view that ‘”THE WAR WAGED IN THE COUNTRY WAS ABSOLUTELY UNWARRANTED.”

    Please permit me to explicate my views on war.

    A political war against the Tamil minority began already at the time of independence. The various racial riots have been well recorded in the history of the country. How many innocent Tamils were killed prior to 1983 in the country?

    You would be surprised to know that ‘NO SINHALA PERSON HAD BEEN KILLED IN THE COUNTRY BY TAMIL FOR POLITICAL REASON TILL 1983.” This conclusion is based on the objective studies done by impartial socio political analyst.

    But on the other hand, many innocent Tamils had been killed both by the Government Forces and by the ordinary Sinhala people. These are all facts.

    When I used the word ‘WAR’ I meant the entire gamut of the ‘war machines’ right from the time of the independence.

    Mahawamsa also mentions another fact that LTTE was given the option for a settlement through peace talks and negotiations by various Sinhala democratic governments.

    I was in Jaffna – currently I am in Jaffna – for all the peace talks. You should have seen the upbeat of the Tamil people whenever there was a peace talk. The sale of the local dailies went up on those days.

    I cannot voucher for the genuiness on the part of the LTTE as I was not a member to it. But I am aware that they were too interessted in them and showed lot of seriousness in them.

    The defense minister, Gota gave many interviews about the ‘successful completion’ of the war against the Tamil Tigers. In all these interviews, he said very categorically the GOVERNMENT WAS NOT INTERESTED IN PEACE TALKS. IT WAS DURING THE TIME OF RELATIVE PEACE, THEY NEGOTIATED FOR ARMS DEALS AND PREPARED FOR ALL OUT WAR AGAINST THE TIGERS.”

    Gota was aware of the mind of his brother with regard to this point and talked about it in these interviews.. He clearly expressed the EXPLICIT INTENT OF HIS GOVERNMENET IN his interviews

    The peace talks orchestrated during the tenure of Chandrika Kumaratunga did not bring about the end result because there was not a ‘GENUINE DESIRE FOR PEACE SETTLEMENT’ from the part of the government.

    One can make a big political talks, but if the words are not matched by action, the intelligent people can understand the nuances of duplicity.

    Independent thinkers seem to write that The ‘WAR OF RESISTENCE’ on the part of the Tamils had become a necessity because the way the Tamils were treated by the successive governments. (THIS IS NOT MY IDEA, PLEASE MARK!)

    When doing an analytical studies, it is important to have a ‘bigger picture’ . Any research on the ethnic issue of Sri Lanka has to be of such nature.

    Thanks Mahawamsa for reading my comments.

    Dr. Kathir

  143. 144. Sankar,

    yes it is possible. but it is suisidal for the intensity arm group. Government forces are like the ‘incredible hulk’ !! the more one tries to confront and anger the fellow the larger and meaner it will transform in to.
    Be wise all sri lankans no confrontation with the giant. Unless you have God by your side like David facing Goliath, don’t try your luck.

  144. 140 — Marusira,

    There is no Atheism here mate.

    It is pure Sinhala Buddhist Bashing which is a centuries old tradition in Srilanka.

    It has come back with vengeance recently for obvious reasons.

    132— Wijepala,

    As a youngster I didn’t have the privilege to watch the Kandy Perahera.

    A recent screening of a documentary about the history of the Perahera astonished me.

    It is the only cultural event in Asia that has been conducted in the same manner for several centuries despite the fact that the country had been under Christian rulers for over 500 years.

    The dancers, the dancing, the musical instruments and the costumes encompass every aspect of the Srilankan life in the Kingdom.

    It is a living testimony to the magnificent and long standing culture of our country.

    What better way to destroy this invaluable piece of our history and culture than to hurl ridicule at the relic itself which is the basis of this wonderful and world renowned cultural event.

    Srilank has survived as a united country preserving Buddhism as the religion of the vast majority for 2600 years.

    The people who saved this unity, culture and it’s survival even to date are the rural Buddhists majority..

    If this vast majority believe that it is Buddha’s Tooth so be it.

    If you don’t believe it because few of your mates said so is irrelevant.

    But as a Sinhala Buddhist you must not ridicule or question the faith of several Million fellow Buddhists.

    People of other faiths who make these derogatory comments about Buddha and his Srilankan followers, are not only allowed to question their religious myths or icons or miracles, but they face punishment in the form of expulsion from the congregation.

  145. Comment 126.

    Mr D Rnetunga goes again,

    “I am not ridiculing my culture sweetie, I am simply pointing out that the buddhism that we have in Sri Lanka is not buddhism, but some other crap.”

    Which culture are you referring to Sir?

    Cultured people do not stoop to this level to ridicule 18 Million Srilankan Buddhists and over 100 Million followers of the same sect.

    I have never come across a Christian who blatantly ridicule, attack and denigrate the faith of 120 Million plus Buddhists in the open in this manner.

    We do not attack Christian faith simply because one ignoramus carry on like a pork chop.

    As Buddhists were are tolerant , and as Sinhalese we have a proper culture which stood us in good stead for 2600 years. .

    We do not play the person, when we can play the ball and play quite well.

  146. Lot of people may remember the Anuradhapura incident where the LTTE came in a coach then just open fired to the inocent civilions chilren women elderly priest etc we call them freedom fighters
    What do you expect for the Tamils in Apura.but with the help of the Sinhala Buddhists lot of people being safe.and most of them being located to different places of the Buddhist relatives houses.
    Cut the story short then most of the Tamils were now in the Army camp with there escort to travel to Jaffna.but one of the frustrated soldier just open fired to the people in the camp as they all ready to depart as everyone knows.in that shooting we lost three members of our family.
    The commander in charge of that camp on his own initiative he shot that soldier on his head.
    At that time JRJ thanked that commander s action for the punishment he given.
    But latter we found out that commander s action was inappropriate as in Sri Lanka there is no capital punishment but it was appricated by then president.
    Above all one of our cousin was wounded but only few of them seen she was being taken to the hospital by the brave soldiers and next two months or so our Sinhala neighbours looked after them.we thought we missed her as well .as there were curfew no comunication then when she got better she was being tranfered to Colombo then only we had the contact.we still grateful to them.you always find good and the bad in any walk of life.
    pls try to build our nation there are lot of people need tremandous help.some even cant afford for a bread but this is sad people are aruging about the teeth or even gone back to 2500 yrs and who had the king you or me
    There was lot of mistakes shall we all rectify and bring a good future for our future genaration.

  147. Why is that many Tamil brothers & sisters blame ” SINHALA GOVT” for this. The govt has enough influential tamil ministers and therefore it is a sinhala / tamil/ Muslim Govt. By branding the govt as Sinhala govt, the Sinhalese are insulted and marked as ruthless. Many of you know that majority of singhalese are non violent as much as the majority of tamils. Target the individuals and make them responsible for crimes rather than on ethnic basis – Thank You

  148. 153 Kugan.

    You are absolutely right .
    I endorse your comment.’ there is good and bad in every walk of life’ and also ‘ There was lots of mistakes shall WE all rectify and bring good future for our future generation’

    Your is the best comment on this sad and tragic story.

    God bless you.

    May the sadness of the Fathers and Mothers of those boys be softened with the passage of time.

  149. 136. Abhaya | what is really the point of this article today? That is exactly the question I raised at 120.

    Think hard………..DBSJ

  150. # 149 Dr Kathir,

    I’m serious about the issues being talked about in my capacity and would never spend my time on this otherwise. You may find my comments are not much academic or well versed sort compared to others, but I’m writing my views as a very ordinary person who still has a say in what I lived in and am aware of. Yes, you may be right about pragmatism as a concept which I don’t know a thing. I just used that word may be instead of ‘practical’ which I wanted to stress.

    Everyone may be like govt forces to act morally right in a civil war situation, but practically it never happens in that way. Specially one cannot expect when there is an equally armed counterpart (LTTE).

    If I was little disturbed the way that Army handled JVP matter, it was due to they killed soooo many without any sufficient retaliation or resistance or challenge. With the way that army reacted to few T56 and most of ‘Gal katas’ that even didn’t aim indiscriminately at every soldier, N/E regions were actually lucky to not have such massacres.

    Because of the communal sensitivity forces acted quite responsibly in N/E amidst of their opponents’ relatively very high brutality. Also in suppressing JVP there was a good part done by EPRLF militants who emerged as PRAA in south. Nobody in south said tamils are killing sinhalese, as it was a terrorism wiped out by govt forces and its para militaries.

    So, there were lot of differences between JVP and LTTE terrorisms. JVP was quite similar to maxist groups in north then such as TELO, PLOTE etc, but LTTE didn’t deserve any kind of civilised treatments from armed forces, I think.

    Also, JVP didn’t distance any race from their struggle like LTTE did as it was a class based one atleast in the way it surfaced. Tamil people’s favourable thinkings of LTTE’s war was not because of anything, but their mouths were shut from the very begining destroying anybody crossing VP’s path. After being under that iron fist for 20+ years they obviously got brainwashed, nothing else.

  151. Dear Bloggers, Dushy cup cake wants to ridicule SL and it’s people. But does not answer the question where some one pointed out with appropriate facts how UK government SAS killed civilians in 1972 and swept the inquiry under the carpet. Everything including our religion is wrong in SL. He says temples are a fraud, our practicing of Buddhism is the same and we are cave men fighting over some little shit pieces. In that case what is he? An enlightened human being, appointed by god to ridicule others because he is perfect!! Some where he says the churches in Rome are not fraud like Buddhist places of worship in SL!!! Being living abroad for quite a time, I know that is a lot of BS. There is nothing that happens in SL that does not happen in the west. The guy who robbed 13billion US$ from unsuspecting members of the public Mr Maldoff lived in US not in SL!! But he does not point the faults and the war crimes of the west because he would get kicked out. This is our rose petal shit pudding brave heart!! But he ridicules the poor SL people and their beliefs. Probably the dog’s tail has had bad experiences in SL and he is disappointed. A road is named after his uncle Lester James and he is offended but Not Lester James himself!! This guy is a classic nutter. His holier than thou attitude is really disgusting. His journalism is worthy of a better cause. He reminds me of K.T. Rajaratnum of the gutter press.

  152. 142. Ranjan, Toronto ,
    Thank you for your reply, Now You and Me agree we both have an un straightenable tail. So how can we go forward? Are we going to keep on killing and maiming each other for ever?. If we decide to part our ways you can keep your tail what ever way you want /mind set and we can keep ours. The best way out/forward is we should sit down amicably and decide how we are going to divide the cake as friends (friends do not impose their will on friends) Federation, Confederation, Total separation, or
    Unitary, First separate and re unite, 1/3,2/3,10% ,50%,50:50 ?etc. Re the chasing, superiority, footwear etc you had been misled by your side of politicians propaganda. If you need to know precisely who said what please read the Hansard kept by your parliament. By the way I am neither a politician nor a militant. I am a professional who received the brunt of the discriminatory actions and violence of the Sinhala supremacist Srilankan state apparatus several times from birth early 50s till left in mid 80s.

  153. 152. Kalu Albert  ,
    I am neighter Christian nor a Buddhist but a keen follower of news and current affairs of the world. And I have never heard or seen any news as in Srilanka by Budhist Monks in any other country by relious Priests /Gurus/Monks taking part in protest violence and destruction of other relious institutions and cultures in camera. I have seen politicians ,thugs and other civilians part taking this acts allover the world. You may say only minority of the Monks in Srilanka but what action has been taken against them by the Sanga? or the Buddish government? Wrong is wrong who ever commits if tolerated by your religious leaders and you what els want you to be called by Dushy.?

  154. Kalu Albert.

    How many Hindu Temples , Christian Churches and Mosques have been destroyed in the north and east of the country Why the Dharmista tolerant Buddhist countrie’s Government did not take any credible action to re build these institutions but only built Buddha statues and temples all over the north and east at government expences.

  155. As much as I am loath to get sidetracked from the topic at hand – mainly the killing of the 5 students, I am sorry DBSJ, but I feel I must respond to some of Dushy’s comments and the vast tarring of 18 odd million Sri Lankan Buddhists with the same brush.

    Dushy – how many buddhists have you met in your whole life? 5000? 10,000 say?

    That’s about the grand total of about 0.07% of the whole buddhist population in Sri Lanka. That’s not a lot of people now for you to make some of the grand assumptions you have made now is it ?

    Isn’t someone being rather silly?

    So what if buddhas tooth is not even his? It gave my elderly grandmother a great deal of peace of mind when she managed to make a visit before she passed away. To me that ‘animal’ tooth as you call it is priceless for that reason.

    I am sure other people have their own stories. They deserve some respect for what they believe

    The tooth or dalada maligawa is not actually encouraging devotees to go and commit mass murders or child sacrifice does it? So where is the harm?

    I agree with you to a certain extent that Sri Lankan buddhism has become rather ritualistic. But it is a hell of lot less ritualistic than I have seen in a fair few countries.

    And I do agree with you the buddha according to his own teachings would not have wanted people prostrating themselves infront of arguably his tooth. Or even a bo tree. Or a statue made in his likeness (according to the intepretation of some long dead greek sculptor no less). But you miss the point here.

    Human beings need an object to focus on. We are creatures of our senses. We need to believe in something that we can see, hear and touch.

    Thus the statues, the bo trees, the chanting with loudspeakers (annoying as it is) and even worshipping the ‘animal tooth’ for Buddhists. It is something that should complement the teachings – although there is probably a bit more emphasis on the rituals..

    No difference with the christians and their cross, catholics with their holy shrouds, bones of saints, or even the foreskin of christ (read about the Holy Prepuce sometime), Muslims with the facial hair (beard) from Mohammed, and his cloak, and hindus with their lingams etc. All religious relics or objects venerated at one time or the other for most of people who have lived on this earth

    So tell me Dushy, as a buddhist, or someone who was taught by my parents to respect the religous beliefs of others, will you hear me making an insensitive remark about a few billion people having worshipped a foreskin, facial hair or a penis shaped object?

    If that gives them some peace of mind or assists with their moral compass, or have some spirituality in their lives, who are we to judge and where is the harm?

    You should know better. You make some good points, but let yourself down, with crass remarks and a somewhat patronising attitude.. cupcake??

    Perhaps people might treat what you say with a bit more respect if you show them a bit more sensitivity and respect.

    No offence meant by the way – cupcake.

    My apologies again DBSJ. That will be the extent of my comments to Dushy.

  156. DBS,

    I’m quite disappointed that at a time of unity and peace that you have to remind us of the past. Why open a healed would?

    Annoys me when Tamil journalist remind us of the past by bringing up the 83 riots and similar incidents. Have you ever seen the state media writing about atrocities committed by the minorities? Are you trying to gain sympathy by constantly reminding us of the past? If you really want to remind us of the past, why not write about the screw ups of the Tamil politicians starting from GG Ponambalam, Chelvanayagam and Amirthalingam.

    Funny, every time I meet with Tamil friends or Tamil dinners they talk about Tamil grievances. When asked to explain more on the subject they all go quiet.

    Everything is great in paradise now. Tamils can freely walk anywhere and everywhere and do business as usual. They are the privileged minorities of the world. So stop whining and embrace Part II of the Mahinda Chinthanaya.

    Aruna Bolgoda

    I dont think the wound is healed particularly for the families of the victims………………DBSJ

  157. Dear Ranjan

    Facts are one thing. The way you say it another.

    I agree with you. Dushmantha’s intentions are not to educate people but rather to annoy them.

  158. Dear Kalu Albert

    If you don’t believe it because few of your mates said so is irrelevant.

    Once again, NO ONE I know who has actually seen the Tooth Relic claims that it is a tooth of a human being. All of my “mates” are pious Buddhists (including scholars) and do not have Dushy’s poor communications skills. They did not ridicule Buddhism or the Perahera. They simply told me that what they saw was not a human tooth.

    One of them theorized that the visible tooth- large and appearing to be fang-like- is a container for the real tooth which would be much smaller. The majority though felt that the animal tooth was introduced to replace the original- as opposed to a substitute human tooth- because of the common superstition at that time (16th century) that the Buddha had stood 30 ft. tall!

    “But as a Sinhala Buddhist you must not ridicule or question the faith of several Million fellow Buddhists.”

    Where did I ridicule anyone’s faith? I am simply sharing what I’ve been told. If you know anyone who has seen the Tooth Relic and believes it is a human’s please let me know.

    In Buddhism the element of faith applies to the Triple Gem and the Four Noble Truths. We believe that Siddhartha Gautama had found the end of suffering. We believe that the Dhamma that he taught, including the Four Noble Truths and Noble Eightfold Path, shows the path to the end of suffering. We believe that the Sangha had preserved this Dhamma over the millennia (more or less).

    Beyond the Triple Gem, there is no “faith” as sanctioned by the Buddha’s teachings. We should be free to question any other aspect of reality (you can question whether Siddhartha really became Buddha or whether the Sangha had properly transmitted the Dhamma, but then you would not be Buddhist). The false nature of the Tooth Relic should not affect anyone’s faith in the Triple Gem.

    People of other faiths who make these derogatory comments about Buddha and his Srilankan followers, are not only allowed to question their religious myths or icons or miracles, but they face punishment in the form of expulsion from the congregation.

    Doesn’t this openmindedness make Buddhism superior to these other faiths then?

  159. Dear #146 Chintaka

    Many people condemned or felt sorry about the killing of 5 youth, but why Nurudal specifically chose Dushy to be a sinhalese model of his choice?

    Because Dushy made some other comments, which I applaud, in addition to his Sinhala-bashing that have earned him few friends. Those comments caught my eye and probably caught Nurudal’s, but apparently you are more interested in reading anti-Sinhala comments.

    Please note that Nurudal did not respond to #15 but rather #85 which had the below:

    “Tamils are not terrorists or South Indians who invaded, but our own peoples. The same way that Sinhalese in the Western coast have acquired English language, culture, dress and christianity because of their association with European colonial powers since 1505, people in the North have acquired Tamil language, culture, dress and religion as a result of their long association with South Indian colonialism from 992AD.

    “To me the death of a Tamil child is the same as the death of a Sinhalese child, especially those of us who have children the same age as these children of Trincomalee who have been killed.

    “It breaks my heart to see parents having to bury their children and I will protest and screw the Lions and the Tigers and all their bankrupt nationalist agendas.

    “You cannot compare killing at Fort railway station with killing of Tamil civilians in Trinco, because if you do, then you are only acknowledging that the Sri Lankan state is behaving like terrorists???”

    Kindly point which of the above comments are anti-Sinhala or anti-Buddhist.

  160. My Dear Kalu,

    “As Buddhists were are tolerant , and as Sinhalese we have a proper culture which stood us in good stead for 2600 years. .”

    It is accepted by academic historians that the Sinhalese identity only emerged after 1200AD.

    So obviously old chap, you are exposing your ignorance and that you cannot count.

    If you check your DNA sweetie, you may discover that your origins were rooted in the fancies of a European mercenary soldier who ravaged our land.

    So all these 2600 year Sinhalese business is ignorant crap.

  161. THANK YOU DBSJ for re-publishing this article, which helps to refresh the fading memories of many people about these cold blooded killings and remind the authorities in power about pending justice.
    Also this article serves another purpose, honouring Lasantha and those five tamil youths, who had full of dreams and full life ahead of them. Those killings and killers who are at large for several years remind us of one thing that people in power in Srilanaka will take any extreme measure including killing of their opponents to guarantee their survival.
    By responding to this article, I hope I also answered few bloggers on this site.
    I wish courage to everyone who affected by these crimes against humanity to stand against injustice.

    Dushy! it is great to have pople like you on this blog.

  162. #163 Aruna Bolgoda!
    For your comments, DBSJ respond it correctly, “I don’t think the wound is healed particularly for the families of the victims” The families are not alone of five trinco tamil youths, thousands of tamils and sinhalese who affected by the discriminative policies of successive sinhala governments since the so-called independence and continue to till this day as dawn of 2011 with the killings of tamils in Jaffna and dusk of 2010 with Sinhala only “National Anthem”.

    #163 Aruna Bolgoda!
    You call it as “time of unity and peace” what an ignorant you are.   Journalists are vibrant part of democracy! If you believe in democracy, you expect such articles every time politicians fail in their duties.

    #163 Aruna Bolgoda!
    You said “Remind us of the past by bringing up the 83 riots and similar incidents. Have you ever seen the state media writing about atrocities committed by the minorities?”Have you affected by any of those pogroms? 1958, 1963, 1977, 1983, …………………I am a victim of all 1958, 1977 and 1983 pogroms. My daughter couldn’t visit her great-grandfather suffering from illness, due to the ongoing war that time by Srilankan Military. Only few people have such a chance to see their great-grand father.  Do you think I can simply forget until I receive justice for me and everyone affected by those crimes against humanity? State media played major role in spreading violence against tamils in 1977 and 1983. The media spread the romour that sinhala students were attacked by tamil in Jaffna, when not a single Sinhala student was attacked at Jaffna University.

    #163 Aruna Bolgoda!
    You said “Are you trying to gain sympathy by constantly reminding us of the past? If you really want to remind us of the past, why not write about the screw ups of the Tamil politicians starting from GG Ponambalam, Chelvanayagam and Amirthalingam.”Tamils are not expecting sympathy, they want justice, until then they won’t rest. You expect many more such articles to come to theater near you and it may even become a threat to your survival in that island. Of course, tamil politicians are to blame, they were just reacting to the injustice brought to the tamils by sinhala politicians.

    #163 Aruna Bolgoda!
    You said “Funny, every time I meet with Tamil friends or Tamil dinners they talk about Tamil grievances. When asked to explain more on the subject they all go quiet. I think you had enough explanation from me for digest, don’t bother your ignorant tamil friends who are same as you.

    #163 Aruna Bolgoda!
    You said “Everything is great in paradise now. Tamils can freely walk anywhere and everywhere and do business as usual. They are the privileged minorities of the world. So stop whining and embrace Part II of the Mahinda Chinthanaya.”You have to read a lot to understand what is going around you. Don’t be such ignorant, you deserve “The great ignorant of the year” award. OR you are receiving perks and privilege by your masters MR & Bros think you like that to write such comment.    “Mahinda Chinthanaya” Part I & II will bring destruction, not any benefit to all, expect to MR & Bros and people around them.   

    Read below:
    Why are we not outraged about child rape in Sri Lanka?By Tisaranee GunasekaraReality after the defeat of Tigers:
    http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/10/why_are_we_not_outraged_about.html 

    Conflict leaves 89,000 widows Thursday, 30 September 2010 01:52 More than 800 calls a day on child abuse hotlineBy Melanie Bamunusinghe

    http://www.dailymirror.lk/print/index.php/news/front-page-news/22915.html 

    Why the world must stop Sri Lanka’s declineIncreasing the presidential term hastens a dictatorship
    By Sonali Samarasinghe
    http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/09/why_the_world_must_stop_sri_la.html

    Mahinda Rajapaksa’s new powers are unnecessary and dangerous
    http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/09/mahinda_rajapaksas_new_powers.html
    From The EconomistSept 10, 2010

  163. Comment 165 Mr Wijepala,

    We admire your elevated knowledge of Buddhism.

    In the real world of Srilankan Buddhists people like you would be few and far between.

    The Buddhism they practice may be different to yours..

    However what matters to this vast majority is the peaceful environment that they have got at present, and to go about their lives in a friendly, peaceful manner to try and achieve some economic success.

    Their religious beliefs and rituals are a matter for themselves.

    You yourself admits that Buddhism is freedom. So it they believe in a Tooth relic it is their business.

    Still the vast majority of these Sinhala Buddhists abhor killing. They are reluctant to kill even serpents and insects.

    In light ofthis,is it fair to blame 18 Million of them for the acts of Terror and counter Terror measures.?

    Even worse is to openly state that the religion of this 18 Million people is “crap”. when there are another 100 Million world wide who also follow the this version of Buddhism.

    For you to ridicule or belittle them for for believing in the Tooth Relic is not good Buddhist practice..

    The whole Buddhist nation believe it is the Relic of Lord Buddha.as much as the whole Christian Nation world wide believe Jesus Christ arose from death for the salvation of his followers.

    There are evil forces that are desperately trying to undermine the development of the country and avoid this great majority enjoying any benefits of the new found freedom and tranquility.

    We have expressed our deep sorrow at the loss of these 5 young lives.

    We have equally expressed our sorrow at the loss of hundreds of innocent , children and mothers who were hacked to death and others who were blasted to pieces with suicide bombs.

    Instead of repenting and going forward to ensure that these terrible incidents do not occur in the future, what we see here is a serial Sinhala Buddhist hater , insulting the Sinhala Buddhists with allegations of incest, worshiping animal teeth, questioning our origin and even insulting Lord Buddha who created our Sinhala Buddhist nation.

    His utterances are nothing but blasphemy in his own religion.

    Then again we as Buddhists are taught and trained to follow the path of good Buddhist practices which include kindness and forgiveness to even our enemies..

    So as a fellow Buddhist I have no qualms about you defending this person.

  164. Comment 167,

    Do Historians you quote accept that the ruins of our Kingdoms date backe to atleast 200BC?

    Probably not ?

    Regardless even if it is 8 plus centuries which is a long time is not bad..

    And to hold Srilanka together and rule it preserving its identity, territorial integrity and religion despite many invasions from our friends in the neighbour hood as well you mates in the west is a great acheivement.

    To top it all , the reestablishment of total control over every inch of the country and bringing all under one rule and one economy by the elected democratic government of the peoples of Srilankan is the crowning glory of its long history.

    I agree my weakest subject at College was Maths.

    After the lesson in Maths where I learned 1 to 2 is 100 % & 100 to 102 is only 2 % , I wondered whether my Maths inadequacy is DNA related. because of your initial assertion that we are all inbred,.

    But if I am to take you second hypothesis I am from the same gene pool like you.

    What a surprise.? I will drink to that tonight.

  165. # Wijayapala

    “Please note that Nurudal did not respond to #15 but rather #85 which had the below”

    Funny. You are claiming something that the original writer – Nurudal never had in his comment. I wonder what you’re trying to prove.

    What you quoted from Dushy’s comments were alright, but it forms just a fraction of his opinion. What are you trying to do here? What’s your motive and Why? 🙂

  166. #166 Wijayapala, & Dushy Ranetunge

    Thank you both. What a great response to ultra sinhala and tamil nationalists.

    You may be a good sinhalese or buddhist and above all I know for sure you both are great human beings, like other sinhalese we know, Lasantha, Wickramabahu, Dr. Brian, Sonali, ………. the list goes on and hope one day the efforts of all these great human beings will help to bring dignity, peace and justice to tamils and in general for every voiceless person living in that island.

  167. My Dear Hunchback,

    Is it not the great master himself who taught us a great lesson in not accepting what is told to us, including his own teachings, and did he not encourage us to question everything and accept only what we thought was right????

    What you are articulation is what I interpret as “going with the herd”

    I am very proud of my son. He is about the same age as those kids who were killed in Trinco, and I know the pains and the joys of parenthood.

    He obtained 9 A(stars) for all his GCSE subjects last year at Winchester College. No father could have asked for more.

    As he is in Boarding school, we see him one weekend every other month. Recently he has been rather enjoying himself with some girls and boys in Winchester and he confessed in a long e-mail that he had consumed some Vodka with his friends and he was feeing guilty.

    He said that he appreciated my advice about studies, but that he found it difficult and distracted by his friends having a good time.

    I will share with you what I told him, as his argument was the same as yours.

    I told him that if he goes with the herd, that he will be one with the herd. I told him that in life the herd usually heads in the direction of the slaughter house or the waiting crocodiles.

    I told him that in life, he should always climb to the highest mountain, study the terrain and cut his own path.

    Whether your mother or granny takes comfort in worshipping an animal tooth because society at large does so, is going with the herd. As I said, those who go with the herd, will be one with the herd.

  168. Instead of cursing VP and the clan for the destruction done to the tamil society in vein, most tamil bloggers here try denying the fact that LTTE’s sturggle ended up pretty useless. Who bainwashed tamil youth and let them killed at the battlefront or suicidal targets for a war couldn’t be won? Who assured you guys a fake Eelam and took everything you had? None of SL state, Militory or Sinhalese.

    Without realising the bitter truth (that might make them feel really upset with the actual cost of war in vain) they still try making someone else guilty of something that didn’t happen in isolation. If you see anything happened it is the cost of LTTE asked war and do I have to remind you guys of how brutally they dealt with it? Did you guys ever make any objection to the way that LTTE conducted the war then? Did they ever follow any convention in doing it? Most of you silently approved it, but now are asking for inquiries at the survivors.

    If LTTE survived this war who would be asking justice for dead people. Utter crap. Please realise LTTE carried the tamil population into grave by getting to fight for a couse of their leadership and the curse for doing that should be fallen on the gaves of LTTE leaders, not on anyone else.

    It may be hard to accept that LTTE did such a harm for you whom you thought ‘Boys taking the fight for justice who will never let you down’. But they really failed because of their own murderuos behavior, so no point of finger pointing at SL state from whom you cannot expect cuddling terrorists.

  169. 85. Dushy Ranetunge

    “Tamils are not terrorists or South Indians who invaded, but our own peoples. The same way that Sinhalese in the Western coast have acquired English language, culture, dress and christianity because of their association with European colonial powers since 1505, people in the North have acquired Tamil language, culture, dress and religion as a result of their long association with South Indian colonialism from 992AD.

    “To me the death of a Tamil child is the same as the death of a Sinhalese child, especially those of us who have children the same age as these children of Trincomalee who have been killed.

    “It breaks my heart to see parents having to bury their children and I will protest and screw the Lions and the Tigers and all their bankrupt nationalist agendas.

    “You cannot compare killing at Fort railway station with killing of Tamil civilians in Trinco, because if you do, then you are only acknowledging that the Sri Lankan state is behaving like terrorists???”

    ———————————————-

    DUSHY, I AM AN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING LIKE YOU. I FIND THAT OUR HEART RESONATES IN UNISON HERE.

    I DON’T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AND WHO YOU ARE. HATS OFF TO YOU.

    IF THERE IS ANY GOD LET HIM BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

    MAY YOUR TRIBE GROW AND ALL THOSE WHOSE HEART RESONATES WITH YOU.

  170. 110. Navin, 111. Chinthaka AND OTHERS.

    JVP was crushed with iron hand, no doubt. In that case it was done by the Sinhalese army on the sinhalese civilians.

    Remember that the Sri Lankan army is only the Sinhalese army.

    What is the representation of the Tamils in your armed or civil forces.

    You also bombed the civilian areas indiscrimately and killed the civilians.

    You had denied them their basic human rights like electricity and have used food and other essential commodities as weapons of war.

    You had entered into accords with them and broke the accords.

    When they were defeated you gloated over that and there were many even now using jingoistic and abusive languages against them.

    There are allegations that you have used phosphorus powder against them.

    Also you were talking about the Aranthalawa and Anuradhapura.

    While I condemn that I also question the monks for their involvement in the anti bc pact demonstrations.

    When you enter in the politics be it in the garb of even a monk you have to expect some reactions.

    You people had done all these things like aerial bombardment of the Tamil civil areas with a vengeance and without any regret.

    You did all these things with gleeful heart.

    You never did any of these things with a gleeful heart over the jvp, probably they were your own people.

    If you had used aerial power against the sinhala civilian places and called it is your way of dealing with the rebels whoever they may be one could consider it.

    one could also applaud your 2600 years of civilization for that.

    May be your 2600 years old civilization makes you do those kind of things.

  171. My Dear Kalu,

    I wish to clarify your statement

    “To top it all , the reestablishment of total control over every inch of the country and bringing all under one rule and one economy by the elected democratic government of the peoples of Srilankan is the crowning glory of its long history.”

    I think you should view history by taking a step back.

    Forgive me for cutting and pasting from an article I wrote in April 2009

    http://www.island.lk/2009/04/12/features14.html

    “Most Sinhala nationalists like to think that the island was united for most of history under a central Sinhalese authority. It was not.

    Before the present day Mahinda militarily united Sri Lanka in 2009, the British King George III of the House of Hanover militarily united it in 1815. That unity lasted for about 150 years before starting to come apart.

    Before that Parakramabahu I of Polonnaruva united Sri Lanka around 1160 AD. The great Parakramabahu’s unity did not last even 100 years.

    From 1215 to 1619 there was a kingdom in Jaffna, longer than the life of the United States of America. It was briefly annexed by Bhuvanekabahu VI, also known as Sapumal Kumaraya, in 1450 but lost control of it by 1467.

    Rev. Phillipus Baldeaus who lived and preached in the Kingdom of Jaffnapattnum has written extensively about it and his publication in 1672 has a map of the Kingdom.

    It is quite extraordinary that what is happening today is a mere repeating of history which has been played out so many times on this island.

    Unfortunately, no one has over the years has come up with a winning formula to politically consolidate the unity achieved militarily.”

  172. #29 chinthaka
    It is really an unfortunate incident and there’s a big cruelty in the part of armed forces. At the same time those youth were in the wrong place at the wrong time, i feel.
    ———————————–
    I doubt any other 3 rd party led those cattle to the slaughter field. All are Hindus
    But all are members of YMCA! Not the members of YMHA! I happened to read this odd data from their obituary notices.
    A skeptic

  173. Dushy

    You have moved me to break my promise not to comment any further to you.

    No, not because of general pomposity, and not even because of your failure to address or counter any of my points, and yes, not even for your going on a tangent talking about your son (dont get me wrong – good luck to the lad and well done – but I don’t see the relevancy of his school life here and I really do not even the remotest bit of interest in the doings of snotty vodka drinking teenagers – sorry), or even your feeble accusation of making a incorrect judgement (based on 1 single comment on a blog) and accusing me of following the herd, just because I do not 100% agree with what you say.

    However, I feel I have to defend my poor grandmother, who you accuse of ‘following the herd’.

    Did you know my grandmother? Do you know my mother? Have you not just proven again that you are just making grand assumptions and generalisations without even knowing the people or understanding or even knowing the facts?

    My grandmother was a lovely woman who treated all equally and with respect and never seeked to provoke people just to make herself feel superior.

    She was never pompus or crowed about the achievements of her children or grandchildren which were many, after she was widowed at an early age.

    She was very comfortable in her own skin and who she was and where she was from. She would comfortably wear a saree in a foreign country and be her graceful self, and she would use her hand to eat from a roadsite cafe to a foreign hotel – and the world did not come to and Dusy. it really didn’t.

    She was always willing to listen to other peoples argument and never looked to patronise others.

    She put her own arguments across with grace, wit, and not challenge others with crassness, but was always to the point.

    She was never a rather popmpous windbag full of hot air, and with a chip on each shoulder and lacked in substance or style.

    She was a lovely woman. And I miss her.

    It’s a shame you did not meet – there is so, so, so much you could have learnt from her.

    But it’s too late now. She has passed on. You Dushy are who you are and always will be and good luck to you with that.

    And that, really is the end of my comments to you, as I feel rather bored now.

    Best of luck.

    Apologies for breaking my promise DBSJ. I had to defend my grandmother and mothers honour here. I hope you understand.

  174. Dear #172 Chinthaka

    What are you trying to do here? What’s your motive and Why?

    To defend a Tamil who admitted that Tamils had done wrong.

    What is your motive and Why?

  175. Yes, if somebody did wrong, they may be penalized by the nature or any other. But why don’t you publish the human rights violated by LTTE. There are much examples about that also. Innocent much SRILANKANS were killed by them without nothing wrong. They have not been brought to justice yet. Publish those things also. then you are doing rights things. We both may have done much wrong thing to separate each other.
    I think Now the people in Sri Lanka are trying to build their life without having a war.
    Please do not disturb them to build their fallen life. If you can, help them to enhance their life. Sri Lankans need only peaceful country without having trouble again.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    All those have been published by me and so many people.The terrorism of the LTTE has been universally acknowledged.Hence the International ban on the LTTE.

    Also the Sri Lankan govt has gone to the fullest extent in publicising the LTTE atrocities.

    But in this and many other instances where innocent Tamil civilians have been killed by agents of the state there is a woeful state of denial by the state. Moreover in this case as well as many others there state propaganda is exerted to deny and distort the truth.

    There is compensation for the victims of the LTTE but not for the victims of state terror.Basically this type of violence is not even acknowledged and very often the victims are blamed.

    In this case not only was justice denied to the families of victims but the families were subjected to terror tactics and intimidation and harassment to prevent and suppress their search and demand for justice. Some families were forced to relocate

    Terror is terror whether by the LTTE or the state but when the state uses its power to not only inflict terror but also thwart the course of justice, deny the crime and harass the families of victims then that is terrible and deserves the highest condemnation

    That is the crucial difference.

  176. Dear Mr. Jeyaraj
    Yes, if somebody did wrong, they may be penalized by the nature or any other. But why don’t you publish the human rights violated by LTTE. There are much examples about that also. Innocent much SRILANKANS were killed by them without nothing wrong. They have not been brought to justice yet. Publish those things also. then you are doing rights things. We both may have done much wrong thing to separate each other.
    I think Now the people in Sri Lanka are trying to build their life without having a war.
    Please do not disturb them to build their fallen life. If you can, help them to enhance their life. Sri Lankans need only peaceful country without having trouble again.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    You cant build a “new” life on injustice, deception and lies.A trouble free,peaceful country should be built on principles of justice,truth and equality

  177. I published my first article and wanted to know how many people in Sri Lanka can think out of the box, Well As dushy tries to explain. But I am running out of patience for Idiot like Kalu Albert and Chintaka

    I am a sinhala Buddhist and try to follow Buddha’s path to the max possible extent and I love Sri Lanka as my first country. But I feel sad about the moronic state of affairs prevail in the country.

    But as Dushy says Majority of Sri Lankan are nothing but uninteligent barbarian lot.

    There are problems in the West, but over here we have something called Freedom of speech, Nobody is going to abduct me and dissappear me for criticising anything.

    Compared to Sri Lankan democracy we enjoy quite lot of freedom and I enjoy every bit of it and I am greatfull for the leaders in Briton who have upheld these values for centuries. My sicere hope is that oneday every Sri Lankan will be able to enjoy this basic human rights to the max.

    IDIOTS,
    COME OUT FROM THE WELL,
    DO NOT DEFEND SRI LANKA FOR ALL IT’S ILLS
    IT IS FULL OF CRAP LIKE YOU.
    YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOUR SELVES AND SEE THE WORLD.

    UNDERSTAND HUMAN RIGHTS AND RESPECT THEM
    TOLERATE DISSENT.

    IN SRI LANKA NO COURTS FOR suspected CRIMINALS, THEY GET WHACKED BY THE POLICE, WHAT KIND OF JUSTICE IS THAT? WHERE IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY? THESE ARE PRABHAKARAN TACTICS. SO YOU DEFEND SRI LANKA.

    IN SRI LANKA YOU GET WHACKED FOR WRITNG DIFFERENT POLITICAL OPINIONS.

    IN SRI LANKA, YOU GET JAILED FOR HAVING SEX.

    IN SRI LANKA, YOU GET JAILED FOR LOVING SOMEBODY. (COUPLES ARE ARRESTED)

    IN SRI LANKA, YOU MAY ENDED UP IN JAIL IF YOU WARE A MINI SKIRT.

    IN SRI LANKA, YOU GET TIED UP TO TREES BY THE GOVERNMENT FOR NOT ATTENDING MEETINGS.

    IN SRI LANKA, JUSTICE IS APPLIED SELECTIVELY, IF YOU ARE WITH THE GOVT ONE LAW, IF YOU ARE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT, ANOTHER LAW. WHAT DID YOU DO TO THE SARATH FONSEKA? ( OF COURSE HE IS ANOTHER IDIOT, BUT SURELY HE DID NOT DESERVE JAIL FOR BEING AN IDIOT )
    ARE YOU PROUD OF THAT.

    IN SRI LANKA YOU GET JAILED FOR DOING POLITICS.

    IN SRI LANKA YOU GET PROSECUTED WHEN YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION, THE SAME CRIMINAL IS EMBRACED WHEN HE JOINS THE GOVERNMENT.

    IN SRI LANKA, YOU ELECT IdIOTS AS YOUR LEADERS.

    IN SRI LANKA, POLICE OFFICER’S WIFE CAN KIDNAP/ASSAULT UNIVERSSITY STUDENT BUT GO WITHOUT FACING THE LAW.

    IN SRI LANKA, EDUCATION MINISTER TELLS THAT HE SIMPLY UNDRESSED THE UNDERGRADUATES AND ASSAULTED THEM, HE IS APPRECIATED.

    DUMB IDIOTS, THE BEST THING HAPPENED TO SRI LANKA IS BUDDHISM.
    UNDERSTAND HOW LIBERAL AND FREE THE RELIGION IS. FOLLOW BUDDHA’S PRINCIPLES TO THE HEART, NOT THE TOOTH.

    DO NOT KILL THE MESSENGERS, FACE THE CRITICISIM. LET US TRY TO SORT OUT THIS COUNTRY. YOU THINK I AM WRITING ALL THIS THAT MY BACK IS ITCHING?
    NO, TO SAVE THIS, NATION FROM IDOTS LIKE KALU ALBERT AND THE LOT IN THE PARLIaMENT. THIS COUNTRY DESRVES BETTER AND ONLY WAY TO ACHIEVE THAT IS BY WIDENING THE HORIZONS OF THESE IDIOTS.

  178. —-Comment 185 —This is what Mr Sirinath Karunaratna says

    “”But as Dushy says Majority of Sri Lankan are nothing but uninteligent barbarian lot”

    —-“IDIOTS,”COME OUT FROM THE WELL,

    DO NOT DEFEND SRI LANKA FOR ALL IT’S ILLS
    IT IS FULL OF CRAP LIKE YOU.

    YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOUR SELVES AND SEE THE WORLD.”

    “IN SRI LANKA, YOU GET JAILED FOR HAVING SEX”—-

    This aspiring POM ,( A Citizen of Great Britain) from my country then says

    “,I love Srilanka and I am a Buddhist who follows the path of Buddha.”——

    I am not sure even Mr Dushy Ranetunga would want to associate with you as a fellow British mate, let alone defend his ideas and postings.

    Although he goes over the top at times Mr Ranatunga has attributes of a person who can match the Britons in Social , Cultural and Linguistic aspects,

    .

  179. Kalu Albert,

    Your understanding of PoM is as misplaced as many other you try to preach on. It is far far from the Citizen of Britain you seem to have convinced yourself it is. Dushy will know more about this. Pls contact sometone who knows above average English and learn what this is. Prisoners of Her/His Majesty was the derogotary term used to describe some of the British settlers, most of whom were convicts, who went to inhabit the massive and harsh Australian continent. In fairness to the labour of these men they turne this country into a producer of wheat, meat and the mining industry – among many other.

    This came into the fore when some of our journalists traced virtually the Family Tree of each and every one of the Aussie cricketers in that controversy during the time of Arjuna Ranatunga when he defended Murali. There are a few other theories as well along these lines.

    Ironically, there is much speculation that most of the Chinese workers (estimated around 40,000) in the Hambantota and other large Chinese Projects are themselves convicts from that country. Some of them have already come into conflict with our law – including killings.

    ISS

  180. My Dear Hunchback,

    I am sure your grandmother was a lovely women. So was mine.

    But you state that like the “charge of the light brigade”, your dear wise simple non pompous, non windbag grandmother went like all the other dear grandmothers and made her maligawa visit for peace of mind, for it was “theirs not to reason why”.

    Mine was the same, but i do think grandmothers pass a lot of wind, and I am sure you are trying to make out that your grandmother had no wind because you want to show her in a good light. Very sweet of you. I am sure she will blow you a great big kiss from where ever she is, bless her soul.

    But, they were all following the herd.

    Every year many more grandmothers follow the herd and climb Sri Pada thinking it to be the footprint of the Buddha, when it is clearly not, but a clever business plan like “After Eight Mints” for the temple to make some money.

    I am sorry sweetie, if i stepped on your tits and upset you about your sweet grandmother, but I was simply trying to illustrate that this exploitation of the masses and their herd behaviour leads to the cultivation of prejudices, which as we know are based on ignorance, ending with worshipping animal tooth.

    Like the charge of the light brigade, the herd which does not question why, end up in slaughter.

    It is happening right now, did you not see that herd run out of London leaving their bags behind?

    They did not question why
    “Charge for the guns!” Mahinda said:
    Into the valley of Oxford
    Rode the one hundred.

  181. # 182 Wijayapala

    “To defend a Tamil who admitted that Tamils had done wrong”

    The statement was incomplete as I already told you. Nurudal expected everyone of us to be like Dushy R to be eligible for his apology, which is not a fair expectation.

    About Nurudal’s perception towards Dushy R you hv said something that the original writer – Nurudal himself never mentioned. That’s why I asked you what your motive is to lie on behalf of another.

    My motive is clear everywhere here. Tamils need to accept that the LTTE caused the biggest destruction to them and SL state is now trying to rebuild their lives with the help of the tax money of people that they did ev’thing against for a while. It’s not only sinhalese, but tamils too need to regret their own wrong doings and should stop finger pointing that they never did with their so-called ‘boys’ in much worse times. Is it too much to ask?

  182. Dushy – understanding subtlety was never your strongest point it seems.

    My lovely grandmother, was not everything that you are- a pompous, self righteous buffoon, who seeks to provoke others, to mask his own insecurities and in the process feel better about himself.

    Hmm, now why would Dushmanthe Srikanthe Ranetunge and Nilmarnie Panabokke, name their UK residing (as you stated) name their children ‘Julian’ and ‘Annalise’ ?

    You can name your kids Mutt and Jeff for all I care. However, the point is – was this to

    1. to fit in? i.e to follow the rest of the british herd? Or did you always like these names my little Tushy..

    Are you not following there herd, when you don’t defecate on the sidewalk? Or when you wear clothes when you go out? Or you live in a house and not in a tree, or when you drive on the left side of the road, or follow the law? Or do you not do these things?

    We all follow the herd as human beings Dushy. You in your fake pride and misplaced arrogance just refuse to see that.

    It is all down to your sense of inferiority –

    British Herd Good. Sri Lanka Herd – Bad. Let me teach Sri Lankan herd my new tricks that I learnt from my Winchester going son, who got 9 A* passes no less and even drank vodka with his chums – shock horror… 🙂

    You seem to be someone who is very uncomfortable in his skin. Instead of addressing the root causes, you just mask the symptoms by looking for new fights.. a text book, classical misanthrope.

    If following the herd mean to treat others beliefs with respect, or to have some personal spirituality or practices which cause no harm to others – well point me the way Dushy –

    I will happily follow the herd and be part of it. I would just rather not join the ‘Dushy’s insecurity driven bandwagon’. Thanks, but no thanks.

    You are welcome to carry on with your self righteous preaching and chest beating. But like I said – you just bore me to tears.

    Apologies if any offence was taken for bringing your family into this. None was intended.

    As to source of the info – it came from your self penned, rather embarassing wikipedia entry. So put your mind at ease. I do not know you or wish to know you in a personal capacity.

    As for my grandmothers farts you referred to – they smelled better than your foul mouth.

    I would be much obliged if you stopped referring to her in a derogatory manner – thank you.

    Sorry DBSJ. I forgot a golden lesson my grandmother taught me – never pick a fight with a fool, because he has nothing to lose.

    Oh well, you live and you learn.

  183. # 185 srinath gunaratne

    It clearly shows who cannot stand the criticism and who is the REAL idiot. Dude, you got to understand Sri Lanka is nowhere near to compare with the luxioury you’re talking about.

    In the developed world you’re living in, they have all the systems in place, so anybody can enjoy all sorts of freedom, but they’re not dare to cross the limits. Before those countries get developed they had people respecting the country and the discipline. Those who try fishing in the troubled waters, or those who play their cheap tactics to topple govts, and thereby further worsen the situations cannot survive in that system like you do in SL. Journalism is there to correct the govts constructively, not to conspire with enemies like you do. That’s why those countries can afford to hv all kinds of freedom as long as vested parties or got carried away idiots don’t play fool around like you do.

    Compare apple with apple idiot, Not with orange.

  184. Not only trinco 5 students case but Tamil people waiting from 1956 gal-oya riots incidents for justice but no justice in Singala sri lanka

  185. not only innocent sri lankan Tamils as well as the innocent sri lankan Sinhalese were killed by the LTTE before this tricomalle tragedy. At that time there were no foreign powerful country to support us. They all helped to LTTE.
    Sri Lankan government is the only one who published this things. Human Rights organizations have never helped Sri Lanka Government so far. What is the reason for that?
    They do not like the country in peaceful condition. Actually the most of developed countries like America, Britain, France, Norway, Italy, Switzerland, etc.

  186. Oups… DBSJ # 189 is mine and don’t know how it got posted as Anonymous. May be I forgot to put my name there.

    If you can please change. Thanks.

  187. My Dear Hunchback,

    You are exposing your ignorance old chap.

    Annaliza is not a British name. It was a name suggested by one of our Swedish employees who was very close to our family.

    So are you suggesting that we were trying to fit into Sweden???

    You seem to have difficulty in understanding, perhaps too engrossed in your own fiction.

    You say “British Herd Good. Sri Lanka Herd – Bad”

    Not at all sweetie, it is the Sri Lankan talabanism that is bad, so is British fascism.

    Over there, the fascists are marginalised. Over here they are running the government.

    Thats why libraries are burnt down, civilians burnt in the streets, Tamils bussed out of Colombo, Tamil national anthem scrapped etc and the herd does not protest, but follow until terrorists are blowing them up as a direct consequence.

    You and your granny may following the herd sweetie, letting out lots of hot air on the way, but I will continue to advocate that Sri Lankans should continue to question old practices, beliefs and prejudices that has landed our country at the doors of a war crimes tribunal and your leader of the pack running out of London leaving bags behind.

  188. ——-Comment 188— Mr Dushmantha Ranrtunge.

    When there is a formidable Coalition of The Willing of the Tamil Diaspora, the Mighty English West, Bunkee Moon ,the anti Silankan Front and now the latest, anti Srilankan Sinhala Buddhist Movement to roll Rajapksa, why would Dushmantha wants to drag our little old grannies to the fray.?

    Whether they followed the flock and ended up in Kandy, worshiping the Tooth Relic or landed in the South of France at the Holy Lourdes, praying at the Rock cave,where Virgin Mary appeared, they must be all having a giggle about the good old days relaxing in total liberation and freedom in Nirvana.

    I think we should respect their beautiful and serene souls and leave them alone.

    We should keep the ball in play only among ourselves.

    I am sure we are intelligent and smart enough to discuss the issues in a relevant, practical and ethical manner, without delivering low t blows to innocent bystanders.

    Our main focus must be what is at stake for the 22 Million people who live in Srilanka.

    And that is Economic Developmemt, Jobs, Security, Freedom from Terrorism, Peace, Freedom to live in any part of the Land, buy Properties in any Location, Descent Shelter for the Kids, safe and secure Travel etc,etc,

    I am pleased most of these long over due needs are coming in to fruition.

    The Others , Srilankan or otherwise who do not hold citizenship of Srilanka must not get excited too much because there is nothing tangible there for them except may be the big egos and bitter tastes.

  189. My Dear Hunchback,
    You are exposing your ignorance old chap.
    Annaliza is not a British name. It was a name suggested by one of our Swedish employees who was very close to our family.
    So are you suggesting that we were trying to fit into Sweden???
    You seem to have difficulty in understanding, perhaps too engrossed in your own fiction.
    You say “British Herd Good. Sri Lanka Herd – Bad”
    Not at all sweetie, it is the Sri Lankan talabanism that is bad, so is British fascism.
    Over there, the fascists are marginalised. Over here they are running the government.
    Thats why libraries are burnt down, civilians burnt in the streets, Tamils bussed out of Colombo, Tamil national anthem scrapped etc and the herd does not protest, but follow until terrorists are blowing them up as a direct consequence.
    You and your granny may following the herd sweetie, letting out lots of hot air on the way, but I will continue to advocate that Sri Lankans should continue to question old practices, beliefs and prejudices that has landed our country at the doors of a war crimes tribunal and your leader of the pack running out of London leaving bags behind.
    you seem somewhat agitated old boy, why not join the herd, chew some beetle and spit on the street???
    It might calm you down and make you one with the herd.

  190. D B S Jeyaraj states five years ago as…” Mahinda Rajapakse faces a difficult situation. He is a man who has championed human rights for decades. As he himself said once “Mahinda is a man of human rights”. The time has now come for Mahinda to prove his mettle. This takes moral and political courage but let us hope that the “Weeraketiya Sinhaya” has what it takes”.
    My personal view is that he has proved beyond doubts that he does not have the mettle to champion human rights. Normally I don’t comment but could not resist posting the below link when I read the above article. Please follow this link……
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQhvQ8ypBy0

  191. —-Comment 187—– Mr Seguttuvan,

    Watching the Aussuies calling the Englishmen “POMS:” with all the juicy adjectives added, during. the recently concluded Ashes.I thought POMMIE is a friendly nickname .

    I am afraid I was wrong again Aren’t I?

    I know really we should barrack for the Pommies to show gratitude.

    But I can’t because us Sinhalese have a closer bond to Aussies .

    First, the original Aussies were directly related to our Queen Kuveni.I

    I have a gut feeling that Kuveni is from the Pitjantjartja Tribe, because even to day there are resemblances between them and some of us.

    Secondly, the new Aussies have had the rough end of the stick from the Pommies as same as us rural Sinhala Buddhists.

    To top it all our young generation thinks everything Aussie is cool.

    So I have to go with the flow or to follow the flock which I learned from the better English gurus here.

  192. To be honest, I hard a hearty laugh when I found that that Dushmanthe had named his children “Annaliza” and “Julian”… this is the very definition of “try hard” in my book. We’ve seen this many a time – Sri Lankan parents so desperate to fit into their adopted homeland, giving their children the most ridiculous names and priding themselves on the fact that their children cannot speak their native tongue. To me, it’s just plain all sad. And I think Dushmanthe is just trying to fit in with his white-skinned British masters which is why he is trying to denigrate Sri Lanka and the Sinhalese people (it’s part of the package — the Tamil community has similar people as well). He probably converted long ago to Christianity, convinced that it would give him “better opportunities” in an Anglo-Saxon-Protestant country. These people are a lost cause, and will have no connection to Sri Lanka in a generation or two.

    BSJ RESPONDS:

    Speaking of western names our first prime minister was Don Stephen. His son was Dudley. His nephew was John Lionel Kotelawela. The father of Marxism in Lanka was Philip. Some of his erstwhile Trotskyite comrades were Martin,Colvin, Leslie, Bernard, Edmund etc

    Even our President is Percival. His brother is Basil

    Are these people anti-national because of western names?

    Also how about the people converted to Catholicism who bear Portugese names ?

    More importantly how about numerous Sinhala Buddhists with surnames like Perera, Silva,Fernando, Soysa ,Pieris etc?

  193. Kalu Albert,

    Looks to me like you have taken more than you can chew – and you are choking. Relax, pal. Rub a little Nethralaya Thel
    on your nut and drown your sorrows with a few shots of
    dudlige sudhiya. May have helped, if you had visited Liberty Plaza where Gina – the hot Nona (our answer to Lady Gaga) could have soothed your nerves with some comfort dames from the collapsed Soviets. But she’s in the cooler – courtesy GR. She’d be missing the safety net of Pasky now counting the lollies in Ole Blighty.

    ISS

  194. —–Comment 194 — Mr Dushmantha’s comparison of Great Britain ,his adopted ” Mother Land” and his real Mother Land”

    “”Over there, the fascists are marginalised. Over here they are running the government.”

    “Thats why libraries are burnt down, civilians burnt in the streets, Tamils bussed out of Colombo, Tamil national anthem scrapped etc and the herd does not protest, but follow until terrorists are blowing them up as a direct consequence.”

    Where were the street riots last month , during the most important Christian festive Season of the Year?

    Didn’t Srilankans celebrate Christmas in a grand manner with not even one pickpocket harassing the shoppers?

    Didn’t they have the most peaceful Christmas festivities in modern times?

    Didn’t the Christians burn thousands tied to trees alive?if you want to take your arguments into more specific areas?

    How many Libraries were burnt in total last 5, 10 or even 15 or 20 years.?

    I thought you had Swedish people working for you!

    The Americans, the Brits and the Aussies I have communicated with want clear , direct relevant and specfic facts or details in communication.

    They would not not tolerate wild assertions , claims and insinuations,

    They have one stock answer, which goes like this “Don’t talk Bull shit.”

  195. —– Comment 201—- Mr Sengutuvan,

    I am glad Sir, at least you got the nuts to come to good old Gina’s side.

    It is always good to reciprocate kindness and favors.

    The only other source of support I have noted was from our friend Namini Wijedasa’s rag, Lakbima news,

    I appreciate her stance, although we are diametrically opposite in other matters of importance.

    As Sinhala Buddhists we are tolerant, people with kindness , forgiveness and tranquility.

    After all Gina has been doing an excellent service to some sectors in the society as evident from ISS’s comment.

    Why should we stop that as long as she is providing the services in a legal manner.

    Even Buddha sowed kindness to the woman who practised the oldest profession even at a time that it wasn’t that old.

    Besides she is no threat to rural Sinhala Buddhist majority for they can’t afford the service charges,even if they have the will.

    Someone, a reliable source for that matter told me Cialis or Viagra works better than the “Nerthravalaya”that Mr Sengutuan recommends.

    But No”Dudlige Sudiya” for sure.

  196. 197. Dushy Ranetunge:

    air on the way, but I will continue to advocate that Sri Lankans should continue to question old practices, beliefs and prejudices that has landed our country at the doors of a war crimes tribunal and your leader of the your leader of the pack running out of London leaving bags behind.

    ———

    How has the beliefs and practices that surround temple of tooth landed us in present ethnic conflict?

    Hasn’t the wars started an executed by Americans and the Brits not resulted in far worst human tragedy than ours without even a murmur of war crimes from the most vociferous advocates of war crimes and human rights in the world? So why on earth should we feel guilty of committing war crimes when bias against us is so obvious?

    How is the situation that the President had to face in London in anyway shameful? Does acceptance by the West imply in anyway that one is dignified or vice versa?

  197. My Dear Navin,

    When I was in Jaffna in August, an old Tamil man who owned a petrol station told us that Tamils want equality. He expressed to us what I know to be the mainstrem Tamil opinion, of being dissatisfied with the present status quo, but tolerating it, because they have to.

    Last night I was at a Home Coming at Mt Lavinia hotel of a politicians son and his new wife, and was in the company of some of the illustrious politicians in the country…the young ones shall we say, two tables full of them.

    I left the herd and sat on the beach with three interesting people and chatted. One was an airforce man who had landed a helicopter in Jaffna fort when it was under siege by the LTTE for over a month. the other had a school in Jaffna and used to travel frequently to LTTE Jaffna and had links with Tamils. The third was someone who represented the opinion of a majority of the Sinhalese. All Three were Sinhalese.

    The opinions express reflected what is found here on this blog.

    The Sinhalese who represented the majority view was happy that it was ONE NATION and he said that Tamils are also happy and living in his ONE NATION.

    Because of my association with Tamils, I knew this was not true. Tamils often tell Sinhalese what they want to hear and try to please them, because they fear of Sinhalese they meet casually.

    The Sinhalese who had a school in Jaffna and used to travel to Jaffna expressed a completely different opinion. I cannot put it all down here, but I will try to list it as follows;

    (1) Sri Lanka is becoming like a Chinese colony.
    (2) Tamils he knows in the East are saying they had more security under LTTE.
    (3) Robberies in Jaffna and Tamils being told not to wear Jewellery outdoor or wear fake ones.
    (4) They suspect that Sinhalese gangs are robbing from Tamils in Jaffna.
    (5) That Tamils in Jaffna are just tolerating, but not happy with the status quo.
    (6) Tamils settled on the A9 up to Elephant pass are small numbers known and trusted by army, often no men are settled in the family units and virtual military lock down.
    (7) the level of brainwashing of Sinhalese by government is even more than what Prabakaran did to the Tamils.
    (8) Sinhalese are happy with information they are being fed with and are blissfully ignorant of the feelings of the Tamils.

    The ex-airforce man says, if you leave even one family member alive in a LTTE family, he will one day be associated with the dead LTTE relative, would be regarded as some sort of a hero and will start the cycle again so, terrorists and potential terrorists should be executed. Even Israeli’s say the same thing.

    He was expressing a military point of view.

    Navin, there is a structural problem in Sri Lanka.

    For us to build a nation at peace with itself, we must encourage the concept of citizenship based on equality.

    All the little cultural things such as the dalada maligawa, Nagadipa, Sri Pada etc, are a pollution and distortion of buddhism, for a nationalist agenda to underpin a concept of linking a race to land.

    Nagadipa results in a land claim – Sinhalese to Jaffna.

    With the demise of Buddhism in India, Buddhist monks instilled a nationalist element into Sinhalese buddhism to ensure that Buddhism will be linked to Sinhalese and that it will be able to successfully resist Hindu expansion in India.

    This concept is irreconcilable with the concept of equality and citizenship, as Tamils are viewed as South Indian invaders, and similar attitudes towards Muslims and even Christians.

    Obama a Black may be the President of the United States, Disraeli a jew may have been the Prime Minister of Britain, but could a Tamil or a muslim become the President of Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. Can you remember What happened when they proposed Kadirgamar?

    We must critically evaluate our “cultural” baggage and prejudices and try to see them in the correct perspective, not go with the herd, which will simply result in a repeating of history and all its mistakes.

    Your children and mine must have a peaceful Sri Lanka where human rights are respected and where their security will not be compromised.

    At present, peace is achieved via the barrel of a chinese rifle. This is the Sri Lanka I aspire for my and your children.

  198. My Dear Navin,
    When I was in Jaffna in August, an old Tamil man who owned a petrol station told us that Tamils want equality. He expressed to us what I know to be the mainstrem Tamil opinion, of being dissatisfied with the present status quo, but tolerating it, because they have to.
    Last night I was at a Home Coming at Mt Lavinia hotel of a politicians son and his new wife, and was in the company of some of the illustrious politicians in the country…the young ones shall we say, two tables full of them.
    I left the herd and sat on the beach with three interesting people and chatted. One was an airforce man who had landed a helicopter in Jaffna fort when it was under siege by the LTTE for over a month. the other had a school in Jaffna and used to travel frequently to LTTE Jaffna and had links with Tamils. The third was someone who represented the opinion of a majority of the Sinhalese. All Three were Sinhalese.
    The opinions express reflected what is found here on this blog.
    The Sinhalese who represented the majority view was happy that it was ONE NATION and he said that Tamils are also happy and living in his ONE NATION.
    Because of my association with Tamils, I knew this was not true. Tamils often tell Sinhalese what they want to hear and try to please them, because they fear of Sinhalese they meet casually.
    The Sinhalese who had a school in Jaffna and used to travel to Jaffna expressed a completely different opinion. I cannot put it all down here, but I will try to list it as follows;
    (1) Sri Lanka is becoming like a Chinese colony.
    (2) Tamils he knows in the East are saying they had more security under LTTE.
    (3) Robberies in Jaffna and Tamils being told not to wear Jewellery outdoor or wear fake ones.
    (4) They suspect that Sinhalese gangs are robbing from Tamils in Jaffna.
    (5) That Tamils in Jaffna are just tolerating, but not happy with the status quo.
    (6) Tamils settled on the A9 up to Elephant pass are small numbers known and trusted by army, often no men are settled in the family units and virtual military lock down.
    (7) the level of brainwashing of Sinhalese by government is even more than what Prabakaran did to the Tamils.
    (8) Sinhalese are happy with information they are being fed with and are blissfully ignorant of the feelings of the Tamils.
    The ex-airforce man says, if you leave even one family member alive in a LTTE family, he will one day be associated with the dead LTTE relative, would be regarded as some sort of a hero and will start the cycle again so, terrorists and potential terrorists should be executed. Even Israeli’s say the same thing.
    He was expressing a military point of view.
    Navin, there is a structural problem in Sri Lanka.
    For us to build a nation at peace with itself, we must encourage the concept of citizenship based on equality.
    All the little cultural things such as the dalada maligawa, Nagadipa, Sri Pada etc, are a pollution and distortion of buddhism, for a nationalist agenda to underpin a concept of linking a race to land.
    Nagadipa results in a land claim – Sinhalese to Jaffna.
    With the demise of Buddhism in India, Buddhist monks instilled a nationalist element into Sinhalese buddhism to ensure that Buddhism will be linked to Sinhalese and that it will be able to successfully resist Hindu expansion in India.
    This concept is irreconcilable with the concept of equality and citizenship, as Tamils are viewed as South Indian invaders, and similar attitudes towards Muslims and even Christians.
    Obama a Black may be the President of the United States, Disraeli a jew may have been the Prime Minister of Britain, but could a Tamil or a muslim become the President of Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. Can you remember What happened when they proposed Kadirgamar?
    We must critically evaluate our “cultural” baggage and prejudices and try to see them in the correct perspective, not go with the herd, which will simply result in a repeating of history and all its mistakes.
    Your children and mine must have a peaceful Sri Lanka where human rights are respected and where their security will not be compromised.
    At present, peace is achieved via the barrel of a chinese rifle. This is NOT the Sri Lanka I aspire for my and your children.

  199. Dear friend Kalu Albert:

    I must admit you do add some spice to the discussion.
    I don’t wish to rub it in but I cannot resist contradicting your comment

    “As Sinhala Buddhists we are tolerant, people with kindness , forgiveness and tranquility’

    I noted it was attributed to a friend of mine – a highly respected senior Minister the following words after 7/83 “Sunday sil Monday Kill” I do not generalise. There were many practising Sinhalese who came to the aid of their Tamil friends – me/family included” Prince Siddartha, after all, was Hindu and his origins from the wider Sanaartha Dharma must have passed on to the followers of his teachings – even after two millenia and half.

    ISS

  200. My Dear Kalu Albert,

    You have raised the issue of riots.

    Close to the end of the war, with rising Sinhalese nationalism, I was fearful that it will overspill into hostility against Tamils. It did not happen.

    But the potential was very much there.

    At the time I visited a Hotel in Benthota.

    The staff know me well and I am a regular customer and while chatting I said, I hope there is no rioting against Tamils. A female staff member responded “what if something happens to our Mahinda”?

    The insinuation was that if Mahinda was assassinated by a Tamil, riots against Tamils may be justified.

    I have contact with Tamils as well as the highest levels of Muslim society in Sri Lanka and I encounter fear of Sinhalese nationalism overspilling into their homes.

    It is a real fear.

    As a citizen, if I had to live with such fear, it will make me angry.

    After a visit from Medawachchiya to Mannar, I mentioned to a female supervisor at Arpico in Kandy that I felt shocked and sad to see miles of barbed wire and tin shacks holding thousands of Tamils and that seeing it in real life rather than on TV was disturbing.

    She said “dont worry, they are Tamils”.

  201. Dear #170 Kalu Albert

    Then again we as Buddhists are taught and trained to follow the path of good Buddhist practices which include kindness and forgiveness to even our enemies..
    “So as a fellow Buddhist I have no qualms about you defending this person.

    Kindness and forgiveness are infinitely more important than any number of Tooth Relics, but I have to make a correction. I am not defending Dushmantha but rather what he said about the Tooth Relic. Personally I feel that Dushy is sabotaging the progressive cause in Sri Lanka by alienating the majority with his remarks. He is just making the backwards forces stronger. So I have no interest in defending him. However, what he said about the Tooth Relic and the contradiction with the Dhamma is correct.

    Still the vast majority of these Sinhala Buddhists abhor killing. They are reluctant to kill even serpents and insects.

    The vast majority of Tamils also abhor killing, so in that sense there is hardly any difference with us. The question would arise how such a violent and destructive force like the LTTE could come from a nonviolent community like Tamils. The converse question also would arise how so much anti-Tamil violence took place when the Sinhala majority abhors killing.

    I’ll leave it to our Tamils here to answer the first question. As to the second question, I would say that we (Sinhalese) have suffered from a profound ignorance of Tamils that has been exploited by politicians. I argued elsewhere that Mahavamsa does not give us a superiority complex (contrary to what some Tamils claim), but Mahavamsa does provide a view of the Tamils that is inconsistent to what they are today.

    Because of this incorrect view, we treat Tamils as foreigners when they have lived in the island for hundreds of years. Prabakaran was not an imperial Chola invader but rather a “bhoomiputra” of the worst kind.

    For this reason I encourage Sinhalese to look beyond their traditions (but not turn their backs on them) to understand the outside world and other people. Lord Buddha told us individually to be islands unto ourselves, but no civilization can be such a detached island in ignorant isolation from the rest of the world. That is a recipe for recolonisation.

    We have expressed our deep sorrow at the loss of these 5 young lives.
    “We have equally expressed our sorrow at the loss of hundreds of innocent , children and mothers who were hacked to death and others who were blasted to pieces with suicide bombs.

    Two comments:
    1) It is not enough to express sorrow for these five students. We have to find justice for them. That is what their parents want. Thanks to UTHR we have a good idea of who the perpetrators were.

    2) We cannot compare Trinco 5 killing to LTTE terrorist attacks because Mahinda and Gotabhaya are not (or should not) be terrorists.

    For you to ridicule or belittle them for for believing in the Tooth Relic is not good Buddhist practice..
    The whole Buddhist nation believe it is the Relic of Lord Buddha.as much as the whole Christian Nation world wide believe Jesus Christ arose from death for the salvation of his followers.

    First I am not belittling them but rather their misguided faith in Tooth Relic. Second your analogy is inappropriate. Whereas the resurrection of Christ is the key foundation for the Christians’ faith (and explains why I can never be one myself), the key foundation for our faith is that Siddhartha Gautama became the Buddha and taught how he did that. Tooth Relic plays no role in this faith. Even Kandy Perahera is an insignificant distraction when you compare it with the Four Noble Truths and Noble Eightfold Path.

    The 1817-8 Wellassa uprising ended after the British captured the Tooth Relic, saying “Its recovery had a manifest effect on all classes and its having fallen into British hands again by accident, demonstrated to the superstitious people that it was the destiny of the British Nation to govern the Kandyan Kingdom.”

  202. My Dear Navin,

    I will try to address your other points.

    You say

    “Hasn’t the wars started an executed by Americans and the Brits not resulted in far worst human tragedy than ours without even a murmur of war crimes from the most vociferous advocates of war crimes and human rights in the world? So why on earth should we feel guilty of committing war crimes when bias against us is so obvious?

    there are many points I could raise in response, but I will raise just two.

    Does the fact that someone else commits murder, justify in any way, your right to commit murder? Doesn’t Bringing such an argument in itself expose our guilt?

    Will you offer such a defence in a court of law?

    You say

    “How is the situation that the President had to face in London in anyway shameful? Does acceptance by the West imply in anyway that one is dignified or vice versa?”

    There was no British government involvement in what happened in London. In fact Scotland Yard warned Mahinda that evidence had been produced before Horseferry Road Magistrates court in Westminster and the possibility that a warrant may be secured, when he fled.

    Next morning when the Magistrate made inquiries before issuing a warrant for arrest, he was advised that the party had left the country overnight and no warrant was issued.

    Unfortunately it is suspected that there is a great deal of evidence both satellite and ground evidence available on war crimes, particularly extra judicial executions. It is assessed that the level of evidence is greater than that found in the Yogoslav trials.

    What happened in London is a process of law enacted as a result of advancements in the international legal field and treaties in respect of war crimes and human rights.

    It is a shame that after conducting the war so well, that we had to get involved in unwarranted complications which could have been avoided.

    Last Sunday I had dinner with Dr Palitha Kohona, our permanent Representative to the United Nations at the Lagoon restaurant in Colombo.

    He made an astute observation.

    He said that there are no guarantees by being friendly with China etc and when it suites the big powers, they get together for their convenience. As an example he pointed to Sudan a significant ally of China, but their President was recently charged with war crimes by the International Criminal court because China looked the other way as it suited them to do so.

  203. I can agree atleast one thing for sure with Dushey R. We definetely need a tamil PM, but not a president yet (until the mutual trust between races is established).

    Lakshman Kadiragamar was the best person even to be the president of SL. I don’t know whether there’ll be an unbiased, moderate, smart politician like him anymore within the tamil community as the LTTE led by Velvetithurai bicycle thief finished off all of them.

    SL buddhist monks who can be the real threat for a tamil to be a PM should completely be ignored and not be consulted for anything related to state administration other than religious issues.

    LTTE took so much from tamils than sinhalese. Finally we have to wait another generation to see a smart, moderate, decent politician to emerge from SL tamils which is so unfortunate.

  204. 205. Dushy:

    Thanks for your reply.

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    My Dear Navin,
    When I was in Jaffna in August, an old Tamil man who owned a petrol station told us that Tamils want equality. He expressed to us what I know to be the mainstrem Tamil opinion, of being dissatisfied with the present status quo, but tolerating it, because they have to.

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    It goes without saying that all people including Tamils should be treated equally.

    I admit that there have been policies adopted by the Sinhalese which were discriminatory towards Tamils. I however, hold the opinion that in many of these instances, there is more to it than just Tamils been discriminated.

    For instance prior to standardization students from rural areas were at a disadvantage. It was however, completely wrong on part of the then government to identify students who were at a disadvantage as been Sinhalese and others as Tamil. Sinhalese vs. Tamil classification is completely orthogonal to who was at an advantage vs. disadvantaged breakdown. Still, its clear that those who are shouting against standardization are not Tamils from rural areas. Similarly, I’m pretty sure had it not been for the Tamils, standardization would have taken a much longer time to come to existence for rural Sinhalese are also voiceless as much.

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    The Sinhalese who represented the majority view was happy that it was ONE NATION and he said that Tamils are also happy and living in his ONE NATION.

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    Different people have different abilities. When one has the wound its easy to realize how painful it is. When its someone else’s wound it takes some thinking and empathy to realize what the other person is going through. I won’t brandish Sinhalese as ignorant. They are ordinary people. There are more people who are empathetic than those who are mean and ignorant. Its has to be that way. Thus the reason why the Sinhalese think in this way is because that’s the simplest solution which majority can comprehend given what they see and have experienced.

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    Sri Lanka is becoming like a Chinese colony.

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    This is a different problem which has nothing to do with Tamils. If Tamils are worried about it, it is more likely because they cannot blackmail us through India should Sri Lanka drift into a Chinese orbit than out of genuine concern. At least blackmail will become difficult.

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    Tamils he knows in the East are saying they had more security under LTTE.
    Robberies in Jaffna and Tamils being told not to wear Jewellery outdoor or wear fake ones.
    They suspect that Sinhalese gangs are robbing from Tamils in Jaffna.

    ———–

    How the government is handling the post LTTE scenario needs to be discussed separately. I find it difficult to believe that government is intentionally terrorizing a population. Reason– absence of a motive. Given the scale of these problems, their past and present status, it is more likely that government is finding it difficult to handle things. There certainly will be petty crooks making hay while the sun
    is shining but at the top, I believe government has no such ill will.

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    That Tamils in Jaffna are just tolerating, but not happy with the status quo.

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    I’m not surprised that Tamils are finding it difficult to get their aspirations addressed. Everybody has aspirations. Not just Tamils. However, I find it difficult to believe that it is equally hard to get their basic needs like security and non-discrimination fulfilled– provided you work with the government and propose realistic solutions. For instance security for Tamils cannot come at the expense of resurgence of LTTE and vice-versa. If Tamils cannot get even the basic needs addressed then that implies total ignorance on part of government. I don’t think we have such a government. I’m not saying this based on MR’s speeches. I don’t take his words for granted. Yet, when one looks at what MR has done and what he has not done, Sinhalese people, local and regional politics, what happened in the past and why, it just doesn’t add up that MR has intention to subjugate Tamils.

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    Tamils settled on the A9 up to Elephant pass are small numbers known and trusted by army, often no men are settled in the family units and virtual military lock down.

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    One has to expect these things isn’t it? Is this a good enough reason to jump the gun and picket in London that GOSL is supressing Tamil rights? This is exactly what I pointed out above. There are many bloggers here who ask why is that we are not recruiting Tamils to the army! Given what has been going on here for 30 years is that such a surprise? If in another 30 years, we are still doing the same thing then that’s cause for concern but not right now.

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    the level of brainwashing of Sinhalese by government is even more than what Prabakaran did to the Tamils.

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    You are exaggerating things here. If you want to be heard please, Please don’t exaggerate things. There are enough and many people who exaggerate things for their own ends. You too will be lumped together in the same lot.

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    Sinhalese are happy with information they are being fed with and are blissfully ignorant of the feelings of the Tamils.

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    Most people in this country can read. If you write things clearly and without rhetoric I think people’s opinion will change. I refuse to admit that there is no media freedom here. Certainly, we don’t have as much freedom as you would find in other places but its also not the case that there is blanket censorship. Hell, it took only one attack for Bush to sign in patriotic act. God knows what else would have come into play had there be more of the same kind. Now, had Sri Lankan government signed something similar should some unknown terrorists group attack us tomorrow with a death blow of the kind of 9/11 I’m sure human rights cartel and the west will go to town with it. So these things cannot be looked at in black and white. Its not that west has total media freedom and Sri Lanka has none. Sri Lanka and west are two separate regions facing different issues under different circumstances.

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    The ex-airforce man says, if you leave even one family member alive in a LTTE family, he will one day be associated with the dead LTTE relative, would be regarded as some sort of a hero and will start the cycle again so, terrorists and potential terrorists should be executed. Even Israeli’s say the same thing.
    He was expressing a military point of view.

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    This is a very sad situation but of course to be expected. Rehabilitation should not be just for LTTE carders but there should be some form of counseling for our own men and women as well. How many medical students do you think faint when they see their first dead-body? How many doctors do you think faint when they see a dead-body?

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    Navin, there is a structural problem in Sri Lanka.

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    This I’m not so sure.

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    For us to build a nation at peace with itself, we must encourage the concept of citizenship based on equality.

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    Agreed. But my question is how is Buddhism an impediment for building such a nation.

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    All the little cultural things such as the dalada maligawa, Nagadipa, Sri Pada etc, are a pollution and distortion of buddhism, for a nationalist agenda to underpin a concept of linking a race to land.

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    Tooth relic may not be authentic. It could be the Portuguese that destroyed it. It could very well be that we never got the authentic tooth or that we never got anything as such in the first place. There is no way to prove it either way. Even if some scientist were to get hold of it and do a DNA test and say it is an animal tooth, given what it is if it is indeed authentic and that the scientist could be wrong even if probability is very small, we cannot throw it away. All this is not relevant in the first place. Correct me if I’m wrong but I still see no connection between Sinhalese beliefs about the tooth and Tamil problems.

    Sinhalese and Tamils have their distinct cultures. Americans and Japanese are lucky that they are homogeneous people– at least more homogeneous than us and in the case of the Americans have no cultural or historical baggage like we do. I agree with you that it most certainly would have been a lot easier to solve these problems had we been a monolithic community but whether we like it or not that’s not the case.

    Your approach is to construct a monolithic community out of a culturally diverse and distinct people. This is a simple solution motivated perhaps by looking at monolithic countries elsewhere in the world where people happen to get along just fine. However, this just isn’t going to WORK. Neither Sinhalese nor Tamils will trade their cultural identity for greater integration. What’s more, to demonize Sinhalese Buddhist icons and practices will be viewed as been totally bias and as an attempt to dilute one culture and emphasize another. There is a much better solution. Which is to seek unity in diversity. Sinhalese shall respect Tamil culture and Tamils shall respect Sinhalese culture.

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    Nagadipa results in a land claim – Sinhalese to Jaeffna.

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    Tamils need to understand and accommodate that rather than ridicule it as been a myth. How many legends are behind Tamil’s own
    claim to land in Jaffna. You can pit facts against facts, facts against legends but not legends against legends. Tamil legends are
    not any more credible than those of Sinhalese. Unless, you can prove that a legend is false with facts, legend will continue to
    be a legend. Absence of facts is not proof of legend been false.

    On the other hand, how much is it that Tamils stand to loose in allowing Sinhalese to come and worship at Nagadepa? Its just one small temple in the middle of nowhere isn’t it? I say they should take Sinhalese for a ride and make a buck out of local tourism. It would be nice to see some Tamils going and offering prayers at Naga Deepa– that won’t do them no harm. After all, they say Tamils are the descendants of Nagas. So they have as much to celebrate of it as the Sinhalese. All that the legend says is that Buddha did an awful lot of good to the Naga’s at the time.

    It is however, a different story if Sinhalese start building temples all over the place citing this legend and that legend. At that point one should call it a day and stop.

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    With the demise of Buddhism in India, Buddhist monks instilled a nationalist element into Sinhalese Buddhism to ensure that Buddhism will be linked to Sinhalese and that it will be able to successfully resist Hindu expansion in India.

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    I agree. But Buddhist monks did what they had to do. It has nothing to do with Buddhism or Sinhalese. Its just protection of a cultural identity. Its the same thing the Tamils are doing now. Protesting Sinhalese advances into lands they inhibit. Whether Sinhalese have a right to do what they are doing is a different matter. They fear their culture will get diluted. Two sides of the same coin isn’t it?

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    This concept is irreconcilable with the concept of equality and citizenship, as Tamils are viewed as South Indian invaders, and similar attitudes towards Muslims and even Christians.

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    We really don’t know what was the contribution of South Indian invasions to the Sri Lankan Tamil community. Sri Lankan Tamils could be the result of South Indian invasion or cultural assimilation or some combination of both factors among many others.

    Whatever may be the origins of the community its completely orthogonal to the concept of equality. As far as equality is concerned what matters is that they have been here for a long long time according to both facts and legends and that they are no less human than anyone else. So if you are careful, history and equality are not irreconcilable. We can certainly find a compromise where history and religion are not taboo and WE MUST. To forget history is like to forget our ancestors. What would those who built the great monuments in A & P think if we do not remember them. Certainly they would shame us if we quarrel in their name.

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    Obama a Black may be the President of the United States, Disraeli a jew may have been the Prime Minister of Britain, but could a Tamil or a Muslim become the President of Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. Can you remember What happened when they proposed Kadirgamar?

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    Barack Obama is the 44th president of USA. MR is the 4th president of Sri Lanka. It took Americans over 200 years to elect a Black president. Hell, they even made slaves of Blacks didn’t they? Sinhalese on the other hand have had 2000 years of existence but no where it is said, we made slaves of Tamils or anyone. Isn’t it? So give it time. What’s more, LK came really close didn’t he? Had he been alive, I’m sure he would have been the premier today.

    Again, LK and MR are indeed close contenders. You cannot say that LK deserves to be the president a lot than MR. Yes, LK is lot more an educated all rounder but he has his weaknesses too. I have my doubts whether LK would have been able to hold all these bickering corrupt politicians together the way MR has done. MR is able to move with people of LK’s caliber and also deal with goons like Mervin Silva. Unfortunately, this is part of the job. I still doubt given all the turmoil one finds in this country’s politics, an honest gentlemen of the sort of LK, no matter how witty or apt he may be could handle things. In summary choice between LK and MR was not that clear cut. MR may have played the race card. Shame on him if he did that. There was no reason to. But certainly, I don’t think LK could row this boat. It would be nice to have someone of LK’s honesty, knowledge etc. and political savvy of MR.

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    We must critically evaluate our “cultural” baggage and prejudices and try to see them in the correct perspective, not go with the herd, which will simply result in a repeating of history and all its mistakes.

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    Critically evaluate, Agreed. BUT, the right solution is not the simplest solution or the one that works elsewhere or happens to work everywhere else. Need to critically evaluate not just the situation but also any proposed solution and we must not go with the herd:-)

    Thanks again for your post. I will respond to others as time permits.

  205. 205. Dushy:

    Obama a Black may be the President of the United States, Disraeli a jew may have been the Prime Minister of Britain, but could a Tamil or a Muslim become the President of Prime Minister of Sri Lanka. Can you remember What happened when they proposed Kadirgamar?

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    I just want to add some more to this. Why did LK become so popular among Sinhalese? Has any Tamil politician of late done anything even remotely beneficial to the Sinhalese. In that context, how can you blame the Sinhalese or the system for not giving opportunity to Tamil leaders. I would say, if LK’s case shows us anything, that is not that opportunity is not there but that it is very much there and we just don’t have
    the right Tamil leaders. None of the TNA guys will ever make it even closer to becoming PM let alone president. Is the system or Sinhalese to
    blame? Hardly. They have chosen to champion the cause of a minority at the expense of the majority. They better face the consequences of their actions rather than blame others. You cannot have a president who favors a minority at the expense of majority. Barack Obama is not a guy who just champions the cause of Blacks. He is someone who is lot more American than he is Black. We don’t have that kind of Tamil politicians here.

  206. —– Comment 210 Mr Dushmantha Ranatunga,

    –” Last Sunday I had dinner with Dr Palitha Kohona, our permanent Representative to the United Nations at the Lagoon restaurant in Colombo.”–

    Doen’t Dr Kohona read the Tamil Week? I guess not.

    What returns does Dr Kohona expect to get for us, the people who pay Dr Kohona’s renumeration plus his Diners Card, by entertaining a seial Sinhala Buddhist Basher like Dushmantha?

    If Dushmantha picked the tab, then it is OK as long as Dr Kohona does not compromise his duty to safe guard and defend our counyry and our President at the United Nations.

    By the way how is the tucker and the Wine List at the Lagoon, just in case !

  207. Respond to #208 by Dushi Ranatunge:

    This man is way out of touch. No wonder when people go to Canada or UK, they think they become “Mr. Right” they have the best answers for everything.
    You left SL for your green pasture. Why don’t you leave Sri lankans alone to solve their problems.
    Enjoy your retirement in your adopted country.

  208. 205 : Dushy Ranetunge

    Obama a Black may be the President of the United States, Disraeli a jew may have been the Prime Minister of Britain, but could a Tamil or a muslim become the President of Prime Minister of Sri Lanka.
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    Would Obama have become the first Black President of US if he contested from a exclusively Black party? Would he have become the president if there was a violent, militant, black seperatist movement in some corner of US?

    Or more importantly, would he have become the president if he was a practicing Muslim?

    same with Disraeli. He was acceptable (bearly) because he came up through an established “mainstream” political party.

    People who love to bring up BO as an example to Sri Lanka should ask those questions. He had to go out of his way to prove that he is a Christian. More than 30% of the population in US even now believe that he is a Muslim and he was not born in US so that he is not elligible to be the US president.

    If a popular Tamil came up through the ranks of SLFP or UNP, would Singhalese oppose? probably not. Fernandopulle or Kadiragama probably would have a good chance now as opposed to then.

  209. —- Comment 217— Ranjan

    A Brilliant point Ranjan,

    Would Uncle Sam have Malcolm X as the President !!!!!! or even Governor of New Orleans?

    Didn’t one of our PM’s offer the CM post to Mr Vellupillai Prabakaran?

    Didn’t one of our ex Presidents say even as late as last week that she desperately wanted do that herself even at the expense of becoming a Dictator?

  210. —– Comment 208 Mr Dushmantha Ranetunge

    ””As a citizen, if I had to live with such fear, it will make me angry.”

    Sure, Sure, That was what majority of the 90 percent f Srilankans endured for thirty years.

    That is three decades. which in terms of human life covers the birth tertiary education, marriage, at least 3 to 4 years of working life and may be even a couple kids.

    But you weren’t there. Were you?

    Now you traverse the length and the breadth of the same land without any fear right?,

    Unless of course one of our cheeky kids call you “Kalu Sudda”perhaps thinking that you won’t understand the lingo.

    There is no fear my friend among the Sinhala people especially the Sinhala Buddhists .

    They are only interested in a good life for their kids ,

    All they wish is to give them at least some of the benefits that your kids, that you and your mates adore. enjoy in those lands of plenty.

    The incessant Rajapaksa and Sinhal Buddhist bashing of you lot, will never succeed in creating that anger outcome you are expecting .

    Sinhalase are a lot smarter than you think.

    They are not going to jeopardise their new found freedom, confidence and the path to prosperity.

  211. # 214 Naveen & # 217 Ranjan

    Hats off to your comments above. Some people just talk on the surface of anything. They don’t understand what actually led those situations and Why?

    This happens when you try to justify something which is not the truth.

  212. Dear Navin #213,

    Correct me if I’m wrong but I still see no connection between Sinhalese beliefs about the tooth and Tamil problems.

    As I explained to Kalu Albert, there is no direct connection but there certainly are implications. There is a difference between faith and blind faith. Believing in Buddha is faith: it is possible that Siddhartha Gautama did not become the Buddha (or did not even live), but there is no way to prove or disprove that. As you pointed out though, one can do DNA test or even simply look at the Tooth Relic to determine that it is not the Buddha’s. Therefore to persist in this belief is blind faith.

    A Buddhist can accept that the tooth was lost because of the law of impermanence. But the people who cannot accept this are rejecting the law of impermanence which is one of the pillars of the Dhamma. That is why I personally cannot celebrate Tooth Relic. It is a symptom of our weakness as a people. We are naive, superstitious, and as a result *easily frightened.*

    When we are frightened, we deviate from our normally peaceful selves. We may not commit violence, but we will look the other way when injustices are being committed. There were many Sinhalese who saved Tamils during the 1983 violence. But, as Dayan J himself pointed out, there weren’t enough good Sinhalese to counter the evil Sinhalese. That is how the war started.

    My dream is for Sinhala people to become wiser so that we will not become frightened easily, whether by Tamils, Europeans, or even each other. Then we will no longer be weak.

  213. 210. Dushy:

    At present, peace is achieved via the barrel of a chinese rifle. This is NOT the Sri Lanka I aspire for my and your children.

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    Certainly. However, peace achieved after succumbing to American, British or Indian blackmail is also equally worthless.

    —–

    Does the fact that someone else commits murder, justify in any way, your right to commit murder? Doesn’t Bringing such an argument in itself expose our guilt?

    Will you offer such a defense in a court of law?

    —–

    I do NOT justify war crimes. A crime is a crime regardless of who commits it. However, exactly what constitutes a “war crime” is the question that I’m raising here.

    I can give you many examples to show you that world is biased when they say Sri Lankan military committed “war crimes”.

    Take the case of Reuters photographs that show American soldiers shooting men trying to evacuate an injured child or subsequently Reuters journalists. Had the shooting been done by SL soldiers, this would be considered a prima facie case of a war crime. Now what has been the response from US? Soldiers followed the protocol — period. What protocol– who wrote it — we don’t know. Worst nobody seems to think we need to know. No body, not HRW, not AI, not Hague, sees any problem with this — everything is hunky dory and nothing bad happened.

    Personally, I think shotting people evacuating injured is barbaric. Shooting the journalist could be a case of misidentification. Therefore, we are been unfairly castigated as war criminals for incidents which are __not__ war crimes but unfortunate consequences of any war. That’s all I’m saying.

    Let me give you another example. There is accusation that SL soldiers bombed a hospital. The satellite evidence you cite will show damage caused to the hospital by artillery. Now people are saying GOSL forces committed a war
    crime because they have targeted a hospital. But what is purposely left out is the fact LTTE used to attack forces from near or within the hospital complex. In that situation the hospital becomes a legitimate target. On May 3, 2008 according to a report I found on the net 20 patients and workers in al-Sadr Hospital were wounded and 49 civilian and ambulance vehicles were damaged when U.S. warplanes opened fire at the hospital.

    Don’t you see the pattern here? Incidents are similar. Yet, whenever its been done by the Americans its not a war crime and is fully in line with “protocol”. No need of independent UN investigations though I don’t even know when you are investigating P5 how UN can be independent. When the same thing is done by Sri Lankan forces, they are war crimes and reports that appear here and there and any picture of damage or what is said by any tom, dick and harry is
    prima facie evidence. So why is it that even Sri Lankan journalists like you also jump the gun and start hammering the government in no less vigor than the west, that it committed war crimes! Where is critical thinking???

    By calling collateral damage as war crimes and allowing international investigations that very like have dubious motives, we are just shooting ourselves in the foot! We are trying to walk a tight rope that nobody in the world does. We are allowing others to set us a bar that they themselves do not set for their own conduct. Why? Because its impossible. This is like an examiner setting a test so that no one can pass! Worst, Sri Lankan military does not have the kind of advanced technology that the US has. Hence people should set the bar low for what constitutes a war crime for Sri Lanka military than the bar they set for US troops. However, whats happening here is exactly the opposite. Which is really hilarious.

    I don’t buy GR’s claims that no civilian was killed during SL war and every soldier in our military behaved as expected. We should conduct our own investigation and certainly see whether our soldiers took the law onto their hands or didn’t do everything in their power to protect unarmed civilians. Common sense tells that there must have been cases of bad conduct. We should do that for we are a civilized people and Tamils are part of this country’s people. We should do that because if we allow a few to misbehave then that tarnishes the image so painstakingly built up by many others risking their own lives.

    American’s won’t allow anybody in the world except themselves to investigate their soldiers for they believe that they could be subject to unfair trial. I just want our soldiers to be given the same fair/just treatment with respect to people they had to kill in order to win this war. For I believe I’m
    able to live safely today because of the heroic efforts of these men. Many soldiers who got killed in this war are much younger than
    myself. So I do not take it lightly when I speak about SL Army.

    I can go on and on about this, but I think you get the point.

  214. 221. wijayapala:

    Sorry, I still do not see the connection between beliefs that Sinhalese have about the _tooth_ (authentic, not authentic, blind faith, what have you …) and Tamil problems.

    For me its an artifact, so faithfully guarded by a people with no harm to anybody yet some people think that this faith is the root cause of all evil. Just don’t make sense.

  215. My Dear Kalu Albert,

    you say

    But you weren’t there. Were you?

    I was in Jaffna old boy staying with General Lohan Gunawardene who was in command. I was also in Trincomalee, sweetie, staying with Gen Sarath Fonseka who was in Command.

    I was also inside LTTE conferences in Canada, UK and Switzerland, putting my head inside and Tigers mouth as my friend Dr Rohan Guneratna explained.

    I was also inside the LTTE offices in London and Geneva, on some occasions accompanied by Sri Lankan High Commission staff who were shit scared.

    Where were you, honey bunch?

  216. #222 Navin
    Certainly. However, peace achieved after succumbing to American, British or Indian blackmail is also equally worthless
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    Will the UN intervention give us a worth full solution?
    An Eelam citizen

  217. Dushy Ranatunge, wheather you are a he or a she, We are not flower petals and we are not offended. I don’t know about others but I am not. what I am is disgusted, yes very much disgusted at your pathetic sarcasm towards others religion. No one who respects a religion insults other religions, so you must be an atheist. But that doen’t give you the right to insult others.

    Then again Who is Dushy to insult Buddhism? a mere mortal.

    This world is full of injustices. This is an unjust unfair world. It is true one must seek justice but one must not go haywire seeking it, first life must go on and then one can seek for justice, one may find it one may not,justice can come even death, That’s life.
    If interested in getting a solution to the problem, get to the point and leave other agendas aside.

  218. 218. Kalu Albert

    Didn’t one of our PM’s offer the CM post to Mr Vellupillai Prabakaran?

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    Pillaiyan is a Tamil CM of the Eastern Province. He says he doesn’t have enough powers to administer. It seems the CM’s post is only a ceremonial one with the bulk of the powers vested with the President.

    Why would VP leave his position as the absolute ruler of his land than to take up some ceremonial post?

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    221. wijayapala

    There is a difference between faith and blind faith. Believing in Buddha is faith:

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    I accept your point of view.

    If you believe in Budha it is your faith. If you believe that you are a sinhala budhist it is also your faith.

    If you believe that this island is blessed by the three visits of Budha it is also faith.

    If you believe that this island is only for the sinhala budhists others have to be content with the second class treatment it is beginning to lose faith and entering into the realms of insanity.

    If you believe that all the Tamils are invaders and they don’t belong to the island then it is blind faith.

    This blind faith is responsible for all the troubles of the island.

    And Mahavamsa has fuelled this kind of blind faith.

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    I do NOT justify war crimes. A crime is a crime regardless of who commits it. However, exactly what constitutes a “war crime” is the question that I’m raising here.

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    Yes in the heat of the war many crimes do get committed.

    But can you designate places as NFZ and then kill the civilians there.

    How can you use air power against the civilians. How can you shell the civilian positions using the MBRL’s.

    Can you shoot down the people who have surrendered to the army?

    How long can you detain people without giving the arrested people list to their family members?

    Even now you are encouraging the paramilitary forces under the DD and Karuna for doing the dirty job.

    May be your govt’s hand is there in that and also the army may be getting a cut from those atrocities.

    You did use essential commodities as weapons of war.

    These are only a few instanes that I eleborate.

    There is a long list of all these atrocities.

    If these are not war crimes then what else are war crimes.

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  219. —Comment 224 —- Mr D. Ranetunda

    “I was in Jaffna old boy staying with General Lohan Gunawardene who was in command. I was also in Trincomalee, sweetie, staying with Gen Sarath Fonseka who was in Command.”

    I bet they put a Bullet Proof Jacket on you, every time you ventured out.

    “I was also inside LTTE conferences in Canada, UK and Switzerland, putting my head inside and Tigers mouth as my friend Dr Rohan Guneratna explained”

    Ian’t it a must for PR officers to attend these conferences?”

    “I was also inside the LTTE offices in London and Geneva, on some occasions accompanied by Sri Lankan High Commission staff who were shit scared.”

    I am glad you admitted that our SL HC Staff were shit scared of the LTTE even in the epicenter of democracy, freedom and human rights !!

  220. 227. Mahesh:

    But can you designate places as NFZ and then kill the civilians there.

    How can you use air power against the civilians. How can you shell the civilian positions using the MBRL’s.

    Can you shoot down the people who have surrendered to the army?

    You did use essential commodities as weapons of war.

    If these are not war crimes then what else are war crimes.

    ———-

    Yes, yes, we are guilty of all this and mera bharat is the best! Can we have the next load of horseshit please? This crap is now pretty old and dry. Like channel 4, why don’t you find something fresh and juicy for a break at least every now then.

  221. Hi #227 Mahesh

    If you believe in Budha it is your faith.

    Thank you.

    If you believe that you are a sinhala budhist it is also your faith.

    Ummm… having faith in Buddha makes me a Buddhist. I identify myself as a Buddhist who happens to be Sinhala.

    If you believe that this island is blessed by the three visits of Budha it is also faith.

    I do not believe that the Buddha visited Sri Lanka. It is mentioned nowhere in the Tripitaka and it would have been too far for him to have traveled.

    And Mahavamsa has fuelled this kind of blind faith.

    That is not sufficient grounds to reject the Mahavamsa in its totality. “Ponniyin Selvan” helped inspire Prabakaran to murder thousands of people using a flag with a tiger, but that would be a silly reason to throw the book in the fire.

  222. I deplore this most apaling crime and ask MR and his government to resign immidiately with Ghotabhaya severely prosecuted for the crime

  223. 230. wijayapala

    That is not sufficient grounds to reject the Mahavamsa in its totality. “Ponniyin Selvan” helped inspire Prabakaran to murder thousands of people using a flag with a tiger, but that would be a silly reason to throw the book in the fire.

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    I am not asking anybody to reject Mahavamsa. It is a piece of history.

    The interpretation of the Mahavamsa has led to the blood bath in the island nation.

    That has fueled the racial tensions and discords.

    In that way it has become a controversial document. It is used as a weapon of war, in the ideological realms.

    The Budhism has always been an organized religion. In fact Swami Vivekananda would say that Budhists were the first people to propagate or proselytize their religion.

    As an organized religion they had the central authority and influence in the politics.

    When these things were threatened they wrote Mahavamsa to protect their turf.

    Therefore Mahavamsa should be understood in proper perspective and used as a means to unite the people.

    There are even now evidences to the Tamil presence in the island when the vijaya and his people got 700 brides from the Madurai.

    These things should be taken and used for forging unity instead of hatred amongst the populace.

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    229. Navin

    Yes, yes, we are guilty of all this and mera bharat is the best! Can we have the next load of horseshit please? This crap is now pretty old and dry. Like channel 4, why don’t you find something fresh and juicy for a break at least every now then.

    ————————————————–

    DO You want me talk about the robberies, kidnappings, murders happening in the North and East.

    Do you think these things would happen without the knowledge of the armed forces.

    Are the paramilitaries not being used by the state to do dirty work for it.

    Just because he got insulted in the oxford MR has turned his mind on the National Anthem issue and has dispensed with the usage of the Tamil version.

    You may say, no the Tamil version of the National Anthem is not officially discarded.

    But it is being made compulsory and when one Principal expressed his opposition to it he was shot dead.

    How this and many other incidents have put fears in the minds of the Tamils.

    Is this an elected govt which just watches, aides, abets in the crime that is happening in the North and the East.

    THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN MEETS THE EYE.

  224. 232. Mahesh:

    DO You want me talk about the robberies, kidnappings, murders happening in the North and East.

    THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN MEETS THE EYE.

    ———-

    There is no reason to say the same thing again and again. You are not the only one who says all these things and much more.

    I have taken this stand after considering everything that you have said. Hence I’m not going to change my point of view based on what you have listed — I hope you can understand at least that much.

    Even if we leave out what I believe and not, out of this, you haven’t had any luck engaging with Sinhalese b loggers “constructively”. That’s should tell you something– again if you can _understand_ at least that much.

  225. 215. Kalu Albert ,

    Dr.Kohona is like Mercenary he will so what the paymaster general askes He has ran away to Australia and made mone their then mahinda wanted ton do his dirty work he paid him to do that he is not bothered about Sinhala nation of tamils or Kalu Albert /Dudhy if you have money to pay for his wine and w you can dine with him.

  226. Mahesh,

    Yes, I also feel your efforts are not going to take you anywhere.. I mean efforts to make only sinhalese guilty while there’s a good part of atrocities committed by LTTE against sinhalese with the active & silent approval of tamils.

    Balance of scale is now rather equal, so let’s not talk about only one side like you many tamils still do. More you attack more the other person gets defensive and it’s extremely not beneficial for an open dialogue.

  227. 233. Navin

    Even if we leave out what I believe and not, out of this, you haven’t had any luck engaging with Sinhalese b loggers “constructively”. That’s should tell you something– again if you can _understand_ at least that much.

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    I didn’t find many Sinhalese bloggers talking constructively. Most of the Sinhalese posting here are talking about the atrocities committed by the LTTE for the past thirty years or so.

    No body wants to talk about the atrocities committed by the Sinhalese side.

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    235. Chinthaka

    My intention is not to tell that the Sinhalese only are guilty.

    The Sinhalese have never accepted atleast a vast majority of them have never accepted the problems of the Tamils and whatever accord was entered into were abrogated just like that.

    You say now the scales are even. What even it is. I don’t understand and I also do not want to even out with you in violence.

    Your Govt itself doesn’t show any intention to solve this problem politically.

    Tamils have also done a lot of wrong.

    IN THE SAME BREATH I WOULD SAY THAT THE TAMILS ARE MORE SINNED AGAINST THAN SINNERS.

  228. 236. Mahesh:

    I didn’t find many Sinhalese bloggers talking constructively. Most of the Sinhalese posting here are talking about the atrocities committed by the LTTE for the past thirty years or so.

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    If I was a Tamil, I would be blushed!

  229. 237. Navin

    If I was a Tamil, I would be blushed!

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    Navin before getting blushed please read your own postings for the last one year or so.

    Initially it was you who was posting here and there were not many who posted then,

    Comments by the Sinhalese, especially by you made me angry and I began posting here.

    You and many here have categorized the Tamils all over the world as terrorists.

    This sort of words had to be countered and I tried to do that.

    It was you Navin who spurred me to comment in this blog.

    Otherwise I would have gone silently.

  230. Some readers seem to compare these kind of atrocities with the ones committed on the JVP. I think there is a huge difference in the two.I remember when the army went on the rampage and started to kill the youth in the south, the insurgency just died off overnight. Obviously they were killing the culprits. Some innocents may have been caught up in it but the vast majority would have been the JVP youth.. In the north and east of course whenever the armed forces went on the rampage the insurgency only intensified. that is because they were killing the innocent fellows, like these 5 boys in trincomalee. Then other boys would have thought, if we are just minding our own business and they are killing us, we might as well go join the LTTE and get trained to defend ourselves. Also many elederly people, children and bystanders have also been affected whereas in the southern insurgency youth were specifically targetted. Everytie innocent civilians were killed in the north and east the LTTE cadre were given new recruits.

    In the case of the JVP the army had good intelligence because it was right in their own territory, and informants would have given the names of the people involved. Where the north was concerned they were fighting in alien territory and the intelligence was poor probably and therefore they were taking out there frustartions on innocent youth and elderly civilians and children with no justification whatsoever. Compared to when fonseka and gota took over, previously the dicipline in the armed forces was poor(not as bad as the IPKF) and was largely responsible for this proctracted war that went on for 25 years.

  231. # 236 Mahesh,

    IN THE SAME BREATH I WOULD SAY THAT THE TAMILS ARE MORE SINNED AGAINST THAN SINNERS.

    When you take the numbers, I mean the actual tamil representation in the country which is 12% as per latest consensus, Tamils’ SINS are way to higher if not even. But still we, sinhalese do not like to debit all those sins to Tamils’ account as they were done by the teorrirst outfit called LTTE. That’s why I said, let’s assume it is atleast even, to forget yesterday and look for the future.

    You know what, Terrorists and terrorists supporters normally need to be rehabilitated like it is done to drug addicts and other anti social activists. Why do you think it is done? I mean not all tamils, but there’s a substantial portion in tamil society need that rehabilitation process. If they were normal people like any other why do they need a rehabilitation? Let’s don’t forget that there is a vast majority still in the tamil diaspora who don’t get that rehabilitation which they badly need.

  232. 240. Chinthaka

    Tell me who initiated the sinhala only act. Who abrogated the bc and dc pact, who burnt the jaffna library, who initiated the 1956 58 violence etc. LTTE and VP were not born then. Dont forget the disenfranchisement, the letter Sri written in the buses, etc.

    ———————————————-

    You know what, Terrorists and terrorists supporters normally need to be rehabilitated like it is done to drug addicts and other anti social activists. Why do you think it is done? I mean not all tamils, but there’s a substantial portion in tamil society need that rehabilitation process

    ———————

    So you mean to say that substantial portion of the tamils are terrorists or terrorist supporters.

    The mentality that you people display is dangerous. Why do you always talk about the violence for the last 30 years only.

    Why are you silent about the violence of the pre LTTE era.

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  233. # 241 Mahesh,

    Whatever said & done by corrupt-racist minded sinhalese politicians with the rival of same type tamil politicians too never deserved what LTTE did to this country. LTTE thought of frightening the civilians and the state of this country by reacting several times of the actions, but we all know they didn’t succeed finally.

    Yes, there’s a substantial portion in your community (not a majority though) that still think LTTE’s version of tamil grievences are real grievences. Mate let’s get real. If you tamils had to face injustices in SL soil “just because you were tamils”, then most of them are not existing todate. Most the misery your community is in today is totally the baby of LTTE, your one time saviour.

    What your people in SL need is not the darn autonomy that your overseas counterparts are preaching, but food, sheltor, health and education. Please get out of the LTTE version of all these, SL people never went thro’ what they went thro’ to entertain LTTE and its allies again. You people are contineously rejecting sinhalese’ humble request to abandon LTTE politics cos you don’t know the meaning of being humble.

  234. 242. Chinthaka

    Your posting only tells that you Sinhalese will only talk about the atrocities of the LTTE but not the atrocities of the Sinhalese and the Sri Lankan govt.

    If we don’t understand your meaning for the word humble it is only because it is not coming from your heart.

    There is a book released in the media, that book is an old book. It lists some 160 instances of killing by the Sinhalese mobs and the security forces.

    That was an old book. I don’t know whether its sequel is available.

  235. #242-chinthaka

    [What your people in SL need is not the darn autonomy that your overseas counterparts are preaching, but food, sheltor, health and education. ]
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    mahesh is not a tamil.so its not his people. Since you have decided for the tamils what they need,why don’t you also explain to us why the TNA went with the following manifesto to the last election.
    1. Federalism
    2.merged north east
    3. self determination.

    They could have instead gone to the people with
    1. food
    2, shelter
    3. health and education.

    Do you consider the TNA as a overseas counterpart of the tamil people.

    You misjudge the depth of feeling of the people.I think the TNA may be better placed to have a feel of the peoples pulse more than you, don’t you think?

    Don’t blame always overseas people for everything. the tamils in srilanka are not morons. They can always tell the overseas tamils to forget about a political solution and concentrate on food and shelter. The choice is theirs really. If they do that TNA will have to ditch their manifesto and the overseas tamils will have to shut up.

  236. TNA went with that manifesto because TNA was the other side of LTTE coin. N/E people lived a long time that is long enough to have been brainwashed by LTTE and assimilated to the culture of LTTE, so they still believe TNA as they only knew that lot and are only left with that. EPDP may not be the ideal alternative for tamil politics because of their armed cadres bad reputation, so other than that all other moderate politicans have been killed by the LTTE leaving these ‘polkudu’ typed TNA.

    TNA can have enough manifesto and tamils can also approve that, but it doesn’t provide any guarantee that they’re going to get that, because it may not have the credibility, realism and the blessing of the rest of population in Sri Lanka.

    So, TNA is like “Loola nethi walata kanaya pandithaya”. Get the real leaders appointed before you talk about self determination. You cannot have anything with terrorist supporters like TNA. Until then SL govt will have to do a lot about upgrading the lives of tamil people that have been destroyed by the LTTE with the support of tamils themselves.

  237. # 243 Mahesh,

    With compared to the atrocities of LTTE, sinhalese or SL govts never did such against tamils. What happened during the war time the results of LTTE started war. It is LTTE which started the war and stubbornly stuck to it until they were compleletly annihilated in 2009.

    What I always believe is there were reasons for LTTE to start an arms struggle. But there were NO REASONS for them to stick to the war that long, other than the pure greed for power.

    Until tamils realise that truth I don’t think they will be satisfied with any as they live in a dream and it is really horrible enough to be awaken up from, to see the bitter truth caused by their onetime liberators.

  238. 245-chinthaka

    You cannot have anything with terrorist supporters like TNA.
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    The problem here is sinhalese can’t pick and choose the tamil leaders to deal with and tamils also can’t do the same. Tamils would dearly like to deal with someone like ranil and sinhalese would have loved to deal with a moderate like neelan tiruchelvam. Unfortunately he did not lie low till all this passed away and would have made a great tamil leader if he had done so and survived.

    According to our present parliamentary system you have to deal with those in the parliament regardless of who you would prefer to deal with.TNA has to deal with mahinda and mahinda has to deal with them whether they like it or not, because mahinda is the president and TNA has 14 members in the parliament. Also the TNA has got rid of its more radical ones like sivajilingam and others, so they don’t have hardliners putting a spoke in the wheel.. As for sampanthan and mavai senathirajah and suresh premechandran, they survived under the LTTE , unlike neelan tiruchelvam. That is the main thing. When a terrorist outfit is in control you have to use your brains and survive until they are gone, otherwise what are you going to do for the people one day when you just get packed up into a coffin. Lots of people will come and shed tears on your grave, but it does not help you or your people does it.

  239. 246. Chinthaka

    With compared to the atrocities of LTTE, sinhalese or SL govts never did such against tamils

    —————–

    May be you are right. But for us to understand the genuineness of the SL govt they should usher in a dignified atmosphere.

    The Sinhalese people and the leadership only want the Tamil leaders to be pimps like DD and Karuna.

    That is why they are allowed a free hand in the North and the East.

    May be VP foresaw these things happening and that is the reason he didn’t surrender.

    I only wish the high court case against the DD in the Madras High court is pursued to its logical conclusion and he is given due punishment.

    That will free the Tamils of one scourge in their flesh.

  240. # 247 Shankar,

    I really like your comment. That’s what needed honestly for a reconciliation between two ethnicities that lived with suspicion towards each other.

    I believe tamils were strongly misled during the past 30 yrs and even before by their politicians more than to the extent it happened to the sinhalese at the hands of their own. Because tamil politicians always tried planting tamil nationalism in the heads of the voters, which also might have provided an easy get away from their other duties to the people.

    So, these highly misled, misguided people in N/E badly need sometime to settle; Settle their own lives. They are not in position to decide what they really want politically when their stomachs are only half full. All they knew politics as only Tiger politics.

    Let me tell you a small story that tells the plight of tamils today. I know a very peaceful decent family of jaffna tamils who lived in jaffna under LTTE control for a while. They are not people who haven’t even touched a gun, I’m sure, but their vocabulary has been thorughly influenced by LTTE presence. These people who won’t kill even an ant purposely, when they speak use terms like “Must be shot”, “Should be shot dead”, or “dishum” (making the noise of a gun) to send the dessent for anything even in funny terms. I can’t believe how they have been used to seek the justice for anything by shooting, even though they don’t mean what they say. The whole family speak about shooting, even girls and such are the mindsets created by LTTE in these innocents. If these people who only lived there until about 1989 speak those stuff what do you think about the rest who lived their all lives in N/E with LTTE? Isn’t it terrible…??

  241. # 248 Mahesh,

    Why do you so much hate DD and Karuna? Did you do the same when they were militants or with VP?? That’s the million dollar question.

    DD and Karuna are none other than VP’s creations. You talk about political dignity when people in SL try to gather the pieces of their shattered lives. Why do you keep so-called dignity ahead of everything; that is the disaster of most inpractical, fantacy warriors’ mindset created by LTTE.

    No one has taken off you – tamils’ dignity. If you feel ashamed of or broken apart or stripped off, then that is due to the shock from high reliance kept on a terrorist outfit that you never thought would fail.

    Most tamils willingly or unwillingly threw all their hopes at LTTE because they were helpless. Now they cannot admit the destruction they allowed on their lives, to a cheap thug from VVT. That’s why some of you still try to capitalise something on LTTE’s foundation without it gone wasted.

    But I’m pretty sure, SL govt will never let you – tamils anything on that base, other than doing something to address ‘real’ tamil grievences existed historically. Real grievences means those undergone by only tamils due to they were tamils. I mean if there’s anything left for today.

  242. 250. Chinthaka

    Why do you so much hate DD and Karuna? Did you do the same when they were militants or with VP?? That’s the million dollar question.

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    DD and Karuna are Pimps, supplying women to the Sri Lankan army camps and also kidnapping people under the protection and the order of the high officials of the Govt.

    There was an article published to that effect in this blog. Please refer to that.

    LTTE may have kidnapped but they never supplied girls to the Army. Kidnapping is also wrong but that is why they are called the terrorists. While your govt uses the hands of DD and Karuna to do these things. .

    Karuna was an LTTE cadre but DD was not one.

    Karuna was trained to be fighter by the LTTE and he was not trained to be a pimp. He became a pimp in order to survive and prosper.

    Why do you love such pimps?

    When you hate a person like VP why should you not hate pimps like DD and Karuna.

    If they kidnapped persons in colombo among Sinhalese will you still love them.

    It is the duty of the State to protect its subjects. it should not let these kind of terrier’s amidst its subjects.

    Then there is no difference between it and a terrorist organization like LTTE.
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  243. # 251 Mahesh,

    “When you hate a person like VP why should you not hate pimps like DD and Karuna”.

    We first hate mass murderers like VP and socondly pimp. Cos the pimp did a good job in terms of getting rid of the mass murderer that we do not forget.

    BTW how come the best commander under VP became a pimp overnight? Is it becasue he left the murderuos LTTE?

    Can you prove what you say? I don’t think it happened in the scale you mention even it actually happened. Those are just Tamilnet propoganda.

  244. 251. Mahesh:

    LTTE may have kidnapped but they never supplied girls to the Army.

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    Phew, Hallelujah!

  245. #249-chinthaka

    [Because tamil politicians always tried planting tamil nationalism in the heads of the voters]
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    Who started to go on the nationalism path. SWRD in 1956 embarked on the sinhala bhuddhist nationalism path. Tamil politicians followed suit.After all anything can be copied in this world. When people retaliate you must always see who started it first. However retaliation should always be proportional.For example you don’t hit a man for insulting you. You could insult him back or like Lord Bhuddha’s advice forgive and move on. In this case I think SJV Chelvanayagam went a bit overboard with the vaddukodai resolution for seperation as it was not proportional to the insult. Sinhala leader made a mistake and tamil leader made a bigger mistake.

    Same for the violence too. Sinhala leaders perpetrated and encouraged violence against tamils. A small boy who was listening to the elders discussing these tales of violence such as priests being burned alive and small babies being thrown into boiling tar barrels, grew up into a monster and took it out on the sinhalese. Here too though i felt the the killing of innocent sinhalese civilians was completely unjustified and out of proportion, because two wrongs can never make a right.

    So when you throw mud at others you got to always see who started it first.At least now i hope sinhala leaders will not embark on the sinhala bhuddhist nationalism path and the violence against tamils to subjugate them path, because copycats are there everywhere. Recently i met a german woodworking machine manufacturer who was telling me the taiwanese are copying his product and selling it at half the price without even knowing what the various gadgets in it really are there for. When customers ask them they are clueless.

    Whatever the sinhalese do the tamils will just copy, not even realising what it will lead to.

  246. # 254 Shankar,

    “violence such as priests being burned alive and small babies being thrown into boiling tar barrels”
    ______________________________________________

    Are you sure you’re talking about Sri Lanka…?? We knew LTTE hacked and sliced sinhalese children in so-called border villages, but where & when did those you mentioned happen?

  247. I think Shankar is writing reality and facts. speaking to both sides in a balanced view.

    Many comments are biased towards the race. Only a person who is above these petty politics of race & religion can see the true picture.

    The past is bloody and the oppertunistic leaders have played the race card and cuased mayhem to the common man.

    All born in this island nation should be able to live freely as a human without fear or discrimination.
    the law and the government should protect all its citizens eqaually.

    Pointing fingers and slingging mud at each other about the past mistakes is not taking us anywhere.

    why should you defend what is wrong and unjust if all of us are humans? stand for the truth. Be bold to accept what is wrong and what is right.

    When both sides accept the faults and are willing to change and seek the correct path, then only we will see peace and posperity.

    sinhalese are afriad that tamils will start the terror tactics again and going overboard in security concerns.

    The tamils are unable to trust the sinhala leaders and the tamil supporters of the sinhala polity. As they are unable to forget the past and fear oppression.

    if enlightened buddists will not act or say things to hurt another person it will change the enviorenment in to a better co existence..

    the leaders today are interested in having a good time at the top at the expence of the poor and the common man. all political parties are waiting for the oppertunity to come to power and reap the benifits for themselves.

    Not a single political party or a politician is interested in putting country first ‘rata perata’ ..
    .look at the amount they spend for renting houses and buying cars at official expense… who pays?

    Can the media highlight these than harping on useless topics?

    some times I wonder what purpose many of the news item serve to uplift this nation or correct its path?

    Arn’t these crimes of corruption against humanity too?

  248. Tamils lived in SL and overseas have been thoroughly brainwashed for decades. Those in SL who had to live under LTTE obviously had no alternative while their counterparts in overseas had that for mere kick, as that drove them up with the feeling like they are supporting a match (Tamils had been deprived of all sports by LTTE, so the war was the only sport they knew for a long time giving the similar victorious feeling).

    Some may have no idea about what they actually lost because of LTTE. Please ask your elders who had better lives even under so-called oppressive sinhalese. If they knew their discussing of politics at homes would ever create a monster like VP, They would have never uttered a word. Because they actually had a curse born to destroy a good part of tamil youth in the name of liberation. What do you think about what VP did? Don’t you think he’s the cause for all these tamil youth lost their lives in vein. Isn’t he the reason of lots of tamil property and money got wasted.

    Mann… without a stone being thrown all your lives could have been much more better if there was no VP or LTTE among tamils. Racists lived everywhere else in the world due to then primitive world exist, are no more today. Look at UK and USA. There you had all these problems much to the worst. But not anymore. VP’s arms struggle did nothing in that sense other than further complicating the tamil intelligence.

  249. 255. Chinthaka | January 21st, 2011 at 11:26 pm
    # 254 Shankar,

    “violence such as priests being burned alive and small babies being thrown into boiling tar barrels”
    ______________________________________________

    [Are you sure you’re talking about Sri Lanka…?? ]
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    Pretty sure mate. Maybe you were too young to know about these things but all this could have been avoideded if the sinhalese treaded the true bhuddhist path instead of sinhala bhuddhist nationalism.

    I agree with TRN no purpose is served by delving into the past other than maybe learning from mistakes, but since you want to know i have to give it, but i don’t like to embarass sinhalese because i was boarded with true bhuddhists at one time,who won’t hurt even a fly. A few miscreants on both sides should not be allowed to tarnish the image of the entire community.Law and order is a governing responsibility and when it breaks down it is the politicians who are responsible for it.

    Here is an excerpt from T.Sabaratnam’s book on pirapaharan in chapter 1. It makes interesting reading and one of my favourites because the author’s writing style is so good and the book full of incidents that will put an MGR movie to shame. Be warned that when you start reading it you may not be able to put it down. I think the first half of the book till the IPKF came in is available on the internet. In the may 58 riots a priest was burned alive, and this is what he says

    [Since then, in June 1956 and May 1958, another serious factor, the safety and security of the Tamils was added as the fourth to the three already injuring Sinhala-Tamil concord. On 5 June 1956 an organized band of Sinhala hooligans, led by two government parliamentarians, attacked and humiliated about 250 Tamils who chose to stage a non-violent sit-down protest called satyagraha on the Galle Face Green near the then Parliament building. The crowd, thrilled with their success in quelling the Tamil protest, trailed the satyagrahis, who came from the eastern province, hooting and pelting stones, as they marched to the Fort railway station to board a Batticoloa-bound train. The crowd, that had swelled into a mob by then, attacked the Tamils in Colombo and on the following day another mob attacked the Tamils in Gal Oya, at a formerly Tamil village called Paddipalai, and chased all of them out of the area. The cleansing the Tamils from their traditional villages had begun.

    In May 1958 the attack was widespread and premeditated. It was aimed at weakening the hold the Jaffna Tamil trading community had on the Sri Lankan economy. The entire Tamil trading network in Southern Sri Lanka was attacked. Shops in the provincial towns were looted and burnt. Hindu temples were also not spared. Tamil border villages were uprooted and their occupants chased away making room for Sinhala encroachers.

    A large number of Tamil families was rendered refugees and the Bandaranaike government transported them under armed escort to the north and east where, they were told, they really belonged. The riots that injured Tamil pride had thus laid the foundation in the Tamil mind for the concept of a homeland where they could live in safety and with dignity.

    Velupillai, a district land officer, foresaw the impact of Sinhala colonization and the riots on the future of the Tamil race and discussed those matters at his evening chats. He kept repeating Chelvanayakam’s slogan: “the wall must stand to do the painting,” meaning that land must be protected if Tamil people are to survive as a distinct race.

    Pirapaharan’s initiation to politics is through these discussions. He listened intensely to what the elders discussed. He did not participate in them. That trained him to be a patient listener, a valuable asset and a trait of his character.

    Pirapaharan’s anger was natural when he listened to the story of the burning of the priest. “Why didn’t he hit back?” he asked. The priest and the Tamils should have fought back, he argued.

    The priest could not hit back. He had heard that morning that Sinhala mobs were gathering on the streets of Colombo and by noon they were looting and burning Tamil shops, Tamil-owned establishments and Tamil houses. He had also heard that hooligans had entered government offices, dragged out hiding Tamil officers and thrashed them.

    The priest was frightened when a crowd gathered at Panadura junction and marched threateningly towards the temple. He ran to his room and hid under his wooden bed. The shrieking crowd found the shivering priest, caught him by his hands and hair and dragged him outside the temple. It dowsed him with petrol brought from the nearby pumping station and set him alight. The priest writhed and the crowd yelled, chanting the slogan that that would teach the ‘parai themala’ (Tamil paraiahs) who demanded equal status for their language, Tamil, a proper lesson.

    The burning of the priest hurt Tamil Hindus greatly. It pained little Pirapaharan more, for he was brought up in a highly religious environment. His parents were descendants of families that built temples. His father Velupillai was the trustee of the Valvettithurai Vaitheeswaran Kovil, known as Valvai Sivan Kovil, the biggest of the three Hindu Temples in the harbour town of Valvettithurai. It was built by Pirapaharan’s ancestor, Thrumeniyar Venkatachalam. Pirapaharan’s ancestors had also assisted in the construction of the other two temples: Nediyakadu Pillayar Kovil and Vallai Muthumari Amman Kovil.

    Pirapaharan’s mother, Vallipuram Parvathypillai, was also from a temple building family, ‘methai veeddu’ Nagalingam family, of Point Pedro, another northern port. She was deeply religious, fasting and observing the numerous festivals. As trustee the father and as devotee the mother spent most of their time in temple work and Pirapaharan was constantly with them.

    Pirapaharan was naturally upset when he learnt about the burning of the priest. He has disclosed that to most of his interviewers. He told N. Ram, then of The Hindu, in mid 1986:
    Ours is a god-fearing society and people are religious-minded. The widespread feeling was: when a priest like him was burnt alive, why did we not have the capability to hit back. That was one atrocity that made people think deeply.”

    Earlier in 1984 he told Anita Prathap in Chennai that the burning of the priest had made him very angry and he repeated this sentiment in 1994 in his interview to Velicham, a Tamil magazine. Priests of any religion are venerable to the followers of that religion, he maintained and added that Sinhala Buddhists who burnt a Hindu priest alive should be made to repent.

    Aunt’s Burnt Face

    Pirapakaran’s reaction when he saw his aunt’s burnt face was more violent. The aunt visited them at their home in Alady Lane at Valvettithurai, nearly a year after the riots of May 1958. Her face and hands bore the scars of burning.

    “How did Aunty got burnt?” Pirapakaran asked his mother.

    She was burnt during the riots, his mother disclosed.

    Pirapakaran and his sisters, Jagatheeswari, the elder, and Vinothini, pleaded with the Aunty to relate the incident to them.

    “I was living with my husband and children in Colombo,” the aunt told the children and described the mob attack on her house. “We hid ourselves in the toilet. They set fire to it, too. Then we tried to escape and they caught my husband and clubbed him to death. I jumped over the rear wall, a fire ball. The children followed me. Neighbours, good Sinhala people, took me to the hospital. I am living like this, a memento of Sinhala brutality and kindness,” she said.

    The details the aunt gave about the cruel acts of the crowd made the two girls sullen and Pirapakaran boil. The girls shrieked when aunty told them how a gang tore an infant from a mother and flung it into melting tar. Pirapakaran fell silent. He was angry.

    Twenty- five years later, in 1984, Pirapaharan recalled to Anita Pradap, his feelings, thus:
    During the riots a Sinhala mob attacked her house in Colombo. The rioters set fire to the house and murdered her husband. She and her children escaped with severe burn injuries. I was deeply shocked when I saw the scars on her body. I also heard stories of how young babies were roasted alive in boiling tar. When I heard such stories of cruelty I felt a deep sense of sympathy and love for my people. A great passion overwhelmed me to redeem my people from this racist system. I strongly felt that armed struggle was the only way to confront a system which employs armed might against unarmed, innocent people.
    Pirapaharan told his aunt that Tamils should hit back and he reasoned: “If they know that we would hit back, they will not do such things.”]

  250. 258. shankar:

    Pirapaharan told his aunt that Tamils should hit back and he reasoned: “If they know that we would hit back, they will not do such things

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    People VP killed were not the ones who committed the crimes. For that he truly deserves to have had his head blown off into pieces and more for many many lives to come, time and again for eternity.

    I’m sure Mahesh will have a reply for this as well for he has a rebuttal for all and always. Though, he questions everyone he learns not from anyone. Alas who said one’s rebuttal should address the question when you have an N-button as fail safe. A sane person would wonder how far up one has to have his brain stuck up his ass to parade colossal arrogance in all its glory stupid. I pity him.

  251. Shanker,

    Thank u for highlighting the ‘make of a monster VP’
    However I will not justify his behaviour or have empathy on the violent tamil struggle.

    Even today if the tamils fail to see the wrong path VP & LTTE explored, tamils will never find liberty or freedom!

    In the same way for sinhala opperunistic political leaders who conducted programs in 1958 & 1983.. if these are repeated or if these are justified by the sinhalese, there will never ever be room for permenant peace or posperity.

    One more fact i couldn’t highlight in my previous comment, adding to your comment on why JVP failed their insurgency but the northern youth continued :

    The LTTe had external support form India & tamil diaspora. But the JVP had no outside help even from their communist counter parts overseas… in 1971 the communists countries backed the Sirima’s government to crush the uprising.

    The international support helped the LTTE terror to last longer than it should have.
    Remember in 1989 when the war was at its ultimatum surrounding VP & the remnants, india Air dropped food … and then forced Indo -Lanka accord on us.

    there are so many external factors which made LTTE prosper and destroy this land and the tamils as a whole.

    Many have short memories when commenting one sided openion.

    I was not born in 1958 but I learned for the first time the horro of the riots after reading your comment.

    I can remeber my grandmother recalling that my grandfather was a civil servant in Jaffna in 1958 but he never came home(colombo), although the tensions were high. He was very fluent in tamil and darked skinned too, no one would ‘ve thought he’s a sinhalese. He was well respected in Jaffna and served there for long years.

    I wish I had his wisdom and accumen in dealing with all communities. Especially learning the Tamil language fluently.

    The revenge and bitterness that gone overboard in both our communities is very pathetic. Can we see beyoung our horizons and see a better tommorrow?

  252. 258. shankar

    You were quoting from Sabaratnam.

    During the college days I used to frequent the library and read all the newspapers.

    I used to keep myself abreast of all the facts about various issues.

    As the days went by I forgot those incidents.

    When I came into this blog, initially you and navin were commenting a lot.

    With the Navin’s comment going unanswered or not answered properly.

    Naturally Navin’s comments made me angry. He was painting all the Tamils with a single brush.

    Not only him many among the Sinhalese would say Tamils = Terrorists and Terrorists = Tamils.

    I was angry with this kind of attacks on the Tamils.

    I had to brush up my mind with the facts during the days of the VP.

    Sabaratnam had done a good job in compiling all those facts in a book form and put it free of cost for everybody to access it.

    He did a good job to his community.

    Long live him and his family.

    As you said when you pick up the book Pirabaharan it is un put downable for his writing style and content etc.

    I was able to recollect all the events mentioned in that book.

    Yes they happened and I knew when those things happened.

    I might have forgotten them later. But they are facts.

    Those facts made me angry and then I replied here in this blog.

    My anger is the anger of a common man in Tamil Nadu.

    I only want to read the sequel of this book, again written by Sabaratnam.

    As I read each Chapter my anger grew.

    Needless to say I completed the entire book in continuous stretches in a few days.

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    259. Navin

    I’m sure Mahesh will have a reply for this as well for he has a rebuttal for all and always. Though, he questions everyone he learns not from anyone. Alas who said one’s rebuttal should address the question when you have an N-button as fail safe. A sane person would wonder how far up one has to have his brain stuck up his ass to parade colossal arrogance in all its glory stupid. I pity him.

    ——————————–

    Navin when have you taken to writing comically. You are showing some promise in this.

    You are a multi faceted person. Keep it up.

    Do cultivate this habit of writing comically. I do enjoy it.

    All said and done. I do love you for your comments here.

    It is people like you who make this blog worth visiting.

    I will miss you when you do not come here.

    Please come along with your friends like Diyasena, (we have not heard from him for some time) Ranjan, Chintaka, that ever green comedian samarasekara, Wijayapala and others.

    Thank you friends.

  253. # 258 Shankar,

    “I also heard stories of how young babies were roasted alive in boiling tar”.

    This is something ever horrible I heard other than LTTE hacking sinhalese children. While two wrongs cannot become right, IF these stories heard were true, we – sinhalese can no way expect any better than what VP did. IF this ‘heard story’ is correct I first would like apologise all my tamil collegues of that and it is not enough I believe.

    I know these might be quite common when come to Hindu-Muslim riots in India, but I had never thought of something of that calibre in SL. The most important thing is somebody need to verify these things’ occurence as their could be lots of rumours otheriwse that can justify anything afterwards. I never heard anything of that sort even in 1983 which made the worst riots of all.

    Oh my god, what else we can expect from LTTE IF these things actually happened. If I was VP I would spend that time he spent on carrying out a war at random sinhalese, to find out the actual perpertrators who commited that crime and execute them in the similar fashion. Apologies for letting my emotions out, but this is too much that someone can bear with. I think all these things led to the tamils arms stuggle should be verified and let known to all sinhalese without exagerration in creating the understanding between the two races.

    I still can’t believe something of that nature happened in south. What was the reason for those criminals to act in that way without any provocation? Did we have cannibles in colombo in 1958 when we still don’t find that types amidst of the claims that the society is much worse compared to before? Is this the same society which was weeping for decades on Premawathi Manamperi incident? Sorry guys, I actually thought VP was just another attention seeking SOB.

  254. 262. Chinthaka

    I have also seen pictures of the bodies of the Tamils ripped open with their heart, lungs, intestine visible.

    Not one but many such pictures of many young people were killed in such grotesque manner in the Sri Lankan Tamils literature here in Madras.

    You can now say you want to investigate them, when the body of the evidence is not available.

    Read that article Pirabaharan in full, if you can stomach it.

    It is full of historical facts.

    I know the incidents as they happened as I was following the Sri Lankan issue from those days.

    In the later stage after the assassination of the Rajiv Gandhi we lost interest in the issue.

    But the facts written in the book are true.

  255. chinthka, when were you born?

    you need to read lot more before commenting.

    Any way appriciate your appology and exceptance of sinhalese faults. Good start. Bravo!!

  256. Mahesh & TRN,

    In a time like 1958 to happen something like this, I can’t imagine whether we had real beasts living in the Colombo society.

    I know I can’t ask for investigations now, but why those who had written many injustices happened to tamils before, have never written these incidents that you can make the sinhalese guilty straight away? Why we had to wait to hear that from Prabhakaran’s interview and that was too thro’ a third party experience ‘heard’?

    Was it SWRD’s killing by a monk led the 1958 riots or what? Who was in power while these things happened?

    Let me explain something if you’re mistaken. I’m really broken by hearing these incidents that is said to have happened in 1958. I also hate for what happened in 1983. But I don’t have the same attitude towards other incidents such as 2009 that you’re trying to get attention everywhere.

    Killing pure innocents like they worst did in 1958 or 1983 afterwards are totally different to terrorists supporters (95% of them) getting killed in a war in 2009 after repeated requests were sent to abandon LTTE and join the Armed forces area.

    Therefore you – tamils’ credibility in those incident reportings are highly questionable leading me to ask, what actually cause that kind of killings to the hindu priest or child got thrown to the barrel of tar..?? Are you sure you guys never gave us the examples first having learnt from your Indian counterparts..???

    Don’t forget it was Amirthalingam’s wife who wanted slippers made of sinhalese skin, not a single man or woman in south had the same attitude towards tamils.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    The notion of making slippers out of the skins of people from another race was first introduced into Sri Lankan political discourse by KMP Rajaratna who represented Welimada in Parliament from 1956 to 1965. He was first elected on the MEP ticket in 1956 and later formed his own party Jathika Vimukthi Peramuna. He and his wife Kusuma who represented Uva-Paranagama constituency were the only two MP’s from that JVP

    KMP was the most notorious Sinhala racist MP of his time and well-known for his provocative racist comments.It was he who first declared that he would make slippers out of Tamil skins

  257. Thanks DBSJ. Yes, I’ve heard of Rajaratne, the racist, but never knew much of his part in terms of deviding sinhalese and tamils. I mean he must have had a main part done, but I know v little about this b….. MP cos no one had written about him lately.

    Can you please give us a brief description of him and his notorious contribution to where we are today? It looks like most of the articles published today don’t speak about the real culprits and the atrocities they commited.

    OMG, it looks like all the sins have been first commited by sinhalese.. Till today I was so much annoyed with Mrs. Amirthalingam for her degrading talks about Sinhalese as I knew that too did a good part in 1983 riots in the case of offending sinhalese.. Look what we’re listening to now. Yes, Rajaratne was somebody I knew not a good person, but we really should know more about these criminals and their actions. Thanks.

  258. We’ve really become monsters, haven’t we? The article is about the killing of five -not one but five, and two critically injured- human beings and halfway down the comments most of the people seem to have forgotten that.

    Instead, we have people sniping at each other with unwanted personal remarks. And a cricket match with different people trying to mark up the most killings on the two opposite score cards. And Buddhism gets dragged in from…….WHERE????..and gets trampled upon in the process.

    We have become monsters with blunted feelings and little sensitivity. Gone are the days when we would mourn for the passing of a single human being. Now death fails to faze us and we watch with muted feelings, distancing ourselves from the incident, disclaiming any responsibility. So would any nation after such a struggle, one would argue. But there is a choice in all things and it is our choices that brought us here. And it is our choices now that will determine our future path during this window of opportunity, while there is still time.

    We cannot go forth without justice. By this I mean justice to everyone and that can be achieved by proper implementation of the rule of law. What we have now is just the letters and a lot of hot air, and a very conscious fear of the void that exists. Where we go from here, everybody should have dignity. To be themselves. And acknowledge that everyone has a right to it, not just oneself. And tolerance is the wrong word – respect is what is needed and tolerance comes without effort.

    Otherwise, we would be as we are now, divided, cowed, suppressed and oppressed, lied upon, fed hatred, blinded, and led up the garden path by two-bit politicians.

    And the window is closing.

    I feel for the families that faced this fate. But, people, do not go gentle into this silent night. Demand justice.

  259. #266-chinthaka

    KMP Rajaratna was a notorious character indeed. Though SWRD is considered the father of this ethnic conflict Rajaratna and the bhuddhist clergy was the main cause for him not to come to some compromise with chelvanayagam.

    When the 250 satyagrahis went to galle face to protest it was rajaratne who organised the hooligans to beat them up. I believe DBSJ’s uncle also had his ear bitten off. The satyagrahis must have felt like rottweilers and pit bulls have been unleashed on them.I believe this was the time he said he will make slippers out of tamil skins. If mrs.amirthalingam also said this subsequently then it confirms my theory that tamils will foolishly copy the sinhalese. It is like small brother watching what big bro does and following suit. However i dislike that woman and her types who with their indiciplined tongue and uncultured ways contributed vastly to the carnage unleashed on this poor nation.Two wrongs can never make a right, and if the sinhalese can’t behave properly at least the tamils should,and hopefully big bro will follow the small bro’s footsteps.

    KMP rajaratna was a primary cause for this conflict, not only due to beating up people in a peaceful protest , but also scuttling any compromise with the tamils on the language issue.After the enactment of the sinhala only act,SWRD wanted to bring in a law for tamil to be used in predominantly tamil areas, but rajaratna threatened to fast to death and SWRD the spineless character backed off. He was not a real leader, but being led by others. Can you imagine mahinda backing off on some issue just because wimal or some other clowns say they will fast to death. At least now we know we have a real leader,whatever his other faults may be. Convincing him to do something is the real problem.If the bhuddhist clergy try to be the real rulers of the country, what happened in myanmar will happen to them.

    Again when SWRD and chelvanyagam entered into a pact to have regional councils in the north and east rajaratna and the bhudhist clergy scuttled it. After that also SWRD who was a intelligent chap who could forsee what was coming was contemplating some moves to soothe the ruffled feelings of the tamils , i think it leaked out and he was assasinated.

  260. 268. shankar:

    The times have changed. If anyone says this kind of racist nonsense today, they will get shunned by the people immediately.

  261. # 268 Shankar,

    Thanks for the message. I think we should talk about all these issues in the “Tamil Nationalism” the latest article, as we’re going totally different from the topic here like # 267 gmat pointed out.

  262. This incident sad as it is is just a small fraction of what happened and is still happening to the tamil community in the north.
    One famous incident was the overnight erection of a Buddha statue in Trino some years ago.
    When Hindu residents woke up in the morning to see it in the Town, with armed guards standing next to it. They organised a mass protest. I dont know how many people participated in the protest.
    But i know a couple of people who lived in Trinco at the time and described the following nightmare.
    They say upwards of 20 of the main people in the protest were kidnapped and were never seen again. The protest leader was shot dead in broad daylight on the street. Dead bodies of several of the main protestors were found on the beach. But the rest were never seen again
    And this was a totally peaceful protest keep in mind.
    As for reconciliation. There will never be any until Sinhalese accept that Hindu religion existed in Sri Lanka before Buddhism. As long as they keep playing mindgames on this issue, the division will persist.

  263. Proof is in the pudding.
    Everyday in the news they show Sinhalese protests all over the Island regarding various issues.
    You will never see any tamil mass protests against the govt.
    Even though they have 10x more reasons to be protesting than the Sinhalese on the streets.
    They know from past experience what will happen.
    Unwritten law of this fascist nazi nation

  264. 271 & 271 Jega,

    u have myopia…tamils have to change their belives that N&E is their inheritance.
    what’s wrong if a budha statue is errected in Trinco? What r the tamil hardcore hindu’s are afraid of? that budda will become alive and start preaching damma & all hindus will be converted to buddism?

    I can’t understand the myopic mindset of tamil nationalism. Learn to live in a pluraristic society than living in your own bubble dreams of tamil nationalism.

    You people are digging your own graves. Stop blaming sinhala buddists and correct your mistakes… otherwise get bashed by all other communities in SL for your arrogance.

    There are many buddha staues errected in predominant christian and muslim areas but we don’t mind. Only the tamil nationalists can’t tolerate these.

  265. Here is an excerpt of an interview given by the dad of one of the poor lads killed.

    A translation of the interview given in Tamil to the BBC Tamil Service Saturday (1/29/2011) follows:

    BBC: What is the objective of the case filed in US?

    Dr Kasippillai Manoharan
    Dr. Manoharan: Sri Lanka Government has not investigated my son’s killing; it has failed to serve justice to us. While I don’t have any personal animosity against Sri Lanka’s President, he was the head of the State when my son was killed. He was the Commander-in-Chief for the armed forces who we believe killed our son.

    BBC: What is your main complaint in the pleading?
    Dr. Manoharan: We filed the civil case to seek a judgment on the murder of our son. We have been cheated repeatedly by the Sri Lankan authorities responsible for investigating the killing. First Commission of Inquiries (CoI) was formed by Colombo to investigate 15 different cases of human rights violations, including the Trincomalee killing of 5 students. The International Group that was monitoring the Commission quit in mid-stream accusing the CoI of conflict of interest and failing in its mandate. Now Sri Lanka has appointed the LLRC (Lesson Learnt and Reconciliation Commission). I have no faith in this new commission and have not given evidence before it. The case in US was triggered by these setbacks.

    TAG Report: Trincomalee executions
    BBC: What is status of the criminal proceedings in Sri Lanka?
    Dr. Manoharan: Every month during the last five years, the Court calls for hearings on my son’s case, and postpones it for the following month citing that investigations have not been completed by the Sri Lanka police. In several cases Sri Lanka’s President has taken initiative to move the case forward. In my son’s case, I am absolutely certain Mr Rajapakse knows who the killers are. But he is hesitant to publicly admit his knowlege as he is reluctant to incriminate Sri Lanka security forces in the extra-judicial killings.

    Post-Trinco-massacre photo album
    BBC: What redress are you seeking in the US case?
    Dr. Manoharan: Since this is a civil case, we are seeking damages. But the case will also determine who the guilty parties are.

  266. #273-TRN

    what’s wrong if a budha statue is errected in Trinco? What r the tamil hardcore hindu’s are afraid of? that budda will become alive and start preaching damma & all hindus will be converted to buddism?
    ———————————————————-
    good one. Agree with you totally. Infact i wish i was at least taught the bare essence of Lord Bhuddha’s teachings when i was a child. It might have helped me to start thinking about life itself as a seperate aspect to god. That is why i believe bhuddhism and hinduism complement each other like bread and butter. For a better society Hindus and bhuddhist should at least try to practice as much as possible the bare essentials of Lord Bhuddha’s teachings and both should go to kovils too.

    Anyway better late than never for me at least.

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