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Decline of Tamil representation outside the North and East

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By D.B.S. Jeyaraj

Whenever demands or proposals are put forward to devolve more powers so that the Tamil and Muslim people of the Northern and Eastern Provinces could have a greater role in administering their areas of historic habitation one of the standard responses is to point out that more Tamils and Muslims live outside those two provinces.

It is also an incontrovertible fact that the greater part of Tamils of recent Indian origin described generally as Up Country Tamils or Plantation Tamils or Hill Country Tamils reside in the seven Sinhala majority provinces.

It is also pointed out ad nauseam that there is no necessity for a separate State or devolutionary unit in the North and East when so many Tamils are living in peace, prosperity and harmony with their Sinhala brothers and sisters in provinces outside the North-east.

The crucial question however is whether these Tamils living outside the Northern and Eastern provinces enjoy political representation in Parliament and Provincial councils corresponding to their numerical strength in the seven “southern” provinces.

The recently concluded Parliamentary elections has once again drawn attention to this issue of equitable Tamil and Muslim representation. This column will focus on the question of Tamil representation for now and hopefully will examine the Muslim aspect in a future article.

The stark reality of General Elections 2010 is the decline of Tamil political representation outside the North and East. This drop is particularly striking when compared to the results of the previous Parliamentary poll in 2004.

Thondaman

The premier political organization of the Plantation Tamils, the Ceylon Workers Congress (CWC) led by Arumugan Thondaman got eight seats in 2004. The CWC or “Ilangai Thozhilaalar Kaangirass” contested in association with the United National Party (UNP) but crossed over to the ruling United Peoples Freedom Alliance (UPFA) Government later.

The CWC got three seats in the Tamil-majority Nuwara-Eliya district with Thondaman, Muthu Sivalingam and Jegatheeswaran getting elected. It got two seats in Badulla district with Vadivel Suresh and Satchithanandan winning.

The CWC also fielded a Muslim candidate Faizer Mustapha who got elected in Kandy district. In addition veteran Politician MS Sellasamy and V. Puthirasigamany were appointed as CWC National list MP’s.

This CWC tally however began rapidly decreasing. Vadivel Suresh and then Faizer Mustapha joined government ranks. Later the CWC itself quit the UNP and joined the Govt. Subsequently Puthirasigamani quit the CWC and remained as an independent in the govt.

During the tail- end of last year Sellasamy and Satchithanandan also quit CWC and went over to the opposition.Thus the CWC Parliamentary strength had dwindled from eight to three at the time of dissolution.

Chandrasekharan

The second largest Party representing Up Country Tamils is the Malaiaha Makkal Munnani (Up-Country Peoples Front). Its charismatic founder-leader Periyasamy Chandrasekharan passed away on January 1st this year.

In 2004 the Up-Country Peoples Front (UCPF) contested along with the UNP but fielded a separate list in Nuwara-Eliya district. Chandrasekharan was the solitary MP to be elected but the UCPF got a national list slot when Radhakrishnan from Colombo was appointed.

Subsequently the UCPF also joined the Government. After Chandrasekharan’s demise the next on the UCPF list Arulsamy was deemed to have been elected as MP. But by then Arulsamy had quit the party and formed a new one.

Mano Ganesan was another MP to be elected on the UNP ticket in 2004. He won from Colombo district. Ganesan’s party was known then as Western Peoples Front. Later it was changed to Democratic Peoples Front (DPF) or “Jananaayaga Makkal Munnani”.

A Tamil of Jaffna origin was also elected from Colombo district in 2004. He was none other than the controversial Thiyagarajah Maheswaran who had won from the UNP in Jaffna in 2000 and 2001. Maheswaran had moved to Colombo in 2004 to avoid friction with the LTTE sponsored TNA and created history by being the first Tamil of Sri Lankan origin to win in Colombo after Independence. He was shot dead in Colombo on January 1st 2008.

There was also Lakshman Kadirgamar appointed on the national list of UPFA. Though Kadirgamar regarded himself abouve ethnic origin the fact remained that he was indeed a Sri Lankan whose political ambition transcended the Northern and eastern provinces.

Another Tamil MP was Ramalingam Chandrasekharan of the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP). This well-known activist from the plantation proletariat was appointed a national list MP.

Fourteen MP’s

It could be seen therefore that Ten Tamil MP’s from the CWC,UCPF and DPF along with three Tamils from the UNP, UPFA and JVP took their seats in Parliament in 2004. There was also the Muslim MP from CWC making up a grand total of fourteen.

Compared to that figure the 2010 Parliamentary election results have been rather disappointing. The number of Tamil MP’s elected or appointed from outside the North and East has decreased to nine.

These include four from the CWC (three elected in Nuwara-Eliya and one appointed on the national list) three elected on the UNF list (two in Uwara – Eliya and one in Colombo) and two appointed from Colombo on the UNP national list.

Arguably the Tamil National Alliance (TNA) national list MP could also be classified as being from outside the North – East. The well-known lawyer MA Sumanthiran appointed by the TNA was born and bred in Colombo though his parents are of Jaffna origin.

The CWC that had eight seats in 2004 has been halved in 2010. Three were elected from the Nuwara – Eliya district. CWC leader Arumugam Thondaman got the highest number of preferences with 60,997. The other two Tamils from the CWC were Velsamy Rathakrishnan and Perumal Rajadurai.

Rajadurai

Rathakrishnan who got 54,083 preferences had been for a long time provincial minister of Education in the Central Provincial council. Perumal Rajadurai who got 49,228 is a leading lawyer and Rotary club president from Nuara – Eliya.

Rajadurai is an inspiring success story for the deprived plantation youth. He was born into an estate worker family in Rockland estate in Udapussellawa in the Walapone electoral division. He rose up from humble origins through hard work and passed out as a lawyer in the nineties of the previous century.

Of the three CWC sitting MP’s from Nuwara Eliya district only Thondaman contested again. Muthu Sivalingam and Jegatheeswaran did not enter the fray but were placed on the national list. Though the CWC expected both to be nominated only one, Sivalingam became national list MP.

Apart from the four CWC Parliamentarians all the other Tamil MP’s are from the UNF/UNP. In Nuwara-Eliya two other Tamils were elected from the United National Front. They were Pazhani Digambaram with 39, 490 and Jeyaratnam Sri Renga with 33,948 preferences.

P. Digamparam a prominent businessman and industrialist is also the leader of “Thozhilaalar Thesiya Sangam” or National Union of Workers (NUW). The NUW was pioneered by the great VK Vellaiyan and CV Velupillai who broke away from the CWC in the sixties of the last century.

Digamparam and the NUW deputy-leader Mailvaganam Uthayakumar were members of the Provincial Council for Central Province. Both had contested for Parliament and conducted their election campaigns in a synchronised manner. Both were expected to win but Uthayakumar with 30,828 votes failed to get in.

Sri Renga

The other Tamil MP elected on the UNF ticket from the district is the well-known Tamil media personality Jeyaratnam Sri Renga who heads a political party “pirajaigal Munnani” (Citizens Front). Renga is of Jaffna origin and was based in Colombo.

Yet he has managed to garner adequate Plantation Tamil votes and win in Nuwara-Eliya. Renga due to his “Minnal” (Lightning) TV show had become popular with Up Country Tamil youths.

Renga had grilled Up Country Tamil politicians in his TV programme and spotlighted the problems of the plantation Tamils. He had also conducted live events in Up Country towns where political leaders would be bombarded with questions about travails of Up Country Tamils.

As a result of these media hype Sri Renga had become some sort of “hero” to the Up Country masses. Such is the power of the medium. The educated Up Country Tamil youths who at one time flocked around P Chandrasekharan had now been attracted to Renga.

Notables

Among notables who failed to win in Nuwara-Eliya were former deputy – minister and leader of the “Malaiyahath Thesiya Thozhilalar Sangam” (Up-Country National workers union) general- secretary V.Puthirasigamani. He got only 2896 preferences.He contested under the betel symbol.

Another who contested under the betel symbol and lost was Santhanam Arulsamy.He had contested in 2004 on the UCPF list and come second to Chandrasekharan. He then split from the party and formed “Thozhilalar Viduthalai Munnani” (Workers Liberation Front).

He later contested Central provincial council elections successfully and became a provincial minister. Though he was out of the UCPF Arulsamy was declared as MP after Chandrasekharan’s death.Arulsamy was tipped to do well at the 2010 hustings but got only 5855 votes.

Among notables who contested under the Elephant symbol and lost in Nuwara – Eliya were Subbiah Sathasivam and Letchumanan Bharathidasan. Sathasivam a former CWC stalwart and MP had later split and formed “Ilankai Thozhilalar Ikkiya Munnani” (Ceylon Workers United Front).

He had contested the Central Province Council and won. After being with the UPFA govt for several years Sathasivam crossed over to the opposition last year. Sathasivam got 24,852 preference votes.

Bharathidasan was Chandrsekharan’s deputy in the UCPF and was deputy chairman of the Talawakelle-Lindula urban council. Afte Chandrasekharan’s demise Bharathidasan joined the Mano Ganesan led DPF with a large number of UCPF activists.

He was placed on the UNF list for Nuwara-Eliya as the DPF nominee. Bharathidasan was expected to do very well but got only 7705 preference votes.

Nuwara-Eliya

Of the MP’s elected from Nuwara-Eliya only Arumugan was an “old- timer” having contested successfully since 1994. All the others are first-timers to Parliament. Five of the seven MP’s from Nuwara-Eliya are Tamils. In 2004 four were Tamils.

This “rise” in Nuwara-Eliya was not reflected in other districts. Badulla district with 116,000 estimated Tamil voters had returned two MP’s from the CWC in 2004. This time there were none.

Kandy district with 85,000 Tamil voters also did not return a Tamil MP despite the strenuous efforts of Mano Ganesan.Other districts like Matale, Kegalle and Ratnapura also did not return a single Tamil MP.

In Colombo The DPF provincial councillor from the Western Province Praba Ganesan got elected as MP with 42,851 preferences. His colleague N. Kumaraguruparan failed to make it with 34,205.

Two other MP’s were appointed from Colombo as national list MP’s by the UNP.

One was the UNP treasurer and long-standing Prty member DM Swaminathan. This respected lawyer is a scion of the Sir Ponnambalam Ramanathan-Arunachalam family and was made MP to represent Colombo Tamils of Sri Lankan origin.

The other UNP national list Tamil MP was Ramiah Yogarajan. R. Yogarajan had represented Colombo district in 1994-2000 as a CWC Mp. He had also served as national ist MP later. Yogarajan had quit the CWC last year and joined the UNP. He was appointed by the party as MP to represent the Colombo Tamils of Indian origin.

National List

The decline in Tamil representation has been a crucial concern for the Tamil political parties. Most Tamil parties in the South had contested under the Elephant or betel symbols. There had been pre-poll arrangements about extra nominations through the national lists. These pledges were not honoured fully after the polls.

This has caused much bickering and dissension leading to fractures in political alliances.

The CWC was promised two national list seats but only one was given. Though unhappy Arumugan Thondaman has not chosen to create a row over it and adopts a wait and see attitude.Even Wimal Weerawansa and Jathika Hela Urumaya (JHU) are reportedly unhappy over breached promises about national list nominations.

In the case of the UNF, Mangala Samaraweera of SLFP (M) was also not given the national list MP seat promised. He too remains quiet.

But not so the DPF and NUW. Both Mano Ganesan and P. Digamparam have pressed the UNP to deliver on the national list MP’s. When refused both have opted to pull out of the UNF.

P. Digamparam stated in Parliament that the NUW was displeased with the UNP over being denied the national list seat promised and pledged support to the UPFA govt from opposition ranks. The NUW was angry over Ranil Wickremasinghe failing to appoint NUW secretary Thilakraj as promised earlier.

In the case of the DPF the matter was more complicated. The DPF expected a national list seat as arranged earlier. It was to be given to either Mano Ganesan who had lost in Kandy or Kumaraguruparan who lost in Colombo. The UNP however had defaulted on its promise and tried to explain it away by invoking the party decision of not appointing defeated candidates.

Praba Ganesan the DPF National organizer and newly elected MP was indignant in speaking to the media. He warned the UNP leader that his party would react if denied a national list MP seat as promised. Praba Ganesan who is the younger brother of Mano told the BBC Tamil service that discussions were currently on about joining the government.

Mano Ganesan

When this column contacted Mano Ganesan the DPF leader was cautious about future moves. He said that some talks with government leaders and DPF personalities were going on in a “private,unofficial” capacity. Mano Ganesan said that he himself had not participated in any of these talks.

Mano G also said that the party politbureau would meet over the week-end and finalise matters. While the pull-out from the UNF was certain the dilemma was about functioning separately or teaming up with the UPFA government.

The DPF was expected to conduct a media briefing on April 26th or 27th to announce its decision.

Ganesan seemed very hurt and angry over the alleged UNP “betrayal”. According to him the DPF, SLMC, SLFP (M) and UNP were the co-founders of the UNF. It was decided then that each of the founders would definitely get a minimum of one national list seat. Thereafter other seats would be allocated on the basis of votes received by each party.

Mano Ganesan had contested on the UNP ticket in 2001 and 2004 and won. Unlike the CWC or UCPF he had not deserted the UNP folds after winning. He had stood shoulder to shoulder with Wickremasinghe through thick and thin.

The sustained campaign against human rights violations by the state like the notorious “white van disappearances” had been spearheaded by him amidst great danger.

Had Mano Ganesan contested in Colombo it would have been a virtual cakewalk for him. Instead he chose to contest in Kandy district against tremendous odds.This was due to two reasons. One was to mount an effective campaign and ensure the long –denied Tamil representation from the district. The second reason was due to a request made by the UNP hierarchy.

Apparently Ganesan was relying on the promised national list seat as some form of “political insurance” if he failed to win in Kandy. But now The UNP was backtracking complained Ganesan.

Wickremasinghe

He said after it was known that the UNP was entitled to nine seats on the national list it was decided that five would go to the UNP, two to the SLMC and one each to the DPF and SLFP (M).Shortly before noon on April 21st there was a reversal and the SLFP(M) and DPF were omitted.Ganesan alleged that Wickremasinghe had gone back on this assurance due to pressure from hardliners in the party.

When asked about the UNP policy decision of not appointing defeated candidates on the national list, Ganesan responded by saying that such a condition did not apply to UNF constituents like the DPF. It was a UNP and not UNF decision.

He also pointed out that the UNP was duplicitous on the matter as it had appointed Ms. Anoma Gamage the wife of defeated UNP candidate Daya Gamage in Digamadulla district on the national list. People can see through this ruse, Ganesan said.

Ganesan also claimed that he and his party should be treated as an exception and given preferential treatment as he had undertaken great risks in challenging the high-handed tactics of Mahindaananda Aluthgamage in Nawalapitiya.

Another grouse was over Tamil representation in Colombo district. The DPF had been promised three slots on the candidate list. But later the UNP wanted one to field a Tamil candidate of its own. The DPF agreed and gave up one candidate.

UNP Western Provincial Councillor and lawyer Ram was to be the Tamil candidate. But UNP stalwart Ravi Karunayake who was cultivating the Colombo North electoral division had objected strongly to a UNP Tamil candidate and pressured Wickremasinghe into withdrawing Ram’s candidacy.

Neither Ganesan nor Digamparam seem to have entered into any memorandum of understanding or written agreement with the UNP leader about national list allocations. They seem to have relied on verbal assurances given by Wickremasinghe. As Digamparam told BBC “we trusted Ranil as he was a gentleman in politics”.

Karunanayake

The BBC Tamil service also asked Ravi Karunayake about the controversy. It appeared that Karunanayake was unable to categorically deny that such promises about national list appointments had been made to the DPF or NUW.

Instead of a straight-forward denial Karunanayake posed a challenge asking these parties to furnish documents that such pledges had been made. Against the backdrop of these parties whining that they trusted Wickremasinghe’s oral promise and that there were no written agreements Karunanayake’s countering sounded cheap and hollow.

Karunayake added insult to injury by ridiculing the two parties as poor losers. One fielded two candidates and one won. The other fielded sixteen candidates and got only one seat, Karunanayake said. He also charged that both parties were ready to join govt ranks and were using this issue as a pretext to ditch the UNF.

Whatever the merits or otherwise of Karunanayake’s response it does seem clear that the UNP is going to embark on a new course of political action. The party is likely to refrain from alliances with political parties espousing minority community interests and instead deal with the non – Sinhala ethnicities directly. The appointment of its own members like Swaminathan and Yogarajan as national list MP’s is a pointer to the future.

Mano Ganesan’s predicament as a consequence of his failure to win in Kandy district is also a source of worry as far as Tamil political representation outside the North and East is concerned.

Although the anti-democratic antics of Aluthgamage has received much publicity there is a larger and more deep-seated problem in Kandy district.

It was in 1994 that a Tamil was elected to Parliament from Kandy district. Rajaratnam of the CWC contesting on the UNP list was elected. Thereafter no Tamil has been elected. One of the reasons attributed is the systematic violence directed against Tamils in a bid to intimidate them during elections.

Nawalapitiya

What happened in Nawalapitiya was perhaps the tip of the iceberg. But according to Up Country Tamil politicians this practice prevails in other areas of the district too.

In the current election apart from Nawalapitiya electoral divisions like Gampola, Kundasale, Hewaheta, Pathadumbara, Udadumbara etc have also suffered such intimidation of Tamil voters.

As a result of this Tamil voters in Kandy district do not vote at all or vote for non-Tamil candidates to avoid trouble. Thus no Tamil stands a chance of getting elected from the district.

It was to force a change in this situation that Mano Ganesan moved from Colombo to Kandy.

His candidacy was viewed as a threat by some elements and protest demonstrations were staged against the alleged “intruder”.

Ganesan countered this by meeting the Mahanayake Theros of Malwatte and Asgiriya chapters and explaining that he was not an outsider to Kandy. Ganesan pointed out that he was born in Ampitiya and had studied at St. Anthony’s College,Katugastota.

Aluthgamage

AS the election campaign unfolded the antics of Aluthgamage captured media attention. Initially Tamil voters were intimidated. Then the Muslims. Thereafter Sinhala supporters of the UNP were targeted. Finally in the crazy hunt for “Manape” supporters of UPFA stalwarts from the district were also threatened.

Despite the prospect of defeat, Mano Ganesan to his credit took up the challenge and invaded the forbidden territory of Nawalapitiya electorate. His supporters were attacked and according to DPF sources Mano himself was hit at least ten times.

When Ganesan accompanied the UNP’s Lakshman Kiriella into Nawalapitiya a mob surrounded them with the support of some partisan Police officers. Kiriella was abused in filth.The UNF supporters also retaliated and beat back the assailants.

On election day Tamil and Muslim voters were threatened and at least 13 polling booths and a counting station were invaded. The Elections Commissioner annulled polls in Nawalapitiya and ordered a re-poll for April 20th in 37 polling stations. Around 36,000 Sinhala, 11,000 Tamil and 6,000 Muslim voters had to vote again.

In spite of elaborate security arrangements hoodlums went to areas where Tamils were concentrated and warned them not to vote. As a result thousands of frightened Tamils kept away.

The poll concluded without any major violence. But when results were announced no Tamil had got enough preferences warranting election.

Mano Ganesan contesting on the Elephant symbol got 28,033 preference votes. Former Kandy district MP Rajaratnam also contesting on the UNP ticket got 16,967 votes. Madhiyugarajah of the CWC contesting under the betel symbol got 7,920 preferences.

Roughly about 35 to 37,000 out of 85,000 Tamil voters in Kandy district seem to have voted. No Tamil was elected. The Muslim voters in the district number round 140,000. Four Muslim MP’s from both the UNF and UPFA were elected. This includes Muslim Congress leader Rauf Hakeem.

Intimidation

What Mano Ganesan wanted to project by contesting in Kandy was the systemic intimidation of Tamil voters in the district. He wished to draw attention to this prevalent practice.

Though Ganesan has succeeded to some extent the antics of Aluthgamage have resulted in this being viewed as an “aberration” and nothing more .What is of importance is to note that Nawalapitiya 2010 was not an isolated event but a virulent manifestation of a deplorable process.

While the violence and intimidation in Kandy district helps to understand the low turn –out of Tamil voters and corresponding decrease in Tamil representation that alone is not enough to provide an explanation for the prevailing situation.

It appears that voter apathy on the one hand and fragmentation of votes on the other are contributory factors of great magnitude in reducing Tamil representation.

If one is to take Nuwara – Eliya the number of Tamil voters is estimated at 255,000. But when the preference votes gained by Tamil candidates on the UPFA and UNF lists are calculated it appears that only around 100,000 plus Tamils have voted in the district. There was no systemic violence against Tamils here.

Likewise 116,000 Tamil voters are estimated to be in Badulla district. Vadivel Suresh contesting on the UPFA ticket got 27,827 preferences this time. He got some Sinhala votes too from the Passara electoral division. TV Sennan of CWC contesting as UPFA got 7587 preferences.

Satchithanandan and Velayutham contesting on the UNF ticket got 22, 277 and 25, 056 preferences respectively. Uva Provincial Councillor Aravinthakumar of the UCPF who contested separately got 11, 474 preferences. Thus only around 60 -65,000 Tamils seemed to have voted in Badulla district.

This seems to have been the case in Colombo district too. When the preference votes obtained by Tamil candidates and parties/groups are calculated the pattern does not indicate a high turn out by Tamils.

This is further illustrated by the comparatively lesser turn out in electoral divisions with large concentrations of Tamils. Tamils of Sri Lankan origin in Colombo are more to blame in this respect.

Rejected

Another problem is the high aggregate of spoiled votes in the Up- Country districts. The number of rejected votes in the districts of Nuwara – Eliya, Kandy, Matale, Badulla, Kegalle and Ratnapura were 37,236 (12.27%), 58,333 (9.45%)19,310(8.98%),24,169 (6.41%),25,965(6.68%) and 37,022 (7.71% ) respectively.

Preliminary surveys indicate that a substantial number of these rejected votes were in polling stations in Tamil areas. One reason for the votes getting spoiled was that voters had simply voted for numbers belonging to other parties or groups instead of the party for which they had cast their votes

Another reason for reduced representation was proliferation of candidates and fragmentation. Individual candidates received preference votes that were not enough to ensure their election.

Thus these votes helped enhance the number of MP’s to be elected from the party but did not help certain individual candidates to win. Thus these votes gained by some candidates helped others to reap the benefits.

Impersonal

Another feature of this poll was the tendency on the part of many candidates to avoid direct canvassing or holding pocket meetings on a wide scale. Instead of interacting with voters directly many preferred to reach out through posters,leaflets and extensive media advertisements. There was an “impersonal” atmosphere in the campaign.

One other aspect of the recent elections is the downfall of the Up Country Peoples Front. After its leader Chandrasekharan died in January the party is led by his widow Shanthinidevi a retired school teacher. The UCPF Contested separately with her heading the list in Nuwara-Eliya and got 13,109. It contested under Aravinthakumar in Badulla district and got 11,481 votes.. In Colombo the UCPF contested under the aegis of the UPFA. Its outgoing national list MP Radhakrishnan got 9,064 preferences and another candidate Ravichandran got 4,210.

Despite an anticipated sympathy wave for the grieving widow the results were not favourable for the UCPF. It has failed dismally. Since the UCPF evolved and revolved around Chandrasekharan it may very well decay into oblivion after his death.

The important lesson to be learnt from the election results is that the general pattern of Tamil voting is on the decline in districts outside the North and East.

Decline

The decline in the North and East is understandable to an extent as the effects of prolonged conflict are still felt. Some negative consequences are yet to be rectified.

But why is voting decreasing among Tamils in other areas? Why should voters in Tamil majority Nuwara-Eliya district keep away from voting? Why are Tamil voters in Colombo apathetic?

It is a sad truth that many Tamil voters are yet disenfranchised due to lack of proper identification and citizenship documents. It is an indictment on Plantation trade unions that these issues are not resolved yet

But why are eligible voters not voting in large numbers?

This is the question to be addressed and remedied if the decline of Tamil political nrepresentation is to be prevented in the seven “Sinhala” majority provinces.

DBS Jeyaraj can be reached at dbsjeyaraj2005@yahoo.com

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352 Comments

  1. Very happy to see Mr.Jeyaraj writing about up-country Tamil political developments. I seldom find detailed analysis about this type of politics in English mainstream media

    Please write more and more about this neglected people Mr.Jeyaraj

  2. Does not the colonization of the Tamil areas have an adverse impact on the decline of the Tamil representation in the Parliament?

  3. Nice to see DBS writing about us the Indian Tamils for a change. Hope to see more like this

    We are losing representation because our leaders dont motivate us to vote enough

  4. David,

    The new list of 37 cabinet ministers was announced today. There is only one Tamil appointed as a cabinet minister. He would represent both the Sri Lankan Tamils and the Tamils of ‘Indian origin’. We are numerically under represented at the highest levels of Government. I only hope that the TNA reaches an accord with the Rajapakse administration to allow them to join the cabinet and represent our interests.

  5. narrow nationalism of minorities have prevented SL from devoleping a national concensus. Democracy in sl has failed because of it.

  6. Hats off to you again Sir, for an insightful analysis. Very sad to note the turn of events. I hope someone will translate your articles into Thamizh, so those who cannot read in English will still be able to read them in Thamizh.

  7. Mr.Jayaraj, I see a fundamental error in your analysis of Tamil voting patterns. You have assumed that nearly all Tamils vote for Tamil candidates – vice versa. In practice, it never happens.

    For example, in Nawalapitiya, Mr.Aluthgamage is held in high esteem by many Sinhala and Tamils. If you had an ear-to-the-ground in Nawalapitiya, your perception of Mr.Aluthgamage would be very different. Most of what written about him in electronic and print media is like science fiction. The problems in Nawalapitiya arise out of Sri Lanka’s bastardised system of voting introduced by JR Jayawardena for UNPs self preservation.

    Sri Lankans are not racist people. Just study the voting patterns prior to 1983. Race had very little to do with voting outside North and East from 1948 to 1983.
    sadly, caste was another matter. Lets hope our children will be more enlighten than our generation.

    So Aluthgamage is not to be blamed?…………..DBSJ

  8. “Communal representation” under the British rule is the spark of the “ethnic” problem as we know it today. The only solution is to think of everyone as “Sri Lankan” and give up Sinhalese, Tamil and Muslim. Not cultural/ethnic/linguistic identities, but only the national identities.

  9. Wow! If only all problems in this world could find this depth of an analysis.

    God bless & Thanks for your tireless efforts.

  10. Voter apathy I consider a positive development. I wish still a greater number did not vote at all. If I were in Sri Lanka I too would not have voted. This absolutely corrupt and ethnicity based political system should some day go. If I were Mahanayake I would request the people to abstain from voting. Prabakaran was right when he ‘ordered’ Tamils not to vote.

  11. And you still belive the Tamils can live ‘peacefully’ wit these Sinhalease?

    Of course! and they are living together now are they not?………..DBSJ

  12. Why did eligible voters not vote in large numbers? It is the crucial question everybody has to ask themselves. There is a clear reason for that. Nobody wants to talk about that.
    I asked my sisters who are still in Jaffna. They said they were not interested in voting for nothing. That is the actual reason. They don’t think that this political representation will do something for them. “It is just another kind of business, nothing more”. They said right away.
    Does anybody think that these politicians can help them to rebuild the shattered life? Can they recreate the destroyed economic structures? Can they restore the peaceful old days? Can they bring back their lost lives? These small ants can’t build big dams. Let them do something – fill their pockets, send their kith and kin to green pastures, whatever they want. Don’t expect more. Thirty or more years of ‘military power’ brought nothing. How can these ‘ten -plus –some’ people bring political power? Does anybody know where the power is to bring? If people from 140 or more cultures can live together here, why can’t only two languages speaking people live together? Think about that.

  13. Tamils are disgruntled with the Parliamentary system dominated by the majority and feel their voices wont be heard. Until the ruling government treats the Tamils fairly and to a greater extent equally, this trend will continue to worsen.

  14. It’s time Up country Tamil political parties and TNA join forces. Tamils should not forget the work Mano Ganashan did during the white van period.

  15. A well-researched and useful study on the Tamil voting patterns and history outside the NEP in recent times. Till about 1994 the late Thondaman ensured the CWC remained the undisputed voice of this segment of the Tamil population both within and outside Parliament. The exception was the late Chandrasekeram – himself a CWC man until he was edged out by inter-play within.

    Thondaman failed in ensuring his continuity in the party and thus was born the first major challenge to the CWC – the voice of the people of recent Indian origin for over 5 decades. If personal prejudice and jealousy can be overcome the Colombo District can easily vote in 2 for the CWC – the ideal being senior Sellasamy or the affable PP Devaraj – an academic who impressed old Thonda in the 90s until some of them unleashed an under-cooked Coup d’eta on the autocratic leader.

    The combined votes Yogarajan and Devaraj polled in the 90s evidence of this. Arumugam Thondaman proved in the last Parliament 2 seats can be gained in Badulla if sufficient work is put in. He camped there for 3 months and ensured Satchithanandan and the total newcomer Vadivel Suresh were in. Taking UNPer Velayutham and the ageing TV Sennan’s votes there it is clear Badulla has space to vote in 2 MPs.

    Badulla was lot because the younger Thondaman is building up his nephew Senthil that split the party potential there. If Rajaratnam was not shown the door he would have won for Kandy but again personal politics intervened to the level where the Party was forced to vote in favour of a Muslim candidate – who had no connection with the CWC at all. This upset many in the rank and file who were never consulted. That this MP broke away and worked against the CWC is now history.

    Madiyugarajah should have been encouraged to be in Provincial politics until the Tamil voter base was sufficiently developed in Kandy. Sivagnanam is another candidate in the Kandy-Matale electorate who has enough support to take him to Parliament if personal inter-play is overcome.

    The Nuwara Eliya District can vote in 5-6 Indian Tamil candidates. New faces Minnal Renga and Digambaram are cases in point. Sadasivam is still a force to be reckoned with. With some effort and unity Ratnapura/Sabaragamuwa has potential for a seat as AMD Rajan proved earlier. He did not get much support from the party high-up in recent times. And so in the Gampaha District – that includes the Wattala, Peliyagoda, Ja Ela areas where there is sufficient voting strength to send an Indian origin MP to Parliament –
    even on the UNP ticket. So there is room for about 10 elected MPs.

    With 3-4 from the National List it becomes clear closing ranks will be in the interest of all concerned there. If the generally accepted equation of 1 MP for 100,000 is to be meaningful the number should be around 15 minimum. There is also room for people of the North to vote in one MP in the Colombo District as Maheswaran established.

    The reference to spoilt votes is relevant and has not been sufficiently addressed by the main plantation political parties – although this is often discussed luke-warm fashion within. There is room for at least one more Parliamentary seat here – if done with purpose using the right educated men in the membership. Small time traders, labourers and other workers, shop assistants, domestics in the Colombo District are believed to be around 15-20,000 voters not registered elsewhere. There is a sizeable population of recent Indians in the Wanni and the EP but since they are located non-contigously they cannot be sourced to produce MPs.

    It is rivalry within, inter-party squabbles and lethargy at leadership levels (that springs into action only during election times) that work against a higher presence of this segment in Parliament.

    ISS

  16. Dear DBSJ,
    You have yourself clarified the reasons as to “why are eligible voters not voting in large numbers”?
    It is due mainly to intimidation and to a lesser extent to apathy and indifference.
    This may be true of what happened in the north and east too.
    As long as thuggery and intimidation,mainly by the ruling party is used against potential oppositon voters, facilitated by indifferent police, there can be no ‘democratic’ elections.
    This is because there is no Rule of Law which again is due to the non implementation of the 17th Amendment.
    Until your expose, I beleived Ranil was a man of his word.But it appears that he too has succombed to partisan politics.
    Sri Lanka has a long way to go. We can only watch and wait.

  17. Daily Mirror online, Apr 8:

    By Jamila Najmuddin

    Election monitors claim that some private establishments in Colombo have failed to authorize leave for their employees in order to cast their vote at the General Elections today and a complaint to this effect is going to be lodged at the Elections Department.

    PAFFREL Executive Director, Rohana Hettiarachchi told Daily Mirror online that they had received some complaints from individuals claiming that their establishments had not authorized leave and investigations were underway to identify these companies.

    “We are trying to identify these companies and where it is located. Once we have the information we will lodge a complaint with the Elections Department. All employees must be given leave today to cast their votes,” Hettiarachchi said.

    He added that companies in Colombo should have authorized leave for its employees from early this week as those whose voting is outstation could have made arrangements to travel to their respective home towns prior to polling day today.

    He further said that it was not possible for employees to travel today as public transport was poor.

  18. The disunity among the Tamils is so appalling that there is no way the UPFA or the UNP will ever treat them with any real respect. They can be bought over, bribed or bullied. I can understand fear but selling their own people for a mess of pottage is a crime against their own people. Even India doesn’t care a rap and will do nothing substantial because of this. It will only be talk.

  19. Excellent analysis of election results in Colombo and Malaiyaham

    We Indian Tamils and ceylon tamils together with muslims in the 7 southern provinces must form united front. That is best way to get more MP’s and watch out for our benefits

  20. I think DBS must write more about the politics of Tamils outside the north and east like this one

    After all DBS also is a Colombo born and bred Tamil even if parents were from Jaffna

    So I think DBS must identify with these Fellow Tamils and focus more on them

  21. Ideally Singhala MP’s should get Tamil votes and look after Tamil voters

    But this does not happen

    So Tamils need Tamil MP’s

    If number of Tamil MP’s go down that is not good for community

  22. I too listened to BBC interview by Ravi Karunayake DBS

    He was arrogant and insulting. Mano and Digambaram did well to quit the UNF

  23. Aravinda Fernando in # comment no 7 tries to whitewash the sins of Mahindananda Aluthgamage

    But the following excerpt from the “Island” newspaper exposes the truth

    SLFP probes Aluthgamage’s April 8 actions
    by Lal Gunesekera
    Former People’s Bank Chairman W. R. Karunajeewa has been appointed by the SLFP to head the disciplinary committee probing allegations against Former Minister of Power

    Mahindananda Aluthgamage during the April 8 General Elections.

    Aluthgamage was accused of creating trouble in Nawalapitiya, which compelled Elections Commissioner Dayananda Dissanayake to annul the polls in 37 polling centres on April 8 and hold a re-poll there on April 20.

    Aluthgamage topped the preferential votes list with 136,765 votes.

    General Secretary of the SLFP, Minister Maithripala Sirisena, told The Island that President Mahinda Rajapaksa had ordered an immediate inquiry into the incidents at Nawalapitiya and the allegations against Aluthgamage.

    President Rajapaksa has called for the report of the disciplinary committee within two weeks, Minister Sirisena said.

  24. WAKE UP CALL FOR EVERY TAMILS!
    Upcountry tamils, muslims, christians, north east tamils, soth west tamils!
    And all peaceloving sinhalese,

    “United we stand divide we fall”

  25. I think this is an insightful piece, but there are three points that it omits.

    First, it ignores the demographic consequence of the emigration of Tamil Sri Lankans. Most of these left Sri Lanka post 1983. In 1981, Both Sri Lankan and Indian-origin Tamils accounted for 18% of the country’s population, and probably under 17% of the electorate, given that many estate Tamils were not yet enfranchised. The Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora, excluding those who left in earlier generations to places like Singapore and Malaysia, amounts to anywhere between 600-1,000,000, depending on what claims one believes. On average, a Sri Lankan MP represents just under 90,000 people (adults and children). So depending on how much larger the post-1981 Tamil exodus was than the exodus of SInhalese (thousands of them also left the country), then one should expect that all things being fair that Tamil representation in Parliament would have fallen by 7-12 MPs from the 1970s to 2010 simply due to changes in population, and without any discrimination. In addition, it is worth noting that the impact of the exodus on the electorate would have been hidden in 2004. In that election, although voter numbers (potential and actual) were substantially reduced in Northern Province, the impact on the number of MPs was negligible, since the Electoral Commission did not reduce the number of MPs allocated to say Jaffna to take into account the population shifts. The only impact it would have had would have been on the number of potential National List MPs (25), who are selected based on the national vote shares. The necessary change in Jaffna representation will only happen after the 2011 Census, and will probably result in a substantial reduction of MPs in Jaffna, although mitigated by increases in parts of the Eastern Province.

    If we were to assume that there was a net emigration of 800,000 more Tamil Sri Lankans than non-Tamil Sri Lankans since 1981, then a more realistic estimate for the current combined Tamil Sri Lankan population would be only 14% or less in 2010, and not 18%. If representation was based purely on ethnic grounds, and that would clearly be wrong, then this would imply a total representation in Parliament of only 30-31 MPs. This is not that far off the actual number elected in the 2010 elections.

    Second, we need to be realistic about the impact of emigration and conflict on the political class. Traditionally, many Tamil legislators were drawn from the upper classes and the professions. However, the professions have suffered the highest level of emigration in recent years, and of course those articulate Tamil leaders who could have provided leadership in current times were often the most likely to be victims of terror, or have long been intimidated away from politics by the increasing brutalization. Let’s not forget Obama’s fellow civil rights lawyer and Harvard Law School alumnus Neelan Tiruchelvam. So the Tamil community is doubly hit in electoral terms, both in numbers, and also in the pool of potential political candidates. I think this will change in time, but it will need time. And of course a return of many of the educated, professionals in the diaspora to live, work and contribute in Sri Lanka would do far more to assist their brethren’s voice in Sri Lanka than agitating against Sri Lanka from outside. Ultimately, and this is a message to that diaspora, the future of the Tamil community in Sri Lanka can only be determined by those who live (and vote) in Sri Lanka, and if you really want to contribute you have to come back.

    Third, it needs to be asked whether Tamils ought to be represented by Tamils, and Sinhalese by Sinhalese, etc, and whether that can and should remain the proper indicator and mindset (although I am sure that was not a point to be covered in this article). If Sri Lanka is to be a country in which every citizen – Sinhala, Tamila, Burgher, Muslim, Chinese, Malay, and every other combination – can feel equal citizens – then ultimately this has to change. A lot of people say ‘look at Obama in USA”, but Obama won because he consciously stove to represent a mixed white-non-white constituency, winning his Senate seat in a predominantly white electorate, and then his Presidency in an overwhelming white electorate. That may ultimately mean, Tamil Sri Lankans participating in greater numbers in the mainstream parties in Sri Lanka, and coming to Parliament on the back of Sinhala and Tamil votes, just as many Muslim MPs have done in the past.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    The question here is about Tamil representation decreasing outside the north -east. Why are Tamils not voting in large numbers?

  26. 29-DBSJ RESPONDS:

    “The question here is about Tamil representation decreasing outside the north -east. Why are Tamils not voting in large numbers?”

    Good question but have you considered the possibilty that tamils outside the NE are no longer racist and are actually voting for Chingalam candidates. In Colombo lots of tamils would have voted for Ranil and Rosy rather than the unknown little brother.

    Also consider the other possibilty- if the diaspora funded “super supreme” Sun God had not wiped out National level moderate tamils like Kadirgamar, Jeyraj and Neelan…us Chingalams would have had viable tamil candidates to vote for in this election.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    If Tamils vote for Tamils are they racist?If Sinhala people vote for Sinhala candidates are they racist?

  27. Meena # 40 says:

    “I think Mano G is hasty in quitting the UNF. How can he work with racist Rajapakse regime?”

    Depends on what he gets from Rajapaksha. My dear Neena where did you live all these years?

  28. Dear DBSJ,

    In response to #31-citizens you ask:

    “If Tamils vote for Tamils are they racist?If Sinhala people vote for Sinhala candidates are they racist?”

    Of course they are – I mean both parties. If ethnicity comes before merits then by definition you are racist.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    The question of merit vs ethnicity is a hypothesis introduced by you. My query is If people of a particular ethnicity vote for someone of their ethnicity why is it racist?

  29. DBSJ, there was apathy in the general election even among the sinhalese, so the tamils not voting may be not surprising.

    What if tamils had voted for good sinhala candidates. Looking at preferences received by tamil candidates to find out how many tamils voted will not be accurate if this had happenned. Tamils may have been dissilusioned by the quality of the tamil candidates and voted for the best, and in this case it may have been a sinhalese like Piyasena in the east. That is the way i would have voted too. What do you gain by voting for your own ethnicity if they don’t care a tuppence for you after the election and also somersault from the opposition to government and vise versa. The way they prostitute themselves to the highest bidder has become a joke now. People might have just looked at who will do the most for their electorate and vote without looking at the ethnicity. M.H. Mohammed used to get elected in Borella though there was hardly any muslims there.

    As for those being defeated thinking they can get in through the national list, that is also another joke. Ultimately this whole parliamentary system has become a joke. I hope they Scrap the national list and also make it illegal to get votes using one party and cross over to the other party after being elected. How would the voters feel when this happens. They have voted principally for the party and its policies and next for person.

    A westerner asked me an interesting question. He knew we had a monarchy before the colonial times. He said why not bring them back as a watchdog like in England and thailand. I told him the problem with that is we had Tamil and sinhala kings. He said then why don’t you rotate them, 5 years for a tamil king and 5 years for a sinhala king.

    I was also thinking the moment this unruly mob of jokers get out of hand the king can step in and restore order. First we have to find the descendents of our monarchs.

    And if there are some people who think they are kings now it will bring them down to earth, when the real one is crowned. He will of course not be running the country but just keeping an eye on things and if people have grieviences against the government they can come and see him. Then he can summon the president and talk to him about these.

    After all why don’t we show the world we were not a bunch of savages running naked with spears, but we had a glorius civilisation with a monarchy just like england, the only difference being our monarchs lost the war with the colonial powers because they did not have guns and cannon.

  30. #12
    And you still belive the Tamils can live ‘peacefully’ wit these Sinhalease?

    Of course! and they are living together now are they not?………..DBSJ

    _________________________________________

    I am sure there is no place in a civilised world where any two communities can’t live peacefully. Sinhalese and Tamils are no exception.

    But the culprit is the SL State . It must become a Secular State . Only then there wont be a SERIOUS communal Tension. Else No Solution will work in the Long Run.

    Sinhalese and Tamils have in the past and currently may live peacefully. But at any point in time in future, if small or major differences between the communities come to open, the present inappropriate politics or system of governance will pave way chaos in the society. If this is not plugged, there is a Large Space for LTTE to reappear in the very long run. That is not good for everyone of us.

  31. Ganshan is just too much. How dare he condemn Ranil? These Indian Tamil upstarts must know their place. Whether SLFP or UNP we Sinhalas are the masters

  32. I agree with DBS

    Some are defining Racism wrongly. If their defiition is extended one marrying from the same ethnicity is also racism

  33. #33-Piyal

    Dear DBSJ,

    Thanks for your prompt response to my comment #33

    “The question of merit vs ethnicity is a hypothesis introduced by you. My query is If people of a particular ethnicity vote for someone of their ethnicity why is it racist?”

    I feel you are off the track for once. When JVP proposed Kadiragamar for premiership my heart cried to see that realised. I feel the pain to this day. I can’t understand how you say it wasn’t racism that promoted Rajapaksha above Kadiragamar. Though a Sinhalese I placed Kadiragamar above ALL politicians living at the time.

    Please place this question around Canada where you live. How many will agree?

    If an Anglo American voted for Bush while acknowledging Obama is much more talented for the job isn’t he being racist? . In the same vein I believe a substantial portion of African Americans who voted for Obama were racists.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    My question is simply this. Why should People voting for candidates of their ethnicity be seen as racism?

    If a Sinhalese in Moneragala or Sri Lankan Tamil in Vavuniya or Muslim in Beruwela or INdian Tamil in Nuwara – Eliya vote for someone of their ethnicity why must it be termed as racist?

    That is all. Lets move on now please

  34. 1. Small Correction:
    “One reason for the votes getting spoiled was that voters had simply voted for numbers belonging to other parties or groups instead of the party for which they had cast their votes”
    – This is incorrect as all parties have similar set of numbers and if you voted for a party and marked any preferences to any o/1/2 or 3 numbers that is considered a valid vote.

    2. Comment 37 : Milinda must be a Tamil. Normally Sinhalese don’t call themselves ‘Sinhalas’

  35. Happy indeed are we to hear the change of terminology from “Historic Homeland” to “Historic Habitation”!

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    That’s history.

    The Indo-Lanka accord of July 29th 1987 refers to the North and East as the areas of historic habitation of the Tamil and Muslim people

  36. DBSJ,
    This Indicates, North or South
    Expectation of Tamil people from Srilanka Parliament is nullifying.
    Decentralized body might get the respect.
    Parathy

  37. Dear DBS,

    Even if we focus only on areas outside north and east, demographics and several factors other than not voting can explain a lot of the reduction/underrepresentation in ethnic Tamill MPs.

    2004 elections

    Based on the 2001 Census, the ethnic Tamil population in 2004 would have been less than 9.4% outside east and north. If representation was purely on ethnic lines, then this would have translated into 15-16 elected MPs and 2 national list MPs.

    In actuality, there were 9 elected MPs (significantly less), but 5 appointed MPs (significantly more) from outside the east and north, making for a total of 14. I would exclude the Muslim CWC MP, but add in Jeyaraj Fernandopulle who was elected from a predominantly Sinhala electorate. It is worth noting here that though the number of elected MPs fell short significantly, the two national parties both compensated by giving a greater share of their national list seats to ethnic Tamil MPs from the south. Overall in 2004, the number of ethnic Tamill MPs was less than if representation was purely on ethnic lines, by 3 MPs (14 MPs vs. 17 MPs).

    However, low rates of voting cannot be the predominant reason to explain the 2004 shortfall. Other reasons include:
    (i) Many ethnic Tamil voters in the south have long chosen to vote for mainstream parties (UNP, UPFA), and do not mark their preference votes against ethnic Tamil candidates. This probably explains at least a third of the 6 elected MPs shortfall. To the extent that ethnic Tamil voters are willing to vote for mainstream parties, and cast preferences for non-Tamil candidates, this is not such a bad thing from the perspective of making Sri Lanka a less sectarian country. Just as much we need more Sinhala voters to cast their preferences for candidates such as Jeyaraj. We need voters in both communities to learn to vote for candidates of the other ethnic origin, and we need more candidates who can run on non-ethnic issues. Please note I am not suggesting any particular group of voters is more sectarian than any other.
    (ii) If voters vote purely on sectarian lines, then in many districts, where ethnic Tamil populations are less than required to elect even one MP, there will be no representation. Eg, In Puttalam, which returns 8 MPs, the ethnic Tamil population is less than 7%, not enough to elect a single MP. Overall, one third of ethnic Tamil people in the south (almost half a million) lived in districts like these where their numbers are not sufficient to elect a single MP if voting is purely on sectarian lines. This explains a shortfall of 3-4 elected MPs.
    (iii) A higher ratio of incorrectly completed votes in the estate areas. This is largely a problem of voter education, and should decline in impact.

    2010 elections

    In 2010, the shortfall has undeniably increased. If we assume that a net 150,000 ethnic Tamils have emigrated from the south during 2001-2010, (maybe an underestimate), then the ethnic Tamil population outside the east and north would have been only 8.3%. This would translate into 13-14 elected MPs and just under 2 national list MPs if representation was purely on ethnic lines.

    In actuality, we have 6 elected MPs (significantly less), and 4 appointed MPs (still significantly more). The overall shortfall is 10 MPs versus an expected 15 MPs. However, much of this gap can be explained by:
    (i) The established tendency of many Tamil voters in the south not to vote on sectarian lines (a shortfall of 2 MPs based on 2004 experience)
    (ii) The murder by the LTTE of the Tamil MPs who could command significant support in the SInhala community – Kadirgamar and Fernandopulle, neither of whom could easily be replaced (2 MPs)
    (iii) The continuing reality that one third of southern Tamil voters live in districts where sectarian voting cannot elect any Tamil MPs (3-4 MPs).

    The above factors would explain most of the shortfall.

    The future

    Looking forward, the way for ethnic Tamil representation to increase in Parliament and also in the Cabinet, cannot be through ethnic Tamil parties increasing the cohesiveness of their voting blocs. In the long-run this can only be an electoral dead-end for voters that are small minorities in most electoral districts. Just as much as it is becoming unviable for small groups such as the JVP to survive politically on their own, it is becoming more difficult for ethnic groups to do so to. Firstly, the experience of the CWC is instructive that cohesion of the vote banks cannot be maintained forever, especially if ethnic tensions reduce. Secondly, the reality is that the more Tamil voters are seen to vote on sectarian lines, the harder it becomes to persuade Sinhala voters to not vote on sectarian lines. Sectarianism in both communities feed on each other. Instead, the future has to be towards a greater focus by all parties on issues that cut-across ethnic lines, and by the emergence of politicians who don’t run on an ethnic platform. Ie we need more Jeyarajs, Kadirgamars and Obamas. Greater Tamil representation in Parliament ultimately must require greater voting across ethnic lines. And there are plenty of cross-cutting issues like these. Eg the issue of violence at elections to intimidate voters of the opposition is not a problem confined to ethnic minorities. It cuts across the ethnic divide, and surely it is only when politicians and voters unite to face common problems that we can hope to really address these issues.

    Finally, I would add that the events in the UNP demonstrates the futility of sectarian party voting. The UNP seems to have realized that allying with separate ethnic parties was in the long run more damaging to the core UNP base, which originally was very ethnically mixed. So the UNP’s decision to concentrate most of its national list seats on UNPers (both Sinhala and Tamil) most be seen in that light. One can only expect that if the UNP has any sense it will focus in the years to come on bulding up its own ethnic Tamil and Muslim candidates, and this can only eventually reduce the space for sectarian ethnic parties.

  38. In my assessment I missed out the Ganesan Brothers in Cbo since I was commenting more on the CWC potential.
    Mano gets votes from Lankan/Indian Tamils, Sinhalese and Muslims too.

    ISS

  39. I would like to respond to Ravndrap comment – comment # 29. It is an insightful comment but needs correction.

    Anywhere between 450,000 to 1,000,000 Sri Lankan Tamils left the island between 1981 and 2010. I tend to suspect the number is less rather than more given the provisional district specific census reports in the past 5 years and the Government Agent figures (under military supervision) for the number of residents in the Jaffna peninsula in particular, the Northern Province as a whole and the remainder of the island.

    In short, it appears that the combined population of the Sri Lankan and ‘Indian’ Tamils remains at least 14.5%. Ravndrap seems to agre with that number.

    Let us also not forget that 1,000,000 Sinhalese and Muslims also left the island – most of whom – left to work in the Persian Gulf. This official statistic means that the Tamil exodus is somewhat counter balanced although the Sinhalese migrants to the Gulf are temporary, not long term. However, it does impact on the census – on any given year.

    So in short, DBS is correct – the Tamil representation in a multi-ethnic and multi-religious island such as Sri Lanka is woefully inadequate. This is witnessed in yesterday’s list of 37 cabinet ministers with just one Tamil to represent at least 15% of the island’s population.

    Sri Lanka needs to learn from other multi-ethnic countries like Singapore, the United States, Britain, India and Malaysia to ensure due representation to all segments of the population spectrum.

  40. We call this

    MOHA – LOBHA – DWESHA

    MOHA- illusion
    LOBHA- cravings
    DWESHA-hatred

    The human world spin according to these rules.No matter sinhalese or Tamils.They all bloddy same.

    wickramaratne

  41. And you still belive the Tamils can live ‘peacefully’ wit these Sinhalease?

    Of course! and they are living together now are they not?………..DBSJ

    —————————————————————-

    What sort of peace is that DBSJ, where you will be uprooted from your place of dwelling and outsiders coming and occupying your land and also affect your occupation and livelihood.

    Also the govt will change the name of the places from Tamil to Sinhala.

    The govt and the people in general will look at Tamils, all Tamils with suspicion and there will be little or no representation in the armed forces and the police etc.

    Again when politicians will say that this land belongs to Sinhalese and Sinhalese only and other people could live here.

    Not only that, the clergy will come again and again and threaten the minorities.

    What is peace when your representation goes down in the Parliament.

    What is peace when the govt orchestrates genocide.as it happened in 1983.

    With all this do you still believe that Tamils and Sinhalese could live in peace.

    Or is the peace you are talking to is akin to that found in the graveyard?

    In spite of all this if the things turn out good I will be happy.

    DBSJ RESPONDS;

    Whatever you may say the bulk of Sri Lankan Tamil people will live in Sri Lanka in an undivided country. The destiny of Tamils is inextricably inter-twined with that of the Sinhalese.

    The LTTE has caused irredeemable harm to the Tamil people. Now we have to face bitter realities and pick up the pieces and get along with life

    The Tamils in Sri Lanka are a battered and shattered people. At the moment it is a case of “we dont want alms. Just call off the dogs”.

    But I have immense trust and pride in the resilience of my people. If we get a period of peace we can slowly pull ourselves up gradually

    The Tamils need to avoid irrational confrontational politics and adopt a pragmatic approach. If we try to take a hardline we will get decimated further. The Sinhala hawks are itching to demolish us further and the policies of the Diaspora idiots and Tamil nadu jokers are helping them

    Today the TNA is slowly trying to disown its LTTE past and move forward. We need to encourage that

    Today the Rajapakse govt is right on top. Whether we like it or not we have to try and reach some amicable understanding with him in power

    The Sinhala hardliners will try and put us down further.We have to defend ourselves and protest the Sinhala hardline activity. But this cannot be countered by continuing to advocate a separate state.

    we must try and contain Sinhala hawkish actions within a unitd Sri Lanka and move forward. Our discourse should not be secessionist but within universally accepted standards of human rights, democracy and pluralism

    There is no magic wand to change things overnight. It is an uphill task. But there is no other way. Tamil Eelam is no option

    The Tamils living in Sri Lanka can only decide what is good for them. WE can only help and support them humbly without trying to dictate or engage in rhetoric

    The Tamils have been resisting Sinhala domination from the thirties of the last century. Today that struggle has been defeated militarily. But the political roots of that struggle remain

    In the process of resistance the armed struggle also commenced.If we had translated the “military muscle” we had at one point into bargaining power we may have had federalism

    The LTTE had golden opportunities which it missed. The best was the 2002 Oslo accord declaring an exploration of federalism

    Fully realising the futilty of an armed struggle I repeatedly implored the tigers to change course and go in for a political settlement

    I was ridiculed and harassed and intimidated by Tamil tiger sycophants for that

    Today the LTTE is no more and the Tamils are in a terrible plight

    I did not cause this.The LTTE caused it.

    Tamils who kept silent or cheered the LTTE on its destructive cause are asking me now ‘What do you say about Tamil situation”? as if I was the architecht for this plight.

    I have been saddened immensely by recent happenings that I dont really want to talk about the past

    But tiger sycophants and fellow travellers irritate me into touching on that

    Today the Tamils will have to accept reality and try and make the best of a bad situation

    We must slowly re-build ourselves first. Our priorities now are repairing and restoring damages of war.

    We need full re-settlement of our people, We need reduction of high security zones, we need massive reconstruction, we need to get the 10,000 plus LTTE cadres released and re-integrate them into society. We need to get release of detenues under PTA. We need to revive agriculture, fisheries, small and medium industry etc and boost our economy. we must develop tourism and also encourage foreign investment

    There is so much to be done

    To do all this we have to work and cooperate with the Sinhala President and Sinhala dominated government. There is no other way

    On another track we must also try and push the case for greater devolution. If we had negotiated from a position of strength when the LTTE was vibrant we could have got more. But now we have no clout and so will have to rely on the good sense and magnanimity of the President and govt

    There is no point in relying on the west or India. We the Tamils must reach out directly to the Sinhalese

    There is no point in getting external pressure to compel Colombo into entering political arrangements.

    Even if the Sinhalese do so under compulsion they will always fight rear-guard action to scuttle or prevent it (as in the case of 13th amendment)

    The Sinhala polity or majority of Sinhala polity must give willingly and not yield under pressure

    In that case Mahinda Rajapakse is ideal because the Sinhalese will trust him. So whatever he does in this respect will be accepted. His Sinhala credentials are impeccable

    But we have to be realistic. We cannot expect Mahinda to give all that we ask. That is impossible. For one thing Mahinda himself is not amenable to some of our demands . Also he is fully conscious of the trust placed in him by Sinhalese and will not like to be seen as letting them down

    So we can only hope for some limited rights and concessions at present. But That is enough for me now

    What we must avoid at all costs is a return to violence and militancy. It would be suicidal for Tamils

    Mahinda will not give up the UNITARY state. He will NOT agree to a North – East merger

    The practical course to follow would be to strengthen the current provincial council system. While keeping full – fledged federalism as a long – term goal the Tamils must work together with the Sinhalese and Muslims to gain as much devolution as possible within a unitary state

    WE can strive for full implementation of Tamil as an Official language.It is in the Constitution already

    We should try and use the devolutionary powers we get and develop our areas and address our grievances. But these should be very clearly within a UNITED country. Reasonable minded Sinhalese (not the fanatics and paranoids)must be convinced that secessionism will not rise again

    If we can work together the current hostile atmosphere will get gradually reduced

    If we Tamils find that the powers and rights within a unitary state are adequate to fulfill our needs and accommodate legitimate aspirations then fine. We need not agitate further

    But if we genuinely find them as inadequate then we can try to make the Sinhalese understand why more powers are necessary and ask for more. In a cordial non – confrontational situation the Sinhala polity would be in a better state of mind to understand these concerns and be more sympathetic

    The Tamils have to adjust to a situation of accepting the attainable instead of striving suicidally for the desirable

    We had a verti but we thought that was of poor quality or feared it would be stripped away and strove for a silk verti. WE were offered a khadar verti but spurned it demanding and fighting for a Pattu verti Now we have no verti and only have a loin cloth to cover our nakedness. If we continue to be confrontational there wont be a Komanam too

    When I say the Tamils must shed confrontational politics and reconcile to reality I am not giving them a choice. There is ACTUALLY no choice at the moment.

    I am only trying to cover up the pathetic plight of the Tamils and trying to give them a semblance of self – respect

    I am asking the Tamils to make a virtue out of necessity because Sri Lanka is the homeland of the “Ilankai Thamizhar” and the bulk of our people have to live there whatever the problems

    PS: I hate to keep on writing these self-evident hometruths. Please dont engage me on this again

  42. I think it is high time that SL did a proper census of the complete island. With the massive Tamil migration of the last 30 years, who knows what the real numbers are. Until that is done and all eligible voters are registered, all these numbers that people are throwing all around has no real meaning.

    Any one knows when the next census of SL is to take place?

    Nest year 2011 …………DBSJ

  43. He would represent both the Sri Lankan Tamils and the Tamils of ‘Indian origin’

    Thondaman has now been given a portfolio.

  44. Your response to 48, i agree with you most of them, tell me why we tamils in this state..what went wrong? is it பட்டு வெட்டி கேட்டோம், இப்போ கோமணம் மட்டும் மிஞ்சி இருக்கு?
    this is the reason or else …

  45. DBS has already given the answer for Q.51 in Q.48. Need no more to say.

    If you want more, this is what is happening in a deeper sense.

    The diaspora is like salt crystals floating in flowing water.

    As it drifts with the flow, the salt gets dissolved in water. Finally it merges with the ocean with nothing in it.

    The flowing water is life, the disssolving salt is the EGO and the ocean is the final reality

  46. # 48. Mahesh

    DBS :
    “bulk of our people have to live there whatever the problems”

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    It is true.

    The best thing would be not to negotiate anything wit Rajapakse. Accept what ever is offered.

    That could be better what Srilankans could demand, negotiate and get.

    Even a kind of second class citizens treatment is a feeling, even citizens in many countries have accepted it as matter of fact.

    one such classic example is Malaysia for Chinese and Tamil. However they live a happier and peaceful life perhaps compare to srilankan tamils who fought for their rights.

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  47. DBSJ, Your response to #48 was wonderful. I feel it would have been better if you had written it as an article, because many must have missed this as a comment. I know you suffered a lot by giving advice to idiots who did not appreciate it, but don’t give up. If people keep on giving good advice, whether it is followed or not, they have done their duty by their people and their country, the rest is in god’s hands.

    As for now being in a loincloth only, i thought it was even worse in Nanthikadal with whats inside the loincloth also missing.

  48. 48. Mahesh

    DBSJ RESPONDS

    There is no point in getting external pressure to compel Colombo into entering political arrangements.

    Even if the Sinhalese do so under compulsion they will always fight rear-guard action to scuttle or prevent it (as in the case of 13th amendment)
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    I do accept your point of view in that now our choices are few.

    After 1983 the armed struggle was seen as a liberation struggle.

    After the 1987 accord I only wish that the VP had accepted it and gone with the full faith in implementation of the accord.

    Any how the Sinhalese have the history of dumping all the accords they entered into with the pressure of the out siders or on their own.

    He could have waited for the Sinhalese to scuttle the accord instead of him doing it.

    In that way he would not have lost the moral high ground.

    And the killing of the Rajiv Gandhi should have been avoided.

    That turned on the Tamils in the main land against VP and the LTTE.

    Had these two things not have happened then he would have enjoyed good support in the Tamil Nadu even now.

    This is the oppurtunity for the Sri lankan state.

    What they are going to do we do not know.

    Let us hope and pray that sagacity dawns on them.

    And you cant trample a people permanently under duress.

    Wish them good luck.

  49. we must try and contain Sinhala hawkish actions within a unitd Sri Lanka and move forward. Our discourse should not be secessionist but within universally accepted standards of human rights, democracy and pluralism
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    WAs this not tried by chelva and amir?.

    No!……………DBSJ

  50. Wow …….DBSJ…………I take off my hat to you Sir…..

    Your respond to#48.. … Yes we have plenty of space to live with Sinhala lanka….Oorayeram Andugal chemiththa Kadhal ethu……Nurayeram Andugal thandeum Valum………
    Time to realise, and leave our past, work closely with Rajapaksa regime…..Diasporas must understand we cant afford to missed any opportunity……

  51. #53,

    “one such classic example is Malaysia for Chinese and Tamil. However they live a happier and peaceful life perhaps compare to srilankan tamils who fought for their rights.”

    I am not sure on this one and will aloow a Malaysian Tamil or Chinese to comment on thier happiness in Malaysia. Their happiness might be equal to the Tamils happiness living in the SL South, all are good and well provided you accept what we give and do not complain.

    I am aware of Tamils agitating against the State in Malaysia, one of the main reasons why the Malaysian State is fully behind the SL State.

  52. DBSJ,
    Your response to #48 captures the essence of current reality , the mind set and the emotions of the minorities in SL.
    I just want to add to the proposed solution that upper chamber in parliament with equal representation from each province could be a trade off to merged NE province.If 5 upper house members are allotted for each province,then minority representation could well be around 15-20 including Muslims and upcountry tamils in upper house.If this house has powers along the senate in US that will be adequate.
    Finally I wish you could publish your response to #48 in SL tamil language papers like Veerakesari, Uthayan, Thinnakural etc.

  53. I always feel when the dust finally settles on this problem (if that ever happens) it will settle along the lines of power rather than lines of justice.

    I for one advocate that Sinhalese should do justice by the Tamils, because 1) that is the right thing to do and 2) it is their best and only defense against Tamil aggression which will be there whether Sinhalese do justice or not.

  54. 55. Mahesh:

    And the killing of the Rajiv Gandhi should have been avoided … Let us hope and pray that sagacity dawns on them…

    According to you the principle blunder done by VP was killing Rajiv…. I don’t know what kind of an animal you are.
    Yes I too hope that sagacity will prevail among the Sinhalese when forks like you are round.

  55. 55. Mahesh:

    And the killing of the Rajiv Gandhi should have been avoided … Let us hope and pray that sagacity dawns on them…

    According to you the principle blunder done by VP was killing Rajiv…. I don’t know what kind of an animal you are.
    Yes I too hope that sagacity will prevail among the Sinhalese when forks like you are around.

  56. Comment # 53 touched on Malaysian Chinese and Tamils.

    I am a Malaysian Sinhalese and have lived in Malaysia for 5 decades and would like to offer a perspective of someone who did not grow up in SL. Malaysia got its independence from the British in 1957, about 9 years after SL did. Population of SL is about 20 million while Malaysia’s about 25 million.

    Both countries at time of independence had a lot in common – Malays were largely in the rural areas, Indian Tamils were mostly in rubber estates working as tappers, Chinese were doing business in urban areas or working in tin mines, Celyon Tamils, Malayalis and some English educated Malays were in government service and universities. The army and police though dominated by Malays, had a few Indian Tamils and Sikhs. Similar divide and rule policies had been implemented by the British, leaving the majority community in rural areas.

    Currently non-malays ( the minorities ) make up about 35% of the population. Minorities do face discriminations and ethnic riots have taken place. There were no public apologies from any party over the riots. Islam is the foremost religion and Malaysian flag has the crescent representing Islam but no other symbols to represent other religions. This was never an issue. Tamil and Mandarin are not considered National languages, and hence Tamil and Mandarin Universities are not allowed to be built here.

    Just like SL, Malaysia practices standardisation for university entry, the only difference is system practised in SL is far better, in that affirmative action is practised in favour of rural students regardless of race. Affirmative action in Malaysia is ( due to majoritarian policies ) heavily biased in favour of the Malays ( bumiputras ) regardless of whether they hail from rural or urban areas. The same affirmative policies for the majority also apply for government scholarships, contracts for government projects and entry to government jobs. Hence about 85% or more in government service today are Malays, and they occupy about 98% of the armed forces and about 90% of the police force.

    So why haven’t the non-Malays who comprise 35% of the population taken up arms to demand equal rights like the SL Tamils? Well the fact that Malaysia does not have India and China as immediate neighbours ( we have instead the worlds largest muslim nation as a neighbour ) is perhaps a reason. But there are other reasons – you see non-Malays have alternatives or options and we were pragmatic to realise that taking up arms would leave us in a far worse position. Let me explain.

    Unlike SL, Malaysia embarked on job creation though industralization very early. A visiting SL economics lecturer in the early 1970s ( a family friend ) was very unhappy upon seeing the numerous Japanese, European and American multi-national factories here – he remarked “ Take a look at this country ( ie Malaysia ), about 80% of its economy belongs to foreigners”. As if having foreigners invest here by building factories is akin to giving up the countries independence!!!

    Every time I visit SL, I’m sad to see the cars on the road, because every car, truck, bus or motorcycle in SL represents a loss of thousands of jobs. I’m told that almost 100% of vehicles on SL roads are imported ( either new or reconditioned used ones ). This contrasts sharply with Malaysia where 90% of the cars are either locally manufactured or locally assembled. The population of SL and Malaysia is only slightly smaller than Malaysia which means both countries have the same consumer base. By using tariff structures in favour of local assembly, SL could have easily encouraged car manufactures to assembly vehicles in SL and getting them to increase local content year by year. Each car has thousands of components – start by setting up factories to manufacture simple stuff first like car mats, carpets, seats, lights, rubber tubing, tyres, batteries, spark plugs etc before going into more complicated parts. The same existing distributors can be used to sell the cars.

    The same local assembly concept is applied for all other consumer products like fridges, TVs , washing machines etc. About 70% of the population of any developing country will have quit school before O-levels. These so called screw-driver factories have helped immensely to up lift the standard of living of this group. One of the first things we noticed when factories came up is the difficulty in getting domestic maids. Today you never hear of Malaysians working as maids overseas, whereas a lot of SL maids work overseas and some are abused. When 70% of the population is up-lifted, a cascade effect takes place – people buy more clothes and other consumer products, new houses etc and more businesses sprout up to cater for this demand.

    One of the first things you notice when you develop the private sector is rural – urban migration. Malaysia has been so successful in developing the private sector that our 25 million population workforce is not enough, and today we have about 2 million foreign workers in Malaysia ( mostly from Indonesia and Bangladesh ) working here legally or illegally. Over the years hundreds of Indonesians have drowned crossing the Malacca Straits in over-crowded boats, attempting to get to Malaysia illegally.

    Now the land area in SL is smaller that that of Malaysia, hence SL may not need as many foreign workers. My point is if you really develop the north and east, after some time you will find the 15% population of Tamils to be grossly inadequate to fill all the jobs there. There will be natural migration of Sinhalese to these areas, and this may be a far better thing that attempting to create instant colonies in these areas.

    Now were countries like Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand fortunate to have visionary leaders? Maybe and maybe not. In the 1960s the Vietnam war was on-going and the US believed in the Domino theory, and bodies like the World Bank may have nudged these countries to aggressively go for job creation, in the belief that if a person has a decent job he or she is less likely to be a communist rebel. The same advise would have been given to SL at that time, and it is the fault of both Sinhalese and Tamil politicians as well as Sinhalese and Tamil economic advisers of that time not to heed such advise, and encourage foreign investment and implement economic polices that did not merely rely on agriculture, textiles and tourism for growth.

    I dare say that if correct economic policies were implemented in the 1950s, 60s and 70s the two JVP riots, the LTTE uprising and even the 83 Colombo riots may never have occurred. If the rural and urban poor had decent jobs and there was a larger middle class, it would not have been so easy for either Sinhalese or Tamil politicians to recruit thugs.

    On the education front minorities here have some options. When SL created the private North Colombo Medical University, Malaysia borrowed a leaf from SL and allowed private universities to function. Today we have local and foreign private universities ( Monash , Curtin, Nottingham and even Manipal Medical College ) here. We all know what happened to the North Colombo Medical University. Additionally, because Malaysia developed fast, the strength of its currency was always much stronger with respect to foreign currencies than the SL rupee, and hence it made it more affordable for minorities to go overseas to study. That is why for many years Malaysians were often the largest overseas student group in the UK, Australia, NZ and the US.

    Attitudes of the ordinary citizen is also important. For the Jaffna Tamil, no university entrance = no good government job = end of the world. For the Malaysia Chinese, if he can’t get into a college or university and can’t afford to go overseas to study, he might for example, join a motorcycle repair shop as a junior mechanic and learn what he can while on the job. In a couple of years time, he might set up his own one man shop under a tree or a large umbrella to service motorcycles. After a few years, he’ll set up his own shop and earn far more than a graduate in government service.

    Malaysia is not perfect. There is corruption and society is polarised. During the office lunch interval, it is common to see Malays, Chinese and Indians sitting in separate tables.
    SL is fortunate that some Sinhalese and Tamils are of the same religion ie Christians. In Malaysia all Malays are Muslims, and any attempt to convert them is forbidden by law.

    Many SL Tamils feel that federalism is an answer to their problems as minorities. That has not proven to be the case in Malaysia – since time of independence, Malaysia has had 13 states with own state governments under a central Federal government. This state government system have not mitigated the discriminations mentioned above.

    Many SL Tamils also favour meritocracy when it come to university entrance and entry into government service. I disagree. It is important to realise that rural students are disadvantaged not just in the quality of facilities and teachers. A rural family or an urban squatter family may have 8 kids living in a ghetto house with parents because of poverty less interested in education and more interested in getting the kids to quit school early to contribute to the family income. Such an environment is not conducive for studies. It is very important that affirmative polices are in place for these rural folks, otherwise very serious rural – urban tensions can result. When the whole country is an urban area or city state like Singapore, then only meritocracy become feasible.

    On the political front, younger Malaysians have come to realise that the existing race based political parities can no longer effectively serve their needs and country is now in the early stages of creating multi-race political parties. The real lesson for SL is that job creation via development, ( despite or in spite of perceived or real discrimination existing with regards to language, religion, government jobs and university entrance ), can help avoid civil wars.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Thank you very much for this perspective. If you could kindly write this up as an article and send it to me at dbsjeyaraj@yahoo.com we could carry it as a separate article on Transcurrents

  57. # 63. Navin

    I guess your response is attacking the person . Hope you would take others view point as a view point.

    It may indicate though Tigerism is nearing its death bed, “Lionism” is getting active.

  58. 63. Navin

    I don’t know what kind of an animal you are.

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    Thanks for commenting on me like that. I will not retaliate for this personal affront.

    I will only think that you did what you know better.

    Thanks Brother. Comment on me for thousands of time like this.

    I will still not feel offended. Jayawewa.

  59. 65. sjoseph:

    Mahesh’s concern for Rajiv and his lack of concern for other ordinary mortals who got killed by LTTE is pathetic.
    Would not killing Rajiv make any difference after all other murders committed by LTTE? Where is the concern for humanity? The guy is talking as if Sinhalese that got butchered by LTTE were expendable lab rats. Do I need to be a lion to highlight that?.

  60. # 64. wesley

    Very constructive thoughts indeed.

    Unfortunately for Srilanka, persons like you have become Malaysian citizens.

    Srilanka could have become better than Malaysia if both the races have worked together with mutual respect for each other.

    Srilankans it appears are yet to learn from their mistakes. United they Win, Divided they Fall.

    Due to its proximity to India (Tamilnadu), cordial relationship between Sinhalese & Tamils is very important for stability & peace with in Srilanka.

  61. A Response to DBSJ / 48:

    Tamil People of Sri Lanka have to live in an undivided country. There is no reason for Tamils to argue on this thought.

    An undivided country is no anathema to Tamils. The argument is over our place in Sri Lanka.

    There is no doubt that irredeemable hardships have resulted. But to say that, ‘The LTTE has caused irredeemable harm to the Tamil people’ is naive. The culprit is our destiny you referred to. For anyone to be accused of causing harm, there ought to have been an intention of ill-will. LTTE had none.

    I share your trust and pride in the resilience of our people.

    Tamils need to adopt a pragmatic approach. A hard-line approach is not advisable.

    The Sinhala hawks are relishing the path of the Diaspora. Tamil Nadu assistance is a joke.

    Neither DBSJ or I can disown our past. Building a future on the wisdom gained from the past is the sensible move. We need to encourage our people, not criticize.

    Sinhala hawkish actions cannot be countered by continuing to advocate a separate state. Our discourse should be within a universally accepted standards of human rights, democracy and pluralism.

    The Tamil cause was honourable and reasonable.Tamils have only been resisting Sinhala domination. The roots of that struggle remain. Armed struggle commenced, as a process of resistance.

    Had LTTE not overstepped their mandate for resistance we may have had a shade of federalism by now.

    We must slowly re-build ourselves first. Our priority now is to focus on repairing and restoring our image.

    To acieve all this we have to work as a single unit and cooperate among ourselves.

    We must present our case for greater devolution in a resolute yet non-confrontational manner.

    We will have to rely on the good sense of the people and the government of Sri Lanka.

    There is no good waiting on the West or India to deliver our objectives. Tamils must settle directly with the reasonable people among Sinhalese.

    The majority of Sinhala polity must be convinced to yield, but not under pressure from inside or outside.

    The practical course to follow would be to defend federalism as a prudent middle path.

    Tamils must work together with the Sinhalese and Muslims to achieve this.

    If Tamils can unite under one umbrella then chances of cutting through the current hostility is greater.

    Our struggle will be to convince more and more Sinhalese why a unitary State as at present cannot hep peace or ensure progress in our midst.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:
    What is naive is to blame our fate alone and ignore the instrument or instruments of that fate

    The way to hell is paved with good intentions. The LTTE intentions may or may not have been “good” But the action and the consequences of those actions have caused irredeemable harm to the Tamil people

    The inability or unwillingness to accept that reality is indeed lamentable

    Being constructively critical at times is not a bad thing

    One cannot learn from the past if one is reluctant to examine it critically and see where we have gone wrong or where our self -imposed leaders went wrong

    The people who kept quiet when the LTTE was going awry or “overstepping their limits” should do some self – criticism

    If people had been as quick to offer constructive criticism to Velupillai Prabhakaran as they are to DBS Jeyaraj then perhaps the Tamils would not be in this predicament

  62. #67-navin

    Mahesh’s concern for Rajiv and his lack of concern for other ordinary mortals who got killed by LTTE is pathetic
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    Navin, You completely misunderstood what mahesh was saying and anger clouded your judgement.

    Mahesh was not showing any concern for Rajiv, He was merely stating that Quote “And the killing of the Rajiv Gandhi should have been avoided.

    That turned on the Tamils in the main land against VP and the LTTE”. unquote.

    Why are you trying to connect this to the sinhalese killed by the LTTE. What mahesh says is quite right, it was a blunder by the LTTE to oppose the Indo-Lanka Accord and to kill Rajiv. As he rightly pointed out it turned india against the LTTE.

    I would have said the same thing as mahesh, but i don’t waste my time to say the obvious things. The bloggers on this site are intelligent enough to know those blunders committed by the LTTE, but they must be quite bemused at your outburst.

    Concern for the sinhala civilians killed is one thing , but everytime someone mentions some other killings done by the LTTE to expalin a valid point and fails to mention the sinhala civilians killed, and is going to be called an animal for that then he or in my case a she might think the world is going mad.

    I don’t call anyone a animal because i love them and i consider them better than our own destructive species. As someone once said the more i see of humanity the more i love my dog.

  63. 70. shankar:

    And the killing of the Rajiv Gandhi should have been avoided.

    That turned on the Tamils in the main land against VP and the LTTE.

    Had these two things not have happened then he would have enjoyed good support in the Tamil Nadu even now.

    I don’t think I have misunderstood what Mahesh have said. His message was had LTTE not ruined its relations with the Indians regardless whatever mayhem it may have unleashed on this poor country, Indians would have sided with them and I too believe so. But no decent person would make such a comment. For instance, EU didn’t ban LTTE when it killed LK. It banned LTTE when it recklessly fired at a naval craft carrying EU peace monitors “endangering” their lives. Indians or the West, as long as LTTE does not kill or threaten their interest people are ready to support and romanticize with them. Its funny should anyone find criticizing that amusing.

  64. The way lots of people say it was foolish on the part of LTTE to kill Rajiv Ghandi there is an underline assumption that all other killings are ok. What about my brother-in-law who was killed in a human bomb blast?

  65. # 67. Navin

    Mentioning Rajiv killing as the biggest bluder by LTTE does not mean all other human lives lost in Srilankan conflict are insignificant.

    Most of the Indian Tamil’s opinion prior to Rajiv’s assasination was that, Srilankann Tamils fight for self rule is a justified cause and LTTE solidiers or rebels were fighting for freedom.

    Rajiv Gandhi acted boldly against Indian Tamils view, made efforts to bring peace in Srilanka. India lost thousands of Soldiers in this endeavour, due to the broken promises of LTTE .

    Later on GOSL betrayed too, joined hands with LTTE and asked IPKF to leave Srilanka.

    India learnt its bitter lessons with Srilanka and Indians were in deep anguish with Srilankans then, especially the Sinhalese Govt for their ingratitude and back stabbing.

    Despite the set backs to IPKF forces, some of the Indian Tamils still supported LTTE still thinking it was a freedom struggle.

    Very soon, LTTE did a Himalayan blunder and took vengence, by killing Rajiv Gandhi, in Indian soil which made majority of the Indian people alienated with LTTE and to remain indifferent towards Srilankan conflict.

    From indian point of view, a noble national leader, who made peace efforts for Srilanka was killed.

    Indians thought, Rajiv’s death was unwarranted and it was different from internal conflict related deaths with in Srilanka.

    It is a blunder..which LTTE could not justify by any reasoning, logic, principle or philosophy to convince Indians till they were militarily defeated by Srilankan forces.

  66. What DBS says at 48 is correct. But many Tamils will not accept it because they are still hurt by LTTE defeat. DBS is correct when he says MR & company are very strong & Tamils playing the fool will be demolished. In guerrilla war, one principle is not to attack the enemy when one is weak & enemy is strong. Secondly change strategy, not increase the intensity of fighting when one is loosing. Both these principles were ignored by VP & will it be ignored by Tamil’s again?

  67. 70. shankar

    the more i see of humanity the more i love my dog.

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    I would also like to love your dog.

    Thanks. I know that without me telling it, you will understand that it is a joke.

  68. DBSJ’s response to #69
    “If people had been as quick to offer constructive criticism to Velupillai Prabhakaran as they are to DBS Jeyaraj then perhaps the Tamils would not be in this predicament”

    It ‘s easy to criticize a journalist ,knowing that you are not a gun trotting group member who would order or carry out execution.That’s what silenced the vast majority of decent non violent Tamil men and women.

  69. Dear Tissaveerasingham,

    Thanks for your comment (#46). However, I don’t think worker migration to the Gulf would make much of a difference to the analysis. First, the Census does not count such persons anyway, and so the Sinhalese, Tamils, Muslims and others who had gone to the Gulf in 1981 were already left out of the count. Now it is true that worker migration did increase further in the 1980s, but it seems to have stabilized by the 2000s. Second, the numbers in my second comment (#44) which were based on the 2001 Census already reflect the impact of Gulf migration.

    I agree with you and also with DBSJ that the under-representation of ethnic Tamils in Parliament, and the woeful under-representation in the new Cabinet, is of concern and unhealthy. However, we need to be realistic about the current situation, and also about how this can be improved.

    You cite the USA, UK and SIngapore as better places. But it has to be said that in those countries most minority politicians are elected not from minority parties, but as members of main-stream parties dominated by the majority community (OK – with the exception of the Scottish and Irish ethnic groups). In the UK, most Asian or African MPs (as in the USA) are elected by predominantly white electorates (eg Barack Obama), and most electorates with large minority populations still elect white MPs (eg George Galloway in London). Yet in those countries, majority community MPs will tend to reflect the interests of their minority constituents, so minorities don’t have to depend on ethnic minority MPs for their interests.

    In the short run, I would think the real concern ought to be whether MPs reflect minority concerns, regardless of their ethnicity), and in this respect I disagree that this has to be through minority MPs alone, if this was DBSJ’s point. But I would suspect that the more that ethnic Tamil voters in the south are seen to be voting only for Tamil candidates, then the less concern non-Tamil politicians in the major parties will have with looking after their interests. For example, i would speculate that the stand-offish attitude of UNPer Ravi Karunanayake to Tamil voters – whom he usually has been quite concerned for – may be due to a belief that he no longer has anything to gain, given that they all voted for the DPF candidate.

    So, just as the Eelamist diaspora has attempted to influence politics in Canada, Norway and UK by channelling their support to mainly white MPs in mainstream parties, instead of standing their own Tamil candidates, it should not be so taboo to think that Tamil voters in the south should look to increase their influence primarily through non-Tamill parties. In this respect, the peeling off of Tamil voters from the UNP in particular I suspect has been quite damaging to the community as well as the UNP. First, it has reduced the net seats won by the UNP and ethnic Tamil groups, and second it has prevented a new generation of Tamil UNPers coming up. As DBSJ reminds, whatever happens, Sri Lankan Tamils will continue to live in Sri Lanka mostly, and side by side with the Sinhalese in the same country. Given that, it is better to integrate and fight battles for betterment from the inside rather than the outside of the political mainstream.

  70. 73. sjoseph

    t is a blunder..which LTTE could not justify by any reasoning, logic, principle or philosophy to convince Indians till they were militarily defeated by Srilankan forces.

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    Any killing is comdemnable.

    I condemn the killing of the Tamil civilians in the hands of the Sri Lankan Govt (or with its connivance) and the Sinhala goondas even as I condemn the killings of the LTTE.

    You are right. I am still not able to reason out why Rajiv Gandhi was killed. What objectives were achieved by his killing.

    At that time there was election in the India and particularly it was two elections for the Tamil Nadu.

    Tamil Nadu voted for the National Parliament and also to the state Assembly.

    I still remember the day when Rajiv was assasinated the entire town that I was staying then was full of tension.

    Prior to the Rajiv Gandhi’s assasination people were somewhat thinking that the LTTE is fighting for the legitimate rights of the Tamils.

    They are fighting for the Tamils rights, which are being suppressed by the sinhalese and also the Tamils are killed in the Sri Lanka, people thought.

    After the assasination everybody started dissociating from the LTTE and LTTE was seen as a terrorist organization.

  71. I condemn any violence.

    Be it the violence committed by the Tamils against the Sinhalese and also the Violence committed against the Tamils by the Sinhalese.

    I think the way forward will be in the direction of peace.

    Let us give peace a chance.

    Also I believe the options before the MR are limited.

    Again the whole world is looking at him.

    prior to 1983 there were many riots let leash on the Tamils.

    1983 was in response to the 13 soldiers killed by the LTTE.

    After the 1983 the whole world was looking at the Sri Lanka and therefore no killings happened in the lines of the 1983.

    The killing of the 13 soldiers was only the beginning. Sorry to use the word. But it was only the trailer. The main show, that is the killings by the LTTE happened only after that.

    The Sinhalese govt and the society didn’t react the way they did in 1983.

    Part of the reason could be that the whole world was looking at them. Probably this restrained them.

    Though the Sinhalese have won this round of war, the options before them is limited.

    The whole world is watching how they are going to handle the Tamils issue.

    The foreign govts seem to have a soft corner for the Tamils.

    This is evident from the various utterances by the various functionaries of the different nations.

    This doesn’t mean that the Tamils can take it easy. They should also strive with all earnest to achieve peace in the united sri lanka.

    NOw is the time to gather and gain strength. Gain strenght.

    DBSJi I also believe in the resilence of the Tamil race. They are very industrious race and also very intelligent people.

    You can try to use the peace to strengthen yourself and raise in the comity of the nations.

    Pursue the path of development with vengeance.

    After that let us see what happens.

    So MR has to tread carefully. He is a shrewd politician and I hope he will do a good balance walk.

    MR has a good oppurtunity. He could solve the problem once and for ever.

    I wish him all the best.

  72. #71
    Dear Navin, please hold back your rancor against Mahesh. Even if someone supports LTTE that does not necessarily mean, he/she is stamping LTTE’s inhuman acts unleashed against the Sinhalas or Tamils or Muslims or its own cadres. In this instance Mahesh was trying to highlight LTTE’s blind acts of commissions and omissions.

    Nevertheless, where is the SL Naval Soldier who tried to blindly hit Rajiv Gandhi on his head during the Guard of Honour in 1987. If that Soldier’s hit had seriously injured or killed Rajiv on that day in 1987 we won’t be discussing today like this way.

    But for few SL politicians/Diplomats, I find both Sinhalese and Tamils in SL are at the extremes – either naïve or ruthless. Less temper would be good for all of us (I am an Indian). Even if somebody has hurt you with words hold back and pause – the chances that both of you can reconcile and lead a better life than getting enraged at those words and going after him or her.

    I am sorry; my intent is not advice, but requesting a slightly conciliatory tone from you after another blogger highlighted that Mahesh’s real intent is not what you understood.

    #64

    Though I agree with the observations, I do not entirely agree with current trends of the elite world that is trying to fix a Political problem with economic incentives. It works in many instances but not in all instances.

    That works fine in Malaysia because those Indians/Srilankans who live in that country do not go around saying that Malaysia is their homeland for hundreds (or thousands) of years. In SL, the story is different; Tamils have ethnic roots for hundreds (or thousands) of years.

    Yet, I will be extremely happy if economic prosperity can black-out ethnic troubles.

    #48

    DBSJ Sir,

    I find tons of Honesty, Sincerity, Understanding, in your prescribed approach to find a reasonable solution to the suffering brothers and sisters in North-East. Nothing More, Nothing Less.

    #73
    Many SL folks think that India’s position was initially to side with LTTE … and then shift to SL Govt when it is inconvenient for the Indian Govt. But the Indian Government’s stand will always be and always was, that if a Tamil Eelam is formed in the Border as a break-away nation from SL Territory, that Tamil Eelam will be a Threat to Unity of India. So the Govt. of India will strain every nerve to see that an Independent Tamil Eelam is never formed at all. At best, the Govt. of India will allow a Federal Solution and not beyond that. Atleast two Srilankans understood this very well – Jayawardane and MR.

    Every other act of Government of India is to hoodwink the Tamils in Tamil Nadu. My friends in SL (all communities) should realize this and not to be carried away by acts of commissions and omissions of Government of India. It is plain and ugly politics.

  73. # 71. Navin

    “had LTTE not ruined its relations with the Indians regardless whatever mayhem it may have unleashed on this poor country, Indians would have sided with them and I too believe so. But no decent person would make such a comment”

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    If GOSL could side with LTTE while IPKF was still fighting LTTE in srilanka (after all mayhem unleashed ), what was wrong when some Indian Tamils siding with LTTE ?

    Do you think LTTE was a perfect , non violent movement while GOSL joined hands with LTTE?

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  74. 80. Gbsganesan

    Nevertheless, where is the SL Naval Soldier who tried to blindly hit Rajiv Gandhi on his head during the Guard of Honour in 1987. If that Soldier’s hit had seriously injured or killed Rajiv on that day in 1987 we won’t be discussing today like this way.

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    Well said Sir.

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    Indian Government’s stand will always be and always was, that if a Tamil Eelam is formed in the Border as a break-away nation from SL Territory, that Tamil Eelam will be a Threat to Unity of India. So the Govt. of India will strain every nerve to see that an Independent Tamil Eelam is never formed at all. At best, the Govt. of India will allow a Federal Solution and not beyond that.

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    Again hats off to you Sir.

    This does not mean that India will be a mute spectator for the killings of the Tamils in SL.

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    Anybody and everybody should condemn violence from any quarters.

    I had the moral conviction to do that. I Condemned the violence from both the sides, the Tamil side as well as the Sinhalese side.

    I don’t know whether the person who used abusive language against me has the same conviction to condemn the killings and atrocities let loose on the Tamils by the Sri Lankan govt and the Sinhalese goodas?

  75. 72. Soma

    I feel sorry for your Brother – in -Law.

    I can only pray to God to bless your Sister and her children.

    The more this problem pesters the more tragic it will be for all.

    No more blood letting in your island nation, I wish.

    It is a no win game. This is a lose-lose game.

    Lasting peace is the most desired thing for all times.

    It is the win – win game. Let us play this win-win game.

    I wish no more violence in your island nation.

    I take leave from you my friend with a heavy heart.

    Bye for now.

  76. 81. sjoseph:

    Well, had SL been powerful enough to defend its interests against aggression by India and LTTE, it would not have had to strike deals with either one of them, isn’t it? Unlike India, SL doesn’t have the muscle to say clearly that we will not negotiate with terrorists no. So we have to listen to every tom, dick and harry in the world and do war, peace and more war. Hence I do not see the parallel between this particular incident and indifference displayed towards Sri Lankans by people living in relative safety.

  77. # 86. Navin

    If all of GOSL actions in this conflict are justified, then what ever LTTE did and dispora doing now are fully justified.

    Perhaps Srilankan Tamils know their country men, the Sinhalese better…

  78. 72. Soma | April 26th, 2010 at 4:43 am
    The way lots of people say it was foolish on the part of LTTE to kill Rajiv Ghandi there is an underline assumption that all other killings are ok. What about my brother-in-law who was killed in a human bomb blast
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    I don’t know how there is a underlying assumption when someone is referring to one topic, the fact that he does not refer to another one makes him callous to innocent civilians being killed. Look at it always as seperate subjects to discuss,otherwise we will turn this blog into a acharu.

    With regard to your brother inlaw this is the mistakes that LTTE made that gave it the label of a terrorist organisation. If they wanted to be genuinely considered as freedom fighters by the rest of the world, then they should have refrained from killing innocent civilians.

    There is another factor which is the wrath of god. We all have to pay off our debts either in this birth or next. See what happenned to all the LTTE leadership.

  79. #88. shankar | April 27th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    Thanks for your words:

    “If they wanted to be genuinely considered as freedom fighters by the rest of the world, then they should have refrained from killing innocent civilians.”

    Prescisely. Not that they should have refrained from killing Rajiv Ghandi.

  80. 64. wesley

    Well said Sir.

    But I also differ with you when you say that the economic development could be a solution to this problem.

    It might help to a certain extent.

    Again think of the Sikh problem the India faced in the 80’s.

    The Sikhs were one of the wealthiest, powerful and respected people in the India.

    Then still there was problem with them.

    Thank God now it is over.

    So I beg to differ that economic advancement could be a solution to any problem.

    I can’t accept fully. Partly yes.

  81. I wanted to share two things on this thread.. especially after reading some of the sane replies:

    This is what should be done
    By one who is skilled in goodness,
    And who knows the path of peace:
    Let them be able and upright,
    Straightforward and gentle in speech.
    Humble and not conceited,
    Contented and easily satisfied.
    Unburdened with duties and frugal in their ways.
    Peaceful and calm, and wise and skillful,
    Not proud and demanding in nature.
    Let them not do the slightest thing
    That the wise would later reprove.
    Wishing: In gladness and in saftey,
    May all beings be at ease.
    Whatever living beings there may be;
    Whether they are weak or strong, omitting none,
    The great or the mighty, medium, short or small,
    The seen and the unseen,
    Those living near and far away,
    Those born and to-be-born,
    May all beings be at ease!

    Let none deceive another,
    Or despise any being in any state.
    Let none through anger or ill-will
    Wish harm upon another.
    Even as a mother protects with her life
    Her child, her only child,
    So with a boundless heart
    Should one cherish all living beings:
    Radiating kindness over the entire world
    Spreading upwards to the skies,
    And downwards to the depths;
    Outwards and unbounded,
    Freed from hatred and ill-will.
    Whether standing or walking, seated or lying down
    Free from drowsiness,
    One should sustain this recollection.

    — The Buddha

    ================

    VELLAI POOKAL

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knubvDUdurM

    VeLLai PookaL ulagam engum malarhavae
    vidiyum Bhoomi amaidhikaaga vidihavae
    manmel manjal veluchcham vizhuhavae
    malarae sombal muRiththu ezhuhavae

    Let White Flowers bloom all over the world.
    Let the waking earth, wake for Peace.
    Let the yellow light fall on earth.
    Let the flower wake up leisurely.

    kuzhanthai vizhikattumae
    Thaayin katha kathappil
    ulagam vidiyattuma
    piLLayin sirumugha siRippil

    in child’s small smile.
    Let the child wake up
    In mother’s warmth.
    Let the world wake up
    in child’s small smile.

    kaatrin perisaiyum
    [mazhai paadum paadangalum
    Oru maunam poal inbam tarumooOO
    koadi keertanamum kavi koartha vaarthaiygalum
    thuLi kaNNer poal arththam tharumo

    The air’s loud music
    The Songs of Rain
    Doesn’t give the pleasure as Silence.
    Crores of Songs and the wordings of a poet
    Doesn’t give the meaning of a tear drop.

    yengusiru kuzhanthai than kaigal neetidumo
    angu thondrayo koLLai nilavae
    enghu manidha Inam poar oyinthu sayinthidumo
    angu koovadho veLLai kuyilae

    Where the small kid points his hand
    Won’t you appear there..O Moon?
    Where the human kind gets fed up of War and takes rest
    Won’t you sing there, O white Cuckoo!

    TO ALL THE DIASPORA WHO WANT WAR AGAIN – THINK HARD AND DEEP ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!

  82. I’m amazed by the extent DBS has dissected the results. He has touched upon almost all candidates of different parties and has given a background of each district with calculation.

    It’s further amazing that all this was done from away in Canada.

    I wonder how many journalists on Sri Lankan soil could ever analyze election results like this in depth and in a balanced perspective.

    All what we see and hear are gossip along the corridors of power by local journalists.

  83. 92. Kanavu

    Thanks for the posting.

    The Vairamuthu’s words…. I don’t have anything to say about them.
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    63. Navin

    Navin. I have condemned violence both originating from the LTTE and also from the Sinhalese side.

    Do you do the same or you will only selectively condemn the violence committed by the LTTE.

    I request your reply for this.

    This is a direct question for you.

    Thank you.

  84. It is very obvious, those who win in the election will be part of the government, whether it is UNP or SLFP. It is definitely not a spineless move; it is the need for the community. If they can get the most out of the government for betterment of the people by supporting the government, it is the best approach. And it worked (most of the time) so far for up country Tamils. I studied in up country for a year. It was amazing to see all upcountry Tamils (closer to my age group and younger) is fluent in Tamil and Sinhala. They are very hard working people. It is very healthy that they are now investing more into their children education & future. They are very hard working people and some may not afford all the way. They should stick together and send as much as possible to parliament to represent them. And their political representative must understand and committed to work for their future.

    64. wesley
    It is good to know how Malaysia doing an amazing job. Singapore and Malaysia are very amazing countries and their leaders are always been very futuristic.

    Well after reading your article, I couldn’t able to compare as you can:
    If Singapore was not separated in 1965, what would have happened to Malaysia? I think then PM Rahman separated Singapore to avoid further bloodshed. Both Chinese and Indians were part of the minorities. May be not with Indians but with Chinese, how strict Malays can go. Malaysian Tamils were brought by British from India. But Sri Lankan Tamils, it is the home. My understanding is our Hill country Tamils are more obedience to the Sri Lanka state compare to Malaysian Tamils/Chinese.

    If the minorities’ communities are migrants it is bit easier. In Sri Lanka both Shinhala and Tamil have equal rights to the Island., Yes, economical policies may help unit the communities to an extend, but I think a solid political policy/agreement is a MUST for Sinhalese and Tamils to live in peace and to prosper. Because no one can guarantee there won’t be any riots (like the one in 1915,1956,1958,1958, 1977, 1981, 1983) even if you are a good hearted Sinhalese, what is the grantee your great grand son won’t do this to Tamil.

  85. DBSJ, Your response to #48 was wonderful and felt it represents my postion all these time and subdued by all our tamil foreign diaspora. Excellent writing by you.

  86. #90-Soma

    LTTE had already got an image as a terrorist organisation even before the Rajiv Ghandhi killings. When they embarked on this Eelam project they should have clearly identified their strategies and which path to go. If there was a fork on the road and the left path said terrorist and right one said freedom fighter , then they should have taken the right and avoided killing innocent civilians. You can’t have the cake and eat it.If they coundn’t care a fig for their image then they would take the left path which they did. I believe this happenned because Prabhaharan overestimated the power of the human missiles at his command. He himself would not in his wildest dreams become one, but because he had this almost inexhaustible supply people who were willing to throw their lives away, he felt could achieve anything he wanted. Unfortunately your brother inlaw as well as Rajiv Ghandhi also became a victim to this senseless tragedy. As you rightly pointed out your brother inlaw is not any less a human being than rajiv, but the killing of Rajiv had far greater ramifications for the LTTE, which is an indisputable fact. When someone points that out he or she should not be vilified, because it is a valid point. That was my point.

  87. Hi DBSJ, Your response to #69 was really good one.
    It also reflect my position.This diaspora never learn.
    Most of them got this attitude…

    ” Dear DBSJ,

    Don’t underestimate anyone. FYI, I am an IT professional. Let me try what I can do for you. Be vigilent you thrid class boy”.

    I could not believe this.

  88. One other thing I would like to point out…

    Prabhakaran’s mother. Those who were looking after her thought she had no place in Sri Lanka. So she was then taken to India, only to be unceremoniously sent off. Then she was taken to Malaysia which is apparently also going to reject her within a few weeks. And then Canada is also not happy to issue a visa…

    ….and so she is going to be taken BACK TO SRI LANKA which will accept her, just as it did before. This is HOME.

    No other country is going to “save” SRI LANKAN Tamils. Not India, not Malaysia, not USA, not UK and NOT EVEN INDIAN TAMILS.

    Singhalese and SL Tamils have to learnt to live in the island together. There is no choice in the matter. No one really cares about the Singhalese or the Tamils. We are not the centre of the world. The world does not revolve around us. We are not special in the eyes of the world. We are just people living on a little island in the sea. The world moves on, each country has its own problems to deal with… if we don’t help ourselves NO ONE ELSE WILL.

    NOW THAT WAR HAS ENDED, NOW IS THE TIME TO GIVE A BREATH OF FRESH OF AIR TO LONG SUFFERING PEOPLE.

    IT IS NOT THE TIME TO WASTE ON PLOTTING ELABORATE PLANS TO KILL AND RE-START WAR!!

    DON’T WASTE THIS OPPORTUNITY. ..

    I HONESTLY BELIEVED I WOULD DIE BEFORE SEEING PEACE IN SRI LANKA….

    BRING YOUR CHILDREN TO SEE VANNI AND JAFFNA… LET THEM SEE WHERE YOU GREW UP…HELP IT TO DEVELOP, HELP IT GROW….

    DON’T DESTROY IT FURTHER….

    LET THE FLOWER WAKE UP LEISURELY…

  89. 91 Mahesh

    Its not just economic advancement but “Some what equitable” economic advancement that does the trick.
    Thats where affirmative action helps, but its not easy to implement without abuse.

    If a section of the populatin is wealthier than the rest (specialy a racial group) then it spells trouble. eg Indonesian chinese in 1997.

  90. # 100. Kanavu

    I believe Pirabakaran’s mother was refused to enter India, to send a clear signal to Srilankan Tamils, that India is not willing to entertain Srilankan Tamils who may pose trouble in India.

    The Presence of Pirabakaran;,s mother might have created some tension in Tamilnadu due to Pro LTTE supporters. India however does not suppress their own citizens, though they work against India’s interests by supporting Pro Eelam groups.. Instead they refuse admission to those who may create trouble.

  91. 100 Kanavu

    Well said. Even I never thought peae will come to SL in my life time. Though it is not perfect we must give a peace a chance and develop this country for all of us to live happily and hand over to the next generation, as a prosperous island.As you correctly stated disapora tamils should visit SL and the north and east and help your relatives to lift their living standard.

    By the way, another thing that happened in my life time, and never thought it would, is a black American becoming the President of USA. Also Nelson Mandela’s release from prison.

  92. 80. Gbsganesan
    There are 8 member countries in SAARC. Most of them are small independent countries around India.
    Those are not problem to India. Actually Bangaladesh became as a liberated nation with the help of India.
    Once there was Tamil Eelam supporter’s conference conducted by M.Karunanithi in Madurai.I thing in late 1980’s
    All the political parties of India take part in that conference except ADMK.
    That might be because of local political enmity.
    At that time all Political parties of India were supportive of the independent Tamil Eelam.
    Changing is the only universal Truth.
    So I hope India will realize Independent Eelam is the only practical alternative while considering deteriorating Human right situation in the Island.
    UN is interested on the Human right situation in the Island.
    Recognizing the independent eelam state as first is actually difficult for India.
    India has to Follow UN in this urgent humanitarian matter.
    Parathy

  93. 101. Bman

    You may be right Sir. What we are talking is Social Science and there could be ‘n’ number of views and all the ‘n’ number of views could be correct.

    The reason behind the spurt of the Maoist violence in India is this skewed growth. Therefore the Prime Minister and others are now talking more about affirmative action and the inclusive growth.

    Your observation is also very valid. I accept them unhesitatingly.

    NAVIN.

    YOU ARE YET TO ANSWER A QUESTION FROM ME. IT WAS A POINTED QUESTION FOR YOU.

  94. 100. Kanavu
    You said
    “Prabhakaran’s mother. Those who were looking after her thought she had no place in Sri Lanka. So she was then taken to India, only to be unceremoniously sent off. Then she was taken to Malaysia which is apparently also going to reject her within a few weeks. And then Canada is also not happy to issue a visa…”
    “….and so she is going to be taken BACK TO SRI LANKA which will accept her, just as it did before. This is HOME.”
    I want to relate another account Mr.C. Chandrahasan fled to India Then in another turning India forcefully extradited him to America. He was able to come back to India so Kanavu, your Hypothesis is falsified.
    And you said
    “No other country is going to “save” SRI LANKAN Tamils. Not India, not Malaysia, not USA, not UK and NOT EVEN INDIAN TAMILS.”
    This is true. But for atleast Eelam Tamils UN is having the responsibility and right to protect that threatened nation.
    Parathy

  95. 38. Vimukthi | April 24th, 2010 at 4:13 am
    I agree with DBS

    Some are defining Racism wrongly. If their defiition is extended one marrying from the same ethnicity is also racism
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    It depends on the mindset before the act, not the act itself. If a tamil had a choice before him, to vote for a tamil or a sinhalese and he chose the tamil candidate because
    1. because he was a tamil just like him-that is not racism. It is something due to a common bond between them, which is their ethnicity.

    2. because he felt that a sinhalese candidate is inferior to thye tamil because of his ethnicity-that is racism.

    3. because he felt the tamil candidate will do a better job, because he compared the two and felt that he was more suitable for the job-not racism

    The same criteria can be applied to marriage too. If the ethnicity was the deciding factor because you felt that the people of other ethnicities are inferior, then that is racism. If you selected your own ethnicity because you felt the culture, religion, food etc is more compatiblee and as such would reduce any future problems in the marriage, then that is not racism.

    The mindset where you view others as inferior or yourself as superior, is more important than the act itself.

  96. ___________________________
    ” Dear DBSJ,
    Don’t underestimate anyone. FYI, I am an IT professional. Let me try what I can do for you. Be vigilent you thrid class boy”.
    _____________________________________

    I think it is some comment from a misguided youngster. May be he is trying to attack the website.

    Some people are like that. Facts are stranger than Fiction.

    I think anyone interested in Peace and harmony should not disturb this forum. DBSJ has done a great service to the community by means of this forum

  97. Next to Sampathan, Ganeshan was the biggest fan of the LTTE. leader Prabakaran.

    Ranil used both to stitch up Fonseka and save his skin to continue in the leadership.

    Tamil people in Colombo must form a separate party to represent their aspirations.I am sure there are enough voters in Colombo to win a few seats for a new party rather than going behind Ranil, who is only interested in his own welfare.

    A progressive new Tamil party which dissociates itself from the Tiger dream of Eelam can easily achieve parliamentary representation for its people in Colombo where the majority of Tamils reside now

    I am sure such a party will be most welcome by Rajapaksa to help him bring prosperity and harmony to all Srilankans living in the country.

    Such a party will also be attractive to the well off Sinhalese especially the Christian elite who are anti Rajapaksa, but are fed up with backing Ranil.

  98. # 104. Parathy
    At that time all Political parties of India were supportive of the independent Tamil Eelam. Changing is the only universal Truth.

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    I agree.

    Countries around will change their stand on Eelam aligned to the political scenario and people’s sentiments in their country.

    As long as Srilankan Tamils continue to demand for independant Eelam or their political rights in Srilanka, there will be either Pro or Anti Eelam support from India and/or western countries according to the political polarisation in their country.

  99. #103-marusira

    By the way, another thing that happened in my life time, and never thought it would
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    I hope in your lifetime AlQueda won’t have a nuclear bomb.

    The oil rig that sank in the gulf of mexico is suspicious.

    The biggest problem to the world in the future is going to be Al Queda. Prabaharan is no Osama. He was a sprat in comparision.

  100. I forgot to say many tamils and sinhalese felt that they were safe in the west, while the war was going on in Srilanka. Now that the war is over they better go back. Dying in a nuclear bomb blast is like winning the biggest mega prize ever in a lottery.

  101. 103-marusira

    is a black American becoming the President of USA
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    Blackish white american

  102. Tamils voting for Singhalese?

    Singhalese voting for Tamils?

    When Tamils vote for the Singhalese leader like Colombo do the Singhalese leaders rais there voice for Tamil?

    When a member selected by the both community he will not act as a racist in the political arena

    However if that leader start behaving toward one side then what should those Tamils/Singhalese will do?

    If Tamils vote for Tamils so the Singhalese how to harmonies the two leaders

    How TNA can win the Singhalese heart? (Since now TNA means LTTE for Singhalese)

    No one can deny that many majority parties uses the racism trump in the election to get votes (eg Wimal etc..)

    Our leaders are still not matured enough to look after other community do they?

    Divided vote will create further problem in the county True

    Then what is the alternative?

  103. 110. sjoseph
    IF we are demanding Eelam, World might polarised as pro or anti Eelam supporters. I agree with you,
    If GOSL is adamant to give Eelam, We should be ready to accept that. that is my point.
    You know what happened in Thelungana dispute. Actor Siranjeevi demanded Thelunghana as a separate state and organized
    mass demonstrations. When the union government was ready to give their demand, He ran away as a coward. Many people fought for independent Eelam is now in GOSL .I found nothing wrong in this. If the GOSL is prepared to recognize the independent Eelam,
    All should be ready to accept that. Sould not behave like Actor Siranjeevi. That is my ambition.
    Parathy

  104. Kandasamy,s comments under 114 raises some interesting points.

    Tamils in Srilanka must make a clean break from the Eeelam politics.That means any politicians who barracked for the Tigers should be left out in the current political environment if the Tamil community want to move forward.

    People like Sampathan and Ganeshan who change like the Chameleon will never be acceptable to the Sinhala majority.

    There are good leaders like Douglas, Karuna and many others who steadfastly stood up to the Tigers and wanted to work for the betterment of their people.These people never receive any kind words in these columns.Dosnt this say something about the mentality that still exists in the pro Tiger diaspora as well as some in Colombo?

    Politicians world wide play the racist card to win elections.It is not only confined to Srilanka.

    What stops the people getting agitated by racism or anything else is the standard of living. If one has a job, a place to live and a family to look after. he or she is not going to go behind any politician to destroy public property and kill innocent people.

    Finally we have a President who is determined to bring the standard of living of Srilankans to a descnt level that the people can be moved away from impulsive erratic behaviour at the urging of small minded scum politicians.

    Sampathan openly said in the election manifeso that he was going fo ask people to do Hartals and civil disobedience.I So why drag Wimal in to this?

    There is a clear alternative.

    Make Srilanka a prosperous country where people have equal opportunities,equal rights and freedom to live and let live peacefully and harmoniously in any part of the country.

    How hard is for the leaders of the opposition parties to make this simple declaration and help to achieve these aims?

  105. #104 – Parathy


    Once there was Tamil Eelam supporter’s conference conducted by M.Karunanithi in Madurai.I thing in late 1980’s
    All the political parties of India take part in that conference except ADMK.
    That might be because of local political enmity.
    At that time all Political parties of India were supportive of the independent Tamil Eelam.
    Changing is the only universal Truth.

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    What may be true is that many Political Parties in India were supportive of the Independent Tamil Eelam. But neither the Indian Diplomacy nor India was expressing such an intent either explicitly or implicitly.

    M Karunanidhi organized and collected funds and distributed it to various militant movements at that time but LTTE refused to take money from M Karunanidhi whereas it took the money from MGR.

    Rajiv was then PM busy drafting peace agreements with many militant movements within India – in Assam, in Gorkhaland, in Punjab – and also in Sri Lanka. In those days, a young PM like Rajiv with his Charisma was able carry many people but he never was able to deliver much. Except for Gorkhaland all his agreements failed. In fact he antagonized Sikhs so much that he did not give respect to any Sikh. Then the President of India was a Sikh (Giani Zail Singh); even the President didn’t get due respect from this PM!

    1. Rajiv announced austerity measure in 1988 due to drought situation in the country and cut so many petty expenses but spent Rs15crore of Tax payer’s money to go to Canada (as reported by a section of Press during those days) to attend Commonwealth Conference.
    2. When a journalist questioned Rajiv about the Questions raised by India’s famous Lawyer Mr. Ram Jethmalani – Rajiv retorted saying that he need not have to answer every barking dog. What an arrogant reply!
    3. Similarly when India’s Foreign Secretary (or Pak Envoy) had said X (I don’t remember the news item), Rajiv said Y. When a journalist questioned Rajiv about the differences in statements – Rajiv said “You will meet a new Foreign Secretary. The Foreign Secretary in reference was AP. Venkateswaran. At any level, this was an Outrageous Statement by then PM!

    All along Rajiv behaved like an Emperor and a dictator during those days. Though he drafted many agreements I believe he was never sincere about those agreements. Rajiv never liked Prabhakaran resisting Indo Srilanka peace accord – I think the accord was drafted to pre-empt US having a Naval base in Srilanka and not with an intent supporting tamils or Tamil militancy. If someone tells me that the additional intent was to protect tamil lives, I will consider that as a joke and laugh it away. I respect our defense forces of their restrained operation in SL in 1987 and salute them with a Jai Hind! But our diplomats and Politicians had other ideas and so I wish ill for all of them.

    From holding 80% of parliament seats in 1984 Rajiv was down below 40 % of seats and lost the hold on the masses and the Power he wielded. Clearly the slide was evident; late eighties saw the rise of BJP and simultaneously OBC mobilization in the North, West & Central India. Due to changing mindset of the people the Govt formed in 1989 was not strong enough to continue and last full term. So a section of the Indians started hoping that atleast congress under Rajiv will give a stable government. Sensing this, Rajiv played some dirty politics and attempted to come back to power by pulling down a Govt which he supported for narrow gains.

    At that time in 1991 not many Indians thought Rajiv as a great leader or a nice leader. Nevertheless he was considered by many people as the only leader who can run a Govt lasting full term.

    May be Prabhakaran had thought that the return of Rajiv to power may harm his dream of creating Tamil Eelam. The mistake here is not many people (including Prabhakaran) understand India’s Civil Service, its Governance structure, its diplomacy and their legacy at all. Whether Rajiv or some X or Y, Govt of India will not encourage Tamil Eelam formation.

    Also Prabhakaran’s nature is different, that he liked weapons and was apolitical (and so he misread the situation)– as mentioned by a former Indian Diplomat M.K.Bhadrakumar in one of his articles in rediff.com where he had shed crocodile tears for Eelam Tamils.

    Let us come to this day.

    My stand is that Eelam or No Eelam should be a collective decision of Tamils living in Srilanka and no Indian Tamil should influence SL Tamils or misdirect them. TNA should speak to Advani, Gadkari, Sitaram Yechury, Venkaih Naidu and request them to pay a visit to North east of Srilanka. TNA need not have to trust any Indian Politicians but should not hesitate to engage them. TNA needs bargaining power, and a visit by Mr. Advani will give them that power.

    Tamil Nadu Tamils should be united and work towards protecting the lives, the property of Tamils in SL, irrespective of the Political situation in SL.

    Sinhalese in Srilanka seem to have some hatred reserved for Indians and particularly seem to hate Tamils in India. So, somebody should try to dilute this hatred feeling in them. Sinhala feeling may be because India is geographically big and may appear to behave like a big brother. (Save one incident, this feeling is very evident in many forums and incidents; that positive incident was when Azhar led a combined Indo-Pak cricket Team to SL when Australians refused to play in SL citing security reasons. Arjuna ranatunge thanked Azhar profusely for this gesture).

    I, as an Indian think otherwise. SL has achieved a very high literacy percentage; and for the best part of last few decades SL per capita income is higher than that of India despite having so many troubles in that country which a very commendable feat indeed.

    SL was the first country that made a woman as a head of the State. I salute them for this.

    A SL lady (Susanthika) Won an Olympic Medal and is the only athlete in the last few decades to do so from this region (PT Usha did not win an Olympic Medal though she got bigger Media coverage).

    There are so many feathers in the SL cap and they need not have to worry about India’s size and presence. They should concentrate on their strengths.

    But today Srilankans appear to have trapped in triumphlist mindset. Srilankans do not seem to care for their own countrymen Tamils (let alone countrymen- human beings in their vicinity). This is seriously bad. They have to move forward in solving the ethnic differences. It takes time and seriously that time is ticking very fast. If the time runs out the wind will change and so now is the time to act.

  106. Comment 111 Shanker,

    Where did you find your definition of black and white people ?

    Any mixed race in the West is non white.You are insulting a great man who became the Head of the United States against all odds.

    What has AlQueda got to do with Srilanka?

    Muslim people have been living in harmony with the Sinhalese for a long time.I don,t think AQ has any axe to grind there.

    103 Marusira made a valid point.

  107. having read some comments about raciay motivated voting – yes and no. I met a constabe in Trinco and he told me that he wi vote for Punchiniame and last sentance was ‘eya sinhala ne’ he is a singhalese. We wi have this thinking whether the voter is singhalese, tami or musim.I woud agree that at that point the act would be racial. however in some cases the vote is based on merit and personal charisma.
    I woud disagree with anyone who saya that al votes a tamil lawmaker gets is from tamils, or that al tamils would vote for atami mp. the same for other races too.
    It is this thinking ‘ all tamils should vote for a tamil’ that caused some of the issues of the past. even kadirgamas death. – ‘those who work with a sinhaese govt are trators’.
    I disagree with this papaer on representation by races. The way forward is merit of a person irrespective of race or religion.
    I would even go to the extent of banning racialy named parties. I wonder if many of those who comment here who live in western countries would come across parties with names as , Black American national party, or Hispanic front, or All american Indian Tamil party . It would be interesting to hear if any names like what I have mentioned above would be considered racial and cause legal issues.
    cheers.

  108. # 118. Kalu Albert

    What has AlQueda got to do with Srilanka?

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    If Al Queda has nothing to do with Srilanka, one should not highlight the dangers posed by AlQueda?

  109. # 118. Kalu Albert

    Muslim people have been living in harmony with the Sinhalese for a long time.I don,t think AQ has any axe to grind there

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    You are linking Muslims and Al-Queda here. Are you not insulting muslims? You explicitly state in this blog Islam supports violence. It is a regretful statement.

  110. # 119. dilshanf
    I would even go to the extent of banning racialy named parties

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    How about banning racially named people’s name.. ..country flag…town name..etc…etc…

  111. #119 Dilshan F

    The constable saying he is voting for punchinilame because he is a sinhalese does not mean he is racist. If you had asked him why don’t you want to vote for a tamil, and if he says, i don’t like tamils, or says tamils will only help their people, not us, then it is racist because he considers tamils as inferior or low types. So it is not the act itself, but the mindset before the act that counts. So you have to probe a bit further into their mind to see whether they are racists. This constable may be a guy when working, strictly deals with tamils and sinhalese alike, or even a guy who likes tamils but votes for a sinhalese because he has a sense of affinity to him due to a common ethnic identity.

    The human mind is the most complex thing in this world. Many people can’t even understand their own minds, let alone others, so cannot jump to conclusions too easily.

    I think you are right that western countries ban parties with racial names, and wisely so. TNA and SLMC should be told to change their names. TNA can call itself the MYP-Modern Youth Party. SLMC can call itself DAP-Death to America Party.

  112. 123 shankar,

    I work with all races and peoples. All have the same problems and joys, i can never get myself to have a common ethnic identiy. probably I am a misfit in society.

    Having an ethnic affinity .. no i dont think thats right.

    having said that the world is not perfect and neither am i.

    cheers.

  113. It would be interesting to hear if any names like what I have mentioned above would be considered racial and cause legal issues.

    In the UK you have the Scottish National Party, Plaid Cymru and a Cornish Nationalist party; in Spain you have a Basque Nationalist Party and a Catalan Convergence and an Andalucian Party.

  114. #116-kalu albert

    Make Srilanka a prosperous country where people have equal opportunities,equal rights and freedom to live and let live peacefully and harmoniously in any part of the country
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    Why didn’t the leaders of the country follow your advice from 1947 to 1983. Pity we missed the bus.

  115. Any mixed race in the West is non white
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    Is that so? That is for administrative purposes. The fact that Obama never saw his father except possibly once, was brought up by his white mum and white grandparents is immaterial i suppose. Haven’t you heard of a coconut.

    If you think that it is correct to call mixed race as black what about the african americans who are not mixed. Why put them in the same category as Obama. Why not call them pure black without the preservatives.

    I was only joking. Marusira is quite right according to the american classification. Obama is always referred to as black, but we must use our common sense. In south america they are called mulatto and are the highest ethnic group. America too will become like that one day.

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    What has AlQueda got to do with Srilanka
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    Nothing. Where was srilanka mentioned by me. I was just making a point to marusira that he may have a few more surprises in his lifetime. In my lifetime i want to see Srilanka part of the developed world. Can it be done? i believe so, if we don’t make any more mistakes.

  116. # 119. dilshanf
    “I would even go to the extent of banning racialy named parties”

    How about a racially named country and a racially inclined constitution, it will be a good start.

  117. DBSJ – EXCELLENT RESPONSE TO
    #48. Mahesh | April 24th, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    THESE ARE THE VERY BASIC COMMEN SENSIBLE ACT’TIONS/MOVES OR WHATEVER YOU NAME IT – THE TAMILS NEED TO TAKE .

    LIKE YOUR “DIASPORA IDIOTS” – COULDN’T FIND A BETTER NAME.

    LIKE YOU SAID – THESE DIASPORA IDIOTS ARE GETTING CONFRONTATIONAL AND THAT CAN ONLY HARM ANY PERCIVABLE POSSIBILITY OF HARMONY FOR TAMILS LIVING IN SL.

    ONCE AGAIN – WELL SAID……………..

  118. Comment 126 Shanker

    I am glad that you acknowledged my good intentions at least in thought about the citizenry of my beloved motherland.

    How many Abraham Lincolns did America have for 200 years.

    At last now we have one who can make a difference to the country and the people.

    But the sad part is that the affluent sector of the society and their foreign masters are the ones who have been working overtime to finish him off.

    Look at the two leaders they have been backing to the hilt. Are you surprised that we did not have leaders who had the mind set that you mentioned for the last 6 decades.?

  119. Comment 120 SJoseph

    You got it all wrong sunshine.

    Your spin to my comments is totally different to my thoughts and my intentions.

  120. # 126. shankar
    Why didn’t the leaders of the country follow your advice from 1947 to 1983. Pity we missed the bus.
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    What about the buses later on?

  121. 130-kalu Albert

    But the sad part is that the affluent sector of the society and their foreign masters are the ones who have been working overtime to finish him off.
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    Why are you so flabbergasted. haven’t you heard “uneasy lies the head that wears the crown”. If you look at sinhalese history you will see that many kings have been poisoned by there own queens and kasyappa even buried alive his father. So when you have power you have to expect this. mahinda already survived one overthrow from within. If ranil and foreign countries were not there trying to overthrow him someone else will fill the vacuum. If you look at sinhalese history you can’t even trust your own brothers. This is the price you have to pay when you have power. Someone will always wait for an opportunity to take it away from you , hence the cliche, uneasy lies the head with the crown. Nothing to make a fuss about.

    The only way to survive

    1. be vigilant and don’t trust anybody, not even your shadow.

    2. Work hard for the people and become more and more popular.

    3. Don’t make unnecessary enemies, and try to have as many friends and allies as possible.

  122. 128 Royce,

    Why not live in Malaysia? Lot of ethnic groups there. Bhoomiputra exclusivity too. How about a eelam there!!
    The name Sri Lanka is not singhalese as DBS says in Tamil it would be ‘elangai’ or something in tamil.

    Shame on you to even say a name of a country is racially inclined.

    Its people like you who brought the vehicle number plates as a racial issue. Live in the present not the past Royce..

    If the constitution marginalises any ethnic group subdues them name it here. But do not name power sharing deals here it benefits only the politicians.

    If you think that the LTTE looked after the Tamil people I will give you enough tamil people who would give you reason not to ever support armed groups. If you think that the tamil political parties who served the northern population from colombo were genuine think again.

    What is required is peace and peace only to allow all people to grow and enjoy life without hindrance.

    There is NO restriction to any community from development other than their chosen political goondas and dumbos like you.

    cheers

  123. I understand all the arguments about ethnicity being of multiethnic descent myself, but in reality, in Sri Lanka, these are largely artificial constructs based primarily on religion and language. The Singhalese and Tamils in Sri Lanka are a biological admixture of both “races”. See the articles cited below. This is easily understandable if we look at our history where there was free intermixing between Sri Lankans and South Indian populations. The last king of Sri Lanka, Sri Wickrema Rajasingha was a Tamil. Also note the HIndu devaleyas in many Buddhist temples. It seems to me that before the British arrived, people must have been more pragmatic about ethnicity – caste was probably more important. In principle, I think Mahinda Rajapaksa’s idea of Sri Lankan vs Non Sri Lankan is right. It remains to be seen if he is sincere in this belief now that he has the power to make changes.
    If we tone down our rhetoric and allow the dust to settle, thing may change. If we keep beating the same old drum, we will continue to create the same old discord.

    Blood genetic markers in Sri Lankan populations-Reappraisal of the legend of Prince Vijaya
    N Saha – American Journal of Physical Anthropology, 2005 – interscience.wiley.com
    … A close look at the present results and earlier investigations on 13 polymorphic loci
    controlled by 37 alleles did not reveal any genetic characteristics in the present-day
    Sinhalese population that are distinct from those in the Tamils of Sri Lanka. …

    Hum Biol. 1995 Dec;67(6):843-66.
    Genetic affinities of Sri Lankan populations.
    Kshatriya GK.
    National Institute of Health and Family Welfare, Munirka, New Delhi, India.
    Abstract
    Mythological and historical sketches of the Sri Lankan population indicate that it is heterogeneous and composed of diverse ethnic groups. Ancient chronicles of Sri Lanka relate the origin of the Sinhalese to the legend of Prince Vijaya, who arrived on the northwest coast of the island in 543 B.C. from northeast or northwest India. Further, because Sri Lanka occupies an important position on seaways, it has received a constant influx of people from various parts of the world (especially from the Middle East and Europe), including India. Taking into consideration mythological, historical, and linguistic records of Sri Lanka, I attempt to study the degree of gene diversity and genetic admixture among the population groups of Sri Lanka along with the populations of southern, northeastern, and northwestern India, the Middle East, and Europe. The genetic distance analysis was conducted using 43 alleles controlled by 15 codominant loci in 8 populations and 40 alleles controlled by 13 codominant loci in 11 populations. Both analyses give a similar picture, indicating that present-day Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lanka are closer to Indian Tamils and South Indian Muslims. They are farthest from Veddahs and quite distant from Gujaratis and Punjabis of northwest India and Bengalis of northeast India. Veddahs are distinct because they are confined to inhospitable dry zones and are hardly influenced by their neighbors. The study of genetic admixture revealed that the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka have a higher contribution from the Tamils of southern India (69.86% +/- 0.61) compared with the Bengalis of northeast India (25.41% +/- 0.51), whereas the Tamils of Sri Lanka have received a higher contribution from the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka (55.20% +/- 9.47) compared with the Tamils of India (16.63% +/- 8.73). Thus it is apparent that the contribution of Prince Vijaya and his companions, coming from northwest India, to the present-day Sinhalese must have been erased by the long-standing contribution (over 2000 years) of the population groups of India, especially those from Bengal and Tamil Nadu. Similarly, the Tamils of Sri Lanka are closer to the Sinhalese because they were always in close proximity to each other historically, linguistically, and culturally.

  124. #134. Dilshan F

    # 12 8 Royce
    “I would even go to the extent of banning racialy named parties”
    How about a racially named country and a racially inclined constitution, it will be a good start.
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    What a ferocious personal attack on Royce. In fact Royce did not specify any country or Srilanka.

    Dilshan’s response looks like a Tamil saying ” En Appan kudirukulla illai”…

  125. #132 S.Joseph

    What about the buses later on?
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    Prabhaharan was driving those. People said thanks for the ride, but we like to walk and get some exersise.

  126. #125-Stephen Jones

    In the UK you have the Scottish National Party, Plaid Cymru and a Cornish Nationalist party; in Spain you have a Basque Nationalist Party and a Catalan Convergence and an Andalucian Party.
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    These are names of regions too. So it is okay. Tamil and muslim are not regions. The less we highlight ethnicity the better, i feel. The costs are more than the benefits received.

  127. #134 Dilshan F
    Next time try Decaf, then you will see the true goondas and dumbos. But make sure that you stand in front of the mirror.

  128. 136 sjoseph

    ” Dilshan’s response looks like a Tamil saying ” En Appan kudirukulla illai”… ”

    This is an apt ” saying ” . This kind of language , I believe, is spoken only in certain specific parts of Tamilnadu. Common in agrarian society of a specific region.

    In fact I am used to ” kuthil ” not ” kuthir “, though both are same.

    Dilshan may not have understood this ” saying ” and for that matter even some Tamil speakers may be blinking.

    It may be a good idea for sjoseph to elaborate the meaning so that the ” saying ” becomes comprehensible.

    Wondering if this ” saying ” is common among Sri Lankan Tamils ! I am excited. Is Royce familiar with this one !

  129. #Ajit Alles

    The study of genetic admixture revealed that the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka have a higher contribution from the Tamils of southern India (69.86% +/- 0.61) compared with the Bengalis of northeast India (25.41% +/- 0.51),
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    Where does the balance 5 % come from? That must be the culprit, the reason for the continous hot air gas.

    Nice to know it is only a pol sambol with 3 ingredients, not a seeni sambol.

    Navin must be pondering how to send that 25 percent back to bengal. Sorry navin, You can’t cut up quarter of a person.
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    Tamils of Sri Lanka have received a higher contribution from the Sinhalese of Sri Lanka (55.20% +/- 9.47) compared with the Tamils of India (16.63% +/- 8.73).
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    Again interesting to see where the balance of 20-30 %
    comes from. That must be the reason the tamils never found the time and energy to concentrate on the sinhalese because they are so busy fighting among themselves. No wonder the whole country is full of gas.

    As for vijaya i always knew he got down brides for him and his people through the tamil king, only not sure whether they were chettis from Mysore or tamils.
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    The genetic distance analysis was conducted using 43 alleles controlled by 15 codominant loci in 8 populations and 40 alleles
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    That is why you became Alles. You have chetty ancestry, am i right?

  130. “En Appan kudirukulla illai”… ”
    I may have heard the apt metaphor in the past a couple of times and I thought it is not in common usage among Sri lankan Tamils until I spoke to my brother who went to University of Jaffna.

  131. The DNA analysis of Alles shows that a political solution is possible without divvying up the country. Hope that the two parties slowly but surely move in that direction.

    The fact that the tamils of srilanka have only about 20 percent of similar DNA to the tamils of India is the clincher. It shows that the original vijaya population split into tamils and sinhalese probably due to geography. The southern part would have continued with sinhalese and bhudhism while the northern part due to its proximity to Madurai and the invasions from South india would have converted to Saivism and tamil language. hence the 20 percent Indian tamil DNA in Srilankan tamils. This is plausible because bhuddhism too nearly got wiped out due to Magha’s invasion.

    Tamils who say that Vijaya was a thug and a product of bestiality and incest, beware. There is a Vijaya in all of us.

    that is settled then. Problem solved. Over to you mahinda and sampanthan the 2 descendents of Vijaya. When are you going to sign this agreement?

    I hope i have cleared up everything to everybody’s satisfaction. or have i muddled it further and created an acharu? i have done the analysis to the best of my ability, though some might want to bonk me on the head. Thank god for the internet.

  132. Dear Surya #95

    If Singapore was not separated in 1965, what would have happened to Malaysia? I think then PM Rahman separated Singapore to avoid further bloodshed.

    The key difference is that the ethnic Malays in undivided Malaysia would not have comprised the majority of the population. Even after Singapore was separated, the Malays formed just over 50% of the total population. The key supporters of separation were the Malays, not the minorities, and in any case Singapore in those days was not well-developed.

    The ethnic Malays also supported federalism because it would dilute the power of the minorities (who were scattered throughout Malaysia and had few concentrations, unlike SL which has a Tamil-Muslim majority N-E).

  133. dear alles

    one thing is bugging me though. Let us say mahinda rushes to sampanthan and hugs him saying”machang, i just found out you were my long lost cousin. It seems i have 70 per cent of yours”, and sampanthan hugs him back and kisses him on both cheeks with tears streaming down his eyes and says “brother, i also found out that i have 50 per cent of yours”. Then they will blink a bit and ask ” how come, if you have 70 percent of mine, i should have 70 per cent of yours, or if i have 50 percent, then both should have 50 per cent”.

    Unless the totals in each are different , it should match no? Then they will become suspicious, each thinking that the other is trying to deceive, and sampanthans bald head on his shoulder will be too tempting for mahinda , and he will give a good hard “tokku” and the enraged sampanthan like a raging bull will get hold of that millet shawl and try to strangle mahinda.

  134. dear alles

    With regard to my #145, don’t bother to explain. I misread that 70 per cent part. What you said was the sinhalese have 70 percent of the juice or whatever of the tamils of India. I mistook it for srilankan tamils. Now i got it buddy. You are spot on.

    Navin, can we send the sinhalese back to tamilnadu and clear up this mess. Then we can bring them back later on little by little.

  135. It is interesting. In the course of time populations do intermix. It has happened all over the world.

    The difference between the Jews and the Palestinians is very meagre.

    Yet they do fight.

    The problem is in the mind, the perception of the population.

    There are also certain reports that certain Piranmalai Kallar’s and the Negros have their genetic map similiar. Why only PK’s all the people have some of them common between the Negros.

    That again, if this logic is taken to the conclusion, should enable the whole world to unite.

    You cannot solve the Tamil problem by these intelllectual reasonings.

    It should be solved based on Justice, equality and fraternity.

    These are futile excercises.

    BY THE WAY NAVIN IS YET TO ANSWER MY QUESTION. IS THAT THE REASON HE IS NOT COMING INTO THIS BLOG. OR HE IS COMING IN SOME OTHER NAME.

    ROSE IS A ROSE IS A ROSE. AND IN WHATEVER NAME NAVIN COMES YOU CAN IDENTIFY HIS STREAK, THOUGH NOT THE PERSON.

  136. Dear Jeyaraj,

    I do appreciate your analysing, and glad to read your reporting on Up Country Tamils.

    Actually the lost UCT candidates deserved it. The people have taught them a good lesson.

    The Up Country politicians all got together and their main aim was not to look after their people and do good for them but to defeat Thondman.

    Simply you cannot blame a person or an organisation and win the people’s heart and become their representatives.

    What they do is become elected members and get Liquior permits, Buy Govt. land, and have their siblings weddings and other functions at 5 Star hotels and look after their relatives.

    Actually the people in Nuwara Eliya/Maskeliya did not want Thondaman to loose. That is the reason CWC got so much votes in the Electorate. Any tamil could win but a loss of Thondama is loss for whole Up Country Tamils(UCT). The educated UCT, Middle Class UCT all voted for Thondaman, and also to the decent Radakrishnan.

    Most of the estate votes got spoilt as there were not taught enough to study and mark the ballot paper.

    Why the people who speak about the Wokers Wage Rate etc. cannot give an alternatvie wage structure. Do they know about it with out playing to the gallery to gather votes.

    Digambaram has got the workers vote, and Udaya has done a lot to the Estates. He should have been elected.

    Mano Ganeshan by nominating Barathy ( who is a big mudalali in Upper Kotmale Project) has denied Udaya being elected.

    Though Aravindakumar has done something to UVA Tamils, he should not have contested seperately. He could have joined UNP and got elected himself with Satchi.

    Hope Ranil, Ravi & Co’s nominated Yogaraj will fulfill Manoganeshan’s voice with regard to Colombo Tamils.

    Who is speaking about the undernoted category of UCT employed in Colombo.

    1. Youths working in Pettah Shops.
    2. Unskilled labour working for big contractors
    3. Girls working in under developed Garment factories
    4. Pre mature retirees working as watchers in High Society Houses in Colombo.
    5. Educated youths roaming around in Colombo hunting for jobs.
    6. Housing facility for them?
    7. Most of them living with families in chanties, without any basic facilities.

    The other reason for UCT are not looked after as same as the others in SL is that there is no Ministrial Secataries on Up Country Origin. The people of the calibre of Ramanejum,Vamadevan, Joseph, Deenadayalu,Navaratnams have retired. Even though funds a allocated and released by the Cabinet, they do not pass down from the Ministrial level, as there are managed by the mojority community. The funds given by ADB/JICA and other organisations are returned with out being utilised.

  137. dear jey,
    can you comment on todays newspaper report that gothabaya has announced that may 18th will be celebrated as a victory day and every year a march will take place to comemorate that day becoz praba was killed on that day.dont you think it is not the way to seek reconciliation as they say in tamil ventha punnile vel paicharamathiri. we are not concerned about prabas death but what about those 20000 people who died becoz of the bombings of sinhalese army.i sincerely hope that ban ki moon appoints the panel sooner so that gothabaya goes the way of himmler,slobodan milosevic,radovan karadzic and then tamil will commemorate that day with a march signalling victory for human rights.

  138. # 148 Sam,
    “Who is speaking about the undernoted category of UCT employed in Colombo” 100 million dollar question bugging in my mind for several years.
    Glad Praba got elected with 41000+ votes, if all Tamils voted the way it should be, we could have 3 Tamil MPs considering 22500+ Tamil voters in CMB dist. Still it is not too late; we CMB Tamils (UCT, JT & CMBT) must form a strong forum (NOT affiliating with any political parties), identify issues such as you have mention in your blog and bug those elected MPs / MPCs and aspirant MPs. Same time look at how many Tamil candidates fought for those possible 3 seats? Resulting only one got elected. We must discourage those election time politicians. We could do a lot If we could organize a Forum. Can we – I am ready.

  139. 108 Kalu Albert.

    Thank you for supporting me, but you locked hornes with Shankar in the process.

    By the way, are you going to say hello to Obama while you are there ?.

    Cheers.

  140. .Why do we expect tamils to vote tamil candidates and muslims to vote muslims candidates.Cant we remember Mr.Mohamed from Borella,Mr.hameed from harispattuwa,mr.Abusali from balangoda were elected not by muslims votes.They were elected by the majority sinhalese votes.
    Another question? Traditional tamil parties such as TC,FP,TULF,TNA represented N&E with many members.What have they done for the people whom they represented.Less Tamil or Muslims representation will not necessarily affect the social and economic conditions of the people.

    This sort of thinking,Tamils should vote for tamils is a racial thinking.
    Free education,mother tonque education,free medicine and many other benefits enjoyed by the Sri Lankans were granted by the Sri lankans for the Sri lankans.

  141. 149. jagan sriram

    i sincerely hope that ban ki moon appoints the panel sooner so that gothabaya goes the way of himmler,slobodan milosevic,radovan karadzic and then tamil will commemorate that day with a march signalling victory for human rights.

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    Yes too much of triumphalism is there. These people point out the atrocities done by the LTTE. They do not even think of the atrocities committed against the Tamils.

  142. Naloorkanda @ comment#152

    I dont think Mr. DBSJ has argued a case that Tamils must only vote for Tamils in this article.He has focused only on the decline in Tamil representation. It is a valid and vital concern for any ethnicity

    As a Sinhalese I will be concerned if There is a drop in Sinhala represntation

  143. Why do people like NK (#152) persist with the stuoid reasoning that Tamils are racist in voting for Tamil candidates?

    Is he saying that Sinhalese are racist if they vote for Sinhalese in Sri Lanka or English are racist in voting for English candidates in Britain and that White Americans who voted republican are racist because the democratic presidential candidate was Black?

  144. I have a problem with the person who is commenting under the name “Nalloor Kantha” at #152 post

    I and many other readers on this blog are ardent devotees of the Deity at Nalloor Kanthswamy koyil

    When we refer to the deity we refer to Lord Murugan at Nalloor in short as
    Nalloor kanthan or Nallor Kantha

    But this person has insulted and hurt our sentiments by usurping the name of our deity as his or her own

    This is unacceptable and this person should immediately stip this.

    What is even more revolting is the crass stupidity he dishes out as comment under this holy name

  145. #152-nallurkantha{Lord murugan}

    In my previous comments i have explained what racism is but some times it does not penetrate thick skulls.

    Before all and sundry go bandying this dirty word left, right and center , they must first understand it. Then only they will be able to identify when real racism takes place, otherwise it will be like the boy who shouted wolf for everything.

    Here is the definition of racism as per wikipedia

    “Racism is the belief that race is a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.[1] Or, on the opposite side, racism can be described[weasel words] as the belief that a certain race or races portray undesirable characteristics”

    So you can see from this the stupidity of thinking that if you vote for your own race it is racism. In the absence of any evidence that the person doing so has based his decision on the premise that the candidates of other races are inferior, we have to give him or in my case her, the benefit of the doupht, and declare it as non racist.

    The examples you showed of muslim candidates being elected by predominantly sinhalese electorates, shows that the sinhalese are broadminded people. The same way the recent example of a sinhalese man Piyasena of mixed parentage being elected on TNA ticket shows that eastern tamils are also broadminded. We have to hope that in the north too in the future a sinhalese candidate will be elected and a tamil candidate will be elected by the sinhalese in the south. This will mean we have become a very broadminded people, but it does not mean that those who voted for candidates of their own race are racists.

    In this day and age where you can obtain so much information with the click of a button, it is iresponsible for people to spew out a lot of garbage on the internet.

  146. Royce’s reference to a racially named country and constitution is direct reference to Sri Lanka, as this blog and this artice by DBSJ is in reference to Sri ankan Poitics.

    I am sorry to say typically, when being uncomfortable Royce resorted to a bit of word in Tamil, so that the Tamil speaking readers can understand and others cannot.

    This is the same seeds of distruct that has been sown by many. I have no idea what he meant and I am sure that it woud not be to say anything nice.

    However…

    Royce we can argue and perhaps hurl a couple of verbal pot shots here, but we all enjoy DBS’s articles and write our comments here. I am sure that we would have a beer together even though our thinking on certain subjects may differ.

    Have fun mate wherever you are.

  147. Dear Prof Liyanage,
    While I am agreeing on reducing the power of the President, what about the power and mandate given to all members of elected bodies? Suppose in 2004 GE we elected some of our MPs to sit with opposition but most of them moved to the Gov bench against the will of the very voters. What the last Gov did was like buying MP from various parties, I believe the Parliament is not trading place and every member have a role to play (ruling, opps, minor & appointed)

    I would like to add few points on changing the electoral system (may be little costly but this will shift the balance of power from members of parliament or PC to the voters).

    I propose provincial council and Parliament should be restricted to 5 years ONLY – (60 months), but election should be held on every 30 months – 2 ½ years to elect 50 % of total representatives for 5 year term, at 30th month another election will take place for 50 % representatives for 5 year term.

    So every 2 ½ years the ruling and opposition should be endorse by voters. Naturally the ruling party or coalition don’t get mandate from voters, then new government will be elected by members of parliament. (For the first Parliament we will give the president to appoint 50% of members for 2 ½ year period only).

    What we are talking here is to tame the members of parliament and provincial. In most case we don’t see our elected reps soon after the election and they also don’t want to see the voters. Then how could we expect them to serve their electorate, district or the country?

  148. Aluthgamage is a man from downn South (Aluthgama) from the Karawe caste. The upcountry Bandas don’t like him, so people like Amunugama (Goigama), Rambukwella (a Radala), SB Disaanayake (Durawe – which is higher than Karawe) tried to block him. Nawalapitya Tamils love Aluthgamage who speaks fluent Tamil. It is the Tamil vote in the Kandy distrct that gave him so many preference votes.

    Best regards.

  149. #158
    dishanf is getting mixed up, his own comments and others. I encourage him to go back and read, to get a better idea. Wrong input, incorrect conclusion.
    Denial of truth, denial of freedom& justice. Reserve the beer later.
    Though my favorite is Bud light, I can enjoy Foster.
    Take care buddy.

  150. 160 seelanatha

    From your name I gather you are a Buddhist. Right ?.
    What did Buddha say about the caste ?.

    I am very sorry to see that you analysing the castes in this day and age.Caste system should be dead and gone long time ago. Caste system is one of the cancers SL should get rid of. Thanks to MR, the biggest cancer we had was removed by destroying LTTE. LTTE, who ?.

    Now, most people talk about the caste, when it suits them. If you are a wealthy person, nobody worries about the caste, and at the same time if you are poor, so called higher caste is of no use.

    Although, as I said earlier, MR removed the biggest cancer in SL, he is not going to worry about attacking the caste system, because it suits him just fine. Thank you verh much.

    Cheers to all those high caste people and low caste people ( so called).

    By the way, what’s happend to James Thenuwara ?.
    I hope he is all right. James, are you still around ?. We miss you.

  151. Marusira

    thanks for comments, my point is that Aluthgamage though everyone blames him is not a bad man. he came to power on the back of the Tamil people.

    Yes I also miss James Thenuwera – a man with so much wisdom. I hope he’s alright. Please come back James. Be thick skin.

  152. 162. marusira:- Mate I agree with what you are saying about cast but the current realities of life does not align with what Buddah said. Therefore I am not surprised that Seelananda probably a Buddhist made this comment. In fact I found it amusing that he seem to know the cast of all these guys!! Now that is really SL because I can remember in 1990’s there was a high officer in Govt Service with a Kandiyan Radala name like Madugalle or Keppetipola. But he was very arrogant & one day a lowly clerk who got the worst of this guy told me he was not a Kandiyan but a low cast guy who had taken that name!! How the heck he knew this I still don’t know but he proved correct!

    Now in the west, recently there was a professional woman who asked my wife the cast of another SL woman when all the time we think we are living in a castless & classless western society!!

    So have a drink and enjoy the scene. This is SL. Embrace the good, bad, warts and farts

  153. # 162. marusira
    Caste, Race, Class- are the same category. It just represents people group who have similar culture, customs and social practices.

    There is nothing right or wrong in people’s sub-groups, as long they are not misused against another caste/race/class.

    If you are against caste, then are you against races too? how about class then (Upper/middle/lower)?

  154. #64-wesley

    I don’t think that malaysia is a good model for srilanka to follow. Malaysia is about 5 times bigger than srilanka and having only about 20 % more people. So therefore its population density is about quarter of that of Srilanka. In otherwords for every 1000 sq.km we have about 4 times more people than malaysia. So it is no wonder that its people will have a higher per capita income than us. A malaysian’s income is about 3 times more than a srilankans income on a purchasing power parity basis. I like the PPP as a better comparision tool than nominal value because a US dollar can purchase a different basket of goods in both countries.

    After a debilitating civil war of 25 years if we can still have a third of malaysian’s income, and if we hadn’t this large population density, and also don’t have the oil and gas that malaysia has, just imagine what we would be now if

    1. no civil war
    2. plenty of oil and gas
    3. popultion of 6 million.[ comparable to malaysia’s population density]

    It is a shame that malaysia is not a developed country like the east asians or europe with all the natural advantages they have including just like us a superb location on a important shipping route through the straits of malacca. Somewhere on the way they went the wrong way, i suspect it was making lazy people even lazier by eliminating competition. What is the use of mahathir railing at the malays to be like the chinese when he himself adopted policies to make them uncompetitive and complacent. i hope the sinhalese don’t follow this model and become like the malays. Can an animal in the zoo compete with one in the wild. increased globalisation is like releasing the animals in the zoo into the wild. Who will survive better, the ones being fed or the ones that have to hunt.

    The economic model we should follow is singapore. This is a country that is only 700 sq.km, only 1% the size of srilanka and .2 % the size of malaysia, and no natural resources at all, yet has the per capita income on a PPP basis of 50000 USD, which is more than 10 times that of srilanka and more than 3 times of malasia.
    With 4.7 million people packed into this small area it has a population density that is 20 times that of srilanka and 80 times that of malaysia.

    I know you commented in good faith because you have been living in malaysia, but today with the internet, you don’t really need to live in a country to find out information about it. Please try to find countries that have higher population densities than srilanka and comparable natural resources, otherwise it will be like trying to compare apples with oranges, and will become like the blind leading the blind.

    Without realising it you will be sending us off a cliff.

  155. 162-marusira

    By the way, what’s happend to James Thenuwara
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    James is in hospital in Chennai having spinal problems. Apparently everytime jayalalitha got in and off a car, he was lying down in front of the door. Probably miscalculated her weight.

  156. # 166. shankar

    It is a shame that malaysia is not a developed country like the east asians
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    Internet feed us data, but would not provide real life experience.

    “Eattu suraikai karikku udavadhu”

    I understand wesley is familiar with conditions in both countries, and is qualified to put his first hand experience with facts..

    The life stlye in Malaysia is much superior to that of Srilanka. The infrastructure, transportation and developments in malaysia are advanced, comparable to developed nation.

    Just comparae the following economic data of both countries.
    GDP: Malaysia: 381.1 billion, Srilanka: 96.43
    population
    below poverty Malaysia: 5.1% srilanka 23%

    Size of the country does not make a difference to development. Just because the area is big, does not mean malaysia has any advantage over Srilanka.

    your assumption that population deters growth & development is not correct (over population may affect). right mix of Human resources is very essential for growth.

    The fact to admit is Srilanka has not developed to its full potential. Remember that, Srilankan conflict is due to its internal policies and poor governance.

    it would be a great achievement for Srilanka, if it could develop to the present stature of Malaysia.

    I am not positive, it would happen in near future (say 10-20 years).

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  157. #168 sjoseph

    [Size of the country does not make a difference to development.
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    Glad to hear that. Can you tell Manmohan to just give kashmir to pakistan without risking a nuclear war in the future, in which we also will be finished. And also tell the 22 million Australians to leave the mainland and get into tasmania which is the same size as Srilanka. The aborogines can be left in peace then.
    If only Hitler and the japs had listened to your advice they would not have started world war 2 for living space and natural resources.
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    [Just because the area is big, does not mean malaysia has any advantage over Srilanka.]
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    Lets try an exchange with malaysia. We will go and live there and they can come here, let us say all other things being equal. Let us see whether they take the offer. If Australia made the offer then they will be out of malaysia like a flash. Size does matter my friend,as any woman will say 3 inches is a nuisance.
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    [The life stlye in Malaysia is much superior to that of Srilanka]
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    The lifestyle in singapore is much superior to malaysia. Why is that though Malaysia is 470 times bigger with plenty of natural resources, fertile land, large coastline, massive plantations, and enough oil and gas for its needs

    Comparatively Srilanka has done quite well with our limited resources, unfavorable conditions such as a long civil war that drained our resources and discouraged investment, our population which our idiotic politicians never planned[ one reason for the tamil and sinhalese insurrections was the population explosion with frustrated youth, the 1871 census being 2.5 million, now grown to 22 million]
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    [ GDP: Malaysia: 381.1 billion, Srilanka: 96.43
    population]
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    naturally. because as i metioned earlier malaysia has 3-4 times our per capita income and GDP is per capita income multiplied by the population.. Singapore is 225 billion. Australia is 800 billion. So why is malaysia GDP not as big as Australia even though it has 4 million more people.. So size doesn’t matter is it according to you?

    As for wesley being familar with both countries, i think he said he had been living in malaysia for 5 decades, so do you think he has been through what the poor srilankans have gone through. Even you Indians have had a charmed life compared to srilankans but still Srilanka’s per capita income is 50 per cent higher.
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    [right mix of Human resources is very essential for growth.]
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    Every population has the same mix, but whether it is a human resource or just human beings depends on the right policies and correct governance. Do you think that the north koreans are different from the South koreans mix wise. The south korean leaders converted their human beings into a human resource while the North had endless parades and patriotic songs. That is why i get the shits when i see these parades and patriotic crap in srilanka blossoming recently. i want to see good policies and good governance instead. Enough of the bullshit, otherwise 10 years from now people will ask, now that the war is over why are we not a singapore. From 1977 our leaders have been promising we are going to be the next singapore. Well if we want to be a singapore we better start doing things the singaporean way.[ not the malaysian way please. India can follow that model if it wants. It is a big county and it can afford to follow flawed systems. Small countries like us have to be efficient to prosper, unlike the big ones.]

  158. 164 Don

    You are right, and I know many people who have changed their names to sound like upcountry radala.
    This is just like the way some people got all these ‘pattam’, like,
    Arachchi, Muhandiram etc. from the foreign rulers for sucking upto them. Not only they got all these knight hoods, but also they got acres and acres of land from foreign rulers for sucking up to them and betraying the rest of the nation. Some of these rich radala people should be ashamed of their ancestors.

    So if some one is a very rich person who has inherited a big tea estate or whatever, now you know how you got it, and don’t treat that poor servant in your walawwa like a piece of whatever. His/her ancestors must have been
    people with principles.

  159. 165-sjoseph

    If you are against caste, then are you against races too? how about class then (Upper/middle/lower)?
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    You can identify race through some physical features. For example when you see a chinese, an african or a westerner you can discern the difference. With class when there are some people having much higher incomes than others automatically upper, middle, lower class originates. The problem with caste is i cannot identify the difference visually or otherwise, unless someone tells me that so and so is of this or that caste, as don once referred to another woman snooping and trying to find out. Hence i feel this is something that has no credibility at all and unnecessarily divisive, when we should be fostering unity. Also what prevents people from in the last 2000 years from surreptiously or otherwise adopting names and castes to suit their own ends, as Don pointed out one fellow adopting a high caste kandyan name.
    So to answer your question unlike race and class, caste has no validity to back its existence and that must be the reason it is only prevalent in India and Srilanka.

    Not only is it something artificially created and out of date, it also rubs salt on the wound by making out that some castes are inferior to others.

    These kind of stupid concepts should be consigned to the dustbin of history where it rightfully belongs.

    At one time people also thought that the world was flat, and poor Gallileo was tortured when he said it was round.
    There were women who were burnt alive in england because they were thoght to be witches.
    I can go on and on like that, but it is to make a point how gullible our ancestors could be.

    If you want to go on the ride that is entirely your prerogative, as for me i have always said thanks for the ride, i will get off here.

  160. Shankar’s comments on Lanka following Singapore are pretty silly. Singapore, like Hong Kong, is simply a city state. It exists as a trading center and nothing else, and the equivalent in Lanka would be an independent Colombo, but without any historical habitation before the nineteenth century.

    What I do find absurd is that Lankans have been talking about who they should copy for the last sixty years, and made a pigs ear of the lot.

  161. Comparatively Srilanka has done quite well with our limited resources, unfavorable conditions such as a long civil war that drained our resources

    And whose fault was the civil war if not the Sri Lankans’.

  162. # 170 shankar

    ” From 1977 our leaders have been promising we are going to be the next singapore. Well if we want to be a singapore we better start doing things the singaporean way. ”

    If the mountain will not come to Mohammed, Mohammed must go to the mountain.

  163. 172. marusira:- Let me present you with a different point of view. When the British landed in SL, being cunning and well versed with the way of the natives by that time, they thought the best people to govern pockets of people in SL were their own leaders. These were the local high cast land owning families. These families had already got land from the SL kings and were aristocrats by that time. The SL kings had given Nindagam’s to these people. Because the British knew that these people were already venerated by the natives, the British though to govern thru them is easy. So they bestowed titles like muhandiram and arachchi and mudalier on them. Mind you they did this to Tamil, Sinhala people and even some of the karawe people later on in their rule. So the British did not exactly bribe these guys because they already had property but they were given some privileges as well as some funds. The idea was to boost their ego so that they would work for the British Raj and govern the natives under them to British satisfaction.

    Also don’t forget many of these aristocrats were very brave people who had supplied soldiers and faught themselves for our own kings. People like Lewke, madugalle, keppetipoa, Edirille Rala etc etc. were among the more notable leaders but others carrying the names of mayadunne, ganhewa,dunurala, hewakaraya, also were warriors.

    The real ancestors of these people (not the fake guys who took the names) are still in SL and some of them have become very arrogant while others have served our people with distinction. Example is SWRD Bandaranayaka, Paul E. Pieris Deraniyagala, Sir Claude Corea, Sir Arunachalam Ponnambalam…etc..Of course the current generation will not remember them and their contributions.

    SWRD Banda thought the British were no good although he was named as the silver tongue of the East when he headed the debating team of the Oxford University in UK & I believe the first Slankan to head the debating team. He went on to rid SL of British ways of life. He was a walauwa man who thought the common man was the king but did not live a full life to see his reforms through because a common man killed him. After his death, he was criticised by various quarters (including myself) to say his vision was faulty and dragged SL down the poop but I believe the man was very genuine.

    However these aristocrat rulers of our countries past, never stooped down to bribe taking and corruption which you see today. They were people who had tremendous self esteem and would never stoop down to low levels because they had plenty of money. Of course they had one weakness that is to sleep around with other women!! So, SL moved from aristocrats’ to common man and From Premadasa we have come down to Mervin Silva and you can now see corruption is rampant. There is no self esteem in these jokers.

    I can remember Anita Prethap, the well known Indian Journo writing that Prez Premadasa when he was interviewed had two people on either side to fan him like the SL kings of olden days which only reflected his inferiority complex because he was from a low caste family! Again, the reason of the first fall out between MR and Chandrika was said to be that CB did not invite MR to the wedding of her daughter. Because although govigama, MR is below the class of CB who is Kandyan Radala!! So there it goes…

    However, these walauwa people trying to rule the country from Premadasa’s time is a disaster because many have lost their common touch (example Ranil W) but many coming from these families still immensely contribute to the well being of SL. Therefore I don’t think it is appropriate to belittle their contribution although it is fair to say that currently some of them do not deserve any respect due to the way they behave. Many of the high cast walauwa people did not carry their cast tag on their head but treated other cast with great respect like what Banda did all his life but the problem is some Goigama people putting up airs and thinking they are the king makers and others are unworthy commoners.

  164. 178 Don

    Thank you very much for enlightening me with some facts about
    Kandyan Radala, SL Aristocrat, caste etc.

    Very interesting reply.

    Cheers.

  165. The latest news from here in Sri Lanka is that most of the shanties in Colombo are destroyed, and the people living in those places are kicked out with no place to go.
    Most of these people belong to the majoriy Sinhala communitiy. If they were from the minority Tamil community, even the UN would have been up in arms. All those bleeding hearts from Human Rights organisations, where are you ?. Remember, there is no war in SL at the moment.

    The funny part is that people living in big houses close to the beach are celebrating because they can see the beautiful Indian ocean now, since the shanties are gone. These people live in airconditioned luxury houses
    and on the otherside of the road lives those down trodden people who doesn’t know where the next meal coming from. Those middle class meat heads don’t care what happen to these poor souls.

    Have a heart, wicked people.

  166. #177-nostradamus

    If the mountain will not come to Mohammed, Mohammed must go to the mountain
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    Mohammed finds it too tiring to do mountainclimbing. He must be thinking these mountain climbers are mad. Mohammed prefers to watch mountain climbing on tv while chewing his betel and spitting it out and belching hot air.

    He doesn’t mind being carried or airlifted to the top of the mountain though, preferably business class reserved for high caste only.

  167. #178 Don
    Agree with most of your post. But I thought that the colonial practice of giving ruling powers to the local nobility was something that was in place before the arrival of the Brits. Portuguese started it and the Dutch perfected it.

    In fact one could argue that the colonial powers just made sure the local chiefs, who would have supported the Singhalese kings previously, were now supporting the new colonial masters.

  168. and Nostradamus, mohammed can save all that energy and climb the twin peaks of his missus and explore all the valleys, and have a few more offspring while these bloody fools are mountain climbing. What is the point of climbing mountains when the planet is crying out for more people.

  169. # 180. marusira

    It is disheartening to note that poor people are thrown out of their living places.
    I do hope they are not illegal occupants. Even then, an alternate place to live may be provided to them.

  170. #180-marusira

    The latest news from here in Sri Lanka is that most of the shanties in Colombo are destroyed, and the people living in those places are kicked out with no place to go.
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    Isn’t this something to do with a international event that is going to be held in the future? Otherwise why the sudden urge to spend millions and beautify Colombo. I think after the event is over they will come back. It is all a hogwash for the foreighners. The indian slum dwellers in newdelhi are also going through the same ordeal due to the Commonwealth games to be held there.

    When the foreighners come the Indian and Srilankan government will ask, what poverty are you talking about. You are being brainwashed by the western media about us so called third world countries.

    When the next aid event takes place they will of course go with the begging bowl.

  171. Maru Sira is twisting the story from his racist angle

    The people evicted in Colombo in Slave Island were Muslims,Malays and Tamils. Brute force was used by Police and Military

    There is a conspiracy to destroy Minority community dwellings and relocate them because minority community people support UNP

    The Urban Development Authority and Land reclamation board were brought under Defence ministry by Mahinda so that his brother Gotabhaya the defence secretary can personally oversee theis project

  172. #180-marusira & # 186. Yakadaya

    Every event happening in Srilanka has two stories.

    It appears the race war is embedded in soul, mind and spirit..

  173. 187. sjoseph:-Every event happening in Srilanka has two stories.
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    If you care to study history you will find it happens in all countries. Many Slankans think minorities are persecuted only in SL not in the west. Cast and class are significant issues in SL but not in the west. Slkans think in the west there are equal rights. Always the grass is greener on the other side! This is all nonsense. In the west they don’t do what we do openly. That’s the difference. If we are grateful to what we already have, that is happiness & without eternally asking for more and aspiring for better & better conditions..

  174. 182. Ranjan from Toronto :- You are correct. However even in UK I found there is a class system although it is not openly observed. So this is not akin only to countries like SL or India. I think even we eradicate class or caste systems in the world, there would be some pecking order among humans because it arises out of our ego. So Buddha correctly articulated the egoless state of anatta.

  175. 175. Stephen Jones | May 8th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
    Shankar’s comments on Lanka following Singapore are pretty silly. Singapore, like Hong Kong, is simply a city state. It exists as a trading center and nothing else
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    A city state is still an independent country just like srilanka and therefore comparable. My point is if they have a per capita income of $50000 on a purchasing parity basis and we have only $4500 on a PPP basis though we are hundred times bigger area wise, then it is a good model to follow. Even if we can’t become exactly like them because we don’t want our cardiac units to be full as our people are used to talking hard, the very fact that we go in that direction will increase our percapita income definitely by a substantial amount.

    As for singapore being a trading nation only what do you think Serendib was all those centuries. Trading is in our blood. Everyone came to sell something and finally settled down here.

    See the horse trading taking place in the political scene year after year and how our people enjoy it. Even now something is going on behind closed doors i heard. We need only 6 horses at the moment. By locking up a bull in a china shop we lost some horsesat the election, but yes sirree we sure know how to get them back because we are good at trading.

    We are definitely better traders than the singaporeans because we can even sell things that do not exist. The buyer will also sell it to someone else and vamooze out of the country or hop into the prison hospital and come back.

    Our people have even gone trading globally. They trade their own houses three or 4 times and settle the mortgage in 10 years while the westerner pay it off in his or her lifetime. Even with the removalist cost and inconvenience it is worth it.

    So don’t say we don’t know to trade when that is the only thing that we have been doing since Vijaya arrived with some kaluthodal for kuveni and promising her all kinds of other goodies including himself.

    See whether anyone else in the world can trade in goods and services that don’t exist .

    As for your contention that singapore is only a trading nation, i have some news for you. It has

    a] A growing financial services sector.

    b] it is south east asia’s financial and high tech hub.[ hopefully Srilanka can become South asia’s hub]

    c] a quarter of its labour force is occupied in industry while a substancial amount is also in financial services.

    d] it has industries such as electronics,petroleum refining, ship repair,chemicals, rubber products,processed food and beverages,oil drilling equipment and offshore platform contruction to name a few. Recently it has also started getting heavy foreign investment for phamaceuticals and medical technology production.

    Some of these could have been channelled to us instead of singapore because we are so similar countries , if we hadn’t been playing the goat all these decades.

    Our leaders have been only worried about sinhala bhuddhist supremacy, ethnic bashing, election violence and revenge, caste, language etc. They never got their priorities right.

    Think small and you stay small,right.

    Anyway better late than never.[hopefully]

  176. hopefully Srilanka can become South asia’s hub]

    ROTFLOL

    You’re talking about a country whose largest financial giant, Ceylinco, is a bankrupt scam.

    You’re talking about a country where credit card fraud is organized by the banks themselves; use a credit card in a Lankan shop and the merchant bank will then arrange for your number to be used in various dud financial transactions in the same area.

    You’re talking about a country where when you use a foreign credit card in the Lankan subsidiary of your home bank they cancel the card because they are afraid that their Lankan branch is a security risk.

    You’re talking about a country where government figures for the number of civilians in Tamil Tiger territory can go from 70,000 to 300,000 in the time it takes to jump a barrier wall, and nobody thinks to explain it because they assume the government never tells the truth anyway.

  177. 191 Stephen,

    So if you were rolling on the floor laughing when reading about Celinco. I wonder what state were you in when you were reading about AIG, Lehman Bros, Goldman Schacs, Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac????

    At least Cylinco did not try to drag the country into a depression with it unlike those pillars of Western capitalism.

    Try to have a sense of proportion once in a while mate!

  178. #191-Stephen Jones

    What you are talking about is defects in governance, not people. Singapore also may have been like that at one time until Lee Kuan Yew, one of my favourite leaders took it by the scruff of its neck and put it right.

    What is ROTFLOL? Is it Right On Target For Long Overdue Landing.[hopefully].

  179. #191 Stephen Jones

    You’re talking about a country whose largest financial giant, Ceylinco, is a bankrupt scam.
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    The whole world is talking about a country that brought the world to its knees with the Great Financial Crisis [GFC]..

    A crisis brought about by greed and excess, the very same ingredients that brought the downfall of a great man who created immense employment and created a big bank too in Srilanka.

    Whose fault was it, the executives of the investment banks, or the US government that is belatedly trying to bring in legislation to curb excess and greed

    Have you never been greedy Mr. Jones ever in your life or is it Indiana Jones who doesn’t have that gene.

  180. # 192. Ranjan from Toronto

    I guess the expression ROTFLO is for the bold statement “hopefully Srilanka can become South asia’s hub”.

  181. # 193. shankar
    What you are talking about is defects in governance, not people
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    People elects the government and the government rules the people. They are interwined.

    If there is no good government for years on and on, then there is reason to believe that it is people’s defect.

  182. 186 Yakadaya
    Sorry Sir, You are wrong because all the women standing near the furniture from evicted houses were wearing dresses(frocks), and I don’t know any Muslim women or Tamil women for that matter wearing short dresses. If you want to see for yourself please see Daily Mirror on line.

    I rest my case.

  183. #196-s.joseph

    I still think governments are responsible for the country, not the people. People are like the shareholders of a company, more or less sleeping partners who have nothing to do with the day to day running of the company, and one fine day find out it is bankrupt..

    There isn’t much you can do other than to wait another 5 years and kick them out. Then also the people have very little say in having a candidate of their choice.The candidates have already been decided by the party based on various factors that has nothing to do with meritocracy or who the people want.

    It really boils down to a matter of luck finally whether you get an outstanding leader. Some countries were lucky enough to get one or two who put the foundation for others to follow and other countries were not so lucky. I remember at one time great britain was sliding into the level of eastern europe with one pathetic leader or other until Margaret Thatcher came along and stopped the rot. Russia also went the same way until Putin came in and at least did something. China won’t be what it is today if deng Ping had not laid the foundation. Remember Deng was not elected, so regardless of parliamentary system or any other, it just seems to be like a luck of the draw.

    If the people got rid of a good leader who was running the country well, because he or she made them work too hard, or because he or she insisted on meritocracy and no corruption, then you may be right in saying something is wrong with the people. So far i cannot see anything like that happened in Srilanka. You get rid of one rotten bastard or bitch and another one comes along,and when you go to vote you have to decide between this rotton bugger or that rotton bugger.

    One thing we could do is to bring in a rule that if there isn’t a 80 per cent turnout, then the election is not valid. Wonder whether that is the reason mahinda wants a two third majority to change the constitution. Surely he cannot be another rotter who is thinking of only himself.

  184. #198. shankar

    Political leaders come from people, they are Not from another planet. Political parties survive due to people’s support. parlimentarian are elected by people.

    There may be many independants who have integrity, honest y and willing to work for people, but at the end are not elected.

    if a democratic country has no good government for 50+ years, then most of the blame (if not full) is on its people, who elects such government.

    In case of a undemocratic (dictator or communits ruled) country, it is another matter.

    However, i have no objection, if you think otherwise.

  185. Here is an interesting article that could have huge ramifications for Srilanka’s future

    “Prahlad Jani, an 82-year-old Indian yogi, is making headlines by claims that for the past 70 years he has had nothing — not one calorie — to eat and not one drop of liquid to drink. To test his claims, Indian military doctors put him under round-the-clock observation during a two-week hospital stay that ended last week, news reports say. During that time he didn’t ingest any food or water – and remained perfectly healthy, the researchers said.

    In the neghboring country of Sr iLanka the President Mr.Mahinda Rajapakshe has made arrangements to visit the Swamy. He says though he has an open house in his village in Hambantota where the public can go straight to the kitchen he does not want the whole country to come there one day.

    His brother Mr Gothabaya Rajapakshe who is the powerful Defence Secretary is skeptical of all this Indian mumbo jumbo, especially as he is a US citizen. He has asked his brother to check the swamy’s long beard for cheeseburgers and coca cola cans. He has also asked his brother to check the security arrangements if any, for the swamy in order to kidnap him and dissect him for scientific analysis at Asiri Hospitals, a leading hospital in Srilanka.

    The President’s other brother Mr . Basil Rajapakshe who is the minister of development said that it would be wonderful if we could develop the country without people eating.

    The President’s older brother Mr. Chamal Rajapakshewho is the speaker of the parliament, assured the Members of Parliament that the Parliament canteen will go on as usual whether or not food is necessary to keep them alive.

    The President’s son Mr. Namal Rajapakshe who is also a Member of Parliament, and is widely tipped to take over after his father dies, said that though food is important, there are other things in life too that are equally important. He would not elaborate”.

  186. The SriLankan army is getting ready to go globally and fight like the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those who underestimate us thinking we are a small country will get the shock of their lives. Here is an excerpt from an article

    “Military Spokesperson Major General Prasad Samarasingha told Daily Mirror online that while the war in Sri Lanka has been won, Tiger operations still continue internationally and the government is now taking steps to address that issue as well.

    “We have won the war in Sri Lanka but internationally the second phase of the war has started. Not only the forces, but the whole nation, including the people living overseas must get together and stop this international LTTE propaganda and activities. We will have to conduct a separate operation on that which the government has already started,” Major General Samarasingha said.

  187. For people who may find it hilarious that Srilanka could invade the western world, i ask them to look at what happenned in the T20 World cup where India with 1150 million people was beaten by us with only 22 million.

  188. # 201. shankar

    Perhaps Srilanka may invade and win a war against India (unless India uses its nuclear power).

    However dreaming Srilanka could invade western countries and win a war is hilarious indeed.

  189. Shanker200.201:- Probably what GOSL means is that they would now counter the LTTE propaganda treats from the western Diaspora. However whether the GOSL can effectively stop the Tamils abroad from setting up a Government is exile would be a tough call as some of these western governments are not very favourable to current SL regime. There is a news article today in Ada Derana where Dr Gooneratne comments that Tamil group in UK headed by Nedukumaran? former deputy of Castro is carrying LTTE philosophy of armed struggle & more dangerous than Radahkumaran? of USA as the former is inclined towards violence while the latter is a lawyer who will negotiate terms for the Tamils with GOSL.

    Small can often beat the big provided they do their home work, but it is not the rule. Another exception being small SL getting rid of it’s terrorists which both the great USA & UK is currently struggling to do and making a holy mess out of it. But these are exceptions. SLA beat the LTTE because LTTE were outgunned and outnumbered & similarly Rommel in North Africa. In those conflicts greater numbers won the day.

  190. # 203. Don
    Another exception being small SL getting rid of it’s terrorists which both the great USA & UK is currently struggling to do and making a holy mess out of it

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    Point to note here is Srilanka won the war against a home grown rebels where as USA/UK are up against an international network.

    India (in sea patrol & intelligence tips) and China/ pakistan (by suppling arms) supported Srilanka to win the war.

    without international support, it is not an easy task for US/UK to eliminate extremism.

  191. I agree LTTE are home grown but all military analysists labeled them as the world’s most deadliest. They had international support, because they got arms from N Korea, China, Ukraine and many other countries. VP’s body guard was trained by Ukraine ex Special Forces. Taliban is not international and they are confided to Pakistan & Afghanistan mostly but USA/UK who nearly rule these two countries are unable to stop terrorism. Even in Iraq only some terrorist are Al-Qaida while others are local Shia fighters. USA/UK has been unable to exploit the difference in spite of US/UK having a vast network of intelligence, eavesdropping facilities & world’s best terrorist advisors. US alone have 156 military bases spread throughout the world with enormous funds at their disposal. I do not know how many UK has. India, China, Pakistan supported SL of MR’s cunning while LTTE lost India due to their foolishness. Gota has created a very effective intelligence service & now SL Tamils tell me that KP & his family have been given 5 star treatment after spilling all the beans! Now I don’t think these are simple achievements especially for a small country like SL. When ever I hear bombs going off in Iraq, Pakistan killing innocent people I rejoice at the current peace in SL thanks to MR & the crowd. However I am not their supporter with all their corruption but the devil needs to be given its due whether we like it or not. I am also glad to hear that some of our special forces have been offered assignments in other countries & Gota has been consulted by other countries in eradicating terrorism. This is a big achievement for a small country.

  192. #203-Don

    The impression i got was that Srilanka is going to use its armed forces to attack the LTTE abroad. Otherwise why is the Army military spokesman talking all these. A senior minister could have said these instead. Besides see the reference to second phase of the war on foreign soil. Also the reference to not only the forces but the whole nation. So the forces are being mentioned. There is no need to mention the forces if we are talking about foreign soil unless there is an intention to invade. what can the forces do waiting in Srilanka in the second phase of the war.The reference to the whole nation could mean that concription is on the cards with a 3 million army at least.

    Some really exciting times are round the corner indeed.

    Canada probably will be the first on the list. After it is taken over using its immense natural resources Srilanka can build up such a military force as to invade norway and great Britain. I would like to see the poms faces when the clock has turned full circle and we are invading them.

  193. to look at what happenned in the T20 World cup where India with 1150 million people was beaten by us with only 22 million.

    I think you’ll find there were eleven players on each side, actually.

  194. Mr. Jeyaraj,

    The Sinhala armed forces left the corpse of our Tamil national leader with a komanam on the Nandhikadal lagoon shore

    But some of our Diaspora idiots through their idiotic antics are now removing that komanam too
    Iyanar

  195. to look at what happenned in the T20 World cup where India with 1150 million people was beaten by us with only 22 million
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    Funny because from what i see, Karma wont allow Sri Lanka success. They got beaten by Pakistan in 2009 final. And just now they are getting humiliated by England

  196. Don
    Taliban is not international
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    Shows how poor your knowledge is. Taliban was created and maintained by the western powers. CIA played a huge role.
    There was a falling out with the West and Taliban regarding an oil pipeline. West got angry and then start publishing bad press about the Taliban. Taliban got angry and burnt down the Heroin fields which makes up close to 70% of the Heroin/opium supply to the world (or at least the west i cant remember).
    The Western powers makes alot of money from the drugs trade. So they needed to get the fields running again. So they did that 9/11 inside job and once they arrived in Afghanistan, they replanted all the heroin fields and the drugs are flowing again. Aswell as the oil pipeline plans going ahead.

  197. Marusira
    The latest news from here in Sri Lanka is that most of the shanties in Colombo are destroyed, and the people living in those places are kicked out with no place to go.
    Most of these people belong to the majoriy Sinhala communitiy. If they were from the minority Tamil community, even the UN would have been up in arms
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    The funny thing is that those Sinhalese shanty crowd will probably not mind being kicked out and homeless because their hero ‘Dutugemunu Rajapakse’ killed the tamils. They dont even mind starving as long as they feel like they have some victory over the tamils.

  198. Shankar,
    Im sure you are using sarcastic humour. I hope so anyway. Because you do know that despite all the ‘anti-west’ bravado from the Sinhalese, behind the scenes, the west has always been supplying the GOSL with weapons. Its true the supplied the LTTE also. The GOSL did not say no to all the Tsunami Aid (which ofcourse went straight into Rajas pocket) or even the IMF loan. Ofcourse they will claim this is to help the IDPs. But we all know that is a load of tosh

  199. Joseph
    The fact to admit is Srilanka has not developed to its full potential. Remember that, Srilankan conflict is due to its internal policies and poor governance.
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    The problem for the sinhalese is that tamil speaking people (whether they be hindu, muslim or christian) tend to be (in terms of their population density) much harder working and more enterprising than the sinhalese. So a prosperous Sri Lanka will mean prosperous Tamil community which the Sinhalese certainly dont want to see.
    This is how the whole situation started in the 1950s.
    The Sinhalese dont even care if they are starving. Aslong as their ‘mahavamsa enemies’ are seen to be in difficulty they are happy. This is evident with the poor Sinhala rural community. Despite all their problems, as soon as a Sinhala politician reminds them that he is going to ‘defeat’ the tamils or ‘have defeated’ the tamils they will be happy for the time being. Then they will get angry again that their situation has not improved. Once again that Sinhala politician will remind them that ‘they defeated the tamils so stop complaining’ and they will be happy again. The process will continue like this.
    I often think the Mahavamsa can feed the Sinhalese people better than food.

  200. Shankar,
    The south korean leaders converted their human beings into a human resource while the North had endless parades and patriotic songs.
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    Good point. Sri Lanka is definitely heading for the latter.

  201. And you still belive the Tamils can live ‘peacefully’ wit these Sinhalease?

    Of course! and they are living together now are they not?………..DBSJ
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    DBS they can live ‘peacefully’ but under certain conditions. I.e the Sinhalese reserve the right to introduce their biased fantasies about what they believe is the history of the Island (Mahavamsa style). Use their biased ideas as the national curriculum. I.e They force their ideas down the throats of tamil people and what not and constantly patronise the tamil community that they are aliens and should realistically not be there.
    So the ‘peace’ is only maintained as long as the tamils keep their mouths shut and listen to this nonsense. Ofcourse if the tamil say that they dont agree with Sinhala version of history, then that is when you see the ‘peace’ go down the drain. The Sinhalese cannot stomach listening to ideas of history that does not align with their fantasies. Immediate accusations of ‘terrorist’ start getting dished out with further intimidation.
    I have experienced it myself.
    My family lives in Sinhala area. And we often discuss how irritating it is that we have to keep listening to the nonsense the Sinhala community feels the need to keep dishing out constantly. Recently some of my tamil relatives went on a safari tour along with some Sinhalese and western tourists. And the guide was a typical Sinhalese. He was spending half the trip blabbering about ‘Sinhala kings, evil tamil invaders etc etc’. Considering that some of these so called ‘Sinhala kings’ are known to us to be tamil kings. You can imagine how irritating this is for us.

  202. DBSJ RESPONDS:

    The question here is about Tamil representation decreasing outside the north -east. Why are Tamils not voting in large numbers?
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    DBS you know the answer to this aswell as i do.
    Common sense. Most of us have no reason to trust the Sinhalese and they keep demonstrating this to us daily.
    What was the point of the election violence in Nawalapititya. Its incidents like this that reminds us what the Sinhalese people are all about.

  203. DBS you wrote a very romantic comment at 48)
    But i am afraid its not about demanding separate state that is problem for tamils. The Sinhalese have no intention of allowing Tamils to prosper even within so called united Sri Lanka. Their behaviour is proving this.
    Regardless of whether we take ‘hardline’ or ‘softline’ approach the GOSL number one agenda ( to eliminate the tamil community in Sri Lanka) will continue.
    And like you said, both communities fates are connected. The Sinhalese dont seem to digest this concept too well. In their attempts to destroy us, they are going to bite the dust also.
    And thus the island will perish (in terms of becoming a Burma/North Korea etc). It is karma.
    And because the tamil community is powerful all over the world, we will survive. The Sinhalese are in serious trouble as they only have Sri Lanka and Sri Lanka is well and truly on its way down. This is karma.

  204. Mahesh,
    You are puzzled why LTTE killed Gandhi? It was because oF Israel. They trained the LTTE for free. They also trained the GOSL. They were later sending weapons shipments to Sri Lanka. Rajiv Gandhi was intercepting them and cutting out the supplies from Israel. Israel gave the order to Sri Lanka (whether it be GOSL or LTTE) to remove Gandhi.
    LTTE decided to take this task.
    At least this is the story from Victor Ostrovsky (defected Mossad agent who wrote ‘by way of deceit’)

  205. #208-Iyanar

    our Tamil national leader
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    Your tamil national leader you mean not ours, who took power through the barrell of a gun, and at one time wiped out all the young men who did not want to join his group but nevertherless were prepared to lay down their lives for the tamil cause.

    Your national leader who went on the rampage killing eastern cadres of his own group, because they were tired of being used as cannon fodder.

    Your national leader who coudn’t bear the sight of educated tamils, because he had no education himself, and at the slightest excuse annihilated them one by one.

    Please keep your dearly departed national leader to yourself without posthumously imposing him on others.

    Dear stephen it is 13 vs 11 or 12 vs 12., you have forgotten the umpires,do you think they are going to do that boring job without participating in the result in some way. They can decide the win or loss. and don’t forget the bookmakers, how many were betting on Srilanka and how many on india.

  206. Don, with regard to your reference to Rommel, i think if i’am not mistaken his defeat was largely due to the lack of supplies. His tanks did not even have the fuel run properly.The british intelligence had broken the german morse code, but the Germans did not know it. As a result the allies knew exactly the location of the supply ships and bombed or torpedoed them.

    The same thing happenned to the LTTE. Eight supply ships were destroyed in a year with the navy receiving intelligence from a foreign country. That is a enormous amount of military hardware sunk and possibly was the turning point in the war and as you rightly pointed out the LTTE was out gunned and outnumbered, but additionally i think outmaneuvered too on the field due to Sarath Fonseka and Shavendra silva. Prabharan did not have enough good military commanders. He himself was a bunker commander like hitler. You have to be on the field like napolean toknow what is happening. When one of his best generals Ney’s horse was shot in the river and Ney was drowning, Napolean jumped into the river and saved him. Prabhaharan killed his best general Mahattaya, shooting himself in one foot, and then fell out with his second best karuna, shooting himself in the other foot.

    As for being outnumbered i think the main mistake was not recruiting from tamilnadu when Indira Ghandhi was offering training and tamilnadu youth wanted to join, but were told, it would be much more satisfying to get Eelam on their own. I hope they are now satisfied.

  207. 206. shankar:- I just cannot see SL invading anybody. Even Elam war, had LTTE the same weapons as SLA & VP did not kill Rajiv, the outcome would have been different. I would put the LTTE boys as the best pound to pound fighters in the world probably next to the Hezbolla who fought Israeli’s to a stand still some time back in Lebanon. Military spokesmen makes this statement because if there is a fall out, GOSL can say, it’s not their official line, the same as they said when Dayan Jayathilaka made anti Israeli comments. Similarly Weerawansa makes many out of the world statements instigated by the GOSL but the GOSL appears not responsible to those statements! Second phase of a war in a foreign soil means a propaganda war not a military conflict.

    However, there is information that LTTE is regrouping in an African country and trying to access funds from their networks which are still intact but having trouble due to KP’s current understanding with GOSL. KP’s people seem to put a spoke into the access of funds. There seem to be another proposal to start the pistol gangs in the East. So while GOSL is dreaming of conquest, they may have another fight in their hands unless they look out. The only thing against a successful regrouped LTTE operating in SL is that they will not get grass roots support among the Tamil’s of SL who are fed up of any more fire fights. Unless of course our Diaspora guys go for the next fight, but looking at their shape I don’t think they can even win a fight with their wives.

  208. 220. shankar :- Yes you are correct that both Rommel and LTTE had supply problems and they did not get the armaments & men at the correct time which made them a smaller force than their opponents & in consequence were wiped out. What I am saying is whether one is small or large it does not necessary win the war. Therefore a small SL may not win against India in the most unlikely event of a conflict which you have suggested. The only advantage SL may have is their battle hardened veterans of the Elam wars but they may be evenly matched against India’s black cat commandos, Gurka regiments and the famed Sikh Regiments which fought with honor in WW2.

    In WW2 Hitler used veteran German Paratroopers in the airborne invasion of Crete and at the end although they captured Crete, Hitler decided never again to use an airborne invasion as about 50% of his force lost their lives!! Therefore in military conflict nothing is predictable or finite. In battle, the events can be quite fluid. Of course there are standard set piece battle arrangements that are taught in military academies to officer cadets but this is only theory. When Rommel came to North Africa, he had no experience at all in desert warfare but he made a name for himself. But Hitler did promote Rommel over the heads of more senior officers just as SF did in the Elam war. Generally younger officers tend to be more daring, innovative & good counter movers than the older ones.

  209. ugk

    So you seem to be very busy writing a lot to this blog like
    a little kid with a new toy.

    However, what do you call yourself ?.

    English. Indian, Pakistani or Sri Lankan ?.

  210. Re# 218 imagination is excellent substance is negligible.As they say do not let the truth interfere with the story- cock and bull that is. FYI: The book is called By way of deception by Claire Hoy and Victor Ostrovsky.LTTE taking orders from Israel as well did they?Good to know these things!

  211. ugk,

    Of course the education ministry must, get rid of the mythical ‘Mahavansa’ (despite the archaeological evidence corroborating its story) and start teaching the gospel truths of the Sangam and Yaalpana Vaipachamalai…

    The eezhamists fear the ‘Mahavansa’ more than the Sinhalese themselves. They are scared of the ruins which point towards past Sinhalese presence in the Northern and Eastern provinces..People who cry hoarse about Buddha statues coming up in the North did not say a word when the Gokanna Vihara, next to the Koneshwaram temple was destroyed by eelamists in the late 50s..No one said anything when the LTTE destroyed the Lankapatuna vihara in Batti and others in the Vanni..

    History is history…Bashing the mahavansa or blowing up temples like the Taliban will not change that..

  212. ugk,

    You are not only eezhamist but a subscriber to the ‘superior race’ theory as well. Sinhalese are no less enterprising than any other race, they are just less cut throat..If the Sinhalese are so hell bent on destroying prosperous tamils and muslims, why would they watch whilst they become a majority in colombo municipal limits? On the other hand who is screaming about the resettlement of 80 Sinhala (christian) families in Madhu, which were ethnically cleansed by the LTTE..

    You gleefully anticipate the ruin of the Sri Lankan nation and the Sinhala race..Well you underestimate the resolve of the Sinhalese and other Sri Lankans..Your thalaivar underestimated the Sri Lankans too, and he was only left with his komanam..

  213. Oh ugk,

    You epouse the ‘superior race’ theory too..Sinhalese are no less enterprising than any other, they however are less cutthoroat. If the Sinhalese were so determined to destroy prosperous tamil and muslim communities, would they just watch whilst they become a majority in Colombo city limits..

    Now will the ‘superior race’ people like you, watch whilst say Sinhalese became a majority in Jaffna..Even resettling 80 familes in MAdhu, who were ethnically cleansed by the LTTE, set your like howling..

    You still live in the fantasy world of the destruction of the Sri Lanka and the Sinhala race..You underestimate the resolve of the Sinhalese and other non-communalist Sri Lankans..Well your thalaivar underestimated the Sri Lankans too, and he was only left with a komanam..

  214. The state of Israel does not associate with any terrorist groups whatsoever..It’s all a load of bull..Despite Kurds fighting within Israel’s own miltary, Israel still supports Turkey in their efforts against Kurdish militants..

    And while we are talking about Israel, what the SL military means by expanding operations is not invading foreign lands (that’s quite silly for anyone to think of it)..It’s more likely to be mossad style operations to eliminate members of the transnational government..

  215. Diyasena,
    Of course the education ministry must, get rid of the mythical ‘Mahavansa’ (despite the archaeological evidence corroborating its story)
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    Yeah like that woman having sex with a lion to give birth to the Sinhala race? Yes that is all hard proven facts is it not?
    Then you say: ‘They are scared of the ruins which point towards past Sinhalese presence in the Northern and Eastern provinces’
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    What Sinhala evidence? Buddhist ruins dont prove Sinhala origin as many of the ancient tamil people in Sri Lanka converted to Buddhism. Buddhism in ancient Sri Lanka is not synonymous with ‘sinhala’. Sinhala language is modern. It was created in AD times. Many of the so called ‘Sinhala’ kings were not sinhalese as Sinhala language did not exist. Dhaiva Nambeeya Theesan was an example. Born a Hindu Tamil, he later converted to Buddhism. And the Sinhalese to this day run around calling him a Sinhala King Tissa.
    Even then, Buddhism arrived in Lanka after Hinduism.
    The Buddha himself was a hindu. Common sense. You cannot twist this no matter how hard you try.
    Even the Vamsa books were written in Pali and not Sinhala as the Sinhala language did not exist when the were written.
    One member of the JHU was forced to admit to this. But he then wormed his way out of his own false claims by saying that since Sinhala was now the majority, that is all that matters. Change of tune.

  216. 224. karan:- congratulations. You have seen thru the deception.
    228. Diyasena | ..It’s more likely to be mossad style operations to eliminate members of the transnational government
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    You are spot onn mate

  217. Even the Vamsa books were written in Pali and not Sinhala as the Sinhala language did not exist when the were written.

    No, they were based on earlier sources in Sinhala.

  218. 18 May 18 – the Sinhala armed forces defeated the Tamil National Leader on the Nandhikadal lagoon shore.With that Diaspora Tamils changed and took the side of the Sinhala Country. This is shameful. These Diaspora traitors will be led to beg forgivance from Tamils with the emergence of the New Tamil Nationalist Forces – Transnational Government and the Global Tamil Forum – they come with the full support of the Western Governments. Milliband, Cameron, Nick Clegg all are Patrons of the Global Tamil Forum. All those Tamil Traitors will come back under the Tamil Nationalist Flag one day – may be I am then gone.

  219. My Thamil Ealam will dawn during my life time. I am sure about this. We will get it without firing a bullet and without dropping a drop of blodd.

  220. ugk,

    ‘Dhaiva Nambeeya Theesan’..Lol..Good one..

    The following inscription was written in 2nd century BC..And it refers to the name tissa

    “damarakita terasa agata anagata catudisa
    sagasa anikata sona pitaha bariya
    upasita tisaya lene”

    [Cave of Tissâ Anikata Sona’s father’s wife (gifted) to Thera Dhammarakkhita (and) to Sangha who have come or will come from the four quarters]

    Apart from the word Tisa, note lena for cave, bariya for wife and saga (not pali sangha)..This was elu-basa/ helu-basa, the earlier version of Sinhalese..It’s quite silly to assume that languages don’t evolve over time..And why are the inscriptions in Asokan brahmi not the tamilian variety?

    Pali was the language of the clergy (the canon being written in it)..So the bhikkus who wrote the Mahvansa preferred the language they use more often over the the elu of the common man…

    If the Sinhabahu myth is all you have against the Mahavansa I pity you..In a world where gods with elephant heads and monkey gods exist, why cannot a lion mate with a woman,no? 😉 .. Nevertheless the meaning of lion in this case either a blonde or more likely a warrior wearing a lion’s head helmet (such as the likes of heracles, alexander the great and ceasar..

    All that aside, according to you Dutugemunu himself was a tamil king..So the the Mahavansa cant be all bad, no.. 😀

  221. ugk,

    ‘Dhaiva Nambeeya Theesan’..Lol..Good one..

    The following inscription was written in 2nd century BC..And it refers to the name tissa

    “damarakita terasa agata anagata catudisa
    sagasa anikata sona pitaha bariya
    upasita tisaya lene”

    [Cave of Tissâ Anikata Sona’s father’s wife (gifted) to Thera Dhammarakkhita (and) to Sangha who have come or will come from the four quarters]

    Apart from the word Tisa, note lena for cave, bariya for wife and saga (not pali sangha)..This was elu-basa/ helu-basa, the earlier version of Sinhalese..It’s quite silly to assume that languages don’t evolve over time..And why are the inscriptions in Asokan brahmi not the tamilian variety?

    Pali was the language of the clergy (the canon being written in it)..So the bhikkus who wrote the Mahvansa preferred the language they use more often over the the elu of the common man…

    If the Sinhabahu myth is all you have against the Mahavansa I pity you..In a world where gods with elephant heads and monkey gods exist, why cannot a lion mate with a woman,no? 😉 .. Nevertheless the meaning of lion in this case either a blonde or more likely a warrior wearing a lion’s head helmet (such as the likes of heracles, alexander the great and ceasar..

    If those ruins were built by Tamil Buddhist kings, why did the rioters in Trinco and later the LTTE go into so much truouble to desroy them? (After all the Gokanna Vihara was built by the tamils Thapa Sugan and Balu kam right?) All that aside, according to you Dutugemunu himself was a tamil king..So the the Mahavansa cant be all bad, no.. 😀

  222. Diyasena
    Nevertheless the meaning of lion in this case either a blonde
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    Ah so it was not a lion but a blonde person. So at least now you have ‘proved’ that Sinhalese are Aryans. I always knew looking at Sanath Jayasuriya that he had something in common with Pamela Anderson.

  223. Diyasena,
    If those ruins were built by Tamil Buddhist kings, why did the rioters in Trinco and later the LTTE go into so much truouble to desroy them?
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    Why did the LTTE go through so much trouble to send off Tamilian muslims? Or why did they get into so much infighting and kill their own people?
    Why do Bihari Hindus and Christians kill each other?
    Such statements from you are going off on a tangent.

  224. Milliband, Cameron, Nick Clegg all are Patrons of the Global Tamil Forum.

    Nope. When Milliband spoke to the Global Tamil Forum he told it to give up the idea of Eelam and cooperate with the Lankan government.

    And the Conservatives now in power have generally been supporters of the Lankan government. Whilst the Liberals have Hughes, who for electoral reasons is an LTTE stooge, the Conservatives have Liam Fox as a senior minister, and he is famous for receiving Lankan trips paid for by the Rajapakse government.

  225. Even then, Buddhism arrived in Lanka after Hinduism.

    No evidence for this whatsoever.

  226. 239. Stephen Jones,
    What do you mean no evidence?
    Its common sense.
    Its amazing how many times i have to keep repeating myself for dunderheads.
    Let me go over it again:
    1) Hinduism is much older than Buddhism
    2) Hinduism existed all across Southern Asia long before Buddhism appeared
    3) The Buddha himself was born a Hindu
    4) Sri Lanka is literally a stones throw away from India. Therefore it is idiotic to even think that Hindu religion never went to Sri lanka. And that some Buddhist doctrine that originated near nepal somehow arrived there first.

  227. ugk,

    Ah so it was not a lion but a blonde person. So at least now you have ‘proved’ that Sinhalese are Aryans. I always knew looking at Sanath Jayasuriya that he had something in common with Pamela Anderson.

    Ever heard of the concept of ‘Genetic drift’ ? How many of the Dutch burgers in Sri Lanka have blonde hair and blue eyes?

  228. #235-Diyasena

    Nevertheless the meaning of lion in this case either a blonde or more likely a warrior wearing a lion’s head helmet (such as the likes of heracles, alexander the great
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    How do you then explain the fact that the Mahavamsa states that Sinhabahu’s hands and feet were lionlike claws.

    As for alexander the great, this is what i have been saying don’t underestimate the sinhalese because of their heritage.

  229. #237& 240.

    Perhaps, If the conflict in srilanka is projected as Budhist vs Hindus conflict, rather than sinhalese vs Tamils, it would have got bigger overall support .

    Many Indian Hindus also might have viewd its as a justified cause of Hindus fighting for freedom in Srilanka

  230. All Tamils should Celebrate May 19 as the Day of the Dawn of New Tamil Ealam under the Great Patriotic Leaderships of Nediyawan and Rudrakumar who will bring in Tamil Ealam during our Lifetimes. Every Tamil House must display the Tamil Tiger Flag on 19 May and a portrait of the Great Leader must be hung on the main hall of every Tamil House. All Hindu Kovils must commemorate the Dawn of Tamil Ealam on 19 May with Special Poojas to offer blessing to Living Tamil Leaders and our Great Dead Leader.

  231. #245-sivapalan

    Great Patriotic Leaderships of Nediyawan and Rudrakumar
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    Can you once and for all say who is the leader and who is going to be bumped off. You know very well the history of the LTTe and that their are no co-leaders or joint leaders.

    If we hang the Tamil tiger flag the sinhalese will hang the sinhala lion flag.

    If we hang Prabha’s portrait they will hang Mahinda’s.

    If hindu temples commemmerate the birth of tamil eelam onmay 19th, Bhudhist temples will commemerate the death of tamil eelam on may 19th.

    If we offer special poojas they will go on to all night pirith ceremonies, with monks chanting away and getting rid of all the hot air.

    So can you please give us some ideas that they can’t counter, otherwise it is a waste of time.

    Now if someone[let us say you] on may 19th jumps off one of the tallest buildings in the world with the tamil tiger flag and portrait of dearly departed leader then that will be a heck of a thing to counter, unless Thenuwara has recovered.

  232. I ask my Tamil breheren to do everything to get David Miliband elected. He will get us the Ealam. The man is Anton Balasingham in another name

  233. Shankar, I am disgusted with you. Prior to 19 May you guys were ardent Tiger Supporters. I beleive you supported the hunger strikes in Australia. Now that our beloved Leader is Dead, and the entire Leadership is anihilated you try to show you are a ‘Moderate Tamil’. Bloody Hypocrit. There are no Moderate Tamils – either you are with us or with them. Choice is yours.

  234. sjoseph,
    It was religious based problem many centuries ago. The Western Scoundrels who are masters of creating false racial classifications created the Ethnic divide.
    You can see how westerners did that with devastating effect in Africa. Racially classify tribes in Africa and get them to start killing each other. The Bahutu and Tutsi problem was a prime example. Two communities who had lived together for time immemorial and descended from the same ancestors. Then along comes the white man and his anthropology weapon. Both tribes were classified as different races. One tribe was labelled ‘caucasian’ (or Aryan). resentment was stirred up between the two. What happened from then on became one of the worlds worst genocides.
    Even to this day, the crafty white man is reclassifying all sorts of people in Africa as ‘aryan’.
    He has his own agendas. One is to create instability and division so that he can keep the region weak. Another agenda is to add numbers to his dying population. The original pale skinned, light haired whites are almost extinct. The melanin population is growing. So the white man is reclassifying alot of people as ‘white’ so that he can still feel like he has numbers on his side.
    The Sinhalese have been given their ‘white’ ancestry by the white man and are now hell bent on defending that identity. The Sinhalese even got access to the Mahavamsa in Sinhala because of westerners who got it mass translated into Sinhalese and English. Before that only Pali speaking monks could read it. The white man the ever crafty schemer knew that getting that book into wide circulation would create resentful attitude towards the Hindu community. Especially since there was a disproportionate number of them with government jobs.

  235. One tribe was labelled ‘caucasian’ (or Aryan). resentment was stirred up between the two. What happened from then on became one of the worlds worst genocides.
    Even to this day, the crafty white man is reclassifying all sorts of people in Africa as ‘aryan’.

    Making this kind of nonsense up merely makes you appear ridiculous.

  236. 248. K Sivapalan | May 16th, 2010 at 4:56 am
    There are no Moderate Tamils – either you are with us or with them. Choice is yours.
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    I have never ever supported the LTTE for reasons that DBS has detailed very well. Alot of Sinhalese think i support LTTE because i speak out against their Mahavamsa mindset and the evil GOSL. But this hardcore LTTE attitude is also something i distance myself from.
    There is virtually no chance of Eelam forming unless China changes its mind. At the moment China wants to turn the North into a military strong point to infiltrate India from the South. The western world and David Miliband are not going to mess with China fullstop. So maybe you should go and beg to China and not David Miliband.

  237. 248. K Sivapalan | May 16th, 2010 at 4:56 am
    [Shankar, I am disgusted with you]
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    Truthfully answer me whether you were not disgusted when the LTTE hacked little babies.? For me that was the turning point. I realised we had scum among us worse than the sinhala scumbags.
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    [Prior to 19 May you guys were ardent Tiger Supporters. I beleive you supported the hunger strikes in Australia]
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    A figment of your imagination, unless you are mistaking me with someone else or going on a fishing expedition. I have never been a tiger supporter and always a patriotic Srilankan. namo namo maatha. Apa sreeeeeeeeelanka, namoooo namooo namooo namoooo maaaathaaaaa.
    ———————————————————–
    (you try to show you are a ‘Moderate Tamil’)
    —————————————————————
    Iam not a moderate. Moderates are too soft. I believe in the middlepath as the Lord Bhuddha advised. It is time that hardliners like you also moved to the middle.
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    ( Bloody Hypocrit. There are no Moderate Tamils – either you are with us or with them. Choice is yours.)
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    Harsh words indeed from a gentleman of the british empire. I least i should be relieved that i am not being called a traitor and a gunman sent after me.

    I made my choice long ago. I am a patriotic Srilankan. Sometimes i scold the sinhalese too when i see them ruining the country.

  238. #251-UGK

    You are overestimating China. China will not have a showdown with the west in the near future. If the eelamists have got the US and EU in the bag and The GOSL has got China, the eelamists are still up on the deal.

    For the GOSL a lot will depend on japan and India the two other asian giants. At the moment they are not firmly in any camp. How the GOSL handles these two while having friendly relations with their traditional rival China, will i think decide the outcome. If like prabhaharan killing Rajiv, they antagonise these two in any way, that will be fatal for the sinhalese.

  239. The Sinhalese have been given their ‘white’ ancestry by the white man and are now hell bent on defending that identity. The Sinhalese even got access to the Mahavamsa in Sinhala because of westerners who got it mass translated into Sinhalese and English. Before that only Pali speaking monks could read it.

    Again the professor of bigotry ugk, claims the ‘inferior’ Sinhalese needed the British to learn of their own history and identity . The ‘Rajavaliya’ which is essentially a Sinhala translation combining the Mahavansa, Chulavansa and (the later periods) was written before a single British boot set foot on the island..

    And why would the Briitsih (with their love for Aryan Sinhalese) give government jobs to minorities overlooking their own ‘white’ kind?

    On the contrary it was the white man which started the separatist notions within the tamil elite..Firstly the Dutch by sponsoring the Vaipava-Malai chronicles, followed up by the British with their ‘Cleghorn Minute’..

  240. # 249. ugk & # 252. Diyasena

    It is interesting to note Whites (westerners) are blamed for all the troubles in Srilanka, both by Tamils and Sinhalese.

    i could see both communities in one common unanimous voice.

    Why not utilise this Anti west sentiments as a starting point to unite the divided communities and nation?

  241. #74 Don
    DBS is correct when he says MR & company are very strong & Tamils playing the fool will be demolished.
    In guerrilla war, one principle is not to attack the enemy when one is weak & enemy is strong. Secondly change strategy, not increase the intensity of fighting when one is loosing. Both these principles were ignored by VP & will it be ignored by Tamil’s again?
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    I have a subtle feeling that, Eelam political struggle is gaining momemtum. Its only a question of time before Local Srilanka embrace it again.

    The fault line is delayed IDP settlement and “Too little ” is done so far to the affected. Rajapakse Govt would perhaps realise it “Too late”.

    Srilankan Govt is at its weakest postion now, though superficially it appears strong. Eelam supporters may press on with their political struggle now on.

    A non violent movement of Srilankan Tamils would be much more effective way to achieve Eelam than the metod LTTE carried out earlier. In Comparison, this is similar to though Netaji’s method failed, Gandhi was able to get freedom for India by non violent struggle.

  242. 241 Diyasena

    Just because a person got a Dutch name, that does not make him a Dutch. If you want to know how some of these really really dark people got Dutch, English and other European names, I will explain it to you.

    When the Dutch and English came to this country, they wanted servants to do their manual work, and when they got these poor Sinhala and Tamil people to do their dirty work, they found it difficult to pronounce our names like Jayawardena, Gunasekera, Mallawaarachchci,
    Sivapalan, Ponniah, Renganathan etc. Therefore, to make it easy for themselves the Dutch gave their names and the English gave their names for these servants. Same thing happened in the estate sector, and that is how so many estate workers got English names, and not because they are descendants of the English. By looking at some of them, one can see that
    they haven’t got an iota of European blood in them. They are just pure black like me. Almost all the Afro American people got their English names in the similar fashion. Just look at all the West Indian cricketers, and they all got English names. Actually, once I was watching and interview given by Vivian Richards, and he said that he is not happy because he got this English name. He said that he would like to go back to his African name, but it was too messy.

  243. 255. sjoseph,
    When the westerners create this cancer in the mindset of the melanin peoples of the world, the people struggle to get it out of their system.
    Its also like a drug addict who is trying to come clean. Thing with Sri Lanka is that alot of people actually dont want to come clean.
    The Mahavamsa is the ‘Great cancer of Sri Lanka’.
    I am pointing out that sri lankans (regardless of what language) descended from the ancient black dravidians. So i am promoting ethnic unity. The Sinhalese dont want that. They want to be ‘Aryans’.
    Apparently Sanath Jayasuriya used to look like Pamela Anderson. But due ‘to the climate’ he now looks the way he does. But Muttiah Muralithara actually looks the same way since ancient times.
    So the fact that Sanath and Murali look so much alike racially, is just a pure coincidence. One is a white man and the other is black apparently.

  244. So the fact that Sanath and Murali look so much alike racially, is just a pure coincidence. One is a white man and the other is black apparently.

    You’re about the only person to believe this nonsense. What is true is that both Jayasuriya and Pamela Anderson speak an Indo-European language whereas Tamil is a Dravidian language. That is a matter of fact and has nothing to do with ethnic origin.

  245. # 228 Diyasena

    Are you sure there are Kurds in Israel’s military ? I think you need to be more specific !

  246. #258-UGK

    I am pointing out that sri lankans (regardless of what language) descended from the ancient black dravidians
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    Actually the sinhalese according to comment made by Alles earlier have 25% Bengali DNA profile and 70 per cent Indian tamil. The balance 5%, he does not mention(might be Alexander the Great). Tamils have 50 % of Sinhala DNA and 20 per cent of indian tamil. Balance 30 per cent might be Julius Ceaser.

    So Sanath and murali are 70 per cent same(50 per cent
    +20 percent indian tamil). The fact that sanath is bald while Murali is having a lush growth can be because sanath is 25per cent bengali.

    As for your contention in an earlier comment that Hinduism preceded Bhudhism in Srilanka, i think it is wrong. You are right about it happening that way in India, but not in Srilanka. when Vijaya landed in mannar in 6th century BC there was only the kuveni mob of Veddhas to greet him. Bhuddhism arrived in Srilanka in the 3rd century BC, 2300 centuries ago and 3 centuries after vijaya arrived. then there was a flourishing bhuddhist civilization in Anurathapura and polonnaruwa. After the 10th century invasions from the Chola dynasty pushed back these sinhalese civilizations to Kotte, kandy etc. My contention is that the sinhalese who were left under the chola rule would have converted to saivism and tamil language, while those who moved away to the south would have preserved it. Hence the 50 percent common DNA in both.

    Th e 70 percent Indian tamil dna in the sinhalese can be expalined by the fact that after 2600 years next to south india, that too with Viyaya’s people coming without women, there would have definitely been intermarriages, settlers coming in, sinhalese kings bringing in tamil armies etc.

  247. 253. shankar

    If like prabhaharan killing Rajiv, they antagonise these two in any way, that will be fatal for the sinhalese.
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    You are right Shankar. It is said that one who rides a tiger ends up in its stomach. India found out that when Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated.

    Now the MR is riding on many tigers. They are India, China, Japan etc

    China is a country nobody is comfortable with.

    You will feel, if you had go to bed with your enemy, you could have done it with LTTE than with the China. They are that sort of people.

    Interest of India is an United Sri Lanka.

    The interest of China is to build a string of pearls around India. Hambantota is one of the strings.

    Interest of Sri Lanka is a Mahawamsa based Sinhala Budhist country.

    China wants to weaken India.

    If China wants to weaken India through Sri Lanka then the options before India are not many.

    I don’t think your leaders are capable of containing all this.

    They are busy doing those things which will rub the wounds with the salt.

    The Sri Lanka will become the battle ground of Super powers.

    This doesn’t portend well for Sri Lanka.

    I wish no more blood shed in your country.

    Let us wait and see

  248. Looks like god got a bit pissed off with this proposed victory day celebrations. Does the celebrations include the estimated 40000 civilians killed as well as the demise of the LTTE.

  249. ugk,

    Certainly, vilifying a community’s historic chronicles is the best way of achieving unity. It’s your likes who want to impose their bigoted agenda on others that are the ‘Greatest cancers’ of Sri Lanka.

    Obviously you have no understanding of genetic drift. You apply your own theories (because of climate?? lame! which Sinhalese says that) to suit your bigoted views. The descendants of Sinhabahu did not continue to mate with Indo-europeans (i.e the so called lion)..So there was no further European input into the Sinhala gene pool. And through generations , the ‘white’ genes were bred out of the Sinhala population. That’s why Sanath Jayasuriya does not lool like Scarlett Jonhannsen..Besides as I said in a previous post ‘the lion’ need not be a blonde. Many greek, macedonian and PERSIAN warriors wore lion’s head helmets..So there may not have been ‘blonde’ or ‘blue eyes’ genes in the Sinhala population in the first place..

    And who says Aryans are white? That’s a stupid concept made up by Adolf Hitler (the guy who like you spoke of a superior race which is more industrious than others)..Are the North Indians, Afghans and Iranians white too? Sinhalese are the ultiamte hybrid race..The aryan migrants themselves were not of one tribe. You had migrants from Orissa, Bengal, Gujarat and even modern day Kashmir. They mixed with the local hela (Yakka, Rakus, Deva) tribes. Before you start it, they were not Tamizh..The language of the dominant Yakka tribe ( who ruled all parts apart from Jaffna and the hills) was more akin to the languages of the Indian ocean and pacific island peoples.The Nagas (the seafarers in peninsular Jaffna) were however likely to be from acroos the palk straits.

    Then for thousands of years Sinhalese mixed with the Tamils. From the times of the Anuradhapura kingdom right down to Keerthi Sri Rajasinghe’s nayakkar wife..No one ever claims Sinhala is a pure aryan race (such races cannot exist at present times). But we will not deny our roots just to placate, the Shylock types like yourself..

  250. DBSJ’s next article will be about what happenned on may 18th all over the world, including Srilanka. That is why we had a long wait.

  251. sjoseph,

    There was anti-western co-operation between Sinhala and Tamils..The last King of Kandy, Sri Wickrama Rajasinghe was a tamil and though the chieftains betrayed him, many Sinhala commoners fought with him till the end. Many Sinhala ministers were fluent in tamil (some even signed the treaty in that language).On the other hand Cankili II of Jaffna was married to a Sinhalese and his daughters were married to Wimaladaharmasuriya I’s sons ..Sinhala warriors fought in his army and his Sinhala ministers were amongst those killed after the Portugese won. Even the treaty of surrender between Cankili and Portugesse were written in Portugese and Sinhalese..

    There is a long way to go but these ties of blood and brotherhood can be re-achieved some day…

    nilam maaRalaam kuNam ondru dhaan
    idam maaRalaam nilam ondru dhaan
    mozhi maaRalaam poruL ondru dhaan
    kali maaRalaam kodi ondru dhaan
    thisai maaRalaam nilam ondru dhaan
    isai maaRalaam mozhi ondru dhaan
    nam Sri Lanka motham ondru dhaan vaa…

  252. # 263. Mahesh

    I beg to differ mahesh.

    India is not so apolitical and China not as bad as described.

    However I agree that China’s interest in Srilanka is with vested interest to contain India.

  253. 267. Diyasena

    nilam maaRalaam kuNam ondru dhaan
    idam maaRalaam nilam ondru dhaan
    mozhi maaRalaam poruL ondru dhaan
    kali maaRalaam kodi ondru dhaan
    thisai maaRalaam nilam ondru dhaan
    isai maaRalaam mozhi ondru dhaan
    nam Sri Lanka motham ondru dhaan vaa…

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    I only wish it to happen in the truest sense, with all communities treated equally. Wish you all every best.

  254. Shankar
    25% Bengali DNA profile
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    Bengalis are just as much dravidian as anyone in southern India and Sri lanka. Ofcourse we are all mixed now.
    And yes i know 110% that hinduism existed in Sri Lanka before Buddhism arrived. Perhaps i need to rephrase and say that Hinduism did not reach Sri Lanka but was endemic to the region. You know what i mean by Hinduism. The ancient dravidians peoples approach.

  255. Diyasena
    They mixed with the local hela (Yakka, Rakus, Deva) tribes. Before you start it, they were not Tamizh
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    Bit like some African tribes who get divided by Euro scholars. And they are bickering about being members of different races.
    You are not really proving anything here other than trying to micro divide the same people.
    To me all these people are dravidian. Even the Sinhalese peoples ancestors also.

  256. Diyasena,
    And who says Aryans are white? That’s a stupid concept made up by Adolf Hitler (the guy who like you spoke of a superior race which is more industrious than others)..Are the North Indians, Afghans and Iranians white too? Sinhalese are the ultiamte hybrid race..The aryan migrants themselves were not of one tribe. You had migrants from Orissa, Bengal, Gujarat and even modern day Kashmir. They mixed with the local hela (Yakka, Rakus, Deva) tribes. Before you start it, they were not Tamizh..The language of the dominant Yakka tribe ( who ruled all parts apart from Jaffna and the hills) was more akin to the languages of the Indian ocean and pacific island peoples.The Nagas (the seafarers in peninsular Jaffna) were however likely to be from acroos the palk straits.
    ————————————————————–
    Thanks Diyasena. But whether you realise it or not, you have supported what i have been saying for years.
    The Sinhalese are hybrid, the tamils are also hybrid. But both have black dravidian ancestors if they want to trace their connection to Sri Lanka.
    The Naagar, Iyakkar, Rakshar are all same people. Black dravidar.
    Arguing about differences is as idiotic as the Mendi and Timini people of Sierra Leone bickering about racial differences thanks to Euro scholars who divided them.
    Ofcourse if you want to micro divide them and say they are all racially different, then you are playing the European anthropologists trickery.

  257. Diyasena,
    There is a long way to go but these ties of blood and brotherhood can be re-achieved some day
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    Yes when the Mahavamsa is put aside. Also when the Chinese and the GOSL thoroughly destroy the Island. The process has already begun. China wants to grow tapioca in the Island and package them in China. That is what we say in tamil ‘moongi la thuppuradhu’ (spit in the face) to Sri Lanka.
    China is also bringing chinese labourers and prisoners. And Sri Lankans are arguing they dont have enough job opportunities as it is.

  258. Diyasena,
    No one ever claims Sinhala is a pure aryan race (such races cannot exist at present times). But we will not deny our roots
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    Ah if only most Sinhalese thought this way.
    The ones i have come across claim they are a pure race of Aryans. And often use the term ‘black’ to describe tamils. we have often said ‘Namme karuppu na? Aven mattum enna? Vella ya?’ (He says we are black, but does he think he is white?)
    As for roots? It depends on what ‘roots’ you want to associate with. Perhaps if you can promote the ‘black roots’ that connect the tamil and Sinhalese, it might be beneficial. Instead of the ‘we are aryans and tamils are dravidians who should go back to India as they dont belong here’ (a very contradictory statement as whites are not endemic to tropical islands, but one which is often said time and again in Sri Lanka).
    So there is promise Diyasena, your attitude is coming round in a positive way at last.

  259. Mahesh,
    The Sri Lanka will become the battle ground of Super powers.
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    You know. many years ago a female yogi made a prediction. She is known to my grandmother.
    She said that the world will see emergence of ‘manjal chappa mooku’ (yellow flat nosed people) people. And that Sri lanka may become the starter for a world war involving all the great powers.
    If that is the case, Sri Lankans are going to get trampled like beetles as China, India, western powers tussle for control.

  260. 267. Diyasena:- Congratulations Sir. You are a guy who knows the history. Yes, the 1815 kandiyan convention was signed by many Sinhalese chieftains in Tamil & Sinhalese fought for Tamil kings of Jaffna and there were Tamil’s who fought with great distinction in Dutugemunu’s forces. The problem is today’s idiots who think Tamils and Sinhalese are different people have never mixed with one another and has no idea 150 years back no one thought they were different. Even today there are many Tamils who will do anything for their Sinhalese friends and vice versa but a few diehards sow racial disunity.

  261. Mahesh,
    I don’t think your leaders are capable of containing all this.

    They are busy doing those things which will rub the wounds with the salt
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    GOSL leaders have always been puppets of foreign superpowers. Even that Fonseka vs Mahinda was nothing other than USA vs China. Why do you think Fonseka went to the USA shortly after the war ended? To get instructions from the CIA as to how to topple Chinese Mahinda. USA for all the blabbering about war crimes should have instantly taken Fonseka to court there. But they didnt. They had more important thing to attempt with Fonseka. They failed.
    China have their goals set on dismantling India which they are doing a very good job at. They have already infiltrated through Arunchal Pradesh. They have funded the Naxalite movement to the point where it is threatening to break the nation apart. And now they want to use Sri Lanka to get in from the South. The fact that a Chinese supported Pakistani warship came to Sri Lanka recently is another clue that China is not here to pick daisies.
    India is in deep trouble. So maybe India will team up with the West, because on their own they stand no chance. This is where the situation can turn into a global problem.So the GOSL idiots with their goal of destroying the tamil people have

  262. 263. Mahesh:- If China wants to weaken India through Sri Lanka then the options before India are not many. I don’t think SL leaders are capable of containing all this.
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    I think you are under estimating the current leadership of SL. MR is one of the shrewdest political leaders and a great PR person. His brother GT is a military dictator and together with the other brothers they form a very strong leadership clique which is not found in any developing country. Don’t under estimate the man who told the western nations to jump and killed the Tigers. I am not their supporter but we must be realistic in our vision. If they did not have support they would have never kidnapped KP and brought him to SL. DBS’s conclusions at 48 is correct because he has assessed the reality of the ground situation in SL without BIAS.

    India is very close to US and today there are many CIA listening post in India. The IMF loan of 1.9Billion just after the war was given to SL after their atrocious human rights record was due to India’s insistence. At one point, India to pressurise US, openly said if IMF loan was not forthcoming, they would extend credit to SL. India’s RAW has very close corporation with CIA. Pakistan is also with US so currently China is check mated. China’s military power will only mature in 5 yrs and until then they are no threat. If you had observed what happened when the Somali pirates captured Chinese ship and sailors, they paid up the ransom because they did not have the capacity to launch a rescue mission while both US and another country I think Russia rescued their people. The CIA watches these episodes. India is very stable under Singh who is not a war monger like Indira or Rajive. He may be a shade too soft but he handled the situation when Pak terrorists attacked Mumbai, very well. Hambantota may be with Chinese but the oil tanks in Trincomalee and some parts of the Navel infrastructure has been leant to India. So MR has balanced the power. Tricomalee is by any standards a better harbor militarily than Hambantota and is the second best natural harbor in the world next to Sydney.

  263. 257. sjoseph:- Gandhi was able to get freedom for India by non violent struggle.
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    Easier said than done. So you think Tamils can emulate him. Can you ever think of any current or past Tamil leaders of the stature of Gandhi? Read the life story of Mandela or Gandhi and you will find they sacrificed everything they had for their cause. Their family life was in ruins and their children scattered. Is there any Tamil today willing to do that sacrifice? Secondly have you ever thought that to win a struggle for say Tamil or Sinhalese people is anti god? Does any religion say we are different and encourage this separation? Of course there are people who think they are above god and good luck to them. Think of this, say VP is now born as a Sinhalese. Can he avoid this? Can he control this? Because we simple little humans living in our own little worlds don’t realise there are things we cannot control but we think we know everything and control everything.

  264. comment 264
    -Looks like god got a bit pissed off with this proposed victory day celebrations. Does the celebrations include the estimated 40000 civilians killed as well as the demise of the LTTE

    I’m sure the diaspora will claim that the thunder god Thor is a diaspora thamil because his name starts with TH…
    They will probably say that all Gods- Rain, Sun even the god of big mac are diaspora tamils…because according to them only diaspoara tamils are racially superior, hardworking masterminds ™.

  265. comment 248
    “I ask my Tamil breheren to do everything to get David Miliband elected. He will get us the Ealam. The man is Anton Balasingham in another name”

    Wow you diasspora chaps are so very entertaining. So Milibanda will achieve eezham for you. East Ham can be renamed as Eazham, Pelham can renamed as Peezham…see how easy that is. Who needs the Sun God when you now have the MiliGod.
    Keep sending money to KP’s account chaps, Peezham is just around the corner…..

  266. #263,Mahesu,

    Have you informed ManmohanSingh and AK Antony about your theories?. Please don’t forget Hillary Clinton and Obama,

  267. There are NO special Tamil areas in Sri Lanka. There seem to be some Tamil areas in Vanni with Prabakaran, but not anymore…Either assimilate or go away…

  268. By the way, can any Tamil with Indian origin tell us the meaning of Elam or Ilam? Isn’t it in Indian Tamil the country of Sinhala people?

  269. 282. Kumar_I

    Have you informed ManmohanSingh and AK Antony about your theories?. Please don’t forget Hillary Clinton and Obama,

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    Should I tell them all these things. They know these and also more themselves.

    Don’t underestimate MMS, AK Antony, Hillary Clinton, Obama etc.

  270. 284. AriyaA
    By the way, can any Tamil with Indian origin tell us the meaning of Elam or Ilam? Isn’t it in Indian Tamil the country of Sinhala people?
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    Isn’t it in Indian Tamil the country of Sinhala people?
    I dont understand that above sentence.
    I assume you are saying that Sri Lanka is a Sinhala country which once again is going to turn me into a broken record. Cant you get it into your thick skull that Sinhalese and tamil people are mixed hybrids? The original people of Lanka are extinct. So modern Sri lankans have some of their DNA as well as DNA from all over the subcontinent aswell as European influence.
    I am not sure where the word Eelam originates from. I have heard that ancient black people who lived in the Sumerian region (between Africa and India) were called Eelamites. I have also heard that it was a name of the peoples of the Indus Valley many thousands of years ago. I have also heard that it was an ancient name of Sri Lanka. Who knows?
    I dont really think its of much importance now.
    Worry about Sri lanka becoming Shi Luang ka, as the chinese colonise it.

  271. # 279. Don

    can you assure me there will be no one from Srilankan Tamil who will emulate Gandhi or mandela.

  272. # 284. AriyaA

    Elam is a srilankan tamil name for Srilanka.

    Illam means Home.

    You may also say srilanka belongs to india also.

    If India is china, it would have long back become part of India.

  273. # 279. Don
    econdly have you ever thought that to win a struggle for say Tamil or Sinhalese people is anti god? Does any religion say we are different and encourage this separation?
    ——————————

    if division is sin of God, Merger must be the delight of God.

    Do you like the idea of Srilanka merged with India? Why the separation when it is so near.

  274. Bengalis are just as much dravidian as anyone in southern India and Sri lanka. Ofcourse we are all mixed no

    A pretty absurd statement.

  275. I forgot to mention in my comment #200, what would the poor farmers do if everyone became like this swami.

  276. #280-Thushi

    They will probably say that all Gods- Rain, Sun even the god of big mac are diaspora tamils…
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    I was just joking as usual. I sincerely believe it was a western conspiracy to sabotage the event celebrating our great victory by our great leader of our great country.

  277. ugk,

    you are against micro-dividing people on race basis, but all for micro-dividing the island to create a ‘Tamil ONLY homeland’ in the North and East..I have never heard a Sinhala refer to a Tamil as black..If someone did that is silly..There are instances in the mahavansa itself (which you love to hate) saying the Sinhala as black (King walgamba was called the maha kalu/ great black Sinhalaya)

    I have a feeling you havent associated with many Sinhalese since 1983 or before…You have a morbid fantasy that the GOSL and Sinhala society in general are out to destroy the tamil community..Why would MR bother speaking in Tamil or doing all this development work in the North if he wants to destroy the tamils..He could spend all the money on develpment projects in Sinhala areas (the ones which actually vote for him)..

    With a bulk of tamils living outside NE,the attitudes have changed a great deal within the Sinhala people…Tamils like the late Jeyaraj Fernandopulle (and now his wife) were elected from predominantly Sinhala electorates. We are yet to see vice versa..

    All Sri Lankans are not Sinhalese, but all Sinhalese are Sri Lankan…We are for buliding a land for all Sri Lankans, where they can live happily and prosperously wherever they chose to do so..If tamils can live in Colombo and Gampaha, Sinhalese too have the right to live in Jaffna and Wanni…

    So here’s to a land based on equal rights and mutual values with no apartheid based ethnic Bantustans..This land is too small to be divided but large enough for the all of us..

    All the very best to you my black brother 🙂

  278. Nostradamus,

    There were are and are many Kurds (mainly Iraqi and Iranian ones) enlisted in both Mossad and Sayeret Matkal..

  279. Ariya,

    Ilam means land of the ‘Hela/Helu’ (the collective name for the Yakka, Nagar, Raksha and Deva tribes)..Both the Sinhalese (through Pandukabhaya) and the Sri Lankan Tamils claim the Hela tribes as their ancestors..

    You are right when you say it refers to the entire island and not part of it..A nice compromise would be to rename the island Heladiva / Ilatheevu in the new constitution..However the ‘Eelam’ word is taboo now and let us keep it at Sri Lanka/ Ilankai..

    I do NOT agree with your assimilate or go away talk..All of Sri Lanka are tamil areas and all of Sri Lanka are Sinhala areas..There is no need for one community assimilating to the other..It’s a matter of live and let live..Any citizen of the country having the right to live and work anywhere in the country irrespective of their race, religion ro caste..

  280. ugk,

    When you say Hinduism was the indegenous religion here it is a bit misleading…

    Hinduism covers a broad spectrum of different religions..However the Hela tribes were sun worshippers not Saivites, like present day hindus. There were other gods based on nature..The Rakus (people of the sun) and the veddha song Ra-ja o mangaliya (may the sun god bring me prosperity)..Buddhilsm arrived (just) before Saivism, but after the multi-god pantheon (which can be classed as a form of hinduism) which was already there..

  281. Diyasena
    you are against micro-dividing people on race basis, but all for micro-dividing the island to create a ‘Tamil ONLY homeland’ in the North and East
    ———————–
    Dear oh dear. I am disappointed. You were starting to come round. Please read my posts carefully. I never supported creation of Eelam and never will. I want Sri Lankans to shut up about history and move on. This is why i target the Mahavamsa.
    Actually i lived in Sri Lanka amongst alot of Sinhalese up till about 2004. And it was from the school i studied at and from the Sinhalese that i was being force fed this mahavamsa nonsense as ‘education’.
    I have tried many times to debate common sense with them but it has been difficult. Because most of them react like robots who are programmed.
    Sinhalese have been good for ‘Kaapalla beepalla jolly kerre pallaa’. Playing cricket, making jokes etc. But the ugly side comes out with more serious matters.

  282. 287. sjoseph | can you assure me there will be no one from Srilankan Tamil who will emulate Gandhi or Mandela.
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    Yes, there can be one in the future certainly but I did not see anyone in the past or among the current Tamils who is of the same stature as Gandhi. Same applies to Sinhalese.

    289. sjoseph | if division is sin of God, Merger must be the delight of God. Do you like the idea of Srilanka merged with India? Why the separation when it is so near.
    —————————————–
    Not correct. I said being nationalistic, that is thinking I am Sinhalese and different from Tamils, is anti god. It cannot be classified as a sin. Just because one does not think in racial terms, that does not mean it is a delight to god but it means that the one is living in harmony with god.

    If one lives in harmony with God’s laws, (here I mean any god, Hindu, Christian, Mohamed etc or even Buddha’s philosophy) one lives in peace with nature and in contentment of one’s mind and soul which can give one a great feeling of consolation and peace. Prabakaren unfortunately lived with a great amount of anger & turmoil against other people which tainted his soul and condemned it.

  283. ugk,

    I never supported creation of Eelam and never will

    Thanks for the clarification..I am suspecting we may have conversed before..Are you Kaushi’s cousin by any chance?

    Look, one has to be practical. Dropping the Mahavansa totally is like asking a hindu to recant the Ramayan. A critical revision can be done..The role of Vijaya can be (and is in most universities nowadays) downplayed..Pandukabhaya’s (being half indegenous and half migrant) role in uniting all the tribes can be highlighted upon..The fact that Sinhalese and Tamils fought on both sides of the Elara-Dutugemunu conflict should be shown to portray it as a power struggle rather than an ethnic war (I suspect Elara was local as the South Indian contemporary history is rather quiet about it)….

    Proofs need to be found that Ilankai thamizh fought alongside the Sinhalese in driving out Chola invaders..The words Chola, Pandya or the umbrella term South Indian has to be emphasised instead of saying Tamizh (It was Sri Lankan vs. South Indian not Sinhala vs. Tamil)..Parakrkramabahu I’s admiral was a tamil. So it could be assumed that other kings like Gajaba I and Vijayabahu I had Tamil generals/ ministers too…If the Sinhalese are to revise the Mahavansa, the tamils will have to revisit the ‘umbilical chord relationship to tamil nadu’ as well (As someone described with allele frequencies in a post before you can see where the real relationships are)..

    The fact that the last King of Jaffna and the last king of Kandy (both Tamils) flew the lion flag has to be taught..The common battles against the Portugese, Dutch and English have to be described…

    Thereafter the British divide and rule policy which sowed seeds of animosity, should be taught ..And there after the two great blunders from the two sides 50-50 (Which would have paved the way for an apartheid state) and Sinhala only (which alienated 25% of the population overnight)..

  284. Diyasena,
    You at least seem to know about Sinhalese and tamil black connection. You can do a great job by educating the sinhala population about that.
    So far all the sinhalese i have met claim they are a separate race of white people. I once asked a guy why he calls tamils black when Sanath Jayasuriya is darker than Prabhakaran. His answer was that Sanath played in the sun whereas Prabhakaran was always indoors. This is the mentality i have come across.

  285. 293. Nostradamus:- May i direct your kind attention to ” Eelathu Gandhi ”
    http://transcurrents.com/tamiliana/archives/200
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    Many thanks. It was good reading it. But in my personal opinion I would not put SJV on the same pedestal as Gandhi. Mind you my family knew him and his wife quite well & I think he and SWRD Banda were at St Thomas’ together. My family had a great regard for him. I consider SJV as a good and a god fearing man.

  286. DBSJ

    I was expecting a write up from you on the first anniversary of the Military defeat of LTTE .

  287. # 299. & 299. Don

    You may not get another Gandhi.. He is man of the last Century. However, similar people May come up.

    —-
    God is above nations.. Being nationalist need not necessarily please God. Being a better human does please God.

    You can still be a better human (without prejudices of Tamil or sinhalese) and be a friendly neighbour even if Eelam Tamils get a separate country.

    Do you agree?

  288. # 302. Don

    Thanks for your appreciation for Gandhi.

    It is Gandhi who supported the separation of Pakistan from India, when Jinnah & Muslim league wanted a separate country of their own.

    Hope you also would support independant country for Tamils for graceful separation from Srilanka.

    I think division of a country is not a Sin against God. But Loss of Innocent lives & Killing humans for the cause of united country is Sin indeed.

  289. #301-UGK

    (Sanath Jayasuriya is darker than Prabhakaran.)
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    Sanath looks more like a westindian to me. Did the WestIndies team tour Srilanka about 40 years ago?
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    #294 Diyasena
    (Tamils like the late Jeyaraj Fernandopulle
    (and now his wife) were elected from predominantly Sinhala electorates. We are yet to see vice versa)
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    Fernandopulle was a Chetty.

    Piyasena has been elected from the east on TNA ticket.

  290. Dear Mr Jeyaraj,

    Your response to Mahesh 48.

    At the end of this response when you say please don’t make me write this again I can sense the anguish you feel, which is shared by many from the Tamil speaking community. The difference is, you are thinking of the future in a realistic way and rising above petty, self centred opinions.
    As a fellow country man I have one request to make from the participants of this blogg.
    I read some comments from both communities in this blogg and cringe. I am even ashamed at the callous in human attitudes in some of them.
    Bloggers, please when you want to spite such venom which is soaked in hatread, anger and fear try and do a few things.
    1) Stop and think whether it is TRUE, NECESSARY,and HELPFUL.. If all 3 criteria are not met then let it go.
    By repeating such hateful thoughts we are destroying our souls, and preventing the healing that can take place among Srilankans.
    2) If the above step does not work straight away (as it needs practice) try this one. Look around at the faces of little children. They are innocent, hopeful,trusting and are looking at us adults to guide them. They still have the divine qualities in them. Have we not got an ethical duty to leave a peaceful country for them to live and grow? Don’t we want a safe place to age? For the children’s sake curtail the venomous thoughts and
    speech. As adults we have messed the country enough and let us use our energy to nation build and peace build.
    By taking the above steps we only have one thing to lose and that is our inflated ego and pride, not a bad loss! In fact this will help us towards our spiritual journey.

  291. Fernandopulle was a Chetty.

    Chetties are Tamils to all intents and purposes.

    And there have been Sinhala MPs voted by a Tamil electorate.

  292. #305-sjoseph

    It is Gandhi who supported the separation of Pakistan from India
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    From what i can remember it was Ghandhi who was pleading with Jinnah to give up his demand for seperation, but Jinnah was resolute that the muslims needed their own country.

  293. Dear DBSJ,
    Happy birthday to you (21/05/2010).

    #307 Well said sir.

    The message from tamils in Sri lanka to our diaspora could be this…

    Thirukural:
    அமரகத்து ஆற்றறுக்கும் கல்லாமா அன்னார்
    தமரின் தனிமை தலை.

    Explanation: Solitude is more to be desired than the society of those who resemble the untrained horses which throw down (their riders) in the fields of battle.

    போர்க்களத்தில் கீழே தள்ளி விட்டுத் தப்பித்து ஓடிப்போகும் குதிரையைப் போன்றவர்களின் நட்பைப் பெறுவதைக் காட்டிலும் தனித்து இருப்பது எவ்வளவோ சிறப்புடையதாகும்

    Thank you very much for the wishes…..DBSJ

  294. #299 Don

    but I did not see anyone in the past or among the current Tamils who is of the same stature as Gandhi
    ————————————————————–
    Maybe, but there is or was a Nehru in the TNA, if i remember correctly. i think Nehru wanted to go and see the LTTE political leaders surrender, but mahinda told him not to risk his life, he mahinda will handle everything perfectly.

  295. #308 Stephen jones

    Chetties are Tamils to all intents and purposes.
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    We are all homosapiens to all intents and purposes.

  296. # 309. shankar

    You are right. Gandhi Pleaded with Jinnah. That is the first part. The story does not end there.

    However when Jinnah was firm, he convinced Indian leaders to agree for separation of pakistan to avoid blood path and violence.

  297. Dear DBSJ
    many Happy return of this day
    parathy

    Thank you for wishes.Its not today but May 21st………DBSJ

  298. Thank you very very much

    Please sing more hossanas to my great leader honourbable Veluppillai Pirabaharan

  299. 305. sjoseph | Hope you also would support independent country for Tamils for graceful separation from Srilanka. I think division of a country is not a Sin against God. But Loss of Innocent lives & Killing humans for the cause of united country is Sin indeed.
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    Division of a country on racial lines is against god. Thinking on racial lines is also against god. When India and Pakistan was separated, Lord Mountbatten’s secretary wrote a book where he said the division would cause eternal trouble between the two countries and already they have had four wars between them. Ghandi totally opposed division and he even offered the Prime Ministers post of Indipendent India to Jinna if the country was undivided but Jinna refused to accept the deal. Jinna thought on racial lines while Ghandi thought that all people are equal and no racialism. So division of SL to Elam does not mean there would be a stop to killings. Please understand that peace needs joint efforts of all parties and it will come if all parties contribute. The best way for peace in SL is for Tamils to live in Sinhala area’s and vice versa. This is how it is in Colombo and there are no issues.

  300. dear jey,
    wishing you a happy birthday jey though i have differences of opinion with you still i have learnt a lot from you and i cherish your writings i hope that one day you and your family will go back to srilanka and sustain a proud tamil culture there.

    Thank You very much……..DBSJ

  301. Wishing you a happy birthday DBSJ. Some people wished you on the wrong date and should be taken to Nanthikadal lagoon and shot. For me every birthday is very special because i am nearly double your age. i hope you will also will have a long life like me. Every year that you keep writing you will be contributing a lot though you might not realise it. I know you have delayed the next article to coincide with your birthday.

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    Thank You very much Shankar for the wishes . But no I have not delayed my articles to coincide with my birthday. And no, I wont be writing this week either. I am so sorry for not writing but I have been involved in a research assignment these days and was unable to write

  302. DBSJ, i forgot to tell you that when it comes to your birthday don’t forget that you were born in Srilanka and not canada. Once a Srilankan always a Srilankan. It is Srilankan time that matters, not these stupid adopted countries time differences. Were you born in the morning or night?

    9.45 am (lanka time) on a Friday at Sulaimans Hospital, Col 14…………DBSJ

  303. 319. shankar :- I just dont believe you are double DBS’s age. For lies of this magnitude, I would recommend you be sent to Chennai hospital to look after our beloved teaKandy

  304. 9.45 am (lanka time) on a Friday at Sulaimans Hospital, Col 14…………DBSJ
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    I got it spot on. From your writings i knew you were a day born like me.
    Your numerelogy is 3 which is also mine, so it made it easier to deduce.
    By the way did you know that Prabha was 8 just like JR and Sirima. Difficult to forget these 3 for a long time. Love them or hate them, forget them not.

    Mahinda and fonseka are a 9 which is military types. country is too small to accommodate 2 of the same.

  305. Happy Birthday DBS Malli

    May you live long

    May your mighty pen continue writing fearlessly

    God bless you

    Thank you very much James. Where were you all these days?……….DBSJ

  306. DBS,
    Wish you a happy birthday

    Came to know accidently when visited your blog!
    Enjoy your day
    Lakshman

    Thank You very much………DBSJ

  307. Dear Mr Jeyaraj,

    Happy Birthday, and wish you many more. Enjoy your day.

    I pray that almighty keep you courageous to continue to write what is right and beneficial for the greater good.

    Thank You very much…………DBSJ

  308. Don # 317
    We are striving to get liberated from the clutches of opportunistic Sinhala Buddhist Srilanka and not from secular India. We are ready to work with SAARC and not ready to work with Devils
    A Ealam citizen

  309. 326. ealam citizen:- Some SL Tamils in Tamil Nadu wants to come back and live with the Sinhala devils. Tamil’s in Colombo stay put with their Sinhala devils rather than getting back to Jaffna to live with their Tamil brotheran. Moment the war ended, Sinhala devils travel to Jaffna and Nagadeepa and my Jaffna Tamil friends are thrilled because they rent their old sheds to these devils at exorbitant prices. Tamils are going to Anuradahpura, Polonnaruwa sight seeing, an opportunity they did not get for 30yrs and mingling with these devils. My Jaffna Tamil friend says he prefers his daughter to marry the Sinhalese devil than her current Muslim boy friend! Can you learn something from this my friend? & do you have any friends or children or relatives dead or missing after the last Elam war just as much as I have?

  310. 316. K Sivapalan | May 20th, 2010 at 5:15 am
    Thank you very very much
    Please sing more hossanas to my great leader honourbable Veluppillai Pirabaharan
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    Hossana?
    Here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZsddR2Q8ow

    Also i was not born yesterday. I seriously doubt your real name is Sivapalan.

  311. DBS,
    After reading various comments I have realized that your birthday was celebrated recently. Please accept my rather late birthday wishes and many more years of health and happiness.

    In a sea of mediocrity and conformity that is Sri Lankan journalism, you stand tall, towering over everyone like a shining beacon. May you have the strength to go on and on and inspire many young journalists in the years to come.

    Thank You very much Ranjan.Actually the birthday is today May 21st. So you are not late at all………..DBSJ

  312. 328 ugk

    Good video – Hosanna

    I expected to see some beautiful dark Tamil people, but who are these clowns. They are not Tamil people. This is the problem with us. We are ashamed of our colour.

    WHY ?.

  313. Couldnt read the blog for the past two days.

    Here is me Wishing you the very best in life. may God keep you and your loved ones in perfect health and joy.

    ‘Esto perpetua’ – Be Thou Forever.

    Dilshan

    Thank You Very much Dilshan.Esto Perpetua…………DBSJ

  314. Happy Birthday DBSJ.

    incidentally,my birth day also falls on the same day. (may 21).

    Thank You very much Joseph. A very happy birthday to you too………….DBSJ

  315. marusira,
    Tamil Nadu no different from Sri Lanka.
    Put the fairest skinned people (not that i have anything against fair skin). And these people then use skin bleaching cream to make sure they look even fairer on the screen.

  316. # 327 Don
    I observe in your posting you frequently used Sinhala devils. I feel sorry.
    You know once Srilankan president JR mentioned about Devil. That is “we are ready to cooperate with any Devil”. At that time it was understood by our neighbors “Srilanka has no dependability to this region.” In my posting I mentioned the same devil which was mentioned by JR not the Sinhala people.
    Through the prolonging conflict and frequent displacement to this precious moment my Biological unit (my immediate Family) is safe in the God’s hand. This does not mean we escaped to foreign countries including Srilanka.
    Thanthai chelva once expressed God has to safe Tamils. If you watch the latest HRW photos, it shows God also failed to protect Tamil youths. In the same passage now I negate the God.
    God is not the only creator. Modern Human succeeded in creating a life artificially with the help of computers
    Now I have to create an international standard safe nation to my own children. For this I need a supper computer one reason is most of our people have short memory.
    I appreciate our Diaspora tamils effort in this line actually they have to safe money at least to hire a supper computer to accomplish our lively need.
    A Ealam citizen

  317. 335 ugk
    You are exactly right. A person like Whoopi Goldberg will never get a leading role in a movie in this region (India, Sri Lanka etc.). Just look at the Hindi movies and how often have they got a dark girl even in a dance sequence. It is really pathetic and for a girl to be born dark is like a curse. People talk about colour bar and all sorts of human inequalities, but when it comes to action even the coloured people treat darker people differently.

  318. #298-ugk

    And it was from the school i studied at and from the Sinhalese that i was being force fed this mahavamsa nonsense as ‘education’
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    1. It was written in pali language.

    2. It is in 3 parts. The first part is a historical record from the coming of Vijaya in 543 BCE to the reign of King Mahasena (334 – 361) (6th Century BC to 4th Century AD). This was written in the 6th century AD by by Ven. Mahanama Maha Thera, an uncle of king Dhatusena (460-478). His work was greatly influenced by the Dipavamsa written five centuries earlier.

    3. The Culavamsa, which is considered the second part of the Mahavamsa was written in the 13th century AD. This chronicles the time between the arrival of the Tooth Relic in the 4th century AD and the end of the reign of King Parakramabahu the Great. Credit for this part is given to the thero Dhammakitti, but many historians believed that it was authored by many monks.

    4.The third and final part was written over many years, concluding in the year 1815, when the British occupied the whole of Lanka by military force.

    Now my dear ugk, you are grumbling that when you go around telling the sinhalese that the mahavamsa is a load of tosh, they are looking at you like robots. Probably they must be thinking you are an insect or something. You are lucky you did not get two “kane paara” and got some teeth knocked out. In some less tolerant countries you might have even been beheaded.

  319. 342. shankar:- I just don’t know how you remember these things but from memory I think you are right. I also know that culawamsa was written by a priest & there is a family living in SL who claim they are relatives of the author of culawamsa. May be you send UGK up in one of your hot air balloons!

  320. Belated B’day wishes DBSJ.

    My dad wanted to be a journalist but ended up working for Govt even though he studied Journalism. I never had an inkling towards writing profession but people like you and few others have made me to think if I didn’t choose the right profession.

    Looking forward to your writings.

    Thank you very much………..DBSJ

  321. Shankar
    I hope in your lifetime AlQueda won’t have a nuclear bomb.
    The oil rig that sank in the gulf of mexico is suspicious.
    The biggest problem to the world in the future is going to be Al Queda.
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    Dear oh dear.
    You have so much to learn about what really goes on in the world.
    Al Qaeda is nothing other than a branch of the CIA.

  322. Shankar
    You are lucky you did not get two “kane paara” and got some teeth knocked out. In some less tolerant countries you might have even been beheaded.
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    Sri Lanka a tolerant country?
    Ha! That takes the cake. Perhaps white van kidnappings and murder are a sign of its ‘tolerance’.
    And perhaps its record as being one of the world leaders in killing and brutalising its journalists is also a sign of its ‘tolerance’

  323. 346ugk

    All Shankar was trying to say was that there are less tolerant countries than Sri Lanka. He was spot on when he said that you might have even been beheaded.
    Sri Lanka is not perfect, but still better than most places.
    The thirty year war would not have happened, if not for the Tiger terrorists. What did they achieve ?.

  324. 342. shankar

    Many people, predominantly the Tamils have commented on the Mahawamsa mentality of the Sinhalese in a derisive manner.

    Is there no truth in their words. I will be most happy if there is no truth in their words.

    Also see how the Sinhalese are changing the names of the places like Jaffna to Yaapnai, Mullaithivu to Mul’ thivu etc.

    Is it justified? Does it not amount to cultural genocide?

    I am not sure about it. Can you shed light on that.

    I am quoting the words of the President of Sri Lanka below

    ‘It is fortunate that Buddhists now enjoy the freedom and a secure atmosphere”

    He clearly says that the Budhists are enjoying freedom and secure atmosphere.

    Although Vesak is a Budhist festival it would have been more appropriate if he had talked in terms of Sri Lankans as a whole.

    Because Sri Lankans as a whole are enjoying freedom and secure atmosphere.

    Also the Vaigasi Visakam was celebrated yesterday.the same day there was Vesak for the Sinhala Budhists.

    But the President greeted only the Sinhala Budhists and he did not greet the Tamil Hindus on the Vaigasi Visakam to the best of my knowledge.

    Why is it so?

  325. The lessons learnt and the reconciliation commission is an eye wash going from the mandate.

    The mandates are

    (a) The facts and circumstances which led to the failure of the ceasefire agreement and the sequence of events that followed thereafter up to May 19 2009
    (b) Whether any person, group, or institutions directly or indirectly bear responsibility in this regard.
    (c) Lessons learnt from these events in order to ensure that there will be no recurrence.

    This doesn’t go the entire episode of the Tamil problem.

    If the International community accepts it then it will be a tragedy.

    If the UN accepts it then no human being will trust UN after wards.

    It will be injustice not only to the Tamils but to the entire humanity.

    The terms of reference for the commission is a slap on the face of the humanity.

  326. Mahesh,
    There are certain realities that only some of us understand.
    Mahinda said :‘It is fortunate that Buddhists now enjoy the freedom and a secure atmosphere”
    JR Jayawardene said: ‘If i starve the tamils the sinhalese will be happy’
    The genocide has been ongoing. They burn the Jaffna library which was to burn the ancient scriptures written in tamil.
    The Sinhalese seem not to know how to behave. They wanted to celebrate war parade this year also. But due to the rains it was cancelled. So they run to the North and create a big Buddhist parade there. Just disrespectful provocative behaviour. But i have come used to this. Its what is to be expected.

  327. #348-mahesh

    Also the Vaigasi Visakam was celebrated yesterday.the same day there was Vesak for the Sinhala Budhists.
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    Vesak is the only festival day for the Bhudhists. Hindu’s have many and i don’t know why vaigasi is held on vesak day, unless it is to show the Bhudhists that on the only day you have a festival, we too have one. Mahinda told the hindus to piss off on vesak day and rightly so.

    My sinhala friends told me that there was unprecedented crowds this year for vesak, because people were not worried about bombs going off. Probably that is why mahinda said Bhudhists can now feel free and secure. Also you must remember he is a politician, and don’t just go by his words only. Action speaks louder than words and he is not such a bad fellow really, though i’am not sure of the others around him.

  328. Dear Mahesh, if Tamils complain that they are discriminated against how is it that the Muslims hardly ever complain? They too speak in Tamil.

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