New Tiger Chief “KP” arrested and brought to Sri Lanka

By D.B.S. Jeyaraj

Related update: “Operation KP”: Extraordinary rendition of New Tiger Chief

Selvarasah Pathmanathan alias “KP” a.k.a Kumaran Pathmanathan was seized in Malaysia on Wednesday August 5th and brought to Sri Lanka on Thursday August 6th.

["KP"-pic: puthinam.com]

KP in his capacity as General-Secretary of the re- structured Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) was the virtual global tiger chief.

According to informed sources KP was staying in Kuala Lumpur(KL) , Malaysia when taken into custody.

Pathmanathan had met with two visitors from London, England at a hotel room in KL in the afternoon of August 5th.

He had received a call on his cellular phone. KP had then signaled to his visitors that he was going out to the corridor and walked away while conversing on the phone.

He had not returned for a long time and the when the worried visitors from Britain went out in search there was no sign of the new global tiger chief.

Meanwhile the friend who had been talking to KP on the phone had heard a sudden thud and some noise while chatting. The phone went dead and repeated calls were not successful.

The friend then alerted some assistants of KP in Malaysia who went in search of KP to the place where he was staying in KL. The place was empty but KP’s insulin and syringes and other medical stuff was still there.

The visitors from London also got alarmed and contacted circles close to KP.

Meanwhile KP seized in Malaysia was taken to Bangkok in Thailand.

Sri Lankan authorities were contacted and a team from the Police Terrorist Investigation Department flew to Bangkok in the early hours of Thurasday August 6th.

The team returned with Pathmanathan alias KP on a special flight on the same day.

KP was handcuffed and had a mask covering his head and face when disembarking from the plane at Katunayake Airport.

He was whisked away in a vehicle with tinted glasses to a high-security , secret location run by the terrorism investigation dept personnel.

KP is to be interrogated intensively by Sri Lankan anti-terrorist sleuths.

It is widely believed that the arrest was made possible through “inside information” supplied by some members of the LTTE abroad who were opposed to KP donning the tiger leadership mantle after the demise of supremo Velupillai Prabhakaran.

KP was at one time the chief arms procurer for the LTTE and headed a tiger division known as Overseas purchases dept or simply KP dept.

He went into voluntary retirement in 2003 and married a Thai national

In January this year, KP was appointed the LTTE’s international relations chief.

As the senior most LTTE member alive, KP assumed leadership of the tigers after Prabhakaran’s demise.

This was vehemently opposed by a section of the Diasporic tigers led by Perinbanayagam Sivaparan alias Nediyavan

After protracted talks an agreement was arrived at. KP assumed control of the LTTE as “Thalaimai Seyalar” or Chief Secretary/Secretary-General.

A cabal of influential LTTE and pro-LTTE members abroad continued to oppose KP’s leadership and were engaged in conspiratorial moves to sabotage the accord.

The LTTE hardliners were disappointed with KP’s public acknowledgement that Prabhakaran was dead and also his announcement that the armed struggle had ended.

His “arrest” was a consequence of the internal opposition to KP it is suspected.

KP known as Tharmalingam Shanmugam Kumaran in India was proclaimed as a wanted offender by that country through INTERPOL.

India wanted INTERPOL to apprehend KP for interrogation regarding charges like Criminal conspiracy, arms smuggling, violation of Indian terrorist act, breach of Indian explosives act and the assassination of Rajiv Gandhi.

Pathmanathan a native of Myliddy in Jaffna was born on April 6th 1955. He is an old student of Nadeswara College, Kankesanthurai and Mahajana College ,Thellippalai.

Pathmanathan was also an undergraduate at the Jaffna university but did not complete his degree.

The following is a Reuters report by C.Bryson Hull on the arrest of KP:

COLOMBO (Reuters)-The new head of the Tamil Tigers, the separatist group defeated by the Sri Lankan military after a 25-year war, has been arrested in Thailand, Sri Lanka’s military said on Thursday.

Selvarajah Pathmanathan was wanted on two Interpol warrants and took the reins of the remnants of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) after their defeat in May.

“He has been arrested in Bangkok. That is all we know at the moment,” military spokesman Brigadier Udaya Nanayakkara said.

There was no immediate comment from Thai officials.

Pathmanathan, better known as KP during his decades running the LTTE’s arms and smuggling networks, took over as the public leader of the separatist group after Sri Lanka’s military announced victory on May 18 after a 25-year war.

He was the first LTTE official to acknowledge the death of Tiger founder and leader Vellupillai Prabhakaran, who was killed in the closing days of Sri Lanka’s offensive on a narrow spit of northeastern coast where they had surrounded the rebels.

Security experts had long suspected Pathmanathan was hiding in southeast Asia.

A Western diplomat assigned to Sri Lanka met him somewhere in the region earlier this year, part of an effort to persuade the LTTE to surrender in the face of an imminent defeat and free civilians they were holding by force in the war zone.

Pathmanathan was believed to have earned millions of dollars procuring weapons for the Tigers and running smuggling operations from bases across the region including Thailand, Cambodia and Myanmar. Security experts say he had multiple passports.

Some estimates said the LTTE earned between $200-300 million from extortion, weapons sales and drug smuggling. Analysts said part of a brief struggle for Prabhakaran’s mantle after the war was to take control of its financial assets.

After the war, Pathmanathan said the LTTE would try non-violent means to achieve its goal of a separate state for Sri Lanka’s minority Tamils. Among his first initiatives was to try to form a transnational government-in-exile.

DBS Jeyaraj can be reached at dbsjeyaraj@yahoo.com

495 Comments

  1. Some people may be happy about arrest of KP. But I think its a big disaster. KP was the man who was trying to transform LTTE into a democratic,non – violent movement. The Tamils will benefit if the LTTE made that transition. Now without KP that chance is gone. It’s a sad day for those who wanted a different LTTE

  2. Congratulations DBS on your scoop

    t is clear that KP was RENDITIONED and brought to Colombo. The Malaysian blokes would have done this at the behest of New Delhi. In order to cover up the KL angle they brought him to Thailand and then Lanka. After sometime KP will be quietly taken to India or Indian agents will come here to quiz him

    Its obvious that KP was betrayed by his own lk. The recent intra- LTTE strife with Nediyavan and his cabal shows clearly who the informants were

  3. I think this is a rumor.. i checked a few websites but nobody has confirmed it.. they still maintain it as a ‘rumor’. Incase if this is true, the chances of having a peaceful and sensible diaspora leadership to solve the ethnic issue hangs in balance!

  4. DBSJ,
    Did you get your information about “KP was brought to Srilanka” from reliable souces?
    You are the fist one to report this.

  5. This incident proves Tamils have no enemy other than Tamils. Why should we blame Singhalese? Why should we blame others such as India, China, etc? This is the time silent Tamil community wake up and willing to protect innocent Tamils in SL. Diaspora Tamils should not accept any form of LTTE. I strongly believe that anti KP sections that hold LTTE’s money pot; mainly based in UK must be behind this plot. I won’t surprise if I see mysterious murders and kidnaps will continue among the Tamils overseas. God can only save our people

  6. Well, now we know for sure that these guys were never really interested in “liberating” Tamils. They are just after power and pelf (as evidenced by the betrayal of one of their own). It is now time for the diaspora to completely shun anyone that has anything to do with LTTE. Over the year “Tamil” has become, unfortunately, synonymous with “Tigers” across the globe.

    We the “ordinary” Tamils are far better than these minions masquerading as liberators. May better sense prevail. We need to regain the dignity and standing in the international community. I am sure these guys will soon come up with another Methahu or Athi Methahu Thalaivar (Hon. or Rt. Hon leader). The days of this nonsense are long gone.

    We need to establish ourselves as honorable, respectable, law abiding and hardworking people. Just shut these criminals out.

  7. Another one bites the dust, another one another one.. One by one the masters of terror will see justice..

  8. Please leave Sri Lanka alone. Don’t give government excuses to prolong the agony of Tamil civilians. LTTE diaspora should be wiped out if Sri Lanka to be peaceful. They live in comfort but trying to use innocent Tamil civilians for their goal of creating a Tamil country.

  9. Oh well. I guess at least the man would not be bumped off without a trial as it seems to be happening to the rest of the top LTTE leaders getting fished out from the IDP camps.
    KP is a lucky man in a way…

  10. Dear DBSJ,

    Many thanks for the write-up and the credible ‘information’ that I could rely on.

    As I have read most of your controversial views, once I feared for your safety, but I guess with the arrest of KP, the last had been removed.

    Please keep your views, analysis alive and well and urge those who were mislead to ‘invest’ their hard earned money for the poor folks in the North!

    As always, I wish you the very best!

    Lalith

  11. CONGRATULATIONS ‘KP’.you KASUTHAI tried to have a free living from the collections of TAMIL DIASPORA.
    It was a futile effort.This IDIOT ccould hace gone to school & learned a TRADE to make a decent living.

  12. I think it’s time LTTE to close their movement.

    If hardcore LTTE’ers are smart and wanted to continue the armed struggle, they can start a new organization called “Liberation Lions of Eelam” and Lion as their symbol.
    If they get banned, so what, no one can fly the Lion flag too.
    :-)

  13. Sends out a clear message to those living overseas that terrorism against Sri Lanka will not be tolerated. Kudos to the team that worked behind the scenes. One hopes the diaspora will now contribute to the rebuilding of life in the NE without wasting time and money on terrorism. Perhaps KP should be extradited once interrogation is over to face the Rajiv Gandhi tribunal. The focus now should be on rebuilding NE, which the President is trying his best to do despite the massive costs involved.

  14. This kind of deception and betrayal caused the failure of the armed struggle. The morons that supplied KP’s location have made the LTTE an irrelevant organization. At least there was hope for the group’s revival under KP, and its existing international infrastructure could have been utilized to further their cause. Now these idiots will fight over the left overs in typical Tamil fashion. The sacrifice of thousands of LTTE fighters has truly become meaningless. Pseudo-tigers living in luxury, who have never witnessed the battlefield will now call for a new armed struggle.

  15. Fantastic!
    What a good news for this morning. More that a lotto!
    DBS Please give us more good news about this stupid who led the diaspora wrong and still dreaming that they can do something for Tamils. REAL FOOL!
    He was jumping with four legs and now going to dance to the tune of SL Defence and going to say that I did the right thing by killing the useless leader and helped the government.
    Whatever you say KP you will be in the hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    There will be no biriyani and pudding for you in Colombo.
    What you saw the same you will reap.
    Tamils will be in peace forever.( Kobra with no teeth)

  16. The Nediyavan cabal must be happy as the only obstacle for the Ealam armed struggle got caught

  17. Tragedy strike again, I am very sad. He is very pragmatic.. and trying to be reasonable not like VP.

  18. Dear DBS,
    Thank you for the breaking news.

    KP will be taken to north to find some hidden explosives, he will grab a hand granade hidden inside a bush and will try to kill CID and excape.

    Then army will shoot him to death.

    Thanks !
    Deva

  19. Well, now its time for the local traitors to be marched -in. We alredy bumped lasa, janak & some under world goons ,So let s start with Mr.RW and the clan , good job .MrMR

  20. Everyone has to pay for the crimes committed either in this world or after death. I think it is Jesus Christ who has said “those who take the sword dies by the sword” So, there is nothing to regret let K.P. pay the price for his sins.

  21. I mentioned in my previous comment to other article (Cabal oppose KP) , Tamils shouldn’t allow themselves to be hijacked by the LTTE remnants. I am not surprised by the KP arrest (if that is true) and it has no impact on Tamils’ legitimate struggle. Silence majority must speak out against the LTTE nut cases and participate in democratic/political process to shape up our people’s destiny. We have plenty of educated, talented people of all ages in all walks of the society We need to create an environment for new visionary and courageous leaders to emerge that could articulate our cause.. If we allow the nut cases to hijack the Tamil leadership, these nut case will take the Tamils to political oblivion.

  22. oh well thats the end for the LTTE. One thing is for sure the Singhalese know how to unite in oppression and tamils know how to divide in separation & desparation,

  23. It is a good news that internationally wanted ‘kriminal’ will not ‘lead the mafia LTTE in foreign countries ‘. It is also a blessing to Tamils in Sri Lanka that finally entirely can come out the shadow from the ruthless terror group of LTTE. Now everybody hope that peace and progress in Sri Lanka and just a viable solution to the Tamils grivereces.
    Few amoung Tamil diaspora still believe in ruthless and cruel methods of the LTTE to rule the Tamils should shame themselves. Most right thinking Tamil Diaspora should join hands with their brethen in Sri Lanka to make their live better. This is high time to use their resources to invest in Sri Lanka and create economic and social progress. We all hope that with help of international community especially India to bring a justifiable solution to ethnic problem.

  24. Excellent news! This incident shows that this is the end of the so called transnational government as well as the source of the LTTE fundings. I am sure in a few days we will be hearing that KP tried to escape from police custody with fatal consequences ;-) The other notewrthy issue that is highlighted is that there doesnt appear to be any tamil unity amongst the diaspora for betraying KP. I am sure that castro may have had a hand in this.

  25. Well done guys! really proud of you. LTTE is eating its own cult for the greediness of the leadership…

  26. Mr.DBSJ,
    I am a silent reader across the Palk Strait. Is it true that Rajapakshe brothers have sacked Dayan Jayatillake for advocating regional devolution in a newspaper? Kindly let us know.

    Thanks.

    Please get it from the horse’s mouth by reading Dayan’s interview posted on http://www.transcurrents.com

    DBSJ

  27. Amazing account of the arrest of KP. Wonder how DBS get this info but it’s wonderful.
    Trust this would be a turning point to bust the global racketeering of the LTTE.

  28. He was arrested in Thailand no DBSJ?

    See here

    So what now? What do you think will happen? Will the LTTE come up with another leader, or is it officially all over?

    Veena

  29. I think since a democratic path has been firmly announced by LTTE, they should identify two people, one in Sri Lanka and another from the proposed transnational to co-chair an interim LTTE admin.

    In Sri Lanka it could be a under a different name, as a new political party. Sri Lanka if a true democracy must allow a new party to start right?

  30. Dear Tamil friends.

    You are looking for the home land at the wrong place. It is in Tamil nadu. That is where all of you belong to. If you want to live in this country, try to be a Sri Lankan. You will be more than welcome then. It is high time you leave the Tiger’s stripes behind now which has earned such a bad reputation for you in the past as a human race and try to be just Tamils who can be accepted by every one.

  31. What goes around comes around.

    Hope rest of the tamil people will learn a good lesson . Never ever do cruel things to other people. The man in upstairs is watching very carefuly. It is only a matter of time.

  32. Year 2009 is full of joy for peace loving Tamils around the world. What a great news this morning.

    However something is missing here. KP is NOT a citizen of Sri Lanka now. He is a Thai. If he can be taken like this to an island called Sri Lanka and what his country [Thai or whatever it is] is doing now to protect its own citizen. The lawyer of Tamil Eelam shadow committee Viswanathan Rudrakumaran made big noise last weekend in France. What is he doing in KP’s matter? Does he not know that this is serious violation of international extradition law.

    Thai govt could have done this many years ago. Why now? Like VP, KP also had high hopes about his connections and money. Finally it is a crash landing to the LTTE.

    If this can happen to KP, this can happen to any of the LTTE members abroad! Mind you guys you are not safe wherever your are!!! It does not matter whether you hold a Canadian passport or US passport. If you are a LTTE, you are persona non grata in your country.

    Sri Lanka is really smart. I am thinking of moving there.

  33. I’m shame to call my self as Tamil….. We never going live happily till we have ETTAPAN in Tamil community. I’m very sad to here this…

  34. Congratulations!!!!
    This is the last chapter of Ltte, according to Kumarakuruparan, KP is in to peace. I would like to ask that ass hole, why in the world he sold arms then??? It’s all over for ltte. Good news 4 all Sri lankans. I think we should publicly hang his ass. Let the wold know who we are & what we to to terrorists.

  35. Roger 8 –

    “Another one bites the dust, another one another one.. One by one the masters of terror will see justice..”

    I’m afraid your statement is as hollow as Gothabaya’s head. KP was trying to steer the LTTE into a peaceful path. Those that betrayed him are the masters of terror and with KP gone, they are going to be in full swing. Soon, Prabhakaran will be “resurrected”, and violence unleashed.

    Anthony – 9:

    “Please leave Sri Lanka alone.”

    Please leave the tamil civilians in those camps alone. Let them be free.

    “Don’t give government excuses to prolong the agony of Tamil civilians.”

    Was Lasantha and that astrologer who was jailed for an unfavorable prediction “Tamil” civilians? Stop making “Tiger” excuses for a corrupt, draconian, terrorist Government.

    “LTTE diaspora should be wiped out if Sri Lanka to be peaceful.”

    Hardly. Even if the LTTE Diaspora were to be wiped off, the Government would still see Tigers everywhere and would use that excuse for years to come.

    Nimal – 11:

    “Oh well. I guess at least the man would not be bumped off without a trial as it seems to be happening to the rest of the top LTTE leaders getting fished out from the IDP camps.
KP is a lucky man in a way…”

    You are kidding right? Have those doctors got a trial yet? Even if there were a trial, it would be a laughable farce for those doctors. More to the point, the government has not formally acknowledged capturing KP, nor would it be in their interests to do so.

    Lalith – 12

    “As I have read most of your controversial views, once I feared for your safety, but I guess with the arrest of KP, the last had been removed.”

    Perhaps DBS can verify this, but I doubt DBS was ever worried for his safety from KP. Au Contraire, now that KP is gone, those that opposed KP would be more of a threat to DBS.

    “Please keep your views, analysis alive and well and urge those who were mislead to ‘invest’ their hard earned money for the poor folks in the North!”

    Why would they want to do that(invest)?To pay for the corrupt SL machinery? SL just received the IMF loan. Why would SL need diaspora money for? Talk about “misleading”….Please stop your “misleading” first.

    Kurusilva – 14

    “It was a futile effort.This IDIOT ccould hace gone to school & learned a TRADE to make a decent living.”

    Not quite. KP with all his money could have just disappeared after the fall of the LTTE. He could have been living in mansions on the beaches and no one would ever care. The fact that he put himself on the line for what he believed in is highly commendable. He did not go on a war path. The fact that you think it was idiocy speaks volumes about yourself. You know the saying, one sees in others what one is oneself.

    Gajaba – 17

    “This is indeed a great news for peace lovers of Sri Lanka.”

    You don’t know how wrong you are. KP wanted to follow peace, those that betrayed him are going to start the war drums.

    Patriot – 18

    “The focus now should be on rebuilding NE, which the President is trying his best to do despite the massive costs involved.”

    Please tell the president to follow democracy first. There is really no cost involved in adhereing to democracy. For starters, he can lift that ridiculous media-ban on non-state media organizations for the Northern elections.

  36. DBSJ, this is yet to be confirmed. So please be careful of Tiger wrath and their extended army of thugs bred in Toronto. TamilNet is silent on this. Why? KP has hundreds of millions of dollars he could have used to help the refugees. Tigers are only using misery for their evil ideology. If the Diaspora really cared, they should come to Sri Lanka and HELP these people instead of buffering Tiger coffers with their hard earned money. Alternatively they can claim Eelam in Scarborough, because just like Sinhala expatriates, or all other S.Asian expatriates who migrated to the West in search of money NO ONE will ever return for good. That is fact. None of those third generation Canadian Tamils some of who are welfare queens, will NEVER return but will keep sending money for Sri Lankan tamils to destroy themselves. DBSJ be careful.. I dont think the LTTE approved your news flash.

  37. If this news is true, I think assuming he was betrayed by fellow LTTE men ignores the fact that KP has been exposing himself starting in March/April. One can’t have blogs, skype phone conferences, TV interviews showing the Airport, the interior of the home as well as a good outline of his image, etc., when he/she is on the most wanted list of some countries.. Especially when technology makes it so easy to trace your blog postings, your phone calls, etc.

  38. many of you are gullible to believe this untrustworthy guy KP who is masquerading as tiger chief but in essence he is working for lankan intelligence agencies.

  39. This is a diasater for LTTE. We tamils are a bunch of idiots who devide separation & desparation, for a small reason. That is it no more LTTE. Do not even think about a seperate land. Snhalese are so powerful and united. For god’s sake do not even think about touch Sri Lanka or Singhalese. RIP KP.

  40. A big dissapointment to Ranil Wickramasingha, Chandrika and Mangala and other schemers who wish to ride into power on the Sinhala/Tamil diferences.

  41. At last the honorable Tamils are relieved that this Drug peddling, money laundering third grade humbug is arrested. Surely Tamils don’t need one crook (Prabakaran) to be replaced by another to guide their lives!

  42. It has been an open secret among the knowledgeable people that KP was operating from Far East. Indian RAW knew about it and they were waiting for a time to get KP. It is India behind this operation as they don’t want Tamils to have a proper leadership. Again the Tamils have been betrayed by current Indian establishment . KP wanted to reform the LTTE as a democratic peoples movement. By capturing KP the end losers are going to be India and Srilanka as the next Tiger leadership will be undercover and more militant! Tamils will have to work as one and organise themselves to get their freedom from the Srilankan Terror state.

  43. I strongly beleive that the govt.should not waste money and time trying to intorrgrate him but should take himto recover somes arms and thenhe willbe shot while trying to escape best solution

  44. Hi DBSJ

    You may get name as good journalist… but, in my point of view, you have not done any thing for your race and your people… basically doing opposite things…

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    I am only a journalist and nothing more. I am not a politician to say I am oing things for my race and my people. As a journalist my duty is only to the truth and my readers. In any case I have not brought the Tamil people to utter destruction and dvastation like Velupillai Prabhakaran and LTTE , Have I?

  45. It is interesting that the GoSL and its supporters are boasting about this when in fact as DBSJ has written, he was betrayed by other LTTE members. I guess we will never see this in the SRi Lankan media.

  46. El Dorado!

    GOSL should rob this bastard left and right before Eelamizing him through an axe.

    Proud Sri Lankans too have a role to play in this wonderful era. Let’s invent more stealth methods and systems to divide willing Tamil terrorists and separatists just like we do with rodents, cockroaches etc… and voila facilitate their Eelamization!

    Never forget… Tamil terrorism and separatism are godsend opportunities… never should they be looked ar as ‘problems’.

    Full credit to our leaders, diplomats and the defence folks.

  47. Ok. Be truth journalist if you want to be that only… Donot spread speculation or write abt speculation to make further damage or blow to our community… Pls..

    DBSJ RESPONDS:

    You flatter me. Do I have the power to damage our community? And also what damage can anyone do when compared to the damage done by the LTTE to Tamils? Where were you when I wrote articles urging the LTTE to do a course correction in the interests of the Tamils? Have you ever asked VP not to do damage to the community?

  48. Well done Interpol for arresting KP. What about arresting Mrs. Kotelawala supposed to be in Singapore.

  49. Anpulla Annoi,
    Yet another scoop. Well done. East or West, YOU ARE THE BEST ANNOI!

    Another blow. Where does the transnational government stand now?

    Please keep writing Annoi.

    Concerned+Worried Thamizhachchi

  50. Dear DBS

    Pathmanathan has been arrested is headline news now. According to reliable main steream news media like CNN,USAToday, Reutors (not by the Tamil webcasters) he has been arrested in Thailand.

    ["Tamil Tiger 'leader' arrested in Thailand(CNN) -- A leader of the defeated Tamil Tiger rebel group has been arrested in Bangkok, Thailand, state television in Sri Lanka reported Thursday. Selvarasa Padmanathan, also known as KP, was the "self-appointed ... leader and chief arms dealer" of..... USAToday]

    According to the London Scheme for extradition within the Commonwealth of Nov 2002, extradition from Malaysia to Sri Lanka is not a problem but could be a problem only from Thailand. KP is supposed to be a Thailand citizen now and that may complicate matters.

    That may be the reason that KP has not been extradited to Sri Lanka yet. No media has reported yet that KP has been taken to Sri Lanka. Only you are saying with minor details that KP has been taken to Sri Lanka and how he was taken.

    As usual you have a periscope to see things in Sri lanka.

    Why do you have to expose the fact that you know nothing about anything?…………DBSJ

  51. The Best news after V>P’s Capture and Death,all those who sympathysed and were involved with the LTTE should be brought to Justice and wiped off ,as the world would be better of without terrorists and terror, this is also a Wake up call to all Western & European powers not to sponsor Terrorist organaizations and their friends and collectively wipe out the Terrorists from the world.Take MR – and his Government as an example that whithin 3 years in office they wiped out all terrorism 3 cheers & many more.

    Well done, we are with you all 1001% to support in wiping out and unearthing all those who helped.Lets wake up and Build the nation to what it was before Unitedly.

  52. This is the funniest thing I have read or heard. Self appointed General Secretary?

    “KP in his capacity as General-Secretary of the re- structured Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) was the virtual global tiger chief.”

    Who told yu he was self -appointed?…………………DBSJ

  53. [What about arresting Mrs. Kotelawala supposed to be in Singapore.]

    Sri Lankans have a ‘soft corner’ for Tamil terrorists and their sponsors. After all they were a award winning bunch, right?

    he he he… Until every Tamil terrorist and their sidekicks have been brought to justice… can a worthy Sri Lankan ever sleep peacefully?

    NO WAY!

  54. Ok, the great investigative journalist DBSJ,

    Where is Pottu Amman? can u tell us?
    (before comes out in flash news)

    Thanx,
    Varma

    I dont think you know what investigative journalism is. So dont use it wrongly………DBSJ

  55. I dont know whether to be happy or sad. Im happy that a money laundering, weapons smuggling terrorist wanted by the interpol is caught. But in the end he seemed to have at least give up the path of violence, and I wonder if his capture will open the door to the more hardline LTTEs who might try to resurrect the war.

  56. How long will you people keep fighting for your differences? You Tamils think you can have your paradise here on earth by capturing north of Sri Lanka. You Sinhalese do you think Sri Lanka only belongs to us? How blind and short sighted you both. We live only short time people. Why do you enjoy it with love not hatred. It’s time reach out in brotherhood. Not to fight in difference.

    There is no ill treatment to Tamil in Sri Lanka NOW. Sinhalese had learn their lesson not to put down other nationalists. Tamils must remember Sinhalese were treated badly too during civil war. Sinahalese could not go to North while our brother tamils live all over the country. Yes, In 1983 it was a Holocaust for Tamils. I’m really sad and tell you that MOST of the Sinhalese were sad too. It was a heartless small Sinhalese Mob who involved in it. Not the whole Sinhalese people. Most of the Sinhalese was against it and some even when out of their way to save some of their friends and relatives. They did not stand against it for the fear of the Mob. So Whole Sinhalese nation is not to be blamed. And in return over the year so many Sinhalese were killed too.

    Now it’s time to put the past behind. Stop this separatism think of reunion.

  57. It’s time for our 8-man teams to pay ‘visits’ to those overseas coolies who funded Tamil terrorists for 25 long years… and killed Sri Lankans EN MASSE.

    KP’s arrest must be used as an excellent, strong stepping stone to embark on those missions.

    Invent, create and implement methods and systems to make sure that Tamil terrorism and separatism don’t ever fly again in Sri Lanka.

  58. This is another blow to our road of winning. Even now barbaric SL govenment kill thousands of tamils each and every day from IDP camps. Who will protect us?

  59. #74 Jagath,

    OK let’s say both Tamils and Sinhalese stop fighting and wants to live in unity. Is this really possible under such an autocratic government?

    In fact Tamil Civilians in Srilanka are not even fighting with the fellow Sinhalese. They just want to heal and try to move on. We(Yes, I am a Tamil) want them to live too, they had enough already.

    Can you get people get the current government or elect a government that can…

    Get 300,000 people in the camps get to their home?
    Give the media freedom so at least people know what is happening?
    Stop looking at every Tamil as ltte and give them a chance to live peacefully?
    Stop torturing ex-cadres and killing them in private jails instead rehabilitate them?
    Stop controlling everything by power and military means and still pretends to be democratic?
    Build the environment that will create goodwill between different communities?!

    Today’s government justifies the cause more than working on a solution.

  60. DBSJ, I remember about 2 years ago it was announced with fanfare in the media that KP was arrested in Thailand by the authorities. Then, just as quickly it was a denied.

    Was he arrested then?

    If he was arrested then why was he released?

    Have powers on high been protecting KP, and that protection, for reasons yet unclear, been withdrawn?

  61. To DBSJ,

    DBSJ I think when Sooriyakumar refers to “speculation” he is worried about the harm that would be caused to the judases who betrayed KP. Seems Sooriyakumar belongs to that faction.

    It is a fine scoup DBSJ as always you have been impartial and I slaute you on another good write up. Keep up the good work and do not waste your time replying to idiotic comments made by some. You are a very good journalist and a journalist respected by all the communities.

  62. Milly(#79),

    You stole my thought. I was precisely thinking the same thing. There is an Australian woman in London who gave cyanide to our children. There is no question of credible evidence. There are very clear photos and videos even in public domain. No soul on earth can deny that. The next news I wish to hear is this woman being brought to justice by UK judicial system. Let us ask UK authorities what would they do if they learn that there is a Sri Lank an woman living in Australia who gave cyanide to British children. Dear Milly, keep raising this issue until it becomes the next big talking point. Thanks.

  63. Thanks President. Thanks for everybody who got involved for this matter. One question.. Would it be possible the money which he has colleted to bring to our country for developments in north & east area. If it is possible ,It is great… God Bless Our Country.

  64. Only reason KP changed to “non violent” is because his mater murderer is dead. Had Prabhakaran is alive he would have been still supplying him arms through all the illegal activities.

  65. My dear Tamil friends don’t be fool by SL propaganda, events like this should make each of us to do more to Tamil cause.

    I am sure Indian leaders scratching there head looking at Chinese agents art work with Sinhalese friends.

  66. Hi,

    I can see various ideas are being put out here, but what i feel is that it’s important to learn to respect each other and value each others life.

    It doesn’t matter whether you speak tamil, sinhala, english, etc. it’s all about how much you care about others.

    Basically, we will not require every tom, dick & harry to have seperate states or anything but, all what we need is to live as human beings in this world. I believe the people who govern this world, country, etc., also should keep this in their mind and simply make this world a peaceful place where people respect people in all means.

    may god bless this world!!

  67. Rajah, remember this a blog where people are free to express their view and opinions. If you dont like it, tough luck and dont bother reading it.

  68. How come always Singhalese keep wining and we are losing all the time? Are we a lesser nation? Why India, China, Russia, etc support only Singhalese and why nobody takes Thamilians seriously? I think we should seriously ponder over these issues if we want to have a place on earth. The US cannot capture Osama Bin Laden but Singhalese can capture KP. How come? I am asking everybody who believes that Thamils are a great nation.

  69. To Selvaraj:

    It is because the LTTE is known to be cold blooded murderers and criminals. Somewhere down the line VP lost the plot and started killing everyone including his own people, e.g. Neelan Tiruchelvam, Rajiv Gandhi etc

  70. What did Jesus mean when He said “all who take up the sword, will die by the sword”?
    Mahatma Gandhi did not take up the sword but he shook the entire British Empire.
    Martin Luther King did not take up the sword but we now have a Black President in the US.
    Fight the good fight within a solid Democratic framework and strive to establish, Equal Rights, Human Rights, and a good Judicial system. Nobody prospers in a divided country

  71. I am really sad. I feel KP was the right guy to lead tigers and transform the LTTE into a moderate organization.

  72. to comment 78

    whether kp is hardcore or softcore is immaterial.srilanka government has to go after any ltte’s. that is their job. the way you say if they try to be devious and too smart they will pay the penalty just like many other governments have. i agree with you that hardcore will take over now. but then the government has to go after them too. the key to this is india. if the government works closely with india it can be achieved, whether hrdcore o softcore. for this it has to continue to have a good relationship with india. if MR makes the mistake of VP and breaks with india there will be a lot of trouble for srilanka. i think MR is now pushing it a bit playing to the gallery because of impending eletions, like his recent statement he wont be a puppet aimed at india. if another country gives you some advice that is in your interest and you follow it , it does not mean you have become a puppet. it shows you have become sensible. after all india’s objectives and srilanka’s objectives are the same. no eelam and a peaceful srilanka and india for ever. VP had indiaphobia. i hope MR also does not catch that disease.

  73. Tamils,

    Whether we liked the LTTE or disliked it and whether we agreed with KP or disagreed with him, the arrest of KP is an another great victory to the Rajapakse-regime, while it is an another blow to the Eelam Tamils.

    The news of that KP’s arrest was made possible through “inside information” fell heavy into my heart.
    Is it the definite “fate” of Tamils?

  74. dear selvaraj,
    see if you can compute this logic. people are judged by their deeds, not race creed or wealth. this man was part of an organisation that did a lot of harm to people. having someone like osama does not make a great nation. the less you have people like them more people will take you seriously. you have been made to believe a lot of hype and propaganda. this is in fact a win for tamils. this may not evident to you straight away .

  75. This is good news, one by one hunt them for a better tomorrow. Perhaps, such guys are a burden to the whole world, the society we live in, and should not be allowed to breath the next breath of air…!

  76. My dear tamil diaspora, why dont you ask for separate state in India. TAMIL NADU can be made a seperate state for tamils. If Pakistan, and Bangladesh was part of India was created as seperate nation, why cant the tamils in Tamil Nadu agitate a seperate nation for the tamils.

  77. ” Earning a Living though manufacture and distribution of weapons, liqour, poisons, intoxicants, is a crime against humanity and all living beings……”

    Lord Buddha

    550 B.C

  78. Selveraj, You asked “How come always Singhalese keep wining and we are losing all the time?” Tamils lived in Tamil Nadu, they came to Sri Lanka as slaves. Then they armed to carve out Sri Lanka. They were supported by Indians, but Tamils bite Hindi-Indians. Tamils are now helped by Europeans. Now Europeans are also fedup with Tamils. Tamils have become a burden every where. Tamils discriminate Tamils in Tamil Nadu. Low caste Tamils were massacred by Upper caste Tamls. Tamils are burden to India, Malasia, Singapore, Canada, England, USA, Norway, EU.

    Sinhalese always been reasonable to Tamils. Tamils harrassed Sinhalese for 30yrs. Tamils are given justice. Tamils lose, Sinhalese win.

  79. Well done Gen Fonseka! You have proven once again as new intelligent chief of Sri Lanka what you could deliver to this country. Thank to Presidnent Mahinda Rajapakse for leadership and Gotabaya for excellent strategy. Terrorist are not save in this univers be they hide in Canada, UK, Norway, Australia, France or anywhere. Please keep interrogaing KP for months. He will be good source of intelligent info of source of LTTE fund raising methodology, sleeping assets, arms smuggling methodology, human trafficcing methods, hard currency deposits and bank details. However, he will be an important souce as to how West try to sabotage srilanka during humanatarian operation by back door operation. Please publish all back stabbing strategies of west with named countries and individuals. I am sure there will be srilankan names too in that list. Please publish the names of those who betrayed mother lanka. We have a fundamental right to know this info. Finally, once all info is extracted and when he become no more use, please hand over him to India to procecute and put him behind the bars for life time. Do not waste srilanka resource on him to do that.

  80. The anti-Tamil hatred in response to this story although not surprising is amazing.

    The likes of KP and MR are made from the same cloth. So enjoy your “great” President, it won’t be long he’ll come for you too.

  81. SInhalese are no superior nation nor tamils an inferior nation.
    It just happen to be, all peace loving tamils were high jacked by a criminal organization called LTTE, which started its campaign by murdering a tamil (alfred dorrai appa).
    The conflict in Sri Lanka now is economic and political. There is NO such ethnic conflict or ethnic cleansing as claimed by the LTTE in Sri Lanka. (There were problems, but that is past, some more than half a century past).

    Why don’t we all get together and live peacefully? Sri Lanka belongs to tamils as well, as much as it belongs to any other community.
    I wish for a day where Tamils will stand up for their motherland (along side sinhalese and muslims), and give their life to defend it against terrorism and other threats, Sri Lanka is motherland for all of us.

  82. Praba thought he is a king and power gave him the arrogant lost the plot on the way. Who is to be blamed? It is topic for a different day.

    But why the majority of the Sinhalese so selfish and greedy. You have a paradise in south Why do you need the dry north? You have to go back in history to find the Sinhala psyche from King Asoka days.

  83. What happened to KP is a very good lesson for other LTTE terrorists live in other countries. It’s not safe anymore as they thought to live in other countries and try to proceed terrorism in Sri Lanka.

  84. thank you our great king for giving us a peaceful land for our children to live in and once again we all religions living in peace come to sl and see for your self… for people who calls them self heroes are lairs they just want to make problems in Srilanka there LTTE .so dear friends help the Tamils and teach them luv so that v will have a beautiful srilanka for ever.

  85. to comment 116
    “But why the majority of the Sinhalese so selfish and greedy. You have a paradise in south Why do you need the dry north? ”

    reply- why are the tamizh diaspora so selfish and greedy? why do you want a tamizh only land and why do you ethnically cleanse the north of muslims and sinhalese. your greed for land ruined our country for 30 years. at least now why don’t you leave the sri-lankan tamizhs alone. Sri-Lanka belongs to all sri-lankans, off course you diaspora guys are no longers sri-lankans are you? you are canadian/british/australian refugees aren’t you? so stop being jealous of the sri-lankan tamizhs, they have a homeland and it’s called SRI-LANKA.

    The diaspora greed and selfishness will never end but with time, you ppl will fade away, your children will become canadians/british/australian citizens. you will be forgotton, a lost generation without a land. Sri-lankans (tamizhs, sinhalese, muslims) will prosper. you diaspora will look upon sri-lanka with greed and jealousy…..but who cares in 20-30 years your generation will be dead. maybe before you die, you can think back- if only you had lived as Sri-Lankans at least you could have been buried in the land you were born in.

    In a way it is not your fault…Velu-P led you up the garden path….at least now give up your Greed, hatred and jealousy…..but even if you don’t in 20-30 years you will be gone. Sri-Lanka has time, the Sri-Lankan tamizhs will prosper and they will live as Sri-Lankans….you diapora terrorist sympathizers will die as Canadians/Australian/British refugees………so why don’t you ppl get a life, and let the sri-lankan tamizhs live in peace. Afterall you ppl don’t sacrifice anything living in luxury in the west, it’s the Sri-Lankan tamizhs who has to suffer no? Let them live as Sri-Lankans….there is no place for a tamizh only ethnically cleansed Northern province…..Sri-Lanka belongs to all Sri-Lankans….

    so dear diaspora stop being so greedy and selfish.

  86. Dear LTTErs and their sympathizers

    A local criminal was leading you guys once !
    Next, an international criminal !

    Let him be your final leader rather than getting the next candidate, a universal fella.

    Sri Lanka is for all of you including us.

    If the mind can not be re-set and changed by oneself, I am sure you guys will suffer not us.

    Thanks
    A Sri Lankan

  87. Bravo GoSL!

    The Sri Lankan government has proved that they can better the LTTE in their own game! Watch out you LTTE criminals – you are not safe anywhere…. You can run, but you will never hide. Big brother is watching you! YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR CRIMES!

    My only hope is that this will stop the LTTE goons from extorting money from peace loving Tamil all over the world.

  88. The pity is that the the LTTE has brought all tamils into disrepute.

    Now Canadians, Americans, Norwegians, Britsh, French etc nationals wonder, “is my tamil neighbour a terrorist” and are ready to reach for the phone to report any suspicious activity to the nearest security agency.

    Tamils are now at the cross-road.

    Can they decide the correct path and choose co-existence or go down the road to hell.

  89. Great news for peace lovers and also great news for Peace

    brokers like Nediyavan

    My question is

    Who is going to take over Money Box (Undiyal)

    Wake up diaspora tamils

  90. Its a Dog eat Dog situation out there among the Tamils.
    Who wanted the eelam ????????

    The curse on the Tamils of Sri Lanka was this “eelam”….

    Velipillai together with Balasingham, sent many a youth & children to their graves robbing them of their childhood and a future.
    Todate, many parents grieve because of this eelam.

    Those diaspora who funded the murderous deeds to gain eelam and thereby destroyed future generations of Tamils await RETRIBUTION……………

    what did the tamils seek ????
    Money and Power appart, it appears Tamils do not seek anything………….

    Eelam has only brought upon the Tamil people a spell of CURSE…… when will this curse end ?

    WHY BLAME THE MAJORITY & the GOSL.

    Thgis curse was brought upon Tamils by themselves..
    The iorny of it is that, in the process they destroyed their own Motherland ,Sri Lanka as well.

  91. there is no sinhala superiority and tamil inferiority.thats stupid we are all the same we are human beings for gods sake, just because SLG got lucky and other LTTErs betrayed KP doesnt mean anything of superiority or inferiority.

    But in the case of KP u reap wht u saw.
    and becareful other LTTE supporters because a betrayed man will not hesitate to betray others.

  92. to comment 108-tamilnadu will not ask for a seperate state because they are a contented lot. the answer to once and for all throwing seperatism into the sea is for a man of nehrus wisdom and foresight to become leader of srilanka. will MR be this man. he is a mixed bag sometimes talks a lot of sense, sometimes a lot of rubbish, maybe playing to the gallery. a bit of a jekyll and hyde personality. only time will tell. if he makes the correct decisions future generations will not kill each other. when i say future i mean the next five hundred years at least. we are presently going throgh only a blip in history. when one side wins or loses people should not gloat or become despondant. we want the problem solved for ever.

    to comment 109-srilanka has the world record for highest percapita consumption of alchohol. why did the government not ban it like in saudi.it is creating untold misery in the country, especially for the womenfolk. just having a poya day ban is only a cosmetic exercise.

    to comment 110-are you saying sinhalese were slave traders. welcome to the western club. tamils are not a burden to all the countries you mention. the hardworking and honest tamils have become an asset to the economies of those countries. only in srilanka some of them became a buden. flasback to 1958 with SWRD laugfing in his car as he sees tamil leaders getting bashed by goons on Galle Face when performin peaceful satyagraha.

  93. To everyone celebrating this event, you (1) don’t know that this is really KP, and (2) that KP really decides the fate of the Tamil fight back against the oppression. Remember that Tamil wrath goes back 60 years before there were Tigers and leaders, and then there was no diaspora with money to contribute, i.e. the Tamils were more helpless then. The only sustaining factor in Tamil resistance is the organised genocide and racism of the sinhalese against them, of which there is no shortage. A new generation of Tamils are growing up with hatred for sinhalese.

    I am an Indian Tamil, and I can tell you that we were not in support of Eelam Tamils then, but greater numbers of us are now. Unless the racist bigoted sinhalese government realises that they must give first citizen status to Tamils, time is against all sinhalese. I can count at least two million Indian Tamils that are contributing to the upkeep of Tamil resistance.

    Organised resistance got blurred with terror, and the post 9/11 and with a vengeful ghandi family, the LTTE was living on borrowed time. But the Tamil resistance will go on. Maybe the geopolitics will require India to be weakened or crushed before Tamil resistance will overwhelm sinhalese, and with Pakistan and China firmly set on that agenda, and overall north indian incompetence, it is only a matter of time.

    There will be a new leader, the raw material is all there, and the 14 million sinhalese will never live in peace until and unless all Tamils are treated equally and with honor. Since the sinhalese racists in their newly won euphoria cannot comprehend this, they are as doomed as the dinosaurs. And with them will go the bald budhist prophets that have warmongered against the Tamil Hindus for centuries.

    Do not underestimate the Tamil people. This is not a setback at all. Perhaps more shocks are required so that Indian Tamils can mobilise faster.

  94. It is widely believed that the arrest was made possible through inside information supplied by some members of the LTTE abroad who were opposed to KP donning the tiger leadership mantle after the demise of supremo Velupillai Prabhakaran.

    And this is the reason why the Tamil struggle has gotten nowhere and will get nowhere. We’re too busy fighting ourselves to be able to do much against the Sinhalese. Time and again, Tamil nationalists have wiped out or betrayed other Tamil nationalists in internal power struggles. Sure, the Sinhalese have their differences, but when it comes to opposing the LTTE they unite. There may have been uprisings by the JVP, but there’s never been a Sinhalese Karuna, nor has any Sinhalese general or politician helped the LTTE to attack his rivals.

    They’ve shown that as a people, they’re far more mature and united than we ever will be. That is why they have and will continue to have a country, whereas we will continue to live as a subject people, never destined to be free. We deserve no better.

  95. Weldone SL Intelligance !!

    We can do a film on this great episode some time down the line..

    Weldone ! and we are very proud of SL Armed Forces and Intelligence. Sri Lanka has done their part in eleminating world terrorism !! Other countries has something to learn from this little island nation on fighting terrorism..

  96. The LTTE is a terrorist organization. It shouldn’t survive in any form. Pottu Amman? Well, the intelligence chief was caught a while back. He’s been questioned and many have been arrested from his info. The same will happen with KP’s interrogation. The LTTE financial network will now crumble.
    Another great day for Sri Lanka!

  97. May all Singahese, Tamils , Mislims live happily in Sri Lanka.

    Let us do our best to help our motherland as Sri Lankan diaspora.

    All racists who supported LTTE will understand the bitter truth (for them) in time to come. They will not be able to mislead the world again. Please let the innocent tamils live in peace in Sri Lanka. Do not interfere them. Normal tamil man who lives in Sri Lanka in not ‘ racist’ at all. They are very nice people.

    I hope and Pray for all the Sri Lankans. It’ s the down of a new Sri Lanka without brutal LTTE terrorism.

  98. This not betrayal.This is because the fantastic job done by the SL.intelligence sleuths.and the good relationship that SL government had with Foreign Governments. Well done M.R.

  99. Please bring down those in the EU, Canada and Australia too. Bogus asylum seeking terror sponsors who sent their own youth to death and destruction should be also brought ot justice. Millions for the tigers was not raised through selling wadey in Jaffna, it was from the western world. So bring them to justice too!

  100. For all those who are talking about the legality of brining him down to SL… What this man did for decades is far worse! So he does not desrve the due legal process.

  101. Srilankan Tamils have always boasted as highly educated and intelligent. Then why on earth they have faith on smugglers and criminals to show the way. Can’t they find some decent peace loving people in the community?

    When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it–always.-Mahatma Ghandi

  102. When these people die, where do they go? Do they go there as tamils or as sinhalese? Is there Race after death?

    When your dead, what matters is not your race… what matters is what you have done for humanity and the beauty around us…

  103. It is all very well hunting down the LTTE leaders; but GOSL needs to show the Tamil people that they are liberators not oppressors. GOSL has not done this in an effective way. It will take much more than token gestures to reassure the Tamils that this is their victory too. Now more than ever, GOSL needs to demonstrate magnanimity and compassion in a big way.

  104. Jeyaraj, i think you need to use your words carefully. Sometimes I see your comments disturbing.

  105. Brilliant!!! People like this should not be allowed to roam free in the world. Now all that is left is to vanquish Tigers from the rest of the world. Sri Lanka being the first country to combat terrorism successfully is something we should be really proud of.

  106. #134 Aramudhan, your observations will not go well with some of my tamil brethren. You should not be so harsh on yourself, because all that you’ve written has been circumstantial. VP didn’t emerge overnight. His elimination of other tamil leaders was subtle and gradual. It crept up on the general tamil population and before you knew it only he was left to look up to. Did you guys have an alternative at that time? I do not think so.
    While Tamils in SL would have felt some discrimination (especially when Sinhala was made the official language) you only have to look as far as how the Muslims have assimilated themselves in all spheres of activity and are truly Sri Lankan in their identity. The common Sinhala man doesn’t have anything against the common Tamil man and vise versa. It is the power hungry and the egoistic who have created the current situation. Which turn all this will take?…God only know!

  107. I agree the Anthony’s comments 9. I am a tamil Diaspora as well but every move made by pro LTTE Diaspora will adversely affect the tamils in Sri Lanka. most of the deadly terrorists in Sri Lanka were gone except MR and GR. if these 2 brothers won’t co operate with India, then they also will have the same fate as VP had.good luck.

  108. I hope they don’t torture him.

    of course he was opting for a more peaceful solution, but let s not forget he was their main arms supplier. But then, look where Karuna is.

    It’s understandable that the government will want to make sure the lTTE has no ability ever to pick up arms again, after sacrificing so many lives to wipe out the LTTE.

    But then, is the arrest of KP, a guarantee of it? One can be sure it is a definite step forward.

    Along with this military victory the government needs an intellectual victory- to win the ltte over by forcing a strong idea in to them, that the struggle is of no use.

    Like, they have done by buying over the masses body, mind and spirit. Even to the extent where they have successfully normalized extra judicial killings at the moment.

    I hear from a friend that there are people in the hospitals with withdrawals because there are no drugs available, thanks to the underworld being bumped off.

    So is the government the best thign that happened to sri lanka, or is it chemotherapy that’s finding new benefits to continue itself after killing off the cancer?

    Who know. As for chemotherapy, it can be very bad after cancer is gone,that much i know.

  109. May all the LTTE suffer and die as people of Sri Lankan has sufferred for over 25 years.

    May the Stupid Tamils realise that they had no right to terrorise to gain thier so-called rights while squashing rights of others.

    And to all the Tamil Diaspora … you guys live in a Coockoo Land … come to the reality idiots. It’s not right you seek rather greed for land in the name of rights ….. get a life and please dont come back to our wonderful country ……

    If someone wants to know who are the worst terrorits compared to LTTE then its the “wooly headed” Tamil Diaspora who live in caves with heads up thier as**es

  110. Extremists, both Sinhala, Tamil and others, have no place to hide in today’s world. They will eventually be defeated and brought to justice by the will of the MAJORITY right thinking people from all sides; Tamil, Muslims and Sinhala.

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  112. We feel S L government takes excellent,strong, political decision .When we considor political history,this is a historical period in the world of S L politics.We bless for more strong decisions. Also, we accept SINHALEASE as well as TAMILS democratic rights

  113. Don’t worry.
    KP orchestrated the whole thing. He placed his body double and called the authorities. KP now hides in a secret location. Sri Lanka has the wrong guy and DBSJ writes poetry about it.

  114. I have visited several cities of Tamilnadu many times. While the wealth of some can be seen poverty of many is also clearly visible. Having so called better self determination that Northern part of Sri Lanka for many decades in TN have not brought prosperity to the masses. The ruling elite and the stooges have become unbelievably wealthy. But majority is poor. Compared to this many in the Northern Sri Lanka had much better living standard before the LTTE.

    In 1980-1982 period I had 10 good friends in Colombo. 7 were tamils, 1 was a muslim and 2 were Sinhalese. At that time it didnt occur to me the race of my friends. From my experince I didnt see any discrimination against them. We were together in studies, play and in fun. LTTE and the resultant 1983 changed many things. we were welcome at each others houses.

    Winning self determination will only create another set of rich people while majority will not benefit. Living together as one country and having strong equal opportunity legislature is the protection all communities can have. That is the protection the native americans and blacks have in states. Aboriginies and whites and asian migrants have in Australia, migrants of all races have in Canada, and Maories and Pakehas and migrants have in New Zealand.

    If the discriminations stories and claims are true legisltaure protecting the rights is what should be asked for and not seperatism that will not solve any issues of the common man.

    Fight for seperatism we will keep on fighting for next 500 years. Fight for Equal oppertunities and be a single country together we can make this a much better place for all people of all races.

  115. How many groups of Sri Lankan’s are there?
    ————————————-
    A. KP supporters from LTTE-A team – Sad today –> Lock up or switch to Castro
    B. KP supporters – Tamils – A team – Sad today –> switch to Castro tomorrow
    C. KP supporters – Sinhala-B /others-B Wickramabahu et al – Sad today—> confused tomorrow
    D. KP haters from Nediyavan’s LTTE-B team – Happy today–> in lock up tomorrow
    E. KP haters from Tamil – B division team Happy today –> Sad tomorrow
    F. KP haters from – Sinhala B / others B Happy today —> confused tomorrow
    G. Neutral / Confused people – Me and others Confused everyday

    I think the best status to achieve is Confusion (it’s better than sadness)

    I think everyone who has blood in their hand will pay the price in front of our eyes whether he is in this side or the other

    CC, How to switch to Castro when he ain’t no more?………..DBSJ

  116. what else to say to the brotheren diaspora tamils ?
    You didn’t eat, drink or give to your children, paid to these drug dealers and racketeers !
    Now you realise how foolish you were.
    Some one will enjoy all the money, leave aside the “eelam dream”
    At least now, tell them to go to HELL ! Don’t give a cent.

  117. Nothing less should happen to these racketeers !
    They have together destroyed a nice country (30 years backward) destroyed an entire generation of young sons and daughters, destroyed public money and so much of human lives !

    Well done authorities, where ever !

  118. to comment 140

    didn’t you read about the thud heard by the guy on the phone. KP wold have got bonked on the head without knowing where it came from. the key to that is why he went to the corridor. he could have always gone into his bedroom. he was lured there. by whom?

  119. #8. Roger Gunasekera | August 6th, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Another one bites the dust, another one another one.. One by one the masters of terror will see justice..
    —————————–

    How about the master of terrors who bombed and killed 20,000 innocent Tamils?. I would say you are honest if you want the criminal clan that rules LK also meet the justice. Otherwise, it will be no time the monster will turn back and attack anyone who say a word against him.

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  121. Great news, looks like the last nail has been placed in the coffin of LTTE. Let the innocent tamils have a chance of new beginning.

  122. Let not the fools cheer, for the struggle for equality and dignity is unending. One person is irrelevant, there are others that will come up. The Tamil people are talented and educated and will come up with a new generation of leaders. Tamil Nadu is increasingly involved. Whether in 10 years, or in 200, the sinhalese will pay for their crimes of genocide, that is without question. The longer it takes, the more violent the end will be the the sinhalese. No matter how fast they breed, they will remain a small minority. when the invasion occurs, they have no one to turn to. I am working for that day, so cheer on you sinhalese fools for yours is a fool’s paradise.

  123. DBS wrote:

    “Analysts said part of a brief struggle for Prabhakarans mantle after the war was to take control of its financial assets.”

    With all due respect DBS, I think (of course I have no proof, just gut feeling) the WHOLE thing is all about money. These parasitic leeches have been sucking the Tamil blood for a long long time. They shamelessly live off the blood, sweat and hard work of ordinary folks who toil day in and day out to keep food on the table.

    The war back homes was the singular excuse for these mongrels (pardon my French, just cannot hide my disgust and contempt for these shameless creatures). With that excuse removed they are now trying to connive innovative ways to keep the taps flowing.

    The most important issue facing the Tamil nation now is the resettlement of the IDPs. With an, not so surprisingly, unconcerned international community there isn’t much the Tamil diaspora can do at this stage. Even Tamil Nadu has given up on us, I don’t blame them they have very good reasons: of all the places VP in his supreme wisdom chose to kill India’s favorite son Rajiv Gandhi in Tamil Nadu. At this stage Tamils just have to hope that the goodness of our Sinhala brethren will triumph the no-so-noble intentions of the regime. But this is going to be long and painful process.

    The lesson for the diaspora is loud and clear. Never again allow these blood sucking paper tigers into the community. We should take a leaf from the ways of Indian Tamils and THEIR diaspora. The amount of respect and admiration they command in all places that matter is enviable. I am sure once freed from the poisonous tentacles of the LTTE the Sri Lanka Tamil diaspora could also do as well.

  124. CIA, FBI, CTU, MI 6, MOSAD, KGB, RAW…… WHAT AND WHAT NOT ! THERE ARE LOT OF THINGS YOU GUYS CAN LEARN FROM SRI LANKAN – INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, SPECIALLY FROM MILITARY INTELLIGENCE.

    WE MAY BE A SMALL COUNTRY BUT WE ARE THE STRONGEST AMONG SO CALLED SUPER POWERS DONT UNDER ESTIMATE US AS FAILIURES.

    LIONS ROAR – WHERE EVER AND WHEN EVER ! SO BE CAREFUL.

  125. comment 133 and 169- Elangovan

    weren’t you the guy who said that the sun god came to this planet in a spaceship….you seem to be suffering from sun god withdrawal.

    but please continue your entertaining posts. now that KP is out of the picture you seem ready to start the eelamish struggle in tamizh nadu. go on elangovan don’t let the north indians stop you become the new sun god. you too can get yourself a spaceship.

    P.S. remember don’t stop your entertaining posts….

  126. #30 Surya,

    what Tamil grievances, what ethnic problem? Their is no cure for “perceived “grievances & problems”!

    As Mr. S.L. Gunasekara once asked, ” what are the examples where a community or a section of our populace, by virtue of their ethnicity or race alone, are victims of a circumstance from which another or other ethnic groups are free?”

    What are these “grievances” that are so exclusive to the Tamils in Sri Lanka and not to the other ethnic groups?

    Ramanie Zoysa recently said: “If one thought that the majority Sinhalese and perhaps a large proportion of the Muslims and other Sri Lankans are by now thinking to themselves ‘can we for once listen to something other than ‘poor Tamils’ and their hard luck stories,’ one may well be right! The common man is fed up with Tamil terrorism, Tamil grievances, Tamil greed, Tamil lies, Tamil myths, Tamil homelands, Tamil aspirations, Tamil hard-luck stories and Tamil demands which had filled the airwaves in Sri Lanka for the past 60 years as if everyone else’s lives were a veritable bed of roses.”

    The days of an inferiority complex by the Singhalese are gone and they will not tolerate this Tamil s..t anymore!

    http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2009/07/24/a-majority-with-an-inferiority-complex/

  127. For those of you who are boasting about Sri Lankan military capabilities, please be assured all the credit goes to the Indian govt. Sri Lankan army is only capable of rape, torture and plundering innocent Tamil civilians. The leaders are the puppets of the Indian govt. Of course they and their clan benefit from plundering the civilians in the North and East!!

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  129. Comment #173 – citizens

    I have no idea what you’re about, and you would seem to reflect the narrow mindedness of a typical citizen (which you are). It seems some of you citizens can even write posts in English, never mind if they don’t make sense. This forum is for serious mature expression, so please go to other chat fora for your kind of dialogue, you may not be appropriate here.

  130. I humbly request President Mahinda to show leniency to KP.- hopefully he wll not be sentenced to death or incarcerated for life.

  131. Comments #30 – Surya and #174 – B.Atapatu

    Surya, you have said :

    “Few amoung Tamil diaspora still believe in ruthless and cruel methods of the LTTE to rule the Tamils should shame themselves. Most right thinking Tamil Diaspora should join hands with their brethen in Sri Lanka to make their live better. This is high time to use their resources to invest in Sri Lanka and create economic and social progress. We all hope that with help of international community especially India to bring a justifiable solution to ethnic problem.”

    B.Atapatu has said :
    “what Tamil grievances, what ethnic problem? Their is no cure for “perceived grievances & problems”

    and
    “they will not tolerate this Tamil s..t anymore!”

    Perhaps, Surya, it is clear to you why what you’re saying is impractical. For 60 years Tamils have found it possible only to be heard by disobedience and then violence.

    There are people like B.Atapatu that will deny genocide, deny systematic discrimination, deny the organised pogroms, and deny the concentration camps that Tamils have and are facing and that the sinhalese have not, and pretend that Tamils have no issues. He and people like him are the primary reason, why Tamils can never work with the sinhalese and achieve anything of value. Of course, apostates like Douglas, Muralitharan, Karuna and others have achieved personal comfort, and have done nothing for Tamil equality.

  132. For me this is not NEW news, all r expected in this Eelam drama (western vs asian – indian ocean cold war). These games started from 1985 Anadrayapura masscare, then Colombo Jaffna train ambush, Chavakacheri police station……etc…like that now this game/ deal started again from when KP was arrested in Bangkok airport on Sept 2007 ( http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=92069 ) from that day Srilankan Airforce one by one sunk all LTTE ships (what a game!), then we all know what happened to the LTTE leadership.

    Now who ever started this game have to end it, in this KP’s arrest also a page in this book (game). What ever he helped to his deal makers, now this like a favour bring him to light…………..we’ll wait & see.

    Like this Pottu also is in some deals from Paramu Tamilselvan’s assisanation period.

    One day all will come to the light.

    But poor Tamils & Sinhalese wasting all in this war (external forces drama’s)

    Ps: All r my personell view.

  133. SriKanderGt @ 127
    You asked a question, what would a Canadian, etc would ask?

    Here is one;

    Let’s see- financial bagman of terrorism, arms smuggler, drug dealer, murderer, and dictator of a discredited political movement that is converting to a criminal gang. What other virtue and noble qualities does this leader have to inspire his followers.

    Here is another;

    Hopefully soon the state of SriLanka asks for extradition of Paul Martin and all other Liberals who have blood on their hands for supporting the Tamil Tiger Butchers.

  134. Wow guys !

    175 responces in 24 hours. I didnt know KP was so important. I personally dont think that he was after a peaceful solution. The guy is an arms trader and probably would have milked the disapora for more money.

    For all those who look at this with sadness –
    I sympathise with you if you feel that the whole world is coming to an end. But being a Sinhalese I want to tell you dont despair. Like somene mentioned above there is no room for a ‘homeland’ as your politicins have been asking. Your homeland is the whole of Sri Lanka. why settle for less when you can have the whole lot.

    If Obama could be President wht not a tamil? The only reason Obama won was because although there is race differences in America the Blacks consider themselves to be American too !!

    So be Sri Lankan, have your identity too. and enjoy this beautiful land. it s for you and your childre as well as for mine.

  135. As i mentioned earlier in one of DBS’s articles titled “LTTE Cabal opposes KP as leader of re-structured Tigers” (comment no 40) the New CDS & his SIS unit has got the job done .Even sooner than i expected.But it was on the cards .Well done SIS.

    It was essential that KP was taken alive just as important Prabakaran wasn’t.

    Its important to finish off the remaining sepratist terrorists and associated groups & people whether in SL or abroad before expected political changes in the south 2014/2015.

    The expected economoc boom post 2010-2011 will translate to general uplift of living standards around the nation specialy the north only if its coupled with national unity .Eliminating “KP”s & other sepretists vellalas are essential for that purpose.

    Aunty will be difficult .Considering her nationality ,low profile & the relationship between SL and the host country.

    Hope CDS is upto the task.

  136. I guess now there is no chance of LTTE becoming a non violent group. Nediyavan group has achieved what they want. It is obvious without their help he could not have been caught.

    This is just the begining.
    How many more are going to be caught and/or killed by the internal feud?

    JUST A WARNING.

    YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

    THIS IS APPLICABLE TO EVERYONE. INCLUDING THE PRESENT SL GOVERNMENT.

    TIME WILL IF YOU DON’T AGREE WITH IT. SO WAIT AND SEE FOR THINGS TO UNFOLD.

    THE LORD HAS TO HEAR THE CRY OF THE INOCENT & BROKEN HEARTED.

    DO THEY ( LTTE & SL GOV ) HAVE ANY COMPASSION?

  137. Arun Vincent:
    You talk about international law of a man with 2 dozen passports, responsible for smuggling drugs around the globe, responsible for deaths of thosands of innocent tamils, muslims, sinhalese.
    Grow up, have some sense, this man is a mobster, same as VP. The world is better without him, there’re few more like Rudrakumaran who deserves the same fate, for promoting terrorism, dare him to visit Sri Lanka

  138. Comment #170 – Rajiv

    Rajiv, I have read your other posts and find you to be very balanced inspite of the personal tragedies you’ve mentioned you and your family had to endure.

    Your view in this post, however true, still does not mention what the diaspora can contemplate next. As for the Indian Tamils, and I am one, it is not really as you mention. Tamils have contributed massively to the growth of india, and you find Tamils in all intellectual professions, but they are still marginalised due to their perceived inferiority and language. India is dominated by the hindi and punjabi speakers. But there are no aerial bombings, concentration camps, pogroms, and cruelty specifically meted out to Tamils in India, at least not as yet.

    In any event, resolution of the Tamil tragedy in Eelam can only be resolved by force.

  139. #180. Elangovan
    Do not generalize all the Singhalese in one basket as vice versa Tamils in Sri Lanka. The LTTE done more harm to Tamil cause than any GOSL or Singhalese parti done. I am also a Tamil and nvner supported the LTTE. LTTE should have transformed itself already 20 years ago but they never bother to do it. Today we are even weaker that before ethnic war begins. ‘B.Atapattu’ probable one extreme Sighalese as many Tamils especially diaspora community.
    Time has changed even in Sri lanka. Most Singhalese and Tamils in want a peaceful and prosperous Sri lanka. It wil take time after 30 years of war. and what Tamil diaspora should do is to pool their resources to develope North and East instead of dreaming imaginary Tamil Eelam.

  140. Yet another opportunity to GoSL to show the world their democratic credentials now lying critically wounded, if not non-existent. We will once again be placed well and in good light in the eyes of the world If KP is accorded all rights and privileges due to political prisoners – per the various global Conventions we are signatories to. We are, after all, vocal in claiming to be a responsible and democratic State in the community of nations. By all means, subject him to the rigours of legitimate interrogation but do ensure the sick man gets his regular medication and doctors, visit of his family, Lawyers and friends. One hopes the stereotype of the State Communique he was shot dead trying to throw a grenade/escape/attack that has in the past few weeks become boringly routine when gangsters out of favour with those in the government are ousted. Or the repeat of the official Communique that brought an end to Rohana Wijeweeras life. That includes that dull refrain he committed suicide/jumped out of the wind (of a multi-storeyed building) The more senior of us here will remember the fate of Dodampe Mudalali who fell foul of the regime and died while in Police custody.

    This is not a frantic plea on behalf of a suspected law-breaker (I dont know the guy from Adam) but a mere reminder of our obligations as a civilized society in the background of an entire series of HR abuses against many citizens – in gross violation of the Constitution.

    ISS

  141. There are no specific grievences in SL just being Tamil. Problems, grievences are common to all Sri Lankans. What happend to JVP happened to LTTE. If you live in South you should know some Sinhalese. If you live in North you should know some Tamil. Poverty is every where. If Tamils think and believe they are natives of Sri Lanka, like some Sinhalese believe they are natives of Sri Lanka, may be these Tamils are actualy Sinhalese speaking Tamil language.(ie same people speaking two different languages) Forget differences. Don’t think Sinhalese are better off than Tamils. That is NOT TRUE.We are all Sri Lankans. Treat each other equally. Don’t chase out Sinhalese from the North if Tamils in the South want to live in peace. Sri Lanka is one country one people called Sri Lankans. Sinhalese and others call themself Sri Lankans, it is time Tamils call them selves Sri Lankans. Ethnic integration, equal oppertunity, economic development will bring peace back to Sri Lanka ,nothing else will. Tamils it is time to burry LTTE and Ealam for good. Your Ealam is SRI LANKA.

  142. Cheer up Vaiko and Nediyavan

    The good news is

    Most probably KP also will be in the Heroes list for the remembrance of Maveerar Naal (Heroes Day) on 27th November.

  143. It looks like many Tamils were burning their mid night oil writing comments around the clock. Having read all the comments and the usual thriller of DBS, I could see a sigh of relief among many. Who ever I meet and talk criticize the LTTE and NOW I find it difficult even to find one LTTE supporter other than the members of the transnational LTTE govt.

    As stated somewhere above, they are risking their life as they also could be abducted by Sri Lankan white air van [as opposed to bus] and taken all the way to Boosa. No one will raise their finger against those abductions.

    Is it erosion of rule of law at the international level OR is it current legal way of fighting against terrorism. Both ways seem to be helping the law abiding Tamils who love peace and nothing but peace.

  144. I am happy for Tamil and Tamileelam, especially for LTTE.
    Leadership should be earned not given.
    KP is neither a political nor a military leader.

  145. Do we need more proof?

    Nediyavan is a true tamil traitor who do his best for his SL state terrorist masters to demoralize the Tamils and to abendon their struggle for equal rights and self determination in SL.

  146. To comment 124 – by Srilankan

    ” Srilanka is for all of you including us”

    Well come sir/ madam! To be short, it took you all these 61 years to understand this simple fact and we Tamils will always salute to the heroes, who made you Sinhalees to understand this fact. ( not the journalists or the so-called intellectuals made this magic) . —– afool.

  147. 39 – Arun Vincent:

    “Year 2009 is full of joy for peace loving Tamils around the world. What a great news this morning. ”

    Indeed. Those imprisoned in those camps must be jumping in joy around the 1,400 dead bodies produced every week because KP (who they could hardly care about given their sorry predicament) was captured.

    “However something is missing here. KP is NOT a citizen of Sri Lanka now. He is a Thai.”

    Where did you get the information that KP was a Thai citizen? Nowhere has it been claimed as such.

    “If he can be taken like this to an island called Sri Lanka and what his country [Thai or whatever it is] is doing now to protect its own citizen. The lawyer of Tamil Eelam shadow committee Viswanathan Rudrakumaran made big noise last weekend in France. What is he doing in KP’s matter? Does he not know that this is serious violation of international extradition law. ”

    You have no idea about international law do you? Why do you talk about things that you have scant knowledge about? KP is wanted by Interpol. End of story. Go read up on how extradition laws work with those wanted by Interpol.

    “Thai govt could have done this many years ago. Why now? Like VP, KP also had high hopes about his connections and money. Finally it is a crash landing to the LTTE.”

    He was not caught in Thailand. He was caught in Malaysia.

    “Sri Lanka is really smart. I am thinking of moving there.”

    That’s just what Sri-Lanka needs right now. More people who talk about things they have no idea about.

  148. dbs

    elangovan seems to have taken over from gopalapillai. after making use of your blog to the maximum, when he is ready to go off, he will start abusing you. gopalapillai also started off well , increasingly became chauvinistic, then rabidly racist and then signed off abusing you. then we that that other chap ariya or kariya, the list goes on and on.

  149. Latest news reveals that KP was kidnapped by SL intelligence. Tamils must remember we have the same right to kidnap the Sri Lankan war criminals and bring them to justice; we shouldn’t allow these Sinhala war criminals sleep one night peacefully wherever they go.

    On the other hand, I am somewhat relieved that Tamils now have real chance to form new visionary leadership to carry out the struggle to next phase to win freedom from both Indian & Lankan tyranny. We should work to bankrupt Sri Lankan State any means by obeying the laws & rules of the countries we live in; We should lend our hand to Kashmiri & Tibetan democratic forces in peaceful mean for them to win freedom from Indian & Chinese tyranny. We stop looking India favorably and handle them caustically; India will be evil empire Under IBMs (India’s Brahmin Mafia). When the empire collapses Eelam Tamils benefit by that;

  150. With the arrest of KP, SL finally became a secular nation which respect rights of all the citizens. It laso opened the opportuntiy to Join G8 very soon. We srilankans started looking for KP since 1948, finally we made it and to make SL a better place for our children.
    It also give our beloved son of Sri lanka Dr Mervy Silva an oppotunity to become a great human rights activist with the help of our great leaders.

  151. It might be possible to huntdown the KP without the inside information. After may 18th his presence and activities were increased in those countries. Most wanted person, KP had the possible avenues to trace by the enemy by his activities. Anyhow other LTTE remnents in safe heaven may start to struggle again to share the assets which were blindly given by the diaspora to form the killing field in Sri Lanka. One thing is clear that no more person in LTTE to give the charismatic leadership to capture the mind and soul of blind followers in diaspora and in Sri Lanka.

    I would like to point out one thing is here that the leaders (Premadasa, Athulath, Gamini) of UNP were killed by the LTTE gave a space to find a alternative leadership from SLAP and UPFA who played immense role to bring this situation. this not mean that they are good leaders.

    In future Tamils may have a chance to find good leaders from cultured mind.

  152. The world is run by neo mafia groups, including USA, Sri Lanka is in anyways not different from mafia style outfits. Tamils must keep fighting against this beast forever.

  153. VP and I have formed a Pokers Club up here. SP is also in our club and learning fast. Will KP join us soon? How about any other Ps – JP, DP, OP…?

    I hear the “investigation” conducted by the SL Govt is nothing but an attempt to get all the money that KP had, and after that, he will be made into Kotthu Rotti. Already Pottu has been turned into Pittu and is being served with Pol Sambol.

    The common refrain among the heavenistas about the Tamils is the following:

    – they are a dravidian bunch with no brains.
    – the more Aryan mix they have in them, the more likely they will try to lead, but will eventually loot the more dravidian of their lot
    – they can never be united
    – they have a bloated ego, which makes them yearn to be seen in the same light as the Jews
    – the same ego also wants to claim that they will rule the world one day.
    – recent Canadian radio CMR broadcast a song that went like this “PaaraalappiranthavanE..” describing VP as someone who was born to rule the world. He couldn’t even rule Killinochi.
    – they love to boast about their heritage but don’t have much to talk about their most current achievements.

  154. to comment 174-bandara

    lots of sinhalese keep on asking what are the grieviences. many tamils will say they are treated like seconclass citizens. both sides may be correct and probably the answer is inbetween somewhere. i have thoght about this for some time and i feel that the root cause of the problem maybe somewhere else. i maybe wrong and stand to be corrected, because it is only a guess. iam a bit of a history buff and history of countries fascinate me and in my spare time i do read a lot. srilanka indeed has had a colourful history. we have had essentially 2 nations for many centuries. originally a sinhala nation and then a sinhala and tamil nation. sinhalese believe that a part of their nation was taken by the tamils. tamils believe that they have been a nation long enough to call it their own. regardless of the pros and cons of both arguments the crux of the matter is that the tamils see after independence the sinhalese having their own country, recognised in the UN, having own flag, own cricket team etc etc, while they who had the same thing earlier, dont have these now. cant you see there is a vacuum for the green eyed monster to creep in. to add salt to the wound sinhala leaders have been behaving like thugs letting off the goons, and for political reasons using the race card always to win elections. this feeling that we had a nation just like the sinhalese, but now we dont is going to persist in the future. the only way i think to solve this problem once and for all is for the sinhalese to give the maximum devolution to traditional homeland of tamils, and make it clear that this is not a sinhala country or a tamil or muslim country, but a srilankan country. the tamils will eventually realise the immense benefits of being one country instead of two small ones, and you can bid goodbye to this problem forever.

    ps. there are some shrewd characters who will say if we give devolution, then that will lead to seperation. these are people who believe in the original one nation concept, when the sinhalese were the first to settle down here, and believe that the country rightfully belongs to the sinhalese. but how far are we to go back. rightfully we should all be in africa. not to give devolution is just an excuse. if an apple is given to the tamils they will howl. if a banana skin is given to the tamils they will still howl. if a vial of poison is given to the tamils they will howl, and then curse that they should have let that one go. thei argument is silly, because devolution will not lead nto seperation, after all what are the armed forces there for. to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignity of the country.

  155. India 1,Sri Lanka 0 !
    Arrest of reformrd- moderate KP who was preaching non-violent politics among Tamils, has clearly once again given an opportunity to anti-KP LTTE factors to take up arms struggle again.
    All New Delhi wants is permanant trouble in it’s backyard.Prosperous,peaceful Sri Lanka is what India jeolous of.
    I hope Sri Lankan govenment and anti-KP LTTE factors realise this and work together for a permanant solution with enhanced devolution.
    Any more fighting? It should India V China ;Not Sri Lanka V Sri Lanka!
    DBS feel free to write on INDIA’S PART in Sri Lanka’s tears!

  156. #156
    We Srilankans create political history and then destroy it.
    No doubt that we are proud of it. Why do we have to change something that we are good at it. Truly, I do not know the meaning of democratic rights, I did look everywhere , just could not find it. Then I asked my dad and he is not sure of it either but he told me that his father mentioned it long time ago- ” double think”.
    Then I asked my sinhala and Tamil realtives and they do not want to utter a word- scared of “thought crime”

  157. 181 – Thushara

    How can you be so dump my dear Mrs/Miss Thushara? There are around 20 million rest of Eelam Tamils plus another 70 million Tamil-Nadu Tamils (minus a few thousands calling them-selves intellectuals), are LTTE . Unless, you can or you have the capacity to eliminate all of us, you will never have your victory. Why did you think, the GOSL is still fear-full of the LTTE and went after KP and still seeking to arrest the remaining even after they declared to become democrats. Do, think the Eelam Tamils who still live in Eelam will ever accept the traitors like Duglas or Karuna or any so-called intellectuals as their leaders, when there is a name of LTTE is still existence? Even India realizes the respect the name LTTE carries among the Tamils and others around the WORLD? That is the reason, why India is helping and protecting the Srilankan program. Some-one here praising the Srilankan intelligence agencies. STUPID him. I laugh at him for his knowledge. Thirty-five years, LTTE Fucked them up. It is not their brain working now, even a child knows that. —— A – FOOL.

  158. # 180 Elangovan

    Have’nt you guys got tired of using the word “genocide” and its various modifications like “structural genocide”, “emotional genocide” etc etc.

    Add to this “pogroms”, “concentration camps” , WMD etc.

    The long suffering “whites” in your adopted countries have realized long ago the Tamil diaspora penchant for
    major exaggeration

    They have realized that these are all part of Tamil mythology including the mythical “eezham”

  159. KP was underground and was keeping a low profile life till the death of LTTE supremo.

    KP earned good money out of weapon transactions, enough even for a lavish human being.

    The death of Prabhakaran again attracted him to the vast reservoir hidden. He became active and did his best to get the key of that reservoir.

    But that cost him his life now.

    He was intelligent and shrewd . But not pragmatic as it proved.

    The revival of LTTE was unnecessary at this stage even some one has genuine interest for the people in IDP camps.

    KP could have ignored the call of greed . May be he repents at this moment.

  160. Srilanka has Just Exported CROSS BORDER TERRORISM.

    Would it be justified to think a pre-emptive move by some one in their defence as a sequela in the future?

    Srilanka said they are hunting to kill other Tiger leaders.

    Killing in a Foreign land ? perhaps they need to know the law of their own land.

    IT might come down to a Dirty war similar to the one after MUNICH.

  161. If some set back happens to the fantasy of some Tamil people , they immediately point their finger to India. This is more form Indian Tamils. This is mostly due to their awareness of the actual issue through the propaganda they read in their own medium.

    These people identify themselves as Tamils and live in a nut shell isolating themselves from the vast majority.

    They try to believe if they have a separate country to rule themselves they will have all solutions for the common misery of exploited mankind.

    If this is true, Tamil Nadu in India with a population of 66 million and 40 MPs in parliament should have eliminated poverty, caste ism, child abuse, mortality rates etc in their own state with the power they enjoyed all these years.

    The story is otherwise.

    The self determination of Tamils is established in streets for auto drivers to charge as they wish. It is there in vegetable markets. In Govt departments to fix the bribe. The list of misery due to self determination is end less.

    The above issues are prevailing everywhere in developing countries in varying quantities, but not with the self determination stamp affixed.

    Now some people point their fingers to India for the arrest of KP. Indian leaders has enough domestic issues in their plate .

    If the arrest of KP happened through international friends as mentioned in defence.lk website, it could be the China which has good influence over Malasia and Thailand.

    India never extends its muscle power outside its boundary. India is a feminine country and it along behaved like that.

    Wherever India interfered, it had its own security issues. If ever it happened, that also clumsily.

    Everyone knows that.

  162. All these problems are because of our leaders. Both Sinhalese and Tamils select criminals, murderers, smugglers as their leaders.

  163. Eelam Tamils should focus on real important issues, just not worry about the past failures. Our visionaries need to speak out, unite the Diaspora, set clear agenda & goal and work towards that. We should stop trusting India and stop believing somebody is going to get Freedom from Sinhala Buddhist Tyranny. We need to transform our struggle with global focus, build coallision with progressive forces, oppressed people and influential global community. India under IBMs (India’s Brahmin Mafia) will never support our aspirations, we should stop playing nice to India and start playing hardball using our strengths. As first step, we use our organizational skills to help Kashmiri democratic forces and their supporters in the West to organize rallies & protests in support of Kashmiri independence. We should do the same for Tibetans. We failed to build collision in the past, and we were friendless when our faced genocide, we believed India will rescue us, but India committed treachery to Eelam Tamils. Part, we in this pathetic state is that LTTE’s visionless, clueless leadership and its tyrant attitude towards Tamil democrats and intellectuals who criticized them. The LTTE didn’t have intelligence, ability to see big picture and ability to transforms into a potent political force. We mortgaged (willingly or unwillingly) our people’s destiny with one megalomaniac who destroyed the Tamils dreams. That is the primary reason, I state that we shouldn’t allow the LTTE remnants to hijack the Tamils’ leadership.

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  165. VP control LTTE not doing mass murder of sinhala civilians even Sinhala Army did that often to Tamil civilians.

    KP silance the guns and try to transform new LTTE even
    GOSL still engaging in “Fighting” with LTTE.

    So this is not good for both side.

    Revenges may continue the blod shed to the small Islands long history. No one seems to listen Buddas
    real message. Result ?…….

  166. Comment #153 – Srilankan

    This is the essence of the sinhalese racism that readers need to see. Srilankan would like to cleanse the island of Tamils, and goes to the extent of calling all Tamils ‘stupid’. I cannot understand what gives the sinhalese such racist hatred for Tamils, except that this is the reason for the pogroms, genocide and expulsions.

    If anyone is in any doubt that there is racist hatred against Tamils by sinhalese, one only needs to hear from bigot racists like Srilankan, of whose filthy ilk the sinhalese community, armed forces, politicans and budhhist monks are full of. QED.

    In fact, apart from the LTTE which morphed into a terror organisation, there is no hatred on the part of Tamils for the sinhalese, only fear and dread of what the sinhalese have done to the Tamils consistently over the past 60 years.

    Why do the sinhalese behave in this murderous manner against the Tamils ? The answer is that this is what they learn with their mothers’ milk, that their race has to anhilate the Tamils. Nothing can change that, the only solution is for Eelam, or for the sinhalese to be neutered.

  167. Tamils need to be democratize in Sri Lanka .
    This can be done wonderfully but not with KP or by the name of LTTE. The batter way of democracy & new breath in to breath with new paradigm must be with new political name with new icon with new titles.

    The young Tamils will most productive tools for this concept.

  168. Great News!! But at the same time the government must ensure that all those millions if not billions that were in KP’s possession will be used to resettle IDP’s rather than allowing their own ministers to take control.

  169. hi dbs,
    i thought you’re a LTTE sympathizer. last time, I noticed when you wrote VP after his demise as Thiruvengadam Ve……but VP was only called as Ve…Pi… prior to his demise. THANKS FOR YOUR GENUINE JOURNALISM.

  170. 172. vidivu | August 7th, 2009 at 7:24 am
    CIA, FBI, CTU, MI 6, MOSAD, KGB, RAW…… WHAT AND WHAT NOT ! THERE ARE LOT OF THINGS YOU GUYS CAN LEARN FROM SRI LANKAN – INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, SPECIALLY FROM MILITARY INTELLIGENCE.

    WE MAY BE A SMALL COUNTRY BUT WE ARE THE STRONGEST AMONG SO CALLED SUPER POWERS DONT UNDER ESTIMATE US AS FAILIURES.

    LIONS ROAR – WHERE EVER AND WHEN EVER ! SO BE CAREFUL.

    hei buddy, you (means sri lanka) is another pakistan in south east asia but puppet of china. you see what’s happening in pakistan is every body know. you(sri lanka) can continue to dance according to the devil’s tune. For how long?

    Tamil moderates or any extremistes did not do anything fruitful to Ceylon Tamils so far. one thing is sure that extremistes made lots of contribution to poor sinhala army look like a virtual super power.

    Thanks to dbs to bring the secrets of his so called race or caste whatever it is.

  171. DBS,

    You can foresee things. Come on who is next after VP, KP?

    Don’t forget your dear friend VR he is waiting in the line.

    Why, are you also waiting in line too?…………DBSJ

  172. Please, Please, Please! We must wake up and shun any element of LTTE atleast starting from now. Because of people like Nediyavan and traitors our plight has gone on for too long and many innocent Tamils are paying the price daily.

    This has to stop now!

  173. #224 Elangovan

    “No hatred of tamils towards Sinhalese” ha ha

    One has only to remember Mrs Amirthalingam’s statement of skinning the Sinhalese to make drum skins and of course the massacres and bombings carried out by the diaspora proxy Velupillai Prabhakaran

    The suffering of the tamils in Wanni are due to the LTTE and since the LTTE was directed and financed by the diaspora all the blame lies squarely with the tamil diaspora.

  174. To: 201. Rajah | August 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Indeed year 2009 is full of joy for peace loving Tamils around the world. Those imprisoned in those camps are indeed jumping in joy because they see that Operation anti-LTTE is coming to an end with the arrerst of KP. More than anyone they want to see the end of LTTE becos they are the one who suffered at the hands of the LTTE until the last day.

    Where do you Rajah get these 1,400 dead bodies stories? I thought as of May 18, you have stopped spreading false stories like these. In fact, some of the young girls in the camps prefer to stay inside as they fear men like you outside the camp.

    Where did you get the information that KP is NOT a Thai citizen? Why do not spill what you know if you really know anything other than holding pantham to LTTE.

    One thing you are correct that I have no idea about international law. But if KP is wanted by Interpol does that mean that any country can just walk into another country and take that person to an unknown destination. Even as a layperson something looks wrong here to me. But you claim to know international law and therefore why do not you write what you know on international law. Where did you read that extradition laws are not applicable to those wanted by Interpol. Pls direct me there I like to learn. [i know you are kidding as you are master of that art]

    However, if you have learnt law when it was supposed to be, instead of chasing Carribeans, you do not need to hide like this now. Is’nit it?

    He was not caught in Thailand. He was caught in Malaysia. So what? Are you telling that Thai citizens have no rights in Malaysia.

    May be Sri-Lanka has people who talk about things they have no idea about. But VP thought you all have great ideas to rescue him but you all got together and let the Humpty Dumpty to have a great fall.

  175. SL is a small country. There is no land to divide. All the Tamils if they wish, go back to Tamil Nadu where your ancestors came from or join the Sinhalese and work together to bring the country to be peaceful and prosperous.

  176. dbsj

    I thought a new LTTE under KP wll fight against the racist Rajapaksa govt but now there is no chance. I am really, really sad. Under Mahinda neither Sinhala nor Tamil people have any future.

  177. I dont think Lanka caught KP. Indian RAW did it and gave credit to us. Thats why Keheliya is not telling much about how KP was caught

  178. Just heard reliable information – “col” karuna played big role in setting up KP for arrest.please check 7confirm

  179. DBSJ you must have been wondering why only few comments
    for your writes in the last couple of weeks.
    Your readers haven’t abandoned you, but there was nothing
    exiting happenning. Now you see a flood of comments.
    So DBSJ keep up the good work and take care.

    God bless you.

  180. comment no-220. Cavin Selvam

    out of joke, I think you’ll (the tamil diaspora ) should support tamilnadu to be a separate state from india !
    thats a wise thing to do and it will be as close as to elarm.
    from there you can start your drem of bringng up a tamill nation to the world. I guess that will be the closest you can get to a tamil separate country !

  181. keri demala.

    I HATE you and WISh you die now.

    I hate ALL TAMILS IN THE WORLD. They are the worst SCUM of the earth.-worst that Eretrians.

  182. Comment #220 – R.Silva

    Correct, but that is only the start. Any fool can realise that with an ability to project power for the sake of Tamils, the creation of Eelam is the next step. The sl armed forces are really a second class ragtag band that have come into sophisticated armaments. It won’t be difficult for a professional army to brush them aside, maybe some of their generals will even serve as batmen for the new order. In reality, all the sinhalese have is naked racism and exclusionist ambition, but can never back that up with real power. So, you’re right more than you’ll ever have the sense to realise.

  183. Elam is a dream of the Pirabaharan. And his followers also partners of that dream… as great Sinhala nation, we fight until dieing last LTTE minded person. Our leader Mahinda was done his job as a real Sinhala King. And I personally think we have to do this war until kill the last anti Sinhalese Tamil terrorist in the world…..!

  184. # 220 Elangovan

    You are of course free to dream over a good beer while sitting in your leather armchair somewhere in your adopted country.

    Unfortunately the tamils of the Wanni did not have that luxury for 30 years. They can just start hoping for a better life now with the LTTE gone.

    It appears that you are thinking of pushing the Wanni tamils back into the dark ages again with your dream of the mythical never- to- be achieved eezham – a tamil monoethnic exclusively racist Nazi type hell for the poor tamils back in Sri Lanka, run by a murderous megalomaniacal dictator.

    Its amazing how hate can put blinkers on- on the suffering of your own kind

  185. #189-Elangovan

    Thank you for your comments my friend. As for my being balanced, may I say, in all humility, ‘what a world of difference a little bit of open mindedness makes’? What my family had to endure is, unfortunately, rather typical for many, if not most, in Sri Lanka. To add insult to injury, as middle-class Tamils, we also had to suffer the humiliation that LTTE cadres heaped on us as they (usually kids from under-privileged families) tried to exercise their new found power emanating from the barrel of an AK47. In short, if SLA robbed our property, LTTE destroyed our dignity.

    As an Indian it certainly is your democratic birthright to take stock of the state of your country and express your views. However, I refuse to deride in any way that great nation that gave me and my family (immediate and extended) refuge at a very critical time. From actor Vijayakanth, whose generous donations allowed three of my cousins to have good education all the way from middle school to university, to the ghetto kids of Lingarajapuram (Bangalore), who relaxed the rules of gully cricket to accommodate my poor batting skills, I am eternally grateful to every Indian who made a positive impact in my life.

    Today on account of my job I travel to India once a year. Often I read about Tamils (or Tamilians, as Indians say) in positions of power and influence there and occasionally I get to meet some of them (in WIPRO, TCS, Infosys, etc.). Sorry, I have not seen the marginalisation you refer to.

    As far as the Sri Lankan conflict is concerned, a separate country, Elam, is one of the solutions if it could be achieved without bloodshed (a la Czech-Slovakia); full integration with dignity and equal rights is another (a la Canada-Quebec). But as events and developments of the last three decades have proven the Sri Lankan society and polity have not reached the level of maturity and sophistication essential to even envisage rationally optimal solutions. As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, we are detrimentally prejudiced by the burden of history (real and fabricated). In 1987 India showed a way forward via the Indo-Lankan accord, VP chose to blow it.

    You ask what the diaspora can contemplate next. Well, overwhelmed by global currents beyond their reach or control there isn’t much they can do at this juncture. Regardless of what the LTTE apologists choose to believe we have absolutely no influence whatsoever in the international arena. As DBS pointed out in one of his articles, VP grossly miscalculated the diasporic clout. One of my Palestinian colleague remarked, after watching the marathon Tamil demonstrations in Toronto, ‘been there, done that, trust me nothing will ever come of it’. You have to interpret his comments in light of the fact that the PLO is a legitimate body with a permanent representative at the UN and hotlines to powers that be. If they couldn’t do anything about the plight of their people back home, we would be lucky even to have a passer-by read our placards. Perspective and context ‘we just don’t seem to get that.

    It may be hard to digest for many, but at this stage the inherent goodness of our Sinhala brethren is our only hope.

    Regards.

  186. Comment #202 – Shankar

    I do not know Gopalapillai, and my intentions are nothing more than to offer a perspective that is charitable to the long suffering Tamil people of Eelam.

    Shankar, I see too much noise on these posts from ill informed people still wanting to have a discussion. If everyone were to read their history, moderate opinions would prevail.

    That is what I hope to contribute. I have no need to be chauvinistic or abusive. Thanks.

  187. #204 and .#220. Cavin Selvam
    Please do not day dream about further bloodshed in Sri Lanka. You may live in a Western country comfortable and serving your white masters but please leave your poor Tamil borhers and sisters in Sri Lanka alone. They have paid huge prize for some of this Tamil diaspora madness and it’s enough. Secondly how imatured are you talk against about India. It’s the olny country in the world would ever help Tamils to live with diginity.

    175. Bandara Atapattu
    It shows how narrow minded you are. You mean Tamils always want bloodshed and destruction. The LTTE was not there until begynning of 1980’s. Do you think What happened to Tamils since fredom from British? People like you shame yourself by calling their is no griverences for Tamils in SL. This denial is the main reason that Sri Lanka had meaningless war such a long time.

  188. Hope our Tamil brothers and sisters realize that they have been taken for a ride, getting them to sacrifice their kith and kin and their hard earned money towards a cause… to enrich a few people living overseas. A way of life for them and a questionable so called liberation.. of may be a few

  189. I think it is good that he is arrested. But then again he wanted a non military solution to the Thamil grievences. With him gone, the blood thirsty elements may raise their heads again. The innocent Thamil brothers will keep on suffering.

  190. comment no-220. Cavin Selvam
    comment no-240. Elangovan

    Well…. I didn’t mean say that to creat an elarm within
    Sri Lanka. I dont think that will ever happen. with all the sophisticate and with the latest technology, what happen to Americans in Vietnam and now in Afghanistan ? It will happen the same to any one who try to invade Sri Lanka. LTTE was immortal once but they have been eradicated. I don’t believe that it will be end of the conflict. LTTE was only one element of the problem. the SL government will have to address remaining issue with a different Agenda ( politically ) . What I said was to the comment no-220. Cavin Selvam, That the Tamils should try and get a separate land from india, if they really want one. Cos Sri lanka is not a land for Tamils or for Singhalese ! Its for Sri Lnakans. If Muslims, can live in harmony with Singhalese. I don’t know why Tamils can’t ! there had been laps (major ) in the past. But there is no point tamils and Singhalese fighting over it. Europeans (British, Germans, and French) were killing each others in the past. But now they have berried the past and formed United Europe ( I red that some where in the this site ) . I think thats what exactly these two nationalities should do. If they can put the effort and thinking that they put to kill each other, Im sure they will be a super power in the region

  191. 240. Elangovan:

    For a person who is accusing Sinhalese of naked racism and what not, you should first go stand in front of mirror and see what you look like. Perhaps you will be surprised to find out that your are more naked than all Sinhalese put together!

  192. NO more terrorism in Sri Lanka. All peace loving Tamils are against terrorism. If anybody starts terror in Sri Lanka, Army will send them to Prabhakaran to get permission and come back. This is the latest order from the President. This order will not change forever.

  193. may Good god save Varatharajapperumai who declayered
    independant Ealam. May good world respect our democratic wish.
    Parathy

  194. Comment 240. Elangovan:

    Its not that all Sinhalese are racists. And I want say all the Tamils are racists as well. I am not here to accuse any one.
    As i said before in my comment, I dont blame the Tamils for stand against Sinhalese. (And i dont blame you for calling me a racist,) They were brought down to that point by the Sinhalese. My good friend is Tamil and we never had a problem, Never, what so ever that he is Tamil. It was not important at all, it never came up. Thats why I said, we can live in harmony. My dream is, like in U.S.A, there will be a Tamil leader for us in our country one day. Dont miss understand, when i said in my country, it means, an undivided sri lanka, Not in a separate state. I really thought LAKSHMAN KADERAGAMA will be like that. Well, it was made a dream, and it is still a dream. Bottom line is, not ALL Sinhalese are racist. It was just picture painted by the Tamil racists, specially, the ones who lives abroad (The Tamil Diaspora). I am repeating, there had been major laps in the past from the Sinhala majority, but it is not the time to make it an excuse and fighting each other for a separate land. I dont like to call the Tamils live abroad, the Tamils Diaspora community. They have a state to live. That is Sri Lanka. How ever My belief is, The ruling government have to address the issue promptly. If not, There will be no end to this story. Most of Sri Lankans believe that capturing of the territory is not the answer to the problem. !!

  195. Comment 245. Rajiv

    Rajive,
    I just read your post. I am speechless !!
    Don’t forget , there are sinhalese who stand by the tamils.
    (within one country) and its not a little, Its a lot…. !

  196. I read somewhere Gotabaya is claiming that Sri Lanka is Asia’s Israel. Well, this guy is quick to forget the fact that the Sri Lankans hold the unique distinction where a separatist organization to had a navy and an air force. Even Somalia would not allow that. Ha Ha Ha Gotabaya. Wait till the Chinese come demanding their pound of flesh from you. Didn’t you give them Hambantota? If the Chinese and the Pakis didn’t fight for you, you would be in heaven by now.

  197. Comment #254 – R.Silva

    Thank you for your message, based on this I would would not think of accusing you of being anything but a moderate liberal.

    What would you suggest is the best way for the moderate Sinhalese to make their voice heard ? The Tamils have been totally silenced and brutalised and any Tamil asking for their rights are treated as terrorists by the Sinhalese government. If there are moderate Sinhalese that are looking to move on with nation building, and there are such Tamils too, they certainly do not have the power or authority, or influence over the politicians or armed forces to make their opinions heard. And where were these moderate Sinhalese when the 1983 pogrom took place ? Remember, it takes two hands to clap. I think no one is in any doubt about the uselessness of terror as a tactic and about the damage the LTTE have done to the Tamils and to Srilanka, but if that is the only force capable of getting the chauvinistic Sinhalese rulers to come to the table, anything goes.

    So much brutality has happened over the last 60 years that what is happening now seems very consistent. It will take enormous efforts of continued extension of goodwill for many decades by the Sinhalese politically and institutionally towards the Tamils for the latter to feel that Srilanka is their country too. The irony is that the Sinhalese had nothing to fear from giving equal status to the Tamils, the latter were and are more interested in leading normal lives in their own country and home than to corner any influence or territory. It is the insecurity created by each ruler, and the influence of the budhhist hardline clergy that has prevented this and led to the LTTE and now something new and more organised.

    Ramesh, unless there is a broad based liberal movement amongst the Sinhalese to create a multi race nation, there is no point. As it stands, Srilanka looks like becoming a one race nation as the official racial and territorial engineering progresses in the absence of any Tamil resistance.

  198. Comments #240, 242, 243 – various

    You are the mainstream of the racist murderous chauvinistic sinhalese majority that are the main source and continued cause of the ongoing problem. You cannot allow another race to live in peace. You may well qualify in the eyes of your leaders, thugs and religious heads, but you are prehistoric. Trouble is that your army and leaders are just like you. That is what makes Srilanka a bankrupt hobbling toad when it could be a far more glorious multiracial nation.

    As for your really provocative and revealing remarks that all Tamils should be killed, I’ll leave it to other readers and DBSJ himself to decide whether you belong to this forum at all, and should be allowed to continue to contribute in this forum.

  199. Comment #251 – Navin

    Navin, thank you for your message. I am not intentionally racist or chauvinistic. If you feel however that criticism of how the sinhalese majority has treated the Tamils so far is racism, so be it. I have no reason to dislike the sinhalese or any other race. But I do have to make the point that the sinhalese chauvinistic majority (and not everyone that is sinhalese, that is quite clear) has gladly look on as the Tamils have been marginalised, killed, driven out, and now locked up.

    I am all for a mainstream liberal effort on the part of all of Srilanka’s races (the Tamils are driven out/locked up unfortunately, else they too could join) to express complete intolerance for further one-sidedness, and for a multiracial model to emerge. If you are for that, you are like me. If you are against that, you may well call me a racist as you are uncomfortable your sinhalese chauvinistic comfort zone is being threatened.

  200. Some people say that KP wanted to transport the LTTE to a “different LTTE” what I say is that LTTE in any form cannout and should not exist. Its all Sri Lankans and all people should be patriotic Sri Lankans be it Sinhala, Tamil, Muslim or any other minority…………

  201. KP was the ultimate traitor within LTTE, and his betrayal of our leader & thamil nation will be punished. I’m sure he will be ‘well-treated’ in Colombo before he’s extradicted to India

  202. Most Tamils all around the world are in shock and disbelief to hear K.Ps arrest. There are more than a dozen leaders around the world who are more determined than ever to continue the struggle until they attain an independent home land for Tamils. They are all living in countries where human rights are respected, irrespective of race, religion and colour of the skin.Yes; I am very proud being a Canadian.
    Sri Lanka is continuously losing its support in the western world.K.P had publicly renounced violence and chose non-violent way to achieve a peaceful solution for the Tamil people. By his arrest it shows that Gosl has no intention of solving the Tamil issue. They are isolating themselves from rest of the world by this arrest. Government is not even considering finding out the root cause of all this problems. Instead they are more determined to crush any re-immergence of LTTE threat.Gosl should be concentrating on how to win the hearts of the Tamils in order to pursue for a lasting peace in Sri Lanka. Longer it takes to achieve this, harder, it will be for the government to have a viable solution. This is not the time for the government to boast about their victory over Tamils.

    Tamils around the world cannot and will not ever, I repeat, ever forget the burning of the Jaffna public Library by the thugs loyal to the then President Mr.Premadasa in June 1981.Who would with a clear frame of mind destroy a learning Institution that nurtures the brains of the future? That incident had given birth to arm struggle. It is evident that the government is resorting to thuggery(tit for tat) rather than to find means and ways to solve this issue

  203. 263. geofrey:

    Your logic is really interesting man… keep it up. If anyone can commit any damn crime today, and renounce violence tomorrow and be a good boy the next day, the world would be wonderful place… :D

  204. Elangovan, SriKander asked what would Canadians think about Tamil Diaspora and I posted 2 Canadian comments. Here are few more. In some these Canadians are putting everyone in Sri Lanka equal to few LTTE supporters in Canada. I’m not changing a word of those comments;

    1) I guess it was too good to be true that this terrorist organization was stopped for good – Toronto Tamil money is still being sent for the lost cause. The Tamil community in Toronto has ruined its reputation across Canada – they are now treated with scorn and suspicion and prejudice. The demonstrations caused severe damage.

    2) I’m glad that other countries in the world are also against terrorism and my congratulations and thanks go out to the country that helped arrest Pathmanathan. The world is a little bit safer today.

    3) This is the only way to help the Tamils in Sri Lanka. The Canadian Tamils should give up their smear campaign on Sri Lanka. They should stop lying about genocide and try and assist the Sri Lankan government to make the lives of the displaced better. Most of them are deluded and wrapped all around various allegations and Tiger propaganda.

    4) Canada should ban all immigration and refugees from Sri Lanka for 2 or 3 years so Canada does not end up with escaping Tiger terrorists.

    5) Ever since those horrible sri lankens blocked the QEW with children, I have no sympathy for them or their cause.

    They are a vile, horrible people who put kids in harms way.

    Barbarians.
    ——–

    You see, what have you done/? You are not bringing any dignity to Tamils and all Sri Lankans!

  205. Comment -263. geofrey

    Please don’t misinterpret, that the government of SL hailing the victory over Tamils.

    It is a Victory over a terrorist group call LTTE. This does not mean Tamil’s have been defeated.

    It is understood that the LTTE were consist of Tamils but that doesnt mean, all the Tamils are terrorist. That’s the understanding Sri Lankan has.

  206. Face facts Tamil Disapora.
    The Sl militray has come of age.We as a Sinhala nation have the capacity and the ability to defend ourselves from any terrorist threat.
    KP was not betrayed by another Tamil faction. DMI was able to pinpoint him via Prabhkarans captured satellite phone and data from GPS and files.
    Proactive steps are been taken to prevent mother Lanka from being infiltrated by the LTTE remnants.
    Sophisticated thermal imaging surveillance systems to monitor the coastline is being established.
    DMI and Special forces are in the process of eliminating all hardcore LTTE elements both in and out of IDP camps,these elements are beyond “rehabilitation”.
    TID is tracking all suicide bombers at in the process of tracking a female bomber right now.

    Those supporters in the Tamil disapora who lead will also face the wrath.All these diaspora tamil leaders have been identified.Steps have been taken in the last two years that will bear fruit in the near future.The embassies have been tracking and conducting clandestine surveillance.The DMI rendition squads have been in place for several years now.Disappearnces will occur, deaths will be sudden and look like suicide or natural deaths/accidents.
    Most Tamil Diaspora leaders unfortunately are high profile and easily identified.Their high profiles (professors,doctors,lawyers,engineers) make it easier to track and trace.

    The few LTTE that have been placed into “rehabilitatiion” camps are for the show,to placte NGO and foreign powers.Unfortunately for the LTTE all scores are being settled at a pace and with such utter brutality, no-one even Tamils will be even begin to imagine the ferocity of the “interrogations” and vengeance that is being taken.All Tamil war criminals are been “disappeared” at such an efficient and brutal manner that not even their ashes are left as evidence.

  207. Some of you Tamils still think of separatism ha? There are thousands Tamils here in Colombo and other areas going around and doing their business just like us Sinhalese without a fear or problem. The government doing their best to uplift North with all facilities. But surely there be shortcomings. Now the fisherman can go fishing any time of the day. What’s more do you ask. Why you Tamil in other countries keep telling that Tamils in Sri Lanka are suffering when they not? To gain the lost reputation for LTTE back? When will your thirst and greed will be quenched?

  208. Now what the guys should do, get all the Bank details of where the monies are kept and get the Banks to release them to the SL govt., who can then use it to finance the reconstruction of the North.

  209. Comments #265, #267 – various

    The constant refrain seems to me ‘vile Tamil diaspora’ and ‘Tamil war criminals’. What about sinhalese war criminals? Are you comfortable and happy that 20,000 innocent Tamil civilians were murdered by sinhalese war criminals ? Of course you are, as you must be part of the same chauvinistic flag waving war criminal community.

    Remember you chauvinistic sinhalese, as long as you continue to have your head stuck up your narrow blinkered budhhist view of the world, you may seem like winning. But all the crimes you, your religious brothers and your criminal army and politicians commit against innocent Tamils will not go unanswered.

  210. As a tamil , What SL doing for the LTTE mistake is not correct . it seems SL going to pay a heavy price down the line in the history…

  211. #245 –Rajiv –

    1) What Singhalese not understanding is that they should use only tamil language in tamil area for all purpose.Until problem will never solve. once they start implementing this, they will automatically ended up forming a tamil state in sl as if in india.
    2) What Tamils in Srilanka MUST understand that they have to demonstrate and pull all Tamils in Tamilnadu to support them to get a separate state or Nation in SL for them . No matter how they try using LTTE or cry infront of UN will give no impact.

  212. Comment 257

    Dear Elangovan

    You still talk about 1983 which is 26 years in the history. I have been going on telling
    In this thread That there had been major laps and mistakes have had happen in the past by the Sinhalese. But it does not mean to say all the Sinhalese were invold in this riots.
    May be the politicians also wanted that to happen. I was very small when thease thing took place. But after perusing the recent past it was clear that lot of injustice has had happen to the Tamil community.
    And after thirty years of war and terror, its not easy to change the Sinhalese masses mind set over this issue. For them, its always suspicious to be around a Tamil. We cant blame them ether. Its just like the Tamils (mostly living abroad) think of a Sinhalese.
    And what exactly happened was they (Tamils living abroad) use this mind set to cultivate anger against Sinhalese and they help the LTTE to fight against GOSL to get there share. In other side Sinhalese rulers used the anti Tamil mind set to win the elections. Unfortunately, it was only LTTE was there to represent them. Actually, LTTE made them self the only savior of Tamils by eradicating the rest of the Tamil groups
    In north and east. Im sure you will agree with me in this context. In a Sinhalese point of view, is it fare to give 50 percent of the administrative power of the country to the minority of 12 percent?
    What happened here is no one loves Sri Lanka. They only love there race. Majority of Singhalese is afraid that the Tamils that they will over power them. Tamils always think that they need to be separate from the Sinhalese and to have there administration on there own.
    Now this is the point we got to iron out. We have to bring the Sinhalese mentality to
    A state where they have to think, Tamils are not a threat, and also Tamils have to portrait the Idea that they also want to be treated equally in an UNDIVIDED country. This is far away easy said than done. But we got to start somewhere. ! Violence and terror is not the answer! As you say getting the chauvinistic Sinhalese rulers to come to the table, anything goes. Is proven wrong.
    Im sorry but I dont agree with you on the statement you have said that the Sri lanka is becoming a racist nation. We are not racists. There are more Sinhalese like me who think, dream about a peaceful nation. And I am pretty sure there are Tamil brothers who think the same.

  213. What ever happen let it be??? Tamils now seem not to worry too much on politics, they want 300,000 people to go to their home and rebuild their lives.

    next is Tamils in diaspora want to visit their villages in Northern Sri lanka.

    third Tamils expecting reasonable and justifying solution for them to self rule their provinces to safe guard their villages, lands, languages, and religion culture.

    they also dont want sinhalase colonies in northern provice, but govenrment keen on making new sinhala villages in Tamil heart land.

    what sinhala leaders and tamil leaders sowed in past, reaped now.

    now what sinhala leaders and tamil leaders gonna sow, will bear its fruit in future.

    let them who have powers think and decide. if they want peace for their grand childrens.

  214. 272. sadhic:

    1) Could you please let me know what those exclusive Tamil areas are? I live in Sri Lanka but I do not know of any such area.
    2) Suppose there exist such areas and I agree to your request, would you allow me to use Sinhala and just Sinhala every where else? Or is it that you want Tamils to have exlusive rights to so called your part of the country but equal rights every where else?

  215. Comment 274

    Comment 274 was not posted by me.
    I suggest that the blogger who did the comment 274
    to use a different name to avoid misunderstanding.

  216. comment -271 sadhic

    We all agree, England is one of the countries which they respect human rights. but do you ever think , just because they have lots of Indian in a area, that they will make Hindi language the official language in that area ? no, that will not happen. English will remain the official language. I don’t think its fare to make the Tamil language the official language in any are. in the first place, i don’t agree that there are Tamil areas there in sri lanka. but practicing both language in every area is a good solution.also giving the equal rights, not only for tamils but to every community who lives in sri lanka is a must thing. We have to respect every ones culture.

    And it is very clear that India will never help Tamils to have a separate land in sri lanka because they know that the second step will be, tamilnadu will want to be a separate state from India.

  217. 274. Ramesh Silva

    If you do not want Sinhala colonies in the north we Sinhalese also do not want Tamil colonies in Dehiwala, Wallawatta, Negambo and Upcountry. In short, should Tamils take this stand, we too do not want Tamils living anywhere else except in the north and east. That too NOT the north and the east as established by current provincial boundaries but north and the east as they were during Kandian times. Remember, that this would exclude more or less entire Wanni/Manner/Trinco/Batti from your TE. So please stop these racist utterances now, once and for all– PERIOD, unless you want to be caged up in Jaffna, of course.

    Sinhalese have lived in the north and in the east of this country long before Hindu/Tamil rule was established in Jaffna. Moreover, Sinhalese rule over north and east extends for over 2000 years where as Jaffna kingdom is at most few hundred years. Besides, the last king of Jaffna may have been under the control of Kotte king though evidence is disputed by Tamil historians. So they have a right to live there and every where. In fact, there should be Sinhala settlements in north and east just so that Tamils do not carry on this view that north and the east is exclusively theirs to rule, if not for anything else.

    For a group of people who are ever ready to castigate Sinhalese as racist, chauvinist, extremist and what not, its astounding the amount of very same blabber that you spit out every day.

  218. Comments #273, #274 – R.Silva

    Dear Ramesh, thanks for your comments. Though 1983 was 26 years back, the murder of 20,000 Tamil civilians was two months ago, done over a couple of days. The common theme is that the Sinhalese government/army will not stop at brutal mass murder of Tamils, if they have the upper hand over them. That has formed the context for today’s thinking. With another twist. Sinhalese triumphalism.

    Due to that, the Sinhalese leaders, army and budhhist clergy are thinking only of consolidating their victory over the defenceless Tamils now, and are not thinking of sowing seeds of reconciliation. The aces are all with the Sinhalese now, and Tamils on the island are a subject population with no rights nor abilities to do anything. That should be clear from the way IDP are caged, northern and eastern common Tamils are treated as guilty unless going out of their way to prove innocence. Two million Tamil terrorists is what Rajapakse/Fonseka/monks and a large section of the Sinhalese populace are thinking.

    It is therefore unrealistic in the extreme for you to be saying what Tamils should be doing. You and others like you should be focussing on getting the triumphalist chauvinism of the Sinhalese channelled into mature thought, to restore equality for Tamils, and to ensure that Tamils are made to feel part of the country. That will then sow seeds that will lead to Srilanka emerging as a stronger country.

    Today, I can assure you all that the Sinhalese have succeeded in doing is to embitter and alienate the Tamils so much that they are convinced the Sinhalese want to wipe them out as a race, and I must agree with this thought. Between Rajapakse, the budhhist hardline monks, Fonseka and other racist chauvinists, there is absolutely no hope that Tamils will see any equality or freedom. And a very Tamil speciality, the quislings, are helping the government for their own selfish ends.

    So where does that leave liberals like you or the vast majority of other Sinhalese that you refer to ? They end up being silent observers, and abettors of the racial crimes of the government/army/monks by virtue of their silence.

  219. Comments #273, #274 – R.Silva

    Dear Ramesh, thanks for your comments. Though 1983 was 26 years back, the murder of 20,000 Tamil civilians was two months ago, done over a couple of days. The common theme is that the Sinhalese government/army will not stop at brutal mass murder of Tamils, if they have the upper hand over them. That has formed the context for today’s thinking. With another twist. Sinhalese triumphalism.

    Where did you get this number 20,000? Did you count the dead bodies? You use your money to wet the hands of some journalist in London Times to say 20,000 died and then come and tell us that London Times says 20,000 died. In this case, soon after this particular report appeared, every body else also increased their numbers citing the first report.

    What do you think SLA stand to gain by wasting their bombs on Tamils who do not know how to fight? After all those bombs are not dime a dozen but cost us a hell of a lot of money. Unless you start using you brain to see what is behind this curtain of lies you will do no good to either community. That is assuming you are not the one who is spreading the lies in the first place.

    In fact your statement is even worst. You are not even saying SLA killed Tamils, you are saying Sinhalese are killing Tamils. If the Sinhalese wanted to wipe out Tamils and their culture, we would have done that when your treacherous gang of cut-throats tried to destroy our economy (central back, Colombo port, oil depot, air port, etc.) our culture (Sri Dalaga Maligawa, Aranthalawa, etc.), our people (those border villages, commuters in public transport– over 600 killed in dozen different attacks during last few months alone…) and the list goes on and on. In spite of all this not a single Tamil was harmed in Colombo or in up country. Yet you diaspora Tamils shameless say that Sinhalese are killing Tamils to wipe out their culture.

    Prior to this 20,000 number came up, which UN disassociated itself citing they were not allowed into the killing field, the number was 7,000. Even then, how do you distinguish between an LTTE cadre dressed in civilian cloths and a civilian? All LTTE cadres dress like civilians and you take away their arms and take picture and now as far as the western media is concerned we have a civilian death. How convenient?

    Besides, why is it necessary for Sinhalese to wipe out Tamil culture? Don’t Sinhalese already have enough ruins in Anuradhapura, Polonnaruam, Kandy, etc. and other historic artifacts all over the country to make their claim?

    I’m not denying that civilians got killed during the war but its just ridiculous to accuse SLA let alone entire Sinhala population of purposely killing Tamils to wipe out their culture. What is worst is that there seem to be no shortage of people who are ever more ready to believe these bloody lies.

    Due to that, the Sinhalese leaders, army and budhhist clergy are thinking only of consolidating their victory over the defenceless Tamils now, and are not thinking of sowing seeds of reconciliation. The aces are all with the Sinhalese now, and Tamils on the island are a subject population with no rights nor abilities to do anything. That should be clear from the way IDP are caged, northern and eastern

    What do you expect the government to do with regard to the IDPs?

    The government has clearly said they will be resettled as soon as possible and until then their needs will be looked after. And it seems to be doing a decent job in making sure that these people are fed three times a day, that they do not die of disease and the children are allowed to continue their education. You cannot expect the government to release these people into Wanni for that place is an open warehouse of lethal weapons. Unless of course recovery of those weapons is your objective.

    Then what have you got to say about those LTTE cadres hiding behind civilians? Unless they are filtered out they will come back and create havoc in North and South rendering the hard earned peace in vein. Look Mr. Elangovan, IDP s are civilians that I agree with you. Not all of them are terrorists either. But good number of terrorists are hiding among them. After you abuse the civil liberties you are entitled to, to massacre other civilians as LTTE has done, you must be prepared to have those liberties revoked from you until we are clear who the abusers are. If IDP s and you have any sense you will understand this rather than expecting the Sun, the Moon and the Stars from Sri Lankan government.

    Of course I know that living in a far away land you diaspora Tamils don’t give a damn about impact of terrorism on our economy or economic hardships all Sri Lankans have to face if terrorism were to reappear or if LTTE cadres were to escape from among those IDP s and start planting bombs in public transport services bringing the whole country to a stand still. It is not you who will lose your life, your kith and kin but people like me who need to go about our daily lives come LTTE or NOT.

    It is tragic that these people have to live in those camps but there doesn’t seem to be any other alternative that would make their lives easier while ensuring the safety of other Sri Lankans. It is not just the immediate present of these people that have been destroyed but for any Tamil born after the 80s its his entire life that has been destroyed. That is something that you do not get to live again. The best thing would be for IDP s and diaspora to cooperate with the government to eradicate the LTTE and resettle the IDP s.

    common Tamils are treated as guilty unless going out of their way to prove innocence. Two million Tamil terrorists is what Rajapakse/Fonseka/monks and a large section of the Sinhalese populace are thinking.

    Two million terrorists? We only have 280,000 IDP s. Please get your numbers right.

    It is therefore unrealistic in the extreme for you to be saying what Tamils should be doing. You and others like you should be focussing on getting the triumphalist chauvinism of the Sinhalese channelled into mature thought, to restore equality for Tamils, and to ensure that Tamils are made to feel part of the country. That will then sow seeds that will lead to Srilanka emerging as a stronger country.

    I agree that there is triumphalist chauvinism among sections of Sinhalese. After all they too are humans and not perfect souls. BUT if you look at the two main political parties both political parties have accepted the need for some form of power devolution to get Tamils into the political decision making process. So there is no “triumphalist chauvinism” in places that matter. The “triumphalist chauvinism” after all is the creation of LTTE for what they did during last 30 years.

    Sinhalese channelled into mature thought, to restore equality for

    What equality are you talking about. Can you list where Tamils are discriminated in Sri Lanka today? Today, this struggle is not about gaining equality but about gaining political power– and how much of it. I have written about this before and I won’t write the same here again.

    Today, I can assure you all that the Sinhalese have succeeded in doing is to embitter and alienate the Tamils so much that they are convinced the Sinhalese want to wipe them out as a race, and I must agree

    If Tamils are convinced that Sinhalese want to wipe them out then there is nothing we Sinhalese can do other than empathies with you for your utter stupidity.

    with this thought. Between Rajapakse, the budhhist hardline monks, Fonseka and other racist chauvinists, there is absolutely no hope that Tamils will see any equality or freedom. And a very Tamil speciality, the quislings, are helping the government for their own selfish ends.


    What is so different about Fonseka saying this country belong to Sinhalese from Kumar Ponnambalam, VP, Sambandan, etc. etc. saying North and East belongs to the Tamils? You have no problem with the latter right?

    I just hate writing this type of answers for no matter how many times you explain these things, people like you keep asking the same set of questions. May be we should create an FAQ in this blog so that when the next #279. Elangovan comes tomorrow, I can just cite this response.

  220. I do not know who is in the backgroup for the webpage paranthan.com; There is a link to it from yarl.com.

    Now, paranthan.com got some ‘gossip’ news suggesting KP staged a kidnap drama, but he surreneded voluntarily.

    If the ‘longman’ is behind paranthan.com, then it is clear who is the real cause of KP’s arrest.

  221. >>278. Navin | August 12th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    If you do not want Sinhala colonies in the north we Sinhalese also do not want Tamil colonies in Dehiwala

    NAvin, I hear over and again about a lot of honest Sinhalese asking why they cannot live in Jaffna. They can live in Jaffna as far as they do not have ‘sandiya’ attitude. Sinhalease, like Tamils can live anywhere in Sri Lanka as far as they do not BELIEVE they are the boss of all tamils surrounding.

    (Desa Valamai law is another issue. Tamils are NOT responsible for that lazy law)

  222. >278 Besides, the last king of Jaffna may have been under the control of Kotte king though evidence is disputed by Tami

    I do not know enough history about Jaffna kingdom. Lets say what you say is true. It is a history again that Kandy was ruled by Tamil kings (assuming sinhalese psedo names like Rajasinghe) UNTIL the English conquered Kandy.

    So, you want to swap Kandy and Jafna? All Kandyas to move to Jaffna and vice versa!

  223. comment 274- Ramesh Silva

    Please identify your self in a different name as
    this thread is getting confused.

  224. Well Said Navin!!! These people have not learnt the consequences of being racists still and utter rubbish in this url. All what i can say this Ramesh and Sydney – Tamoul have biological inferior complex which they try to spit out on us.
    They cannot live in harmoney and reconciliation in this small island. What have these people have done to Sri Lanka so far? Nothing but spit out vengeance and ruin the economy….

    Sydney _ Tamoul, if you do not know the History , for godsake do not display your illiteracy and your inability to move with sinhalese people with your rigid, baseless statements.

  225. Elangovan ,

    I think Navin in his comment 280 has given a detailed answer to most of the
    Question that I need to answer..
    You need to understand that the GOSL did what they have to do. They fort aginst terrorism. You are trying to margin all the Sinhalese as hardliners. you delibratly forgotten the Tamil community who live in the other part of the country. You talk as if whole of Sri lankan living Tamils are in side those camps.
    When we understand that NOT all Tamils are terrorist, why are you keep on
    Trying to black list every Singhalese as a racist?
    You’ll need to change this attitude. If not we are not going any ware. You said that we need both hands to clap.
    And there is another thing about the Tamils who live abroad(TWLA). ( idon’t like to call it a daispora as it means a community without a land. But Tamils has a land. It is SRI LANKA )
    They were so worried about the Tamil civilians who was captured in the no fire zone.
    We all know that they were kept behind by the LTTE as a human shield. Then the tamils who lives abroad (TWLA) were so hyper and trying to send rations by force through a ship call “captain ali” but what happened to that enthusiasm? TWLA is only concern about the war. They want a war going on within Sri lanka . may be it will help them to ensure there happy life abroad. But once the war is done for good and there are Tamils in
    North and south who really need support, the TWLA is only talking about that IDP camps and only trying to voice there opinion about it. Isnt it the high time for TWLA to plan another couple of shipments like “ CAPTAIN ALI “ to Sri Lanka ? it is the time now ………… ! if the TWLA is really interested in there brothers and sisters in nort and south of Sri Lanka, now the time to show them that you care. Not by just shouting but by the act.
    Help us to rebuild there lives. And we need all of you’ll (TWLA) to come back to Sri Lanka one day. Some body may call me a Dreamer. But I am happy to live in that dream.

  226. What a saint, Now he wants the LTTE to be non violant, after killing all those innocent Sinhalese people including little Sihala babies.There is a saying in Sinhalese that ” the Tiger may change the territory, but would not change the spots on its body. well done Maharajaneni.You saved a nation from ruthless slayers.

  227. to comment 287-ramesh silva

    what is happening is on the other bloggers computer in the leave a comment column your name must be there. it happenned to me a couple of times. once i forgot to erase it and it went in the other fellows name.

    with regard to the captain ali which had food and medicines, the government only unloaded it last sunday after 3 months. i dont know the politics or what behind the shipment, but it looks akward for the shipper who will have to bear massive demurrage costs unnecessarily. bes thing now without waiting or more ships that the government doesn’t really want, they can just release the IDPs and resettle them, without making it such a big issue.

  228. Sri Lanka celebtaed victoy over Tamils by locking away some 300,000 civilians in detention camps.While their fellow citizens are being treated like animals in captivity,the Sinhalese politicians and their supporters are wining and dining in hotels around Colombo in celebraton. Every Sinhalese should be ashamed of this inhuman treatment to fellow human beings. Sinhalaese living in Sri Lanka get to hear only the government side of the story.They are in no way of knowing what’s taking place in vanni, due to media restrictions imposed by Gosl.
    Sri Lankan politicians are living in a different world.They are living like as we say in Tamil:“living like frogs in a well”.They should come out and see how others are living and sharing the world around them, especially in western world.While I was sitting in a church attending a mass on a Sunday evening in my home town in Canada, I realise how fortunate I am to live in a country where I see people of different backgrounds whether be black,white,brown or yellow; gather in a common place, for a common cause; in this case to worship God, say hello to persons sitting around and sharing the world .Sri Lanka has a lot to learn from Canada.

    It is very hard for Sinhalese politicians and the Buddhist clergy to visualise this in Sri Lanka.One should not bring religion into politics. On the contrary in Sri Lanka, politics and religion are intertwined. One doesn’t exist without the other, which is very, very unfortunate and Tamils are paying heavy price for it.

  229. Thanks Elangova for fantastic posts. Continue, and ignore sinha-racists with such a dirty mouth that they need a lot of soap to clean it. I see some of them here are admiring Guantanamo-like concentration camps where 300,000 Tamil Hindus imprisoned. Then go there and enjoy starvation, murder and rape. Or better yet sent all of their beloved, mothers, fathers, babies, wives experience, constant unbearable climate fear and helplessness, endless rivers of tears, gut wrenching heart ache, inconceivable horrors perpetrated by brutal Sri Lanka Government of President Mahinda

  230. Comment #280 – Navin

    Dear Navin, no FAQ is required. All I ask is for you racist Sinhalese to reflect for a minute on the consequences your unending hatred for Tamils is having, and stop blaming diaspora Tamils for everything your racist army and politicians are causing to Tamils on the island.

    You perhaps choose to ignore that Tamils outside of Srilanka have very little hope of actually visiting Vanni and doing anything for their kith and kin, as the army takes great pleasure in denying humanitarian access, and riddiculing (yes, this happened to a close friend when he went to see his Mother) them as losers. That if anything has hardened my attitude towards deniers and racists like yourself.

    Navin, you perhaps have grown up in isolation inside a cave, and got your education from budhhist monks alone, without any exposure to the liberal world. Everyone deserves rights, even the IDPs, even if they happen to be Tamil, without the benefit of your righteous talk after all the massacres.

    So, stop frothing in your mouth, and start using your brain to think why such posts are getting acrimonious. And do not bother to respond to my post, as you’re wasting your time denying the obvious and right.

  231. Comment #287 – R.Silva

    Dear Ramesh, thanks for your post. I am a little disappointed to see you agree with polarised racists like Navin, for I take you for a balanced liberal.

    Allow me please to set out some factual responses to some of the points you made :

    1. Tamils living in Srilanka are as a whole insecure, and more prone to arrest, detention and disappearance than Sinhalese. That is indisputable. Not only Srilankan Tamils, but Indian Tamil fishermen that occasionally stray into Srilankan waters too can get killed, as happened with the 7 fishermen from Thootukkudi recently. Compare that to how we treat Sinhalese fishermen being caught in Indian waters, we detain, look after, and then return them back.

    So, while claims are made by Rajapakse and others that ‘not a single Tamil house was destroyed, not a single Tamil humiliated’, the reality is, believe me, the opposite. Many Sinhalese I speak to openly say they cannot trust the entire Tamil community, and many Sinhalese bloggers here refer to the entire Srilankan Tamil community as terrorists. I am merely collating those thoughts.

    2. It is best to refer to the overseas Srilankan Tamil community as the Diaspora. I cannot see how many of them would consider it safe to return to Srilanka and again be subjected to the same humiliation, hatred and dispossession. You, dear Ramesh, have read many of the posts here of Tamils that have been forced to leave Srilanka. And I know of many Tamils in Mandapam and other camps in India, Canada and Europe that have returned to Srilanka once or even twice, only to be forced to leave again. So, please do not say, even if well intentioned, that their land is Srilanka. It definitely may have been, but the Sinhalese do not want them back there. And some Tamils that visited the Nallur Kandaswamy temple recently for the Adi festival experienced several hardships in trying to celebrate the event, they came back very bitter and shattered upon seeing their homes/villages bearing marks of ravage and depopulated, cleared of vegetation.

    3. As for the confinement by the LTTE of civilians, that is a crime of unparalleled proportions, I agree. There is no denying the cynical and murderous intent of the LTTE with only their interests in mind, and not even of their own countrymen, the Tamils. Having said that, the confined Tamils expected, as they had been marshalled by force unwillingly by the LTTE, that the army would be a benign liberator. Proven wrong, first by the indiscriminate bombing with heavy mortar resulting in 20,000 deaths, and then by the heartless cruel caging of the survivors with no rights or contacts with family. Compassionate budhhists that worried about an elephant calf being seperated from its mother, are happy to see Tamil children orphaned, and living seperately from their parents. So, when it comes to Tamils, the Sinhalese mind hardens, and becomes viciously cruel.

    4. You ask why no further humanitarian shipments are being arranged by the diaspora. The clear answer lies in the experience the racist Srilankan government gave the Captain Ali. Going all out to deny the imprisoned IDPs this relief, they have not yet cleared the shipment under various pretexts, and many of the items are past due date and must be discarded. Do you know, dear Ramesh, how much expense is incurred in preparing a relief ship like the Captain Ali ? Your government may borrow endlessly from patron states to bomb the Tamil areas, but hardworking Tamil civilians that have built a new life overseas after being expelled from their homeland, cannot tap indefinitely into financial resources. Yes, you’ll ask how some of them contributed to the LTTE. That was extortion under threat of death/harm.

    Also, you’ll agree that the diaspora Tamils cannot send another shipment only for the racist Srilankan government to again play tennis with it for the sheer pleasure of seeing their heartburn. What’s the point ? To pander to the Sinhalese government’s thirst to show their power over the Tamils inside the island and outside ?

    5. To repeat my earlier statements, unless Tamils are extended a hand of compassion and equality, and accepted as they are, without restrictions, humiliations, and racist treatment, no Tamil can consider Srilanka anything but a war zone. No harm in dreaming, the key question is what are you and liberals like you going to do to realise this dream ?

  232. 292. Elangovan:

    Can someone please explain to me what this guy is saying?

    X says Sinhalese are racist, killing Tamis, etc. etc.

    I explain my position and ask him to show me where sinhalese are racist, kill Tamils etc. etc.

    X again says Sinhalese are racist, killing Tamis, etc. etc.

    I ask again, please show me where sinhalese are racist, kill Tamils etc. etc.

    X again says Sinhalese are racist, killing Tamis, etc. etc.

    I stop saying anything.

    X again says Sinhalese are racist, killing Tamis, etc. etc.

    pause

    X again says Sinhalese are racist, killing Tamis, etc. etc.

    pause

    X again says Sinhalese are racist, killing Tamis, etc. etc.

    pause
    X again says Sinhalese are racist, killing Tamis, etc. etc.

    What is wrong with these people? This like some broken tape recorder for ever stuck in repeat.

  233. Comment #286 – kaushilochana

    Dear Kaushilochana, what biological inferiority spillage are you referring to ? And who is holding 300,000 prisoners in Vanni ? Please ask those people why there is no peace on the island. The LTTE is gone, but not for the racist Sinhalese who need the LTTE more than the Tamils do, to keep their celebrations and atrocities going. The LTTE terrorised the island in the past, so now you racist Sinhalese are going to continue treating all Tamils as terrorists forever.

    And more recently I’m noticing posts like yours, referring to an apparent biological superiority of the Sinhalese over the Tamils. This is nothing but pure nazi ideology. You Sinhalese have concentration camps, you have bombed out entire Tamil villages, you have genocide of a people, the only thing missing was the racial superiority angle which you’ve now completed.

  234. Comment #294 – Navin

    Dear Navin, do you read/write English well ? Unfortunately this forum is only in English, and many of us cannot understand Sinhalese even if you were to communicate better in it. I’m sorry, I cannot understand what you’re trying to say. Best is not to say anything, but to go and meditate, you’ll realise what I’m saying.

  235. >>286. kaushilochana | August 13th, 2009 at 1:23 am

    I DID NOT SAY I do not know history. I said I did not know Jaffna history.

    IT is HISTORY THAT KANDY was ruled by Tamils for generations. Ask your grandpa if you do not know.

    Also Tamil is spelled as Tamil. Get your dictionary. I do not think it was a simple type !

    Can you explain what you mean “Nothing but spit out vengeance and ruin the economy.”

    Does Sri Lanka have an economy? errr?

    If you think that otherways, I love SriLanka. At the same time, I am a proud Tamil. And still I am a Sri Lankan. And I have true good Sinhalese with whom I will argue Sri Lankan issues; They will agree/disagree, but we are still friends.. THey are not the Gothabaya, MR, SF category.

  236. 267. pussykilla | August 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
    Face facts Tamil Disapora.
    The Sl militray has come of age.We as a Sinhala nation have the capacity and the ability to defend ourselves from any terrorist threat

    —-

    Errr, how do you spell

    (1) RAW (2) India radars (3) Indian arms (3) Training from India (4) Arms from China (5) Intelligence from India

  237. # 257 Mr Elangovan

    I don’t know whether its right to ask where the moderators were in 83. We did all possible within our capacity. I was only a 23 year old youngster then and we kept four tamil boys who were lodgers in the vicinity for several nights not anywhere but on top of our very ceiling to save them from the mobs of the beach slums who came looking for them. I was a bit of a rioter turned street leader in that area in Mount at the time and the mobs wouldn’t dare check my ceiling. Then we did a daring walk choosing back yards of compounds I knew so well, playing street cricket, to take them to the safety of the cop shed on a midnight. Also, Together, we were able to save a house in the neighourhood that was owned by Tamils we didn’t know from Adam that was just torched by the mobs. We worked as one unit one whole night and within curfew hours dragging water and sand across deserted by roads whilst some kept guard fearing a repeated attack by the mobs. It was so long ago but it brings a tear to one’s eye when one reads what Mr Elangovan had written.

  238. #294, Navin,

    You can’t blame the likes of Elangovan. It’s not his fault. This band of Tamilnadu tamils (in the seeman, kolathur mani group) know about the SL issue only in the way some chauvinistic elements in TN would want them to know. Unfortunately, the mainstream tamil media in Tamilnadu is fanning this mentality. If you read the past 9 or 10 months’ issues of Vikatan, Kumudam and other magazines in Tamil, you would find them echoing a similar view. Most of the articles in these magazines portray the entire sinhalese community as devil incarnate, getting thrill and pleasure in killing and raping tamils and so on. Any comments in these magazines, especially vikatan, by neutral observers like me criticizing the ltte is ruthlessly censored. The articles in these mags would put tamilnet, puthinam and athirvu to shame. The funny part of these articles is, in as much as they ask for proof and logic in all their other articles, when it comes to the SL tamil issue all logic goes out of the window and the issue is ruled by emotions. Have you noticed how Elangovan has not answered how he arrived at the figure of 20,000 deaths in mullaivaikkal? Perhaps the same logic by which this crowd was believing when ltte propaganda was claiming that the kalmadukulam tank burst had killed around 1000 SLA soldiers. These mags are still claiming that some of the tigers hiding in the eastern jungles are still killing the SL army soldiers in scores. Fortunately, the English language media has not gotten into this trap and a few tamil dailies like dinamalar still maintain a balanced view. And fortunately again, majority of the magazine reading middle class tamilnadu population treats these SL issue articles as yet another story and don’t attach much importance to them . But a small band swallows everything hook, line and sinker and it is this band that is vocal in many blogs.

  239. comment 298
    “Errr, how do you spell

    (1) RAW (2) India radars (3) Indian arms (3) Training from India (4) Arms from China (5) Intelligence from India”

    Err can you spell-
    Velu P dead in his underwear, along the banks of a insignificant little lagoon.

    Face facts, end of the day DEAD is DEAD. Face fact number two- far as the entire world is concerned the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist. Face fact number 3- change your attitudes or forever be labelled a community that condoned, bred and nurtured terrorists.

  240. While I was going to engineering school in England, many of my friends were Sinhalese. Now I see that distrust among two communities is creeping in as the government continues to keep the civilians in detention camps.

    My wife used to tell me how her father shielded the seasonally residing Sinhalese fishermen in the coastal villages in Mullaithivu, from some Tamil rioters in the late 50’s, early 60’s, during the time of civil unrest.

    He single-handedly saved their lives by hiding the entire sinhalese community in his banana plantation, feeding them for days and when tension eased between the two communities, he loaded them up in trucks, risked his life by travelling with them armed with a shot gun, and saw them safely returned to their respective villages in the South, around Negambo area. My wife still fondly remembers some of their names, addressing them as “mamas”.

    Now the sons (and their families) of the hero who saved the lives of a number of Sinhalese families are in camps with squalid living condition. I hear that due to heavy down pour around the area during the past few days, they have no choice but to sleep on rain soaked mud. They have lost everything in life. I guess nobody is going to come to save them this time around.

    As Dr.Anton Balasinham put it before he died; “Only God can save the Tamils from the Sinhalese regime”.

  241. 293. Elangovan

    Appreciate your corresponding to my post. First of all I must say, any one who posts a comment is beyond my judgment. So I leave it to the readers who visit this post.

    Though I really have no idea of what happen in the Indian waters or in the sri lankan waters in the north/east, I must say, As country, we are in a post-war period. And mostly it was a war against terrorism. Its not that I am trying to justify what happen with the situation you have mention, but there can be issues where terrorist who still trying to intercept. There for things would have been that way. I am layman bout what happened so there for I really can’t give you an explanation on the issue.
    But I must tell you, We deliberately haven’t destroyed any Tamils property, Nor we don’t claim all the Tamils are terrorist. You should understand, if any injustice have had happen to the Tamils in North and east, it is clearly the because of the act of LTTE.

    As you say some of the Tamils may find it difficult to come down to sri lanka and start as it is new at this point as I mention before. May be because of death threats or for any reason they may have been with the LTTE and in the processes they might find it little difficult to visit SL. But in time to come, we will be able to arrange a better surrounding for them to come and visit or to live. I guess it little unfair to expect every thing under the sun at this juncture.

    My friend, the news about the nallur kovil is to the contradictory for what I know. It was in full blast and there had been lots of tamils have come to pay there respect on July 27. May be there had been ups and downs but thousands of Hindus in the jafna peninsula was there on that day. Mind you, the cufue which use to be on the night was even up lifted during the Kovil festival to enable the devotees to freely exercise their religious rights.

    Don’t forget that we have been fighting a guerrilla war affair and it was not a conventional war. Most of the LTTE carders were not dress in combat uniforms. It is very clear that most of the LTTE casualties were dress in civil cloths. And it had been reviled that some of the carders who was dress in uniforms were dressed in civil by the LTTE to portrait the wrong message. If you really take a look at the superior LTTE carders, Charles Anthony for that matter, was dressed in civil clothing. And as it was stated in one of the post, I don’t agree by the figures you have given(20,000 civil causalities). Any way, it was a guerrilla war as I mention above. Civil causalities can be expected in an unconventional war afar. It is very clear that is normal when you take a look at the international guerilla war afar. ( this doesn’t mean to say that GOSL have done it deliberately) I’m sure yo are aware of the incident in Afghanistan where the most human right protected country U.S.A deploy a drone attack to a mistaken target and 140 innocent civilians were killed, lady Clinton only said “sorry”. What ever said and done, there is no excuse to kill the innocent. But what we need to understand is it happened in SL, because of a Tamil fighting group called LTTE. It is up to the erudite to decide who is at fault. And it is very unfair by you keep on blaming the Sinhalese for what happen. Just like LTTE were consist of tamils, it doent mean say that evry tamil is LTTE. And SL army did what they have to do. And just because of that, don’t blame the Sinhalese and I request you to stop repeating that Sinhalese kill Tamils.

    Talking about Captain Ali, The Tamils who lives abroad was very keen on sending the ship direct to north ( I really don’t know where it was suppose to dock) and my learned friend, you very well know it was beyond the stranded protocols. You just can’t send a ship to a place where you want. Any shipment has to clear it’s country’s custom and quarantine formalities. And when a shipment is not willing to declare what it has, any stupid will understand why it is. We all know that was the reason Captain Ali was sent back. But if the Tamils who lives abroad are really keen on what they do, they can send there donations in the correct channels. I’m sure in that way, it will reach the needy innocent in the north and east. Actually it is difficult to feed more than two hundred thousand three times a day without a help.
    Lastly, what I have to as I have been repeating like a parrot in my earlier posts, We Sinhalese are not racist. You always talking about the Tamils who were caught in between the fighting in north and east.
    Why don’t you pay your attention to the Tamils who live in rest of the parts in this Island ? Do you know how many Tamil radio channels are there in sri lanka ? How many Tamil T.V channels are there in Sri Lanka ? it is in par to the Singhalese channels, my friend. As I told you earlier, if some mishap have had happen, its only in the post-war zone areas. Apart from that from that, Tamils live peacefully in this country. It is high time to stop talking about the past and what happen during the war and to go for a fresh bigining.

    You are asking me what I can do realize this dream. Its our attitude!! There are lot of Singhalese like me. We will make our tamil brothers understand of this. It is been made difficult by the informant who gives the world the negative picture for there narrow concepts. But we will keep going on. It will take time. But for sure it will happen!!

  242. Comment #303 – R.Silva

    Dear Ramesh, many thanks. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, as you’ve oriented a very balanced argument entirely hinging on the acts of the LTTE, totally absolving the wantonness of the army, government, politicians and chauvinist public, all of which happen to be Sinhalese.

    Yes, as I agreed, the LTTE did destroy a lot of goodwill. But remember, the LTTE was forced to come into existence as Tamils were being trampled upon. Now we have the same without the LTTE, though the LTTE are now the reason for the trampling! That is what I’m trying to point out.

    And the reluctance of Tamils to return to Srilanka is not because of their association with the LTTE but due to the hostility of the same SInhalese groups I’ve mentioned earlier. My good friend who is a Srilankan Tamil could not see his mother at Manic Farm because the security did not allow him. And he claimed bitterly he did not know any Sinhalese politicans or army commanders to bribe his way there. And to top it all, apparently one of the army people he interacted with taunted him as a loser. Remember, there is enormous hostility that is unending, so please go further than just the LTTE.

    Lastly, remember please, dear Ramesh, that the religious hardliners have only gotten more strong and determined to make Srilanka a Sinhalese island. The forces driving Sinhalese society are all hardline, and there is no balancing force on the part of the Tamils. Perhaps you and other liberals can be that balancing force by raising your profile.

    The day you and your liberal friends give credit to the genuine aspirations of Tamil people, and understand in balance what they fear from the Sinhalese and attempt to redress the grevious harm that has been done to Tamil life, property and aspirations, that is when there can be any progress in Srilanka. Otherwise, we’ll continuously argue on parallel lines and the Sinhalese majority will continue to deprive Tamils of their legitimate rights and place, to the detriment of Srilanka’s future.

    I for my part think the status quo is ideal for the Sinhalese to expand their control on the NE and scatter the Tamil population so they become identity-less. And they will put on a show of duplicitous righteousness as they’re doing now, saying they can do no wrong, while the Tamil identity is snuffed out. Sorry Ramesh, but unless an external force is imposed on Srilanka now, I am not confident the Tamils have anything to look forward to but progressive elimination.

    Thanks for your responses and I wish you much success and happiness.

  243. 301. citizensl | August 14th, 2009 at 7:46 am
    comment 298
    “Errr, how do you spell

    >>Err can you spell-
    Velu P dead in his underwear, along the banks of a insignificant little lagoon.

    ——————–

    Who said I denied those? Only stupids like you can AUTOMATICALLY assume that I deny those.

  244. to comment 303 -ramesh silva

    with regard to the captain ali , so okay the protocol was not followed and it should have been sent to colombo first where it will have to wait in the queau{i can never spell this french word properly. damn the french} and then the customary bribes will have to be paid to clear it and then it will have to be put in lories and sent to the north with the customary bribes to be paid in the checkpoints. so for heavens sake, this was the last week of the war and people were dying of starvation and lack of medicines. if they were sinhalese, protcal be damned, the army and navy would have unloaded in the north and rushed it to the civilians. instead it is sent back and has to be languishing in chennai and then for a month rotting in clombo port.

  245. further to my comment to ramesh silva

    finally it was unloaded last sunday after 3 months in the ports. it was 680 tons of food and medicines. by now those for whom it was intendd must be dead.

  246. Comment #300 – Kumar

    Dear Kumar, I am an Tamilian of Indian origin, but do not live in Tamil Nadu nor am a regular reader of the Tamil Nadu media enough to be influenced by them in any way. I have enough insight into the actual happenings on the island as I interact with a wide variety of Srilankan Tamils and Sinhalese where I live, and have visited Srilanka three times in the last 10 years, most recently in 2006 on business. And I have seen and heard enough of what I’m writing about.

    And I understand more than most people the damage the LTTE has done to Tamils, and the advantage it has given the racist Sinhalese to unleash massive damage, more than in all the earlier decades put together. And their politics of intimiditation. So please do not bracket me with that extremist bunch.

    If you are a Srilankan Tamil of the mainstream variety, you perhaps understand well what I’m saying. If you are a Sinhalese that understands Tamil well enough to contribute to the Vikatan (that would be a first, and worthy of entry into the Guinness record book), you perhaps understand again what I’m saying although you perhaps think this is all right, as most sinhalese seem to think. The sinhalese I meet and know, and the crowd here are remarkably united on the side of the army/budhhist clergy/politicians, more than the Tamils who are of various shades, some even like Karuna/Douglas/Murali that are Tamil by accident.

    Kumar, if you need to make a point of impartiality to the extent of agreeing with chauvinist bloggers here, please address your own conscience on whether what is happening to Tamils on the island is OK.

  247. Comments #306, 307 – Shankar

    Dear Shankar, glad you made these points. Even liberal Sinhalese appear to think their government and army has done the right thing, insisting on protocol when people are dying. I would be very keen to know what protocol they would observe if their own sinhalese were to die like this somewhere in the south, you would expect things to move as you suggested in your post #306. Difference is that the affected are not sinhalese, they are Tamils.

  248. Comment #299 – Hurt moderator

    Dear HM, thanks for your blog. Yes, this was certainly heroic. There are several questions though that you should allow me to pose :

    1. It is human nature to be kind to other life, and any wanton act of cruelty or violence brings out the desire to help as much as possible, in normal human beings. You perhaps had this emotion driving you to help Tamils that you did not know. You would in all likelihood have done this for others, even animals in distress, so there was no specific larger vision you had here.

    2. There were not enough of people like you, else how did more than 3000 people get killed, burnt, murdered openly ? So there was the absence of moderate Sinhalese samaritans, and the presence of organised Sinhalese racists that caused this. You were an exception, not the rule.

    3. You do not say anything in respect of the wholesale massacres in the North and East in the last months, nor about the treatment of innocent Tamils as war criminals in caging them, by the same racist Sinhalese bunch that killed Tamils in 1983, the army/politicians/budhhist priests. I take it you are either satisfied with this, or in support of this.

    My post was to address a larger issue specific to Tamils, and not whether there were a few isolated good samaritans like yourself back in 1983. What I do know is that there are far fewer good Sinhalese samaritans making a difference to the beleaguered Tamils in the North and East now than ever before.

  249. ***303*** Ramesh Silva

    Start of Quote. We have not deliberately destroyed any Tamil property. End of quote.

    Are you kidding.

    You cited the US drone attack that caused civilian casualties. What are you driving at ? What moral standing you have to point fingers at US ?

    Collateral damage is an aberration in US operations. In Sri Lanka it is a way of life. This bitter pill will be difficult for you to swallow.

    If the US had turned a blind eye to the LTTE efforts to acquire anti aircraft missiles, Sri Lankan obsolete aircraft would have been sitting ducks in the sky.

    Are you trying to hoodwink . Better idea would be do anything other than bluff and bluster.

  250. 306. shankar:

    be paid in the checkpoints. so for heavens sake, this was the last week of the war and people were dying of starvation and lack of medicines. if they were sinhalese, protcal be damned, the army and navy would have unloaded in the north and rushed it to the civilians. instead it is sent back

    In one stroke you have damned an entire race, an entire army, an entire navy of ill treatment of another race. There is no shortage of this type of comments in this blog. If you want to curse the Sinhalese, I believe it would be more effective if you do it at a Hindu Shrine than in a blog.

    Let me just ask you, where do you go from here? In all our comments, we try hard not to paint with too wide a brush, be pragmatic, be logical, be sensitive etc. etc. Where is all that? Don’t you think you sound like an Elangovan++?

    Are you so sure that you have all the facts you need? Are you so sure that civilians were dying without food?
    Are you so sure that all that was humanly possible wasn’t done for the well been of the civilians?
    Are you so sure that there was no other food, medicine, etc. made available to these people in spite of items from Captain Ali been returned?
    Are you so sure that had the situation been reversed as you say, things would have been different?

  251. @Nostradamus,
    You cited the US drone attack that caused civilian casualties. What are you driving at ? What moral standing you have to point fingers at US ?

    For one thing USA history is filled with hate;
    1. Black slaves
    2. Vietnam War against Buddhists
    3. Illegal invasion of Iraq (they only had the legal right to invade Afghanistan)

    What we as Sri Lankans have for moral high grounds?
    Well, we never have owned slaves and we have NEVER invaded another country to force down our agenda like the USA terrorists and the rest of the Western terrorist world. Period!

    Tamil Tiger terrorists should learn the real history of Sri Lanka before preaching to the world about rewritten history of Sri Lanka.

  252. “Collateral damage is an aberration in US operations. In Sri Lanka it is a way of life.”

    @Nostradamus
    You sounds like a brown slave who work for the White American terrorists. STOP trying to defend your White masters my dear. LOL

    America has committed more crimes in the history of this world than ANY other country. In fact the CIA have murdered MORE people than the number of people that were killed in the Sri Lanka’s war. Get your real facts out instead of repeating the crap you learn from your White slave masters.

  253. to comment 312-navin

    navin you are asking me a lot of questions. these questions could have been answered accurately if the government allowed independent observers to monitor the war. so please blame the government if i have to use whatever information i had on the internet at that time to get a feel of the situation prevalent. even in the iraq war and even when israel attacks the palestinians there were journalist and reporters and cameramen , who at great risk to themselves were able to give the infomation to the rest of the world. i was rather shocked at the governments refusal to allow these people. even our own local reporters were not allowed. so dont blame me if i have got my facts wrong. please blame the government.

    as for damning an entire race and army and navy, dont be melodramatic. iam only highlighting one incident. obviously there is some donkey giving the orders and these people have to follow it.

  254. navin
    in a recent article by that woman who went to menik farm, a IDP was telling that during the war she was having 1 meal a day while now she is having 3. so there is no doupht that it would have been a horrific period for these people. here again because of the news blackout we can only surmise what really happened.
    i remember once you said you call a spade a spade. so do i. i don’t take sides.

  255. # 313 Thief

    You have stolen the Title Nostradamus from me.

    Generous as I am, if you want it very badly, you can keep it.

    Thievery is a common vice in impoverished and poverty stricken countries. Not a good profession, though.

  256. Comment #314 – dema

    Who removed the rock above you for you to slither out to write this nonsense ? Go back to where you came from, and do not pollute this forum with your uncouth remarks. If you have a point to make, do so else refrain from offensive and meaningless remarks. Why are you racist chauvinists so excited if your comfort zones are questioned ?

  257. To Elangovan -fantastic posts!!! With people like you the truth will prevail!!! We shall OVERCOME!!! Selvarasa Pathmanathan, was leading the PTGTE in the political/diplomatic fronts to seek freedom for Tamil minority in Sri Lanka, until his illegal abduction and extraordinary rendition from Malaysia on august 5. Although the war is over, the Tamils are yet to get rid of their plights. The ground realities do not show that the Sri Lankan government is making any pragmatic effort to offer autonomy for the Tamils, rather it is rejecting Tamils’ genuine demands and further is trying to colonize Tamil homeland with Sinhalese. Instead of accepting Tamils’ legitimate demands for the sake of lasting peace, the Sinhala government is engaged in how it can make Tamils more subservient to them. The Sri Lankan forces killed more than 20,000 Tamils on Mother Day Massacre during the final phase of the war in Vanni. Further, they are now holding more than 300,000 Tamils in Guantanamo-like militarized internment camps with access denied to NGOs, INGOs, local MPs and media. And the situation there is not improving. Recently in one camp which is located near the town of Vavuniya the rain fell heavily for much of the afternoon , sent rivers of mud cascading between tightly packed rows of flimsy shelters, overflowed latrines , which have collapsed, sending human waste spilling all over camp. This flooding raised fear for the safety IDPs. Monsoon rains are expected to begin in little more than a month, and many aid groups worry that the hastily built camps will not survive the inundation. Only three or four hours of rain cause this much chaos, only imagine what a full monsoon can cause. The camps occupy vast tracts of formerly forested land near the northern town of Vavuniya. Because the ground on which many of the camps were built was cleared of trees recently, the soil is soft and porous. It turns into mud almost instantly, making it nearly impossible to get trucks through to deliver food, water and medicine. Life in the camps was already tough, but the rain has made it almost unbearable. The pegs holding down plastic tents have come loose, leaving some families without shelter. Some force to stand for many nights as the water has entered the tents forcing people to remain standing. As you imagine it’s difficult to sleep when you are knee deep in the cold water. Silt has also clogged water treatment plants that are essential for providing drinking water and preventing the spread of waterborne disease. It’s a pure hell, a grim scene of mud, squalor and devastation

  258. 294 navin
    Can someone please explain to me what Navin is saying?

    X says all Tamil are terrorist etc. etc.

    Why? Explain me why?

    pause

    All Tamils are LTTE

    Why? Explain me why?

    pause

    All Tamil Diaspora are LTTE?

    Why? Explain me why?

    pause

    All 300 000 Tamils in concentration camps
    are happy, enjoy life there and approve
    the Sri Lanka Government decision to imprison them !?

    How do you know that?

    What is wrong with these people? This like some broken tape recorder for ever stuck in repeat.
    It seems to me that they well brainwashed by King Mahinda biased media. I always wonder, what if their beloved: their mother, father, their babies and wives were illegally interned there. Would the cold and unfeeling broken tape recorder continue to play this cruel, indifferent and callous racist song?

  259. To 280 Navin
    Because what LTTE did before or during war, should not be used as an excuse to discriminate and imprison 300 000 innocent civilians in.. It should not be used as an excuse to continue the appalling human rights abuses by Sri Lanka Government of Tamil minority. This abuse reached a very low point recently when Sri Lanka Government paraded the doctors it the Sri Lanka Ministry of Defense Sri Lanka Government security force. The detained five physicians who came out of the LTTE former stronghold where they bravely treat thousand of dying patients under heavy Sri Lanka Amy shelling. The doctors were brought to a press conference at the Media Centre for National Security on July 8 to recant their previous eye-witness accounts of the military’s shelling and killing of 100 of Tamil civilians a day. Human Rights and Global Medical Organizations condemned the Sri Lankan government for bringing them to the press conference saying that the whole event was a stage-managed affair by the government to undermine incriminating evidence of the Sri Lankan military’s war crimes. Further, they withdrew their previous claims of casualties and now they read statements produced by the Sri Lankan intelligence wing to show the world that the previous statements when the doctors said the killings in the no-fire zone was wrong, yet the figure given after two months of detention and interrogations by the intelligence wing is correct. This shows how Sri Lanka Government security forces coercing the civilians and civil servants to lie.

  260. 278 navin
    “So please stop these racist utterances now, once and for all– PERIOD, unless you want to be caged up in Jaffna, of course.”

    What !!!!!! Sorry Sir, you are not a slave master to anyone here. And should not threatened to cage anyone to Jaffna or anyplace!!! You are super Lanka Patriot… NOT you are Super RACIST. Should I salute you with a Nazi salute? It seems appropriate!!!

  261. Elangovan your wring is amazing, such a fresh breath !!! Your every word like delicious Bibikkan or Wattilappam, which sweetly melts in my body (my mama’s specialty) and resonates in my mind with a long lasting pleasure and deep appreciation for your kindness, compassion and humanity

  262. To 221. RP
    SINHALA race born to a woman & a lion. Ya Ya it is TRUE.
    nowadays that is called bestiality.

    Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha !!!!! Thanks RP. Big thanks!!! Really, really funny!!!

    That would deflate the overblown ego Sinhalese racists have now. All that triumphalism and all that parading like in Nazi-Germany….. the Sri Lanka won the battle but lost the war..after all, in my view , all those soldiers in shiny boots were marching on the graves of 20 000 innocent civilians they butchered……tiny babies, helpless women, the old and the injured, who were bulldozed while still alive into the mass graves with the dead.. Such horrors !!!!!! Such inhumanity…. The Sri Lanka is the teardrop on conscience of whole “blind” world………….

    =========

    Many of those butchered civilians were victims of the LTTE also. Why are you not talking of LTTE hoorors and tiger inhumanity against their own people. Why is the “TAMIL” world of yours “blind,deaf and dumb” about this? Is nothing prick the so Tamil “conscience”?………………..DBSJ

  263. 316. shankar:

    Western media are all partial to western countries. CNN, BBC, Al Jazera, you name it, they all bark for uncle Sam. In fact, both uncle Sam, and western media bark for the same bunch of neo-conservatives. Hence Americans, allowing western media into their war zones is nothing different from Sri Lankan government allowing SLRC into Sri Lanka’s war zone.

    Has this western media ever condemned US firing hell-fire misses into Pakistani, territory? Whenever, such an incident kills a whole bunch of people, they are all insurgents and terrorists that are killed. On the quantity, when the same is done by SLAF, western media will quote some LTTE spokesperson and say so many civilians got killed. Do you expect the government to allow such media into its war zone?

    There is absolutely no difference in the way GOSL fought its war and the way the Americans are fighting their wars. Western media are not there in those theaters of war to let the world know what’s really going on. Instead, they are there to let the world know what the west wants them to know. Hence the west asking GOSL to allow free media into its war zone is akin to “Big crabs asking little ones to walk straight”.

    In your statement you have said that the GOSL would have cared for the civilians much better had they been Sinhalese. This is the same racist presumption that underlies most if not all mediocre muck in this blog. If people start to ascribe racism to everything that goes wrong, from Captain Ali to the way IDPs are treated then its not possible for Sinhalese and Tamils to live together any more. The whole purpose of my blogging here is to show that not everything arise out of racism.

    I shall repeat again, Captain Ali drama was a political stunt for both Diaspora and GOSL. Diaspora acted arrogantly and government replied in similar language. For both parties it was their pride at stake and the whole incident had nothing to do with racism. I’m not against you calling a spade a spade but in this case you are very much mistaken.

    What is your take on government agents robbing the monies given to those Sinhalese farmers who lost their harvest due to LTTE closing Mavil Aru? Now was that racism? When Tamil government agents working in IDP camps rob what’s given to IDP s by the government, where is racism in that?

    Racism is a convenient scape goat for lot of things. I don’t think I need to lecture you on how people have used it in the past and what we have inherited today as a result. So think, who is been melodramatic here?

  264. to comment 325 navin

    you say that in my statement i said that the GOSL would have cared for the civilians much better if they were sinhalese.you also say it is a racist presumption of mine.
    i have looked at my statement again which says ” protocol be damned , if they were sinhalese, the army and navy would have unloaded it in the north and rushed it to the civilians”.
    let us say the tigers had surrounded and attacking sinhalese in the east who are beleaguered without food and medicines. a ship from the sinhalese diaspora is sent to trincomalee, now the same official who said you have not followed the protocol, which is to go to the customs in colombo port and sent it back, will he make that same order. that is the question i asked. you and elangovan twist and turn it to suit your own selves. i always try to imagine in my mind if i was a sinhalese how would i feel, because that is the way to see things from the other guys perspective. sometimes it goes against the sinhalese, what i say. you have to take critism as well as praise in the same spirit. everytime someone mentions the word sinhalese, or tamil on this blog and is going to be labelled a racist, then people will start becoming hypersensitive and start avoiding using these ethnic terms, when everything revolving around 2 ethnic groups. you have to be more responsible before you make allegations of racism.

    as for your contention about the western media, there might be some truth in that, but i find it difficult to believe that all will compromise there integrity and reputation like that. what about the eastern media then. why was indian reporters not allowed.what about our own reporters. i used to like the island because i felt they were the closest to some unbiased reporting. i never read the leader. but lakbima is okay. times is also not bad. lake house can be thrown into the beira lake.

  265. frther to my earlier comment can people stop talking about this captain ali in future. it is insignificant in the overall scheme of thing. someone always comes on this blog and attacks the diaspora for sending the captain ali like it was a weapons shipment, and i have to set the record straight. everyone must be sick of this wreched ship by now, and can we now bury that.

  266. # 325 Navin

    Are you the judge, jury and all in one to say western media is barking for uncle Sam. What do you know about western media.

    Do you have access to Fox News and C span. Have you ever seen congressional hearings telecast. The CNN asian version that you see is not the mainland CNN.

    After reading your comment I was able to access the western print media reporting on hell fire missile incidents within 5 minutes. It is available on public domain.

    If you do not know how to access this information, I will teach you how to do this.

    It is obvious that you don’t know anything at all about about the independence of western media. Your ignorance is plainly visible. You are in unfamiliar terrain.

    Ignorance is bliss. Readers familiar with media criticism of uncle Sam will know your ignorance.

    Therefore, western media barking for uncle Sam is a fiction. Your croaking like a frog in a well is a fact.

  267. vanakkam. i have reached this blog after accessing THE HINDU news paper website where i went to look for speeches reported of the PM and Chief Jutsice of India on the occasion of national meet of the chief Minsiters and Chief Justices of various High Courts of in the states of Uniuon of India. I had stopped reading this news paper for its anti Eezham stand and its known proximity to the Singaless power centre like Raajapakshe. I have terminated my subscription to this news paper which hated Tamil identity. Evenso in todays access to gthis news paper i had found listed topics for access included the story of thiru.KP’s prograames for the future of LTTE and eezhamite tamils. another topic was how KP was arresetd and Iam here! I have read earlier thiru.dbs jeyaraj. I have read some comments ebwlo especillay those opposed to libertaion of Thamzih eezham. This cause has been dear to me right from my student’s ( coolegiate) days in the 60s of alst centiury and sinec then i have been follwing the course of struggle of my ethnic kinsmen in the island of ceyleom then and Sri lanka. Thanks to the perfidy of politicians of tamil naadu who controls the masses of tamil naadu like the CM thiru.MK and AIADMK’s selvi.JJ. and of Tmt. Sonia headed Congress which leads the coalition government at the center . from the e bginning of 2009 Colombo found congenial situation to terminate LTTE and get the whole family of the geratest of all time tamil fighter maavran Thiru.Velupilai Pirabhakaran. NO TAMIL WORTH THE NAME WILL AGRRE FOR THIS CRUEL END TO HIM AND THE TEAM HE WAS HEADING COMMITTED TO THE CUASE OF SEPARATE SOVEREIGN THAMIZ EEZHAM. We tamils in Tn supporte the cause for we believe ONLY in sosverign THAMIZH EEZHAM Tamil identity would be preserved and tamil language grow and flourish in all walks of life. In Tamil naadu we are alreday losing our identity and language owing to historical.poltitical, conomic and social reasons. Leaders like the CM thiru.MK have betrayed us and deviated far away from ethnic commitments. Next generation of his family like his sons, daughter, grandbhcihildren are totally differnet with so much of wealtrh amssed by them To thme the DMk party is simply a means to enjoy power and make. An average tamilina is NOT ethnic conscious. He is money and life’s material needs conscious. Therefore our noly hipe was Thamizh Eezham and today there is abig question mark. I salute all those of my ethnic kinsmen who have suffered in all possible ways and laid won their lives . I have stopepd going to temples, take part ion feast, stopped reading hostile and anti tamil reporting by commitment as it was the case with THE HINDU, THE WEEK, INDIA TODAY and Tv channels like NDTV, etc. i will continue to support the eezhamite kinsmen. On 14th Aug there was small occasion of remembrance of Snejolai maasacre of tamil school girls in 2007 in areil bombing by SL air force raid. A small band of lawyers had assembled to remember the scarifice of the children. we slaute all such sacrifices. I will continue to access ur biog and read besides Puthibnam and tamilnet and occasionally tamilnation.

  268. to comment 328 Nostradamus
    You’ve got that right, Nostradamus, for Navin all western media is biased. And it is obvious for me too that Navin knows nothing about the independence of western media. Also Navin immediately becomes blind, deaf and dumb when it comes to suffering of 300 000 human beings in his own country…. I always wonder, what happened to the Sri Lanka, the supremely buddhist nation and all that level of maithriya of the compassion and human concern?

  269. 328. Nostradamus:

    Ignorance is bliss. Readers familiar with media criticism of uncle Sam will know your ignorance.

    I fully agree with you on this.

    Therefore, western media barking for uncle Sam is a fiction.

    For the nave, YES.

    Your croaking like a frog in a well is a fact.

    Its better to croak like a frog than to insult others as a human.

  270. to comment 329-padmanaaaban

    machan, fellow tamil

    you say that we tamils in tamilnadu believe only in sovereign tamil eelam. could you please tell me why you tamils in tamilnadu dont believe in sovereign tamil tamilnadu first. once you get a seperate nation for tamilnadu it will be easier for us to get eelam dont you think. after all you are 65 million and we are only 4 million. the tail cant wag the dog. why is the dog not barking. were you waiting for leadership to be provided by prabhaharan. why you cant find anyone to lead the struggle from 65 million.

  271. 329. P.Padmanaaabhan
    Well said, P.Padmanaaabhan , your post is fabulous and easy to understand, because it’s real, and raw. Anyway, I can feel your pain bro, 70 millions of us do! As for THE HINDU news paper I drop it a while ago.. into the beira lake:-) The Hindu newspapers and others do not deserve to be called “Hindu” It should be called the “Sinhalese” or better yet the “propaganda wing of defence.lk” Anyway , the racist Sri Lankan government’s failure to deliver justice for serious human rights violations over the past 60 years has trapped the country in a vicious cycle of abuse and impunity. One such deplorable example, your mentioned, is Snejolai massacre of Tamil school girls in 2007 by Sri Lanka air force aerial bombardment. I remember the immeasurable sacrifice of those small Hindu children too every year in the Temple. Today the serious human rights violations, including enforced disappearances, killings, torture and rape are continuing with renewed vigor, even though the war over. 300,000 innocent Tamil civilians remain interned without trial in so called “welfare centers” that are concentration camps in all but name. Contrary to international law there is no freedom of movement of the displaced and there is not enough water, food and sanitation. Recently, due heavy rains, flimsy latrines overflowed and collapsed, sending human waste spilling all over the camp. Making the life in the camps, which is tough now, almost unbearable.. Monsoon is expected soon… How can Sri Lanka nation sleep at night, when it has such a festering sore, and a deep wound in its soul? Well, let’s examine the Sri Lanka, as “supremely buddhist nation” and capture its’ ethno-religious-political landscape. A history of peaceful cohabitation marred by suspicions, tensions and blood letting. The unquestioning support of the clergy and devotees for the new ‘king’ Mahinda of the Sinhala-Buddhist race. Buddhism is the most peaceful religion where the teachings condone loving kindness and cohabitation with all living beings. However in actuality Sri Lanka Buddhist is ruthlessly oppressing the Tamil minority with complete disregard to their human rights. The Mahinda racist government reminds me a lunatic asylum where ruthless baby killers in white long coats telling one thing” piece loving patriots” etc… etc… but do the exact opposite. The bloody red color scarf that snakes around Sri Lanka president Mahinda neck like the river of innocent blood dripping daily down to become a flood of the thousands, who have been slaughtered in the name of Sinhala-Buddhist sovereignty. Yet these apparent contradictions between religion and practice are accepted and no one speaks or comments on these happenings,

  272. vanakkam. the following news may be of interest to the participant in the discussion here on Eezham:”‘Unarmed VCK men to fight for Eelam’ “-CHENNAI: Though Viduthalai Chiruthaigal Katchi (VCK) is a part of the DMK-led alliance, the party will not compromise its ideology on the Eelam Tamils issue, said VCK president Thol Thirumavalavan here on Monday.

    “Unarmed tigers of VCK from Tamil Nadu will continue their struggle for Tamil Eelam,” he said to a rousing applause of the thousands of party cadre who gathered for ‘Yelum Tamil Eelam’ conference organised on his 48th birthday which was being observed as ‘Tamil Eluchi Naal’ (Tamil uprising day).

    Struggle against caste oppression and fight for the rights of global Tamils are the two policies VCK stands for, he said reiterating that the conference was a proof of their commitment to the two causes.

    Driving home the point that his demand for a white paper on Indian government’s support to Sri Lanka during the ethnic war was not being fulfilled, he asked as to how the party’s stand on Eelam Tamils issue could be called anti-national?

    “We are committed to the Indian sovereignty and integrity,” he said adding that VCK would not be a mute spectator when innocent Tamils were being killed.

    Referring to a series of self-immolations in the State which started with one Muthukumar of Kolathur, whom he defined as a “black tiger” Thirumavalavan said that only the VCK cadre sacrificed their lives for the Tamil cause, while other parties were either reluctant or scared to even speak for the suffering Tamils brethren of Sri Lanka.

    Separate Eelam was the only safeguard for the Tamils, he underpinned and said, “Prabhakaran will return and continue the war.”

    the meeting was held in the face of crack down on Eezham supporters using thiru.VP posters in [pictuer or support to LTTE.

    It will be of further interest here that thiru.Pazha Nedumaaran too ahs comw dwon ehavily on thiru.MK for the latdest steps to cur the activities pro LTTE supporters in TN. thus thiru.Pazha.nedumaarnan has said : “சென்னை, ஆக.18- விடுதலைப் புலிகளின் ஆதரவாளர்களை மிரட்டல்கள் மூலம் ஒடுக்கிவிட முடியாது என்று இலங்கைத் தமிழர் பாதுகாப்பு இயக்கத்தின் ஒருங்கிணைப்பாளர் பழ.நெடுமாறன் கூறியுள்ளார்.

    இதுகுறித்து அவர் விடுத்துள்ள அறிக்கையில் கூறியிருப்பதாவது:

    தடை செய்யப்பட்ட இயக்கங்களை ஆதரித்துப் பேசுவது தண்டனைக்குரியக் குற்றமாகும். அவ்வாறு செய்பவர்கள் மீது சட்டப்படி கடுமையான நடவடிக்கை எடுக்கப்படும் என்று தமிழக அரசின் தலைமைச் செயலாளர் பத்திரிகை விளம்பரம் வாயிலாக எச்சரித்துள்ளார்.

    உச்ச நீதிமன்றம், சென்னை உயர் நீதிமன்றம், பொடா மறு ஆய்வுக் குழு ஆகியவை தடை செய்யப்பட்ட இயக்கத்திற்கு ஆதரவாகப் பேசுவது குற்றமல்ல என கடந்த 2004-ஆம் ஆண்டில் மிக தெளிவாகவும் விளக்கமாகவும் தீர்ப்புகள் வழங்கியுள்ளன.

    அந்த தீர்ப்புகளின் அடிப்படையில்தான் விடுதலைப் புலிகளை ஆதரித்துப் பேசியதாக பொடா சட்டத்தின் கீழ் குற்றம் சாட்டப்பட்டு சிறையில் அடைக்கப்பட்ட நானும் வைகோவும் உட்பட பலர் விடுதலை செய்யப்பட்டோம்.

    நாட்டின் மிக உயர்ந்த நீதிமன்றங்கள் அளித்த இந்த தீர்ப்புகளைக் கொஞ்சமும் மதியாத வகையில் தமிழக அரசின் தலைமைச் செயலாளர் விளம்பரம் வெளியிட்டிருப்பதை நான் வன்மையாகக் கண்டிக்கிறேன்.

    ஏற்கெனவே 2009-ஆம் ஆண்டு பிப்ரவரி மாதம் 4-ஆம் தேதி இலங்கைத் தமிழர் பாதுகாப்பு இயக்கத்தின் சார்பில் தமிழ்நாட்டில் நாங்கள் நடத்தவிருந்த முழு அடைப்புப் போராட்டம் சட்ட விரோதமானது என இதே தலைமைச் செயலாளர் எங்களை எச்சரித்து கடிதம் அனுப்பினார்.

    ஆனால் முழு கடையடைப்பு நடத்துவது சட்ட விரோதமானது அல்ல என்று 3-2-09 அன்று உச்ச நீதிமன்றம் அளித்தத் தீர்ப்பைக் கூட மதியாத தன்மையில் தமிழக அரசின் தலைமைச் செயலாளர் நடந்துக் கொண்டது கடும் கண்டனத்திற்கு உள்ளானது.

    நீதிமன்றத் தீர்ப்புகளை அவமதிக்கும் வகையிலும் அரசியல் கட்சிகளையும் ஊடகங்களையும் மிரட்டுவதற்கும் தலைமைச் செயலாளரை முதல்வர் பயன்படுத்துவதை வன்மையாகக் கண்டிக்கிறேன்.

    ஈழத் தமிழர் பிரச்னை சுமூகமாக தீர்ந்துவிட்டது என்று சில நாட்களுக்கு முன்னால் கூறிய முதல்வர் இப்போது முகாம்களில் உள்ள ஈழத் தமிழர்களை விடுவிக்க மத்திய அரசு தலையிட வேண்டுமென்று கடிதம் எழுதுகிறார். இப்படி முன்னுக்குப் பின் முரணாகச் செயல்படுவது அவரது வழக்கமாகி விட்டது.

    ஈழத் தமிழர்களுக்கு ஆதரவாக செயல்படுபவர்களை மிரட்டல்கள் மூலம் ஒடுக்கிவிட முயல்வது ஒருபோதும் வெற்றி பெறாது.

    இவ்வாறு தனது அறிக்கையில் நெடுமாறன் தெரிவித்துள்ளார்.”

  273. with regard to teh commen st in posting no.333 by thiru.Shankar, i will certainly reply u in some length as to why Tamil naadu MUST not be and can not be seeking to be sovereign Tamil state. Thank u very much thiru.Shankar for ur posture adverted above . we will meet again Sir.

  274. #333 — sharkar,

    why the dog to bark is

    1) In tamil nadu only tamil is used no other language can do any business here
    2) the same tamil is not getting maimed any other part of india. Not like MR speech – Unga —— luku — like that.

    The above two conditions are NOT in place in SL is the reason we always want ellam to form …

  275. #333 — sharkar,

    why the dog not barking is

    1) In tamil nadu only tamil is used no other language can do any business here
    2) the same tamil is not getting maimed any other part of india. Not like MR speech – Unga —— luku — like that.

    The above two conditions are NOT in place in SL is the reason we always want ellam to form …

  276. however guys dont worry and confuse now.. it is my sincere request …
    the huge ( more that 500 trillion ?) derivative bubble is breaking many things in this world. now . in that line it brooked LTTE .With in very short span ( 5 years i guess) it will break SL too. Until if Tamils maintain their stand for ellam then surely they will get

  277. I think, 300 000 Hindu Tamils who are illegally incarcerated in Vavuniya and other camps, need our help. Does any have any suggestion, how it could be done? Of course it will help Sri Lanka image immensely. We sorely need tourism and investment to rebuild, and most hoteliers would tell you that the western tourists are the big spenders. But the west goes to great lengths to torpedo Sri Lanka attempt to lure their travelers here (the recent travel warning by the U.S. with a tongue in cheek statement about the danger of tourists being arrested is an example). The detention of the IDPs is a festering sore throwing pus all over the tourist board’s ’small miracle’ ad campaign for Sri Lanka, in much the same way that Guantanamo continues to sully America’s reputation abroad. We will be judged by future generations for what we do today, and I fear they will not be kind to us. History is watching, and so is the world. So let’s take a chance and do the right thing. We heed to open the gates and free 300 000 innocent victims

    Why only “Hindu” Tamils? What about Catholic and Protestant Tamils?…………DBSJ

  278. 340. sadhic |
    Yes, Sadhic , with King Mahinda great talent to annihilate and wipe out anything decent and worthy in Sri Lanka, the country is destine to become a failed state on a par with Zimbabwe and Myanmar
    193. sadhic
    You mentioned “60000 children in IDP with horrible ware scenes memories.” Yep, it’s absolute tragedy, so many children in such appalling situation… It’s called collective punishment. The logic is bizarre but simple. “All Tamils are terrorists regardless of the age”. In Sri Lanka the majority community has never taken responsibility for its unfortunate behavior towards the minorities. Thus if one begins to ask in what kind of society does a Government intentionally imprison such a staggering number of its own citizens, any answer must include the proposition that in such a society the majority community does not subscribe to the notion of collective responsibility.

  279. comment 338-sadhic

    if language rights is the problem here why you are not asking the tamils to fight for equality of language. then the sinhalese and the rest of the world might consider it as a reasonable request and do something. why seperation. if a patient is in hospital with a fracture of his leg and you were the doctor will you recommend amputation. probably you will. but if it was your own leg what eh.

  280. to comment 341-mawatha

    1. at least 1million tamils must march from tamilnadu to new delhi.
    2. tamils in all other countries must protest in front of the parliaments. huge billbords with photographs of the tents flooded wit water must be prominently displayed.
    3. protests must go on and on in unceasing waves until IDP’s are all released.

    unfortunately these are not being done because the tamil leaders are more interested in resurrecting the ltte and eelam than the IDP’s.

  281. 329. P.Padmanaaabhan

    Every news paper now a days publish partial truth which is false to some and truth to some. it is balanced writing or impartial journalism from the writers point of view.

    You are a fellow who likes to eat only sweets.

    There are thousands of web sites exclusively for protracted Tamil appetite . Many dailies , weeklies additional. Read all.

    Visit http://www.tamilnet.tv also once in a while to avoid indigestion and constipation.

    Prabhakaran wish you the best from unknown place.

  282. Comment 344 -shakar,

    I hope u normal. Pls understand that the separation issue starts in SL -only after many discrimination like singhala only act etc

    You will never and ever see a sepration issue from Tamilnadu raised by public as long as Tamil language policy inplace …

    What else — if Gosl tried to apply only Tamil language policy in Tamil dominated area then they will see the whole separation issue getting disseminated in thin air. Further if you start implementing Tamil only policy then you will end up clearly what the devolution powers means i wonder why whole world or at least Gosl and Tamils there do not understand this…

  283. to thiru. mawatha silva in posting.334.

    vaNakkam Silva. ur name is indicative of a sinhalese. right?

    I recall a suave block mate in my hostel during my collegiate days in the then Madras. My principal’s wife was a Sinhalese woman. My Pricnipal was a tamil chrisitian. The name of my block mate was one thiru.Somaratne. We were very good friends. Another college time room mate was one thiru.Hasan Ali from Colombo and at prsent a Congress MLA in Tn and very close personal friedn to the Honble President Raajpakshe . Currnelty , till a few months ago the local branch office manager of SRI LANKAN airways was a very pretty Sinhalese lady ( single ) and she lived just an apartment right above mine in this bulidinsg where my family lives in this town in western Tamil Naadu. I was always fond of her and her family. I HAVE NO HATRED FOR SINHALESE AS FELLOW HUMANS. But politics of post colonial era did not go the way it ought to have gone in a polity of people of bilingual history, two religious identities and both having had strong roots in the oiverhanging Indian sub continent. In my view , given the suffreings of the tamils in the past 50 or more years, they do deserve live separately and independently in their historical areas of the island.
    One illustrative experience of mine is that a few yeras back BBC television telecast a programme on sufferings of women in war zones. When the focus in gthe programme came to war in Northern Tamil Porvince , it was shown that young girls in jaffana NOT wearing their traditionl mark on their forehead and explained that the absence of the forehead mark was intentional to avoid quick detection by the men of ocoupation afrmy (SLA). The comments wer also said that the tamil famileis with yougn women were required NOT latch up their entry door to facilitate the SLA men to enter and exit in the night after getting satiated of their carnal desire. In the years that have followed the helpless tamils in the
    war theatres of Thamizh Eezham part of the island have become numb to such cruelties. How canany one with normal feelings force the eezhamite tamils to share the same poltiy in subjucation?

    Thank u Sinvaa for ur appreciation and i will be soon back with reply to thiru.Shankar for his commenst if postings 333 and 337.

  284. 345. Shankar
    machan, I’ve read all your posts on the two threads about KP, sorry it took a bit of time to intake it all but i have to admit – you are the human library- vast amount of information intervened with incalculable quantity of well chosen details, statistics and sprinkled on the top some dry humor also unexpected treasure-pearls of wisdom here and there.. You’re good and prolific Blogger. Hats off to you… My question was how can we help 300,000 innocent civilians in concentration camps, not ” how to revive the ltte, eelam.. or should Tamils have a separate state or not… By the way, politics is a personal matter; it’s only between me and my ballot box :-) So could you enlighten me once more how can we help the unfortunate souls, who still languishing in the death traps up-country? May I add another question: the Sri Lanka, the supremely buddhist nation, the apparent contradictions between religion and practice, why so many have been slaughtered in the name of Sinhala-Buddhist sovereignty?

  285. to comment 349-mawatha

    mawatha machan,

    my solution is still same as in my comment 345. i said carry billboards of pictures of IDP camps. not tiger flags. those must be strictly prohibited. they ruin the whole purpose of a demonstration. just imagine waving the picture of idi amin to save starving people in africa. unfortunately the goons will come with the flags and there might be a right royal fight instead of a protest march.

  286. comment 347-sadhic

    that what iam saying sadhic, fight for the language rights and devolution. if you havea problem fight to get rid of it. that is normal isnt it. why fight for seperation.

    by the way i stopped shaking a long time ago.

  287. 348. P.Padmanaaabhan

    Vanakkam thiru P.Padmanaaabhan I’m a Tamil, but my pen name is ” mawatha silva” which is Sinhalese. Many bloggers on this thread and many others, who have Tamil names, are Sinhalese and the opposite is true. Read the content of the post and then decide for your-self is he a friend to Tamilian speaking people or not? Thiru P.Padmanaaabhan, why do you thing Tamil Nadu government erased the word ‘Eezham’ from the phrase ‘Ezhum Thamizh Eezham’?

  288. 348. P.Padmanaaabhan
    Vanakkam thiru P.Padmanaaabhan I’m a Tamil, but my pen name is ” mawatha silva” which is Sinhalese. Many bloggers on this thread and many others, who have the Tamil names, are Sinhalese and the opposite is true. Read the content of the post and then decide for your self is he a friend to Tamilian speaking people or not? Thiru P.Padmanaaabhan why do you thing Tamil Nadu government erased the word ‘Eezham’ from the phrase ‘Ezhum Thamizh Eezham’?

  289. Thank God the LTTE has been Buthered.The SriLankan Forces should have done this a few years ago.The only thing that Prabakaran wanted was to make a lot of money and hold power,till the end the LTTE did not do anything for the Tamil population in SriLanka m he only swindled them.
    With the arrest of KP all praise should go to the Defence Forces and the President of SriLanka.

  290. Various comments – Mawatha Silva

    Dear Mawatha Silva, you are clearly too much sympathetic and understanding of the plight of Tamils to be a sinhalese, and I do not detect any racism or denial behaviour in you that is a must for all sinhalese. Why then are you using a sinhalese name ? You did mention some sweets that the sinhalese feed on, bibikan and watilapam, but perhaps you know their ways and practices.

    If you are a sinhalese, you are one out of 14 million that is actually sane and civilised. Please fly the colors of your race. Thanks for your complimentary remarks on my posts.

  291. Comment $348 – Padmanaabhan

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    YOU CANNOT USE THIS FORUM TO BRAZENLY INCITE VIOLENCE AGAINST SPECIFIC TARGETS. YOU ARE MOST WELCOME TO POST SUCH COMMENTS IN TIGER AND PRO -TIGER WEBSITES…………….DBSJ

  292. Dear Elangovan, thanks a lot for kind reply, the use of pen name “Mawatha Silva” started as joke ,then , unfortunately , it’s just stuck like annoying shoe gum. As you can you gather, i do more blogging besides this one, timesonline in uk, the economist, other various worthy , high-quality blog spots. i noticed that many sinhalese Racists there, who liberally spewed despicable racists’ venom, are using Tamil names ?!?!?! So i chose this sinhalese name “Mawatha Silva” as a pen name to prick and deflate the over blown sinhalese superiority complex of new colonial slave masters in Sri Lanka. You could not imagine the of amount of threats.. bodily harm.. ” white vans abductions”…. etc, etc..i received. And many of those vile threats come from bloggers with Tamil names!!! Dear Elangovan, you and I can guess.. they are not TAMILs. Thanks a lot for bringing the pen name issue to my attention. I will considered your suggestion seriously and alter this mistake as the sensibilities of my Dear and Precious Tamils are important to me :-)

  293. Comment #357 – M. Silva

    Dear Friend, thanks for your clarifying post. I take it you live inside the island, is this so ? Please do not take my note to be a suggestion to change your nom de plume, a lot of sensible bloggers clearly realised the nature of your name. It is good to know you are one of us. That is more important than the name you assume, this is not a MISTAKE at all.

    You have some very interesting and valid observations. What is your opinion on the utterances of the lankan foreign secretary that the total Tamil population in the North and East is 1million of which 0.3million are in camps, so no devolution is needed ? And that more Tamils have voluntary relocated to sinhalese areas so they are voting against devolution ?

    My view is that the North and East had for some decades become sla armed colonies which made life and livelihood unsustainable for Tamils, who in the quest for civilian life moved to the areas of their tormentors, the sinhalese.

    I do not know if these Tamils living in the sinhalese areas are treated as human beings and allowed to live their own life. Or do they have to speak in the local lingo and conceal their Tamil identity in public ?

    I would value your comments on the realities of everyday life for Tamils in the sinhalese parts of the island.

  294. Comment #346 – Excited

    Due entirely to your poor English, poor expression, and link to a racist website, it is clear you a sinhalese, you have nothing of value to contribute that any of us can read.

    Anyone that is interested in the welfare of the Tamil people has no time for the likes of you or other low sinhalese lives. You racists should stay where you belong and not write in such fora.

  295. Below are the callous and coldhearted remarks said by Sri Lanka regarding the future of minority Tamils. “ If you look at the history of war crimes there isn’t one instance where a winner of a war has been tried before a Tribunal. They have always been set up for losers.” said Sri Lanka’s foreign secretary and permanent representative to the UN, Palitha Kohona. He also negated any political solutions to the Tamil national question. “There is this thinking that all our problems can be solved by applying a political solution. I fail to see the logic behind this,” he said. The future for the minority Tamil is bleak, indeed.
    355. Elangovan |
    Would be kind to answer the questions I ask in 341. mawatha silva post . No one seems to know the answer to it he. Also, please, do not worry about 356 and continue to post. I think, you have immense ability for sharp and concise answers and your talent is sorely needed

  296. @ 189. Elangovan and his other posts:

    It is neither Hindi/Punjabi spoken who cause trouble to Tamil prosperity. It is the Tamils itself. Srilankan political history , militancy and assassinations have proved that.

    In India, It was his highness Kalaignar Karunanidhi who blocked Mooppanar from being the PM of India when the opportunity came. Then Dev Goda got the chance.

    It was Dravidian politicians who led the tirade against Hindi . Even today that waves exists.

    Come out of your nutshell.

  297. comment 358-elangovan

    i can answer that queston for you. tamils have no problem living with sinhalese in the sinhalese areas. ask padmanaaban what does he think of the sinhalese living on the top floor, then you can get an idea of what type of people they are. they are not the monsters that they are made out to be. language of course is a problem. when you go to a government dept everything is in sinhala thanks to the idiotic sinhala only policy of SWRD bandaranayaka in 1956. due to this the sinhalese are also strugling to converse in english, and tamils struggle to converse in sinhala. the language issue is a real mess. it is high time the government made english and tamil as official languages and had a facility for children to learn these if they wish at schools.

  298. with regard to my earlier comment i also hope that the government also has a facility whereby tamil children can also learn sinhalese at schools. it should not be forced but a choice at the expense of some other subject. i would have gladly got rid of some of the crap i was learning and gone for the sinhalese class, and it would have been very useful now, compared to other things i would have learnt , which i dont even now remember.

  299. Comment #360 – M.Silva

    Dear Friend, I have re-read post 341. I had no response then, but will offer my thoughts now. In short, I think the sinhalese government wants it all, i.e. subjugation of the Tamils, and stimulation of the economy. This is the only model that they understand, economic advancement of the sinhalese while marginalising the Tamils. Having the opportunity to cage a quarter of the NE Tamil population is a godsend for the sinhalese, and they will not lose this in the foreseeable future.

    I think there is bound to be some tinkering around the edges, with a whitewash of the human rights image, now that the need to kidnap individual Tamils is gone (a whole area is kidnapped and behind bars), with a view to appearing attractive. Already you see reports that ME travellers are coming to the island in greater numbers.

    So, I don’t think linking the image problem of the sinhalese to the freeing and equalisation of the Tamils is going to work. This may sound strange, but a good opportunity to do this could well come from the Tamils that are entrenched within the sinhalese system, some of them renegades like Karuna, Murali and Douglas. They have the audience, and the ability to speak and be heard. Other Tamils, especially in the NE have no voice and no existence.

    That the island is going to be scorned by Westerners is a fact, for some time to come. They more than others are very sharp in noticing human rights abuses and doublespeak, which the sinhalese are full of and obviously so. However, political post-9/11 considerations will mute anything they want to do for the Tamils. So, the best starting bet is to test whether the Tamil renegades and the so called ‘southern Tamils’ are really conscience keepers for the Tamil population in distress. They should be having relatives etc. up north, so why wouldn’t they ?

    And believe me, should these ‘southern Tamils’ come under the sinhalese hammer, it would be in the public domain. The sinhalese cannot affort another black July (1983), that may well be the tipping point for outside (perhaps UN) intervention. As it stands there is very little difference between the situation in E.Timor and NE lanka, when the UN intervened after decades of Indonesian brutality. They are not intervening now due to the involvement of China/India/other selfish nations, and because the West is not sufficiently inflamed about the sinhalese murderous behaviour since that is behind the scenes and dressed up as millitary action against the LTTE.

    Should there be another 1983 as a result of the ‘southern Tamils’ vocalising their outrage, there won’t be anything stopping the involvement of the West. Remember, Norway and Canada (and even India) opened their doors to Tamils as a result of the sinhalese brutalities in 1983.

    The ‘southern Tamils’ have less to lose and a lot to gain for their fellow Tamils now.

  300. Comment #361 – Pramod

    I fail to see the logic or direction in your comment. So what if there as a movement against Hindi ? It was opposed as the attempt to impose it was done brazenly, and unthinkingly. Would you learn Tamil if forced to ? Use your brain if you have one. The Dravidian politicians for once came together to oppose this nonsense, but if you have any ability to read and retain, you’ll know that the opposition to Hindi came from everywhere but the cowbelt where they speak only that. South India and West Bengal were up in arms, but only the Tamil politicians thought of vocalising it resulting in the changes that now make India continue existing.

    As for the internecine tendencies amongst the Tamils, while that is true and they’ve not acted as a cohesive unit against outside threats, be it the sinhalese or the hindi/punjabi elements, that is no reason to park all blame on their doorstep. The Tamils have suffered from not being a sovereign nation anywhere, so in the eyes of the international community, are always seen as reacting though they are subjected to unjust demands.

    The less said about Karunanidhi the better, but Moopanar being PM would have done nothing for the Tamils. Indian Tamil politicians lost principle a long time back, and are true representatives only of themselves and their families.

  301. Comment #362 – Shankar

    Thanks Shankar for your response and other posts. Would it not be conveivable that the behaviour of the sinhalese living in Mr. Padmanaabhan’s building would be really low key ? That is living in a Tamil area where any arrogance will backfire.

    However, I was interested to know on what terms Tamils live in peace in the sinhalese areas. Do they have to speak in sinhalese whenever they are outside their home ? Do they need to conceal their Tamil identity unless they are asked ? Do they need to bribe the police, etc. and pay donations to the local goons/mafia ?

    And please could you confirm my other point that Tamils have migrated to the south of the island to avoid being brutalised by the army, which has with the politicians’ blessing turned the NE into a free range army camp ? Is civilian life (as we know it) even possible in Jaffna, Batticaloa, Trincomalee and other towns in the NE where Tamils can lead as normal a life as any sinhalese in their cities ?

  302. vaNakkam naNbarkaLE! anbu Shakar Since i posted first in no.329 above on 17th August at 04:59 PM, so much has been written here and I am glad to read thiru.Elangovan above. This night i ahs some time to print few words and this is not to evade my commitment to Shankar in regard to why the tamils in tamil naadu must not or can not ask for sovereign status to them instead of egging their kinsmen in Thamizh Eezham which the Sinhalese has south to destory in letter and spirit, that is by name in physical form and the humans who supprot and fight for the said cause of soeverign Thamizh Eezham. I owe my explanation in some details to thiru.Shankar. I began drafting and stopepd . In the 24 hrs i could not resume. My social and profesisonal commtiment r varied and I would surely present my mind on the two issues raised by thiru.Shankar. BUT I NEEED MORE TIME TO PRESENT MY METHODICAL AND ANALYTICAL REPLY TO thirus.Shankar. I have just finsisehd my supper this night and durign my short relaxing b efore the TV, a channel i just cliked by random showed the cine musical genius thiru.ILAYARAAJA rendering in his own voice a melody which goes by words “உலகம் இப்போ எங்கோ போகுது…எனக்கு இந்த அன்னை பூமி போதும் ! எனக்கு இந்த நாடு போதும்” pcitorial depiction of his song that accompanied on Tv monitor included temple scenes showing his offering worhsip ti Brahnmin priest performing வழிபாடு in sanskrit to which I am opposed and i have done so much in the last 30 years to promote tamila s language fo worship in temples in TN. But when compaerd to thiru.ILAYRAAJA’s sweep and reach I am no where. from an untouchabl in a dingy village in caste conscious souther district of Tn the musical genius has risen in wealth and fame all due to the political and economic milieu of INDIA in which TN is a part. Whereas even thiru A.R.Rahman ( by desistign felcitations due to misery being undergone by the Eezhamite tamils ) and the agri sceintist Dr.Swaminathan (by declining to accept Indian govt’s request to reach Tamil north in the island to dvelop agricuture after the ravage of war) have shown their ethnic affinity. BUT ILAYARAAJA is a cruel man and he is fanatically commited to vedic hinduism and indian
    nationalism.

  303. It matters nothing to him if news like what is reported in DINAMANI this morning ( 22.08.2009 at page 5 of Coimbatore edition) undre the heading “தமிழை வளர்க்க தனி இயக்கம் தேவை”! the relevant details out of the said news item are:” வேலூர், ஆக.21: “அடுத்த தலைமுறை இளைஞர்களுக்கு தமிழைக் கொண்டு செல்லவும், தமிழை வளர்க்கவும் தனி இயக்கம் தேவை’ என்று விஐடி வேந்தர் ஜி.விஸ்வநாதன் கேட்டுக்கொண்டார்.

    வேலூரில் வெள்ளிக்கிழமை நடைபெற்ற 33-ம் ஆண்டு கம்பன் விழாவைத் தொடக்கி வைத்து அவர் பேசியது:

    “6 கோடி மக்கள் தொகை கொண்ட தமிழகத்தில் எத்தனை பேர் தமிழ் வளர்க்கும் பணியில் ஈடுபட்டுள்ளனர்? இங்கு 10-ம் வகுப்பு வரை படித்தாலே தமிழை ஓரளவுக்குக் கற்றுக்கொள்ள முடிகிறது.

    நாட்டில் உள்ள பள்ளிகளில் கல்வித் தரத்தை ஆராய 2008-ம் ஆண்டில் அமைக்கப்பட்ட குழு, 1 முதல் 3-ம் வகுப்பு வரையுள்ள மாணவர்களிடம் தங்களது தாய் மொழி எழுத்து, எண்களைக் காட்டி படிக்கக் கூறியது.

    இதில், மாணவர்களின் கற்றல் நிலையில் மற்ற அனைத்து மாநிலங்களைக் காட்டிலும் தமிழகம் கடைசி இடம் பெற்றது.

    அனைத்து நாட்டிலும் அந்தந்த மொழியில் பெயர்களைச் சூட்டுகின்றனர். தமிழ்நாட்டில் வைக்கப்படும் விதவிதமான பெயர்களால் தமிழர்கள் எனும் அடையாளத்தை இழக்கிறோம்.

    மேலும், இலக்கியக் கூட்டங்களில் இளைஞர்களை பங்கேற்கச் செய்ய வேண்டும்.

    அரசியல், சாதி, மத இயக்கங்கள் இருப்பதுபோல, “தமிழ் இயக்கம்’ தொடங்கப்பட வேண்டும். இதில், ஒரு லட்சம் பேரை பங்கேற்கச் செய்துவிட்டால், அடுத்த தலைமுறைக்கு தமிழை கொண்டு செல்ல முடியும்’ என்றார் ஜி.விஸ்வநாதன்.’

    According to me, even wiht one lakh committed tamil development wrokers TAMIL will never be develpoped and will con tionue to languish and ultimately wither away fro want of patronage vfrom the pople enslaved in idnian polity ane economy.

    I orimise i will seek to eleborate more later and forgiive me for disrutping here and leaving u all. Next three days
    I have to travel to plaecs for attending marriages even as i will stricly avoid marriage feast in each wedding. I have been shunning even regular TV entyretainments.

    will meet u all again. LONG LIVE TAMILS. LET THEIR AWAKEINING & ARISING EVER GROW.

  304. shankar,
    Sinhalese public are not monsters. But they are incredibly racist when it comes to supporting oppression of tamils.
    They have been cultivated from a young age by reading that ridiculous nonsense of book called the Mahavamsa.
    Why do you think they call Rajapakse ‘King Dutugemunu’?
    Because much of everything the Sinhalese government does and the way its people think is motivated by the Mahavamsa.
    Obviously there are exceptions to the rule. But the majority think alike.
    My family in Colombo always say that: ‘Government can starve the Sinhalese people and make their life hell, but all the government needs to say is that they will destroy tamils and the sinhalese are happy’.
    And ironically that devil JR Jayawardene made a statement of a very similar nature.

  305. I have a family friend from Jaffna.
    He has alot of sinhalese friends and mixes with everyone.
    But he tells me that when it comes to oppression of Tamil people he does not give an inch to his Sinhalese friends.
    He says they are nice people to play cricket with and have a chat, but when it comes to understanding the ethnic problem they are totally ignorant.
    They bring out the Mahavamsa nonsense that ‘tamils are invaders and stole Buddhist Land’
    And my friend has debunked the Mahavamsa theories and proven to many of his sinhalese friends that Hinduism was in Sri Lanka before Buddhism.
    This does not mean he is supporting LTTE and trying to partition Sri Lanka.
    But he says that Tamil people must not allow anybody to spread disinformation and lies about their people and their history.
    He also told me that the burning of the Jaffna library was to destroy alot of the priceless literature that reveals the truth about tamil people and their history.
    This is why the Mahavamsa needs to be debunked.
    Because to this day, many peoples attitudes are formed from that book of lies.
    I have heard that there is a Buddhist who has written a book that casts doubt on the claims made in the mahavamsa.
    I cant remember his name, but soon as i find out i will announce it here.

  306. 364. Elangovan
    Dear Friend, thanks a lot for kind reply
    “Sinhalese government wants it all, i.e. subjugation of the Tamils, and stimulation of the economy. This is the only model that they understand, economic advancement of the sinhalese while marginalizing the Tamils. Having the opportunity to cage a quarter of the NE Tamil population is a godsend for the sinhalese, and they will not lose this in the foreseeable future.”

    Yes, I think, you are right, King Mahinda greed is obvious. He wants squeezed Tamil s of every last rupee (LKR). A pathetic example is ‘The massacre of 17 NGO workers, also known as the Muttur massacre, which took placein Trincomalee. 17employees of the French INGO Action Against Hunger (Action Contre la Faim, or ACF) were shot at close range by trigger-happy Sri Lankan soldiers. You can gues, the massacre was mmediately blamed on LTTE, however the bullets in the dead NGO bodies were issued to Sri Lankan Military. Also an eye witness comes out. Recently, Sri Lanka’s “human rights”panel has cleared the army of killing Sri Lanka’s top human rights panel has cleared the army of killing those 17 aid. As you see there is no justice for the slaughtered. Critics, also, say Sri Lanka has a long history of failing to prosecute rights abuses. To further aggravate pain and sufferings of the bereaved relatives, Sri Lankan government has given them letters to sign seeking for more money from Action Against Hunger. The authorities deny the letters exist, but the BBC has seen copies of them. The relatives of murdered aid workers I say they do not want to press for more compensation. “Money will not help us – we cannot get our relatives back anyway “One family member of the victim said. A number of relatives of the murdered aid workers say they do not want to sign the government’s letters. The letters were handed to the victims’ families on 19 July at a government administration office in the eastern town of Trincomalee. They were due to be signed and handed back by Saturday 25 July. One letter was addressed to the French ambassador in Sri Lanka, a second to the country’s attorney general. “We the heirs of the deceased are aware of the interest France and the French government has taken in human rights aspects especially in the… commission of inquiry into the killing in Muttur of 17 aid workers.. “We agree with the findings of the commission that the deaths were caused by the LTTE and the compensation as determined must be paid by ACF,” it said.”Another letter addressed to the French ambassador said. “Therefore we trust that the French government will take necessary steps to oversee the payment of due compensation to the kinsmen/ women of the deceased.” A third letter seen COMMENDED Sri Lankan President Rajapaksa for investigating the killings!!!!!!! “We are extremely grateful to Your Excellency for appointing a commission of inquiry and ensuring that justice prevailed,” the letter said. Rajiva Wijesinghe, secretary to the ministry of human rights and disaster management, denied any knowledge of such letters being issued to BBC Sinhala. He added that the compensation paid by ACF “for their own wrongdoing” was inadequate and that ACF had done a “very bad thing” (But who killed the 17 aid workers?!?!?! Not ACF!!!! ACF does not carry guns). The Sri Lanka government of M. Rajapakse sinks to the lowest level. Such disgust and revulsion!! Milking the misery of the massacred

  307. President Rajapakse was born in a village called Weerakatiya in Hambantota district. English translation for Weerakatiya(pronounced as veera kathi in Tamil) is brave knife.Veerakathi was a common old first name among Tamils.I wonder how a village in the heart of Sinhala home land in the South adopted a Tamil name?

  308. 69. UGK
    “Sinhalese public are not monsters. But they are incredibly racist when it comes to supporting oppression of Tamils. They have been cultivated from a young age by reading that ridiculous nonsense of book called the Mahavamsa.”
    Well, that is true not all Sinhalese are monsters, but the monstrous silence and callous indifference to the plight of so many thousands upon thousands of people is monstrous indeed..
    370. UGK
    He says they are nice people to play cricket with and have a chat, but when it comes to understanding the ethnic problem they are totally ignorant. They bring out the Mahavamsa nonsense that ‘Tamils are invaders and stole Buddhist Land’
    Sounds like Nazi Germany: ignorant and arrogant super race to dominate, enslave a minority and do not forget the concentration camps.. up country in the North…

  309. 367. P.Padmanaaabhan

    vaNakkam naNbarkaLE! I hope you have a good attending of a marriage and safe travel !!

    mawatha silva

  310. to comment 366-elangovan

    all the things that you ask whether tamils have to do to live in sinhalese areas, i have to answer as negative. the sinhalese just go about their business and the tamils theirs. there is no time anyway for people to be mucking around. earning a living itself is a tough task in srilanka.
    your other question whether tamils migrated to the south to avoid being brutalised by the army, i cannot answer that accurately because iam not one of those. but using my available knowlede it could be for a multiplicity of reasons. the main one is i think is to avoid living in a war zone or potential war zone, and the attendent hardships and risks you have to endure. and due to the war employment opportunities have also dwndled in those areas.
    another reason is maybe they are afraid of the army and also afraid of the ltte. as jeyaraj once mentioned it is like being caught between tweedledee and tweedledum. young people may be worried that they will be concripted by the ltte. some of them also come to colombo because they want to go abroad. they live for some time in colombo before going abroad.older people come because once the children come they want to be with them. now that the war is over you will find the trend being reversed gradually, irrespective of the fact that the northeast is flooded with armed forces.
    as for the woman on top floor of padmanaaban, people can discern what type she really is. as winston churchill said you cant fool all the people all the time. anyway padmanaaban must be liking her because he is feeling sorry that she is single and trying to find eligible young batchelors for her., by advertising on this blog.

  311. to comment 369 and 370 ugk

    a quick word about the mahawamsa. it is a historical document that has been painstakingly recorded. to call it bunkem is ridiclous. of course it is not perfect. some things that might be embarrasing to the sinhalese or the royal family may be deliberately omitted or changed. for example prince veediya bandara, the famous army commander of the kingdom of kotte was the son of a chola prince and sinhalese princess. but in the mahawamsa it says his father was a sinhalese provincial official. you have to understand that those who chronicled it do so at the kings wishes. the king is supreme. if you annoy him heads will roll. hence the hereditary traits of king mahinda and prince gotabhaya and the white vans.
    from the mahaamsa you will get a pretty good idea of srilankas history. it does not mean it is totally accurate. but you cannot say that it is a load of rubbish because you dont like what is in it.

  312. vanakkam, naNbarkaLE. I am back home after days travel for social puposes like attending wedding. I have to begin tomroow by 04:00 am for next round. Before i go to snatc H Some sleep, may i please further record here some references observed by me today that are relevant to the point rasied by thiru.shankar in his posting 333 that ( inter alia) ; ” could you please tell me why you tamils in tamilnadu dont believe in sovereign tamil tamilnadu first. once you get a seperate nation for tamilnadu it will be easier for us to get eelam dont you think. after all you are 65 million and we are only 4 million”. (1) a full page adverisement in THINA THANTHI tamil daily ( coimbatore edition ) dated 23.8.09 relates to a new fast food joint in a certain l.cality in the town and the name is announced as follows: “ஸ்ரீ சுயம்புலிங்க சுவாமி துணை. ரவி மெட்டல் மார்ட்டின் புதிய கிளை. கோவை சாய்பாபா காலனியில். ரவி பூட் கேலக்சி இன்று இனிய உதயம். (2) In the Sunday supplement pages of the same dfialy at page VIII, it is stated ” கோவை ஸ்பெஷல்” . (3)again at page 8 of the said daily :it is read “செல் போன் மற்றும் land line சேவை..” (4) 7 kms north of Pollachi town on NH 209 there is an
    english medium school by name “BHARAT VIDYA NIKETHAN” . (5) the name board of a fitness centre in Pollachi toen reads in tamil letters :”பவர் ஜிம் ஸ்லிம் கேர் சென்டெர் ” With more such references in the forth coming postings I will cogently explain to thiru.Shankar that why 65 million strong though we tamils in TN are, we would not seek to be people of a soverign Tamil naadu! For information may i refer here the news in DNAMANI and SUNDAY EXPRESS dated 23.8.09 reads that: a book ‘”Sri Lanka – From War to Peace” (Har-Anand Publications).” authored and released by Nitin A. Gokhale reveals everythign of what NEW DELHI did to eliminate LTTE and thereby to extinguish Tamil nationalism is open now and it is also relevant to the point raised by thiru.Shankar. kindly read for conveninece certain portions and i quote:” India played a critical, albeit covert, role in the success of Sri Lanka’s war against the Tamil Tigers, with the Indian Navy providing vital intelligence in locating and destroying at least a dozen LTTE rogue vessels laden with arms, says the first such detailed account of the operation.

  313. India’s covert support to Sri Lanka in the war against the LTTE assumed many forms, ranging from back-channel talks and a tacit endorsement of Colombo’s destroy-LTTE mission to supply of military hardware and sharing of real-time intelligence, says Nitin A. Gokhale in his book “Sri Lanka – From War to Peace” (Har-Anand Publications).

    New Delhi helped Colombo in myriad ways despite its public hands-off posture and denial of offensive weapons to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eeelam (LTTE) due to domestic political compulsions, contends Gokhale.

    The ruling United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government in New Delhi was dependent upon the DMK party from Tamil Nadu, perceived to be sympathetic to the LTTE, for its survival in parliament.

    “Publicly, India maintained that it would not give Sri Lanka any offensive weapons. Yet, in early 2006 India quietly gifted five Mi-17 helicopters to the Sri Lankan Air Force,” Gokhale writes. “The only Indian condition was: these helicopters would fly under Sri Lankan Air Force colours. New Delhi clearly did not want to annoy UPA’s Tamil Nadu allies like the DMK unnecessarily,” he says.

    The author singles out the Indian Navy for special praise. The Indian Coast Guard gifted a Sukanya Class offshore patrol vessel (OPV) to the Sri Lankan Navy in 2002, which played a major role in several daring missions launched by the Sri Lankan Air Force to rescue the Army’s Deep Penetration Units when they were surrounded by LTTE’s counter-infiltration units.

    The OPVs also helped when injured soldiers had to be airlifted from deep inside LTTE-held territory.”

    I will meet u again when it is covenient shortly.

  314. Re: 371 Mawatha Silva
    I totally agree with u that ACF massacre was such a disgrace. i had the chance to read the full report about it in the web site of university teachers for human rights, jaffna, who i always assume impartial and truthful.

    anybody reading about the incident may feel that the army or police do all these purposefully to hurt tamils. but as a sinhalese i know that the real reason is not that. the reasons are much deep.

    as a person who grew up in a sinhalese village i have seen and heard how police and army abuse the power given to them to keep law and order. to tell the truth they break law and order more. they help illegal liquor business and some had other allegations like rape and murder. so not only tamils, sinhalese also try their best to avoid any dispute with security forces. the best example i can say is that when i was small, i have heard my brothers discussing never to meet with an accident with a vehicle of security forces since anyway it’ll be your fault. the security forces always think they are always right and always superior. they never accept their fault.

    but the difference in incidents when tamil or a sinhalese is a victim is what happens afterwards. recent incidents in sri lanka are best examples. you yourself can compare the incidents in angulana and SLIIT student with that of the death of 2 upcountry tamil girls in Bauddaloka Mw. people were outraged and made a huge voice against the police in the 2 former incidents. the police and the gov were so presurriesed from all sides that they had to take action. in contrast, the death of 2 tamil girls were mere incidents of suicide. even though the police wasn’t accused for the deaths, there were reports of failure in proper investigation. but who is there to protest on their behalf except their poor parents? aren’t sinhalese and tamils so distanced that sinhalese don’t bother to protest on behalf of tamils and vise versa? there is a clear unity among sinhalese when an injustice happens to them and they use media and political power to seek justice. but i don’t see such unity among tamils or may be tamils are silenced. tamil media may be giving publicity for these events but such news never reach sinhalese. there are tamils in the government and there are tamil members of parliament. do they use their power to help the tamil victims? or do they really have power? i seriously don’t know. but i was so disgusted to read the incident of ACF massacre where tamil para-military tried to intimidate families of those victims. can there be any more tragedy than your own people avoiding you seeking justice?

    the truth in sri lanka is security forces know only to fight. they have been given unlimited power and their knowledge of human rights is minimal, which should be an essential part of their training. may be when there is war they are taught how to use weapons and sent to war fields. but recent incidents clearly show the need for more discipline.

    funny thing is eventhough we know our politicians are not trustworthy, when they say something about tamils we trust them wholeheartedly with no further questioning. i hope same is true with tamils. when sinhalese are said about the result of ACF massacre case they trust it. i haven’t read a single sinhala or english newspaper criticising it. may be tamil media criticised but sinhalese never know. how many have access to UTHR web site or that such a web site exists?

    this polarization among sinhalese and tamils is a fortune for our politicians. i read tamils discussing their problems with US gov, tamil nadu politicians and so on. if ever tamils discuss their problems with sinhalese that is only with politicians. but your problems will be solved on the day you effectively communicate your problems with sinhalese. you may think sinhalese are racist, big headed people who will never listen to you. any society has such people. there are enough moderate thinking people. 30 years of war has made sinhalese suspect tamils and vise versa. you can’t blame them since enough incidents happened for them to think so. but if you genuinely try you can. after all these years there are enough sinhalese who have no idea what the tamil grievences are. true they have been victims of gov agenda. but what have tamils done to counter attack that? instead of waiting for US gov or UN to intervene and solve your problems, why don’t you reach out to sinhalese? don’t we have to get together as citizens of sri lanka and fight together against injustice?

  315. comment 372 by geoffrey
    “President Rajapakse was born in a village called Weerakatiya in Hambantota district. English translation for Weerakatiya(pronounced as veera kathi in Tamil) is brave knife.Veerakathi was a common old first name among Tamils.I wonder how a village in the heart of Sinhala home land in the South adopted a Tamil name?”

    why geoffrey didn’t you know mahinda is tamizh. that is why Velu P made mahinda the president (for the discounted price of 180 million rupees-Velu P valued a tamizh vote at Rs 600 each). So all eelamists should support mahinda anna. after all he is Velu P’s choice. I’m sure Velu P will provide further clarification on Nov 27th…….

    on a lighter note did you know that English translation for Sydney is Sydney Puram.Sydney Puram was a common old first name among Tamils.I wonder how a village in the Aussie home land adopted a Tamil name? Will you ask for 50-50 represenattion in the aussie pariament soon?

  316. This is the answer the question 341
    The question was:
    How can we help 300,000 innocent Tamil civilians in concentration camps on Sri Lanka?

    It is important to BOYCOTT SRI LANKA:
    a. Sri Lanka Cricket – this is not entertainment
    b. Boycott Sri Lankan Airlines
    c. Boycott Tourism
    d. Food items that are imported by Sri Lankan Tamils
    and packed in Britain
    e. Garments made in Sri Lankan and sold in supermarkets
    such as Marks and Spencer and footwear including Bata
    f. Products made from rubber and coconut
    g. All forms of tea grown in Ceylon
    h. Medicinal products
    i. Fish, fish products and vegetables
    j. Sri Lanka purchasing bonds, treasury bills
    and shares in corporations,
    k. Savings their earnings in Sri Lankan banks
    and other banks accounts.
    Let’s see, I will be give more information about Boycott Sri Lanka later, I think it is not enough… :-)

  317. Boycott Sri Lanka?
    I initially thought this myself but i am not sure how well this will work.
    Mahinda in an interview said:
    ‘You want to Boycott Sri Lanka and put trade sanctions? You will hurt the civilians and not me’
    —————-

  318. This is the harsh reality is “the release of IDPs has been POSTPONED INDEFINITELY …. the IDPs even after completing the security checks, cannot be released …all the old Tamil villages that existed will be demolished.” It‘s sad and shocking!! Sri Lanka Government and SLA are destroying the way of life. They are obliterating the traditional Tamil villages, and Hindu temples.

  319. Mawatha Silva

    382. mawatha silva
    “It is important to BOYCOTT SRI LANKA:”

    If you do this, you will not only impoverish the people in the IDP camps, you will impoverish the Tamil people of Sri Lanka further, North, South, East West, Colombo, Hill country who depend on these industries to feed their families

    Think before you get carried away by your ill-thought half-baked hatreds. It is the hallmark of fools in the Tamil diaspora like yourself to act for a cause that makes the live of Tamils living in Sri Lanka immeasurably worse. Whilst you have the luxury of agigitating from your suburban armchair, the basic subsistence of Tamils in Lanka remain entwined with the fortunes of sinhalese.

  320. I’ve read so many times in so many newspapers the quotations: “?..The government troops in their thousands are being deployed to detect and destroy each and every bomb, right now which may take many weeks and months to complete. When demining operations are over, the IDPs will be resettled in traditional Tamil villages….” or “filtering those LTTE still in hiding between IDPs.

    I just have read this article.
    A source close to the President said that the release of IDPs has been postponed indefinitely with the government focusing on a plan to resettle them along with the new Sinhala and military settlements that are to be set up in the north. The source further noted that the plan is to resettle people in areas in Kilinochchi, Mullaitivu, below Mannar and above Vavuniya , where there are currently no people. The plan is said to remove all the old Tamil villages that existed in the respective areas. Although thousands of displaced persons currently living in camps even after completing the security checks, Sri Lanka government said. Half of the government’s stipulated period of 180 days to resettle the displaced persons has lapsed. The government in order to receive aid from India and other countries said it would resettle the displaced within 180 days. It is reported that elements opposed to the devolution of power within the government had proposed the above mentioned plan while the others who are supportive of power devolution have objected to it. Meanwhile, Disaster Management and Human Rights Minister Mahinda Samarasinghe told parliament on the 19th of May that the displaced would be resettled by December 31st.

    These entire statements turnout to be lies!!
    Tamil politicians claim that 80 per cent of the conflict zone of Wanni was free of mines and therefore free for immediate resettlement. Dr Nimalka Fernando who said: These people came through the mines and if you simply release then they will go back through the same path. With regard to separating the imaginary LTTE cadres, actually Sri Lanka is creating more real TTE cadres by keeping these people in the camps. “
    But the reality is “the release of IDPs has been postponed indefinitely….although thousands of displaced persons currently living in camps even after completing the security checks, they cannot be released …all the old Tamil villages that existed will be demolished…
    And I also do not think, this is going to happen “the IDPs will resettle in traditional Tamil villages….”. The Sri Lanka Government is scaremongering, making it bigger and more dangerous than it is, to blind the world and buy time for full scale colonization of Tamils native homelands and ethnic cleansing. All Tamils of Sri Lanka will become subservient slaves to “Sinhalese superior master race”

  321. 383. UGK
    “ I initially thought this myself but i am not sure how well this will work.
    Mahinda in an interview said:
    ‘You want to Boycott Sri Lanka and put trade sanctions? You will hurt the civilians and not me’
    UGK you should not listen to Mahinda propaganda machine… Otherwise you will become Mahinda zombie : ) Colombo is full of them I’ve seen them ….wonder around here on this thread.. “ peace loving Patriots”
    I understand, what you are saying. Unfortunately, the simplest thing for action is to BOYCOTT SRI LANKA. Normally neither Sri Lanka nor its masters (China, others) understand logic or justice but when they are hurt, they will have to take note. Sri Lanka’s economy is at its rock bottom. Sri Lanka Regime faces growing popular unrest over declining living standards due to the costly war and the global economic crisis that has caused a sharp fall in commodity prices and export earnings. Sri Lanka regime has virtually exhausted all access to domestic borrowing and international markets. Mahinda is desperate, he is on his knees.. After all he needs to feed many wolves, as he has of 133 ministers and nearly 2 billion Sri Lanka Army budget. Can you imagine? For such a small country!!! BOYCOTT SRI LANKA campaign will convince Sri Lanka that it has to listen. And I wonder why southern Tamils are not demonstrating peacefully or have some kind of general strike?

  322. mawatha silva,
    There is no way in hell that i will ever support Mahinda.
    There is no way that any tamil living in Sri Lanka will dare to open their mouths in Sri Lanka. Protest in SL? You crazy? They will be dead in a matter of days.
    The tamils i met in Colombo are totally afraid to say anything in public. At home they say they are extremely worried.
    I actually met a retired army man there. He said that he is deeply ashamed of what the GOSL is doing to tamil civilians in the North and East. He fought against LTTE during his service and retired in 2002 but he claims that what GOSL is doing is Genocide.
    This is a HUGE thing for me. If a member of the SL army can tell me this, it means alot.
    I cannot reveal his ID and you can be sure he wont dare to say anything there in the open. He said nobody is spared there (sinhalese or tamil) if they speak the truth.

  323. 388. UGK
    Ok, I understand. UGK take care of yourself, be careful and stay safe. We will do our best to help, guys.

  324. Channel 4 News 25 August 2009 shows footage claimed to show Sri Lankan forces executing Tamils earlier this year. Jonathan Miller reports.

    Just three months after the Sri Lankan government declared the country liberated from the Tamil Tigers, video footage has emerged apparently showing government troops summarily executing Tamils.

    Journalists for Democracy in Sri Lanka, which obtained the material, said it was filmed in January – when the international media were prevented by the Sri Lankan government from covering the conflict zone.

    Tonight, the Sri Lankan High Commission denied the government had carried out atrocities against the Tamil community.

    The Sri Lankan government launched a large scale military offensive in January capturing the Tamil Tiger held town of Kilinochchi. The army then steadily pushed the rebels into an small area of the north-east.

    Be warned – there are extremely disturbing scenes in this report from our foreign affairs correspondent Jonathan Miller.hannel 4 News shows footage claimed to show Sri Lankan forces executing Tamils earlier this year. Jonathan Miller reports.

    Just three months after the Sri Lankan government declared the country liberated from the Tamil Tigers, video footage has emerged apparently showing government troops summarily executing Tamils.

    Journalists for Democracy in Sri Lanka, which obtained the material, said it was filmed in January – when the international media were prevented by the Sri Lankan government from covering the conflict zone.

    Tonight, the Sri Lankan High Commission denied the government had carried out atrocities against the Tamil community.

    The Sri Lankan government launched a large scale military offensive in January capturing the Tamil Tiger held town of Kilinochchi. The army then steadily pushed the rebels into an small area of the north-east.

    Be warned – there are extremely disturbing scenes in this report from our foreign affairs correspondent Jonathan Miller.

  325. In a few months to year LTTE will look a distant spec but real culprits and its governence and chauvinism will be at large to take the spotlight.

  326. mawatha silva on August 20th, 2009 at 5:16 in posting 352: “Vanakkam thiru P.Padmanaaabhan I’m a Tamil, but my pen name is ” mawatha silva” which is Sinhalese. Many bloggers on this thread and many others, who have Tamil names, are Sinhalese and the opposite is true. Read the content of the post and then decide for your-self is he a friend to Tamilian speaking people or not? Thiru P.Padmanaaabhan, why do you thing Tamil Nadu government erased the word ‘Eezham’ from the phrase ‘Ezhum Thamizh Eezham’? Thank u so much, dear MS.
    Because , first thiru.MK was NEVER committed to Eezham cause seriously unlike thiru.MGR. who was spontaneous in his support to the Eezhmite tamils. He could force the Congress govt of his time to get results from the Colombo Sinhalese govt and for tamils. Remember “OPERATION POOMAALAI” ” by which IAF airdropped food and other needs to the besieged Eezhamite tamils? Thiru.Raajiv was the Indian PM and His excellency the president of SL was thiru.Jayawardene. If ever thiru.MK did for the Eezhamite tamils it was due to political compulsion. If free from such compulsion, he and his party do not come forward to be with Eezhamite tamils. Currently the DMK govt of tamil naadu needs the support of Congress members in the state assembly. It can not deviate from the anti eezham policy of the UPA govt. Selvi.JJ is ever ready to recah to Congress. Remember Mawatha Silvaa , her pre-parliamentary election clarion call to the Congress to come to her alliance? If Congress had come to her allaince then she would have jettisoend thiru.Vaiko (MDMK) and Dr.Ramdos of PMK . But Congress has bigger plans than mere electoral alliance. It is hoping for fishing in the post-Karunanadhi waters of DMK when there will be photo finish fight for control of the party between Thiru.Alagiri and thiru.MK Stalin. The former is aggressive and ruthless while the later is strategic and more experienced in politics. I guarantee u thiru.MM, the Maran brothers would be first to leave DMK and Dravidan politics to join Congress if not to start their own political party. They will take stock of post MK situation in the party and decide accordingly. Coming back to Selvi.JJ’s opportunistic political game, even when she declared her pro eezham support on the eve last parliamentary electiosns whih was hailed by the helpless Eezhamite tamils all over the world, her assuraance to get Eezham was ambiguous. She never used the word sovereign Thamiz Eezham ( thani eezham naadu) . More over sh had been carefully saying the electorate and media that she woudl get veezham olny if her allinace wins in all 40 seats from tamil spaking TN and Pondy UT and if there is a favorable Govt gets seated at the New Delho after elections. Quite practical, u know, mathwa silvaa? Then why not MK too? He is already in alliance with DMK and thiru.Mk is more reliable and amenable to them than Selvi.JJ. Congress stuck to DMK and DMK to Congress. They made some gains in TN. BUT CONGRESS MADE NECESSARY GAINS IN THE OVE ALL TALLY OF ELECTION RERSULTS AND EXTRICATED ITSELF FROM PRESSURISING DMK SUPPORT. ( to ocnitnue)

  327. May i please add , thiru.mawatha silva, in respect of ur posting no.382 on August 24th, 2009 at 6:51 am urging us to boycott goods in india of lankan origin, i have recently shunned a shop selling sri lankan made furnitures and biscuits in a groceries shop. But I was so pained to find that a couple here who r my friends here travelling to London to visit their sons have opted to use Srilankan airways for the cheaper air fares This is an illustration in reply to thiru.Shankar’s question quoted right above in posting no.393. demand for severing State has to come from very strong base of ethnic consciousness whis is absent in TN due to historical, spocial, economic and poltical factors which were evolving from monarchical days through coloniaL days and the succeeding Indian polity of democracy, linguistic reorganisation, separate State with real powers for governing the Tamils by themselves , emergence of Dravdian movements , welfare schemes . U will read me more. .

  328. vaNakkam P.Padmanaaabhan
    Thanks so much for your kind reply. I’m very happy that you are choosing to boycott Sri Lankan products and services because this will go some way to helping us to get the 300,000 Tamil free from these horrendous concentration camps.
    We need as much support as possible- the more the better- so please encourage your friends and relatives to boycott Sri Lanka too. Remember: products include Sri Lankan tea, tourism, garments, fish, banking, their airline etc.
    Perhaps you could also appeal to shopkeepers not to sell Sri Lankan products. In addition, maybe you could appeal to Newspapers and businesses regarding this matter.
    If we could establish a network of like-minded people in our communities and through the internet and blogs then we could develop increasing support to free these innocent Hindus.
    Thank you for your description of the intricate details of Indian politics- you seem to know it very well. I agree with you that the DMK was never committed to the Eezham cause unlike thiru MGR. I hope that in the future MGR can influence the Sinhalese government to recognize the rights of the Tamil to equality and self-determination.
    LONG LIVE TAMILS. LET THEIR AWAKEINING & ARISING EVER GROW.

  329. 392. P.Padmanaaabhan,
    Thanks!
    It will take the effort of global tamils to keep exposing GOSL for war crimes.
    The international community has a track record of taking action extremely late.
    But take action they will.
    The prosecution of the Srebrenica Genocide gives me alot of hope.
    Bruce Fein went as far to say that ‘Srebrenica and Dafur are like tea parties compared to Sri Lanka’
    Therefore the evidence is overwhelming.
    We must salute Francis Boyle and Bruce Fein. They have worked very hard to accumulate all the incidents and build up the evidence

  330. Mawatha Silva,
    Here in the local Sri Lankan shops they have stopped selling Sri Lankan biscuits and other things.
    I have not been in all Sri Lankan shops here, but many of them have stopped.
    All the Maliban, Munchee, Elephant have all disappeared and are replaced by alot of middleastern and East European products.
    The Sri Lankan Airline thing is a bit tricky though.
    Many tamils started using the Kingfisher Airline via Bangalore. But Kingfisher seeing the sudden surge in passengers using them, they raised the fares. And some people i am told went back to Sri Lankan Airlines.
    I have a funny thing to say about SL airlines.
    Apparently they standards have deteriorated so low that many say they wont fly SL again.
    The toliets broken, the food is expired, and the pilots also not qualified and land very roughly. The experienced pilots left after Emirates kicked SL out. Apparently that was done due to GOSL politicians making last second bookings and kicking all the normal passengers off.
    Also the flights dont take off on time from London. The SL Airline staff are so inefficient that they miss the time frame for take off at Heathrow and usually the next slot is given 1/2 to 1 hour late. And then SL Airlines has to pay severe fines for that also.

  331. Mawatha Silva,
    Sinhalese government to recognize the rights of the Tamil to equality and self-determination.
    ————————————–
    I say with much sadness this will never happen.
    As long as they have those clowns in red robes interfering in politics, there will only be misery and humiliation of tamils.
    As a monk told Al Jazeera reporter:
    ‘Problem is not LTTE, we must deal with Tamil. Sri Lanka is actually the Hela Deeva, which means this land is only for the Sinhala speaking buddhists.’

    We must credit this monk for speaking honestly and not using LTTE as a smokescreen to hide the anti-tamil feeling that has been apparent long before LTTE appeared on the scene.
    And when you realise that SWRD was stabbed by a buddhist monk because he was seen to ‘favour’ the tamils (when he tried to reverse the damage caused by the Sinhala only act). It goes to show, how much this religious brainwashing affects the population all the way from the poor farmer to the fat politician.

  332. http://transcurrents.com/tc/2009/08/what_is_required_now_is_full_i.html

    Wish my fellow Tamils who make all the wrong noises, listen and move in the right direction.

    There is a clear sympathy factor now which offers a ray of hope.

    A divided house cannot stand.

    Speak with one voice for constitutional reform. There is no other option.

    The longer GOSL takes to implement meaningful and genuine constitutional provisions to safeguard minority rights, higher and stronger will be the credibility rating of the minority position.

    Putting the cart in front of the horse does not make sense.

    Padmanaaabhan, will you please stop dishing out rubbish.

  333. 401. Nostradamus
    ———————————–
    GOSL makes its decisions based on what the extremists monks tell them to do. They call themselves the JHU now. But they are the same bunch of clowns that have been around for decades under various names.
    And there is now way in hell that 13th Amendment is going to be implemented while those lot call the shots.
    In a way, many people curse Mahinda. But he only does what he is forced to do.
    You can bet your life that if any thing SLIGHTLY resembling devolution of powers is about to be implemented, the monks will be on the streets.
    I have seen it happen so many times.
    Nation approaches a fair agreement, and either the LTTE or the Bhikkus will spoil it.
    The LTTE is not there now. So the Bhikkus have the playground to themselves

  334. Channel 4, which broadcast the video
    http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/is+this+evidence+of+sri+lankan+aposwar+crimesapos/3321087
    Some on the other blogs and perhaps some will do the same here, so to those who will chose to downplay, excuse or explain away the inhuman treatment of prisoners as clearly shown by the video footage. Firstly, I wish to emphasize that we are all first and foremost united by our common humanity, over and above such labels as “Tamil”, “Sri Lankan”, “Jewish”, or whatever. If you do not feel any sense of compassion for your fellow man then I would invite you to look within yourself and ask why. Compassion is not to be confused with taking sides- it is the basic tenet of being human; and without it we are poorer. Secondly, to the comments which explain away the behavior captured on the video as being a hazard of war and inevitable; or that these people deserved it for previous actions, I would wholeheartedly refute this. If that was the case then once a war had begun there would be license to treat members of the opposing side however one would like. The Geneva Convention is a universally agreed set of rules set up in response to some of the atrocities committed during the Second World War (I’m sure we all know how the Nazis treated “prisoners of war”), in the hope that they would never be repeated and that a basic level of humanity could be afforded prisoners of war and civilians.

  335. 397. Keselwatte
    Dear Keselwatte,
    Thank you very much for your very insightful and enlightening post.
    I am very happy to learn that you are boycotting Sri Lankan products. What do you think about the idea of extending this further? China is helping to sustain the Sri Lankan Government’s position with its financial and diplomatic support. Perhaps it is an idea to write to the Chinese embassies and diplomats in protest. Any suggestions for other similar acts?
    Thank you also for your insightful analysis of the true intentions of the Sinhalese Government in conjunction with the Buddhist monks. They try to cover the reality of their true intentions with lies and propaganda. They talk about mine-clearing and exaggerate about there being an LTTE combatant behind every palm tree, but I’m worried that this is giving them the time and opportunity to act out its real objectives , that is: to ethnically cleanse, to colonize the land and to destroy the traditions and identity of the Tamil people, making them second-class citizens.
    Thank you for your quote from the Sinhalese monk, confirming that the ‘Final Solution’ for the Sinhalese is to have a Sri Lanka with zero Tamil: ‘Problem is not LTTE, we must deal with Tamil. Sri Lanka is actually the Hela Deeva, which means this land is only for the Sinhala speaking buddhists.’

  336. 401. Nostradamus

    Dear Nostradamus,
    I fully agree with you that what is required now is full implementation of 13th amendment. You are right that a divided house cannot stand and that we must speak with one voice.
    I hope that you join me in boycotting Sri Lankan products such as tourism, tea, garments, airlines etc. Let us also consider that China is an essential financial and diplomatic supporter of Sri Lanka and thus is the only one country who can actually influence them to free 300,000 people, sooner rather than later.
    What do you think about this relentless and ruthless Sinhalese propaganda machine? Guess what happened to me on the way to the temple? I read that there was an attempt on Mahinda Rajapaska’s life. I was confused because I’d read a week earlier that there had been an attempt on his life. Reading more closely I saw that this time it was an attempt on his brother’s life!! Who knows? Maybe next week there will an attempt on his third brother Basil’s life!! I can just picture Mahinda’s crocodile tears falling to the ground! It’s obviously propaganda to elicit sympathy to counter the tarnished image of the Government following widespread criticism of the concentration camps. It’s just like the lies they are perpetuating to justify keeping the Tamil’s imprisoned in camps for an indeterminate amount of time. There are no independent observers so the Sri Lankan government can construct its own narrative, so it can then do as it pleases.

  337. 395. mawatha silva says:


    I hope that in the future MGR can influence the Sinhalese government to recognize the rights of the Tamil to equality and self-determination. ”

    YES . YOU KEEP YOUR HOPE ALIVE.

    Nothing else required to proove Eezham dreamers live in fools paradise.

  338. 406.Anonymous:”Nothing else required to proove Eezham dreamers live in fools paradise.” in reply to thiru.mathwa silvaa’s commnet:” I hope that in the future MGR can influence the Sinhalese government to recognize the rights of the Tamil to equality and self-determination. ” in posting 395. u know sir, dream is a heightened reference to certain great aim. Thamizh Eezham will never perish as lost hope all tamils aware of great historical heritage. Such great ‘deram’ like Thamizh eEzham is still possible with proper planning of which is a careful stduy of international political milieue is must and also euqipping ourselves ( tamils) with necessray capabiltiies. Palestinians’ demand is not met yet. U can not say they have been in lviing in fools paradise. if u r right then It looks in Mynamar’s even Aung San Suu Kyi for her aim of democracy in her country is living in fools’ paradise too, correct? She too is reviled being an “axehandle of neo-colonialists” and “a traitor who deserves to be deported.” some even accuse her of being amenable to the interests of the United States and to opening the country to foreign investors. BUT DOES USA REALLY CARE FOR HER? IF USA COULD CURRENTLY BE BATTLING IN AFGHANISTHAN OR IRAQ FOR CERATIN POLITICAL ENDS OR AIMS OR DID FIGHT IN VIETNAM, WHY IS IT SHYING AWAY FROM MYANMAR ? Obviously the only resaon is CHINA next door to Myanmar. For its own ends CHINA of Peoples democracy DOES NOT SUPPORT AUNG SAN SUU KYI who wants presciisely democracy in Myanmar. INDIA A DEMORACTIC COUNTRY ITSELF DOES NOT BOTHER ABOUT AUNG OR HER CUASE OF DEMOCRACY for Myanmar. One can rightllys ay Tibet is lost for ever for Tibetians and dalailaama is a symbol of those with aims tantamounting to lving in fools paradise. It is the spririt in the backdrop of history awhich matter in matters like eezham. u say easily Eezham is a dream and hope for it is lviing in fool’s paradise. BUT TELL US IN JUSTIFICATION OF HOW THE SINHALESE R ENTILED TO THE WHOLE OF ISLAND THEY CLAIM IS THEIR COUNTRY? IF U CAN GIVE JUSTIFIABAL REASONS THEN I WILL CEASE SUPPORTING EEZHAM CVAUSE. Come on anonymous .

  339. comment 408
    “BUT TELL US IN JUSTIFICATION OF HOW THE SINHALESE R ENTILED TO THE WHOLE OF ISLAND THEY CLAIM IS THEIR COUNTRY? IF U CAN GIVE JUSTIFIABAL REASONS THEN I WILL CEASE SUPPORTING EEZHAM CVAUSE”

    dear padnanaba can you tell us how peelamists r entitled to a tamizh only north and east from which sinhalese and muslims will be ethnically cleansed?

    can you also tell us why these peelamists are greedy for a tamizh only land where no other communities can live.

    you have no idea do you? after all you are not a sri-lankan….you are a tamizh living in tamizh nadu….what do you know about the suffering the peelamists caused in sri-lanka?

    so padnanaba keep supporting peelam….after all Velu P has already achieved peelam….a few greedy peelamists may have wanted a tamizh only land…..but you need to understand peelam will never be allowed in Sri-Lanka….Sri-Lankans know how to deal with peelamist terrorists….

    so keep supporting your peelam casue…there is no need for you to stop that….after all you are not a Sri-Lankan…..who cares what you think?

  340. to comment 400-keselwatta

    stabbed or shot , does it make any difference.

    hmmmm- – – – – – – come to think of it i think i prefer to be shot than stabbed.

  341. to comment 402 -talduwa

    i think mahida is aware of that . that is why he is trying to strengthen himself and finish off all the elections first. then he can show them he is not the same mahinda who had to go everywhere with the begging bowl for votes in 2005. he will tell all of them to piss off, and show them who the boss is. the ‘homegrown solution ” which he says will be acceptable to the sinhalese and tamils will come. if mahinda was a fool he wont be what he is today, against insurmontable obstacles and undercutting. he knows how to play the patient game.

  342. vaNakkam , Shankar and others.

    Sorry Shankar. i am yet to open to answer u in full ands even this night it is not possible as my time is limited at thiss early hrs of 30th Aug.But NEVER a day paases for me without thinking of Eezhamite tamils and my reposibility to tell u why we in tamil naadu numbering 65 mlns can not raise voice for sovereign Tamil naadu, but why we here, that is like me, have been supporting the Eexzamite tamils in their struggle for over 50 years ( ito be accurate ,since my college days in the 60s of last century after we a bunch of students attended a room meeting at MLA’s Hostel in the then Madras addressed by EEAHAM GANDHI Thanthai SJV Sekvanaayaham explaining the rep which the Eezhamite Tamils were caught in the post independent Ceylon in the realms of language education, employment, religion and, more than them, the settlement of Sinhalese in traditional and historical tamil areas of the island) and their cause of separate sovereign THAMIZH EEZHAM comprising tof he said areas, after Eezhamite Tamils decided by their famous VATTUKOTTATI RESOLUTION.

    Laconically the course of evolution of historical, social , poltical and economic factors relating to the tamils life in the southern part overhaning indian sub continent and in the neighbourhood of northern and eastern areas of the underlying island of Ceylon has been vastly y different right gh from the historical times. For instance , Eezhamite Tamils were NEVER divided by ruling powerful dynasties like Cheraas, Chozhaas and Pandiyaas not to speke of Pallavaas mostly rivaling and figthiting against each other which were however incidental to and unavoidable during the era of moarhcical reign when the KING was supreme and the subjects and had no poltical rights of their own as came to be known later after peoples democracies blossomed and monarchy everywhere died itheir natural death, as part evolution of poltical superemacy of peoples’ power that replaced the heriditary right of ruling families over certain territories historically the areas of particular group of people who came to be known as nations/nationalties. Later , Euroepan colonialism was common in the sub continent and in Ceylon. But after the exit of colonial masters, tamils of Indian sun continent and in ceylon had got placed in totally different political and economic milieu. THE THINC TAMIL IN THE ISLAND FACED THE DISCRIMINATORY AND REPRESSIVE SINGLE MAJORITY RACE OF SINHALESE WHEREAS OUR CONCERN IN THE THEN COMPOSITE MADRAS STATE WAS TO TERMINATE THE DOMINANCE OF A CERTAIN COMMUINTY OVER REST OF TAMILS! Dravdian idenitity came to be identified for the people living south of Vindhyaas and emotionally embedded and accepted to the tamils in the then MADRAS presdiency within an . Indian polity hat resulted from colonial reign, following islamic invasions and consolidation of different areas ruled by native monarchies into islamic Empires being founndation for the a common of India. Later , once Indian democracy was enshrined in the Indian Constituion, tamils and other major nationalites even got their respective separate States established f. within the Indian union. Each such State was given necessary poltical powers for economic develpment. Wihtin the unon of india and within in each such State making up for the said Union , welfare goverenments came to be operative by the people through elections. THIS IS A MARVELLOUS POLITICAL EXPERIMENT FOR US IN THE INDIAN SUB CONTINENT WHICH FOUND A PARALLEL EVOLUTION IN THE EMERGENCE of EUROPEAN UNION . I , AS ONE POLTICALLY ENLIGHTENED AND CONSCIOUS OF MY GREAT ETHIC HERITAGE OF TAMIL IDENTITY, HAVE BEEN VERY STRONGLY SPREADING THE MESSAGE OF CHANGE FOR UNION OF INDIA TO THE EU PATTERN ! Resaons are many especially the very idendity of us as tamils and our language have come to be abandoned by our own volition in the course of repressive and dominant IIdian economy and concenrated and centralised political authority and economic powers of NEW DELHI based goverenment. In my view thus Union of India though democaratic and accommodative as evident ffrom the linguistic reorgansation of i the Indina polity as a Union of constituent States is a FAILURE where it concerns ethnic interests and identity. That is i why from ASSAM we read cries like “INDIAN DOGS GET OUT OF ASSAM” !! dear Shankar u will read me more later as it is time at 04:15 AM IST am on 30th Aug to warm up fmyself for na hour long morning walk to be followed a tight shedule of driving with family to attend a day long cermonies of tonsuirng, ear boring for the children and feasting organised by a family on my caste line at atemple some 85 kms form where I live Last night too my family attended the wedding ( between a relative Tamil youth of my caste and a kannada spaeking vokkaliga Gowdaa girl both in love in their work place of Bangalure ( beive me which was once Vengaaloor in tamil!) l Sorry Shankar. we will sure meet again .

  343. 413. P.Padmanaaabhan

    THE ETHNIC TAMILS IN THE ISLAND OF SRI LANKA ARE FACED THE DISCRIMINATORY AND REPRESSIVE SINHALESE MAJORITY RACE OF SINHALESE WHEREAS OUR CONCERN IN THE THEN COMPOSITE MADRAS STATE WAS TO TERMINATE THE DOMINANCE OF A CERTAIN COMMUNITY OVER REST OF TAMILS

    Well defined thought and deep analysis!! Thanks for this informative statement .

  344. 405 Mawatha Silva

    Dear Silva,

    I do not believe there can be an indefinite postponement of the political solution.

    I feel the boycott call should not precede the unequivocal declaration that is expected with regard to the intent to fully implement the 13th amendment to the constitution.

    Time will certainly answer.

  345. India is an exceptionally divided country. I have been told that there are 49 separate insurgencies there. The Indian govt tries to present an image of unity but they dont treat many communities within their borders very well.
    Sri Lanka is no different, but being a smaller country it has fewer divisions.
    The Sinhalese not only have problems with the Hindu tamils but also the Muslims, and even Christians.
    See the type of comments being posted here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgSaWUlgsxk&feature=PlayList&p=7115D1110CC25B20&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3
    ——-
    There are several videos of this nature with Sinhalese commenters posting racist abuse at muslims.
    It looks like Muslims are going to be targeted next, now that Hindus have been oppressed.

  346. Sri Lanka’s Terrorist Investigation Division arrested J.S. Tissainayagam, the editor of news Web site OutreachSL, and today he was sentenced to 20 years in prison today under anti-terrorism laws. The charges against Tissainayagam cite a magazine, North Eastern Monthly, which the journalist edited in 2006. Two charges relate to articles Tissainayagam wrote for the magazine. The Sri Lankan government said the articles incited communal disharmony, an offence under the Prevention of Terrorism Act. J.S. Tissainayagam, an ethnic Tamil, was also a columnist for the Sri Lankan weekly The Sunday Times. I condemn J.S. Tissainayagam’s long detention, harsh charges, and subsequent sentencing to 20 years in prison for publishing a magazine, which should not constitute an offence. This is the latest step by the Sri Lankan government to intimidate journalists. Tissainayagam pleaded not guilty because he does not believe he committed a criminal act. Sri Lanka’s secretary of the Ministry of Disaster Management and Human Rights denied that Tissainayagam had been detained for criticizing the government. “Some of their publications were designed to embarrass the Sri Lankan government” Sri Lankan minister said

  347. vaNakkam, thiru.Shankar, thiru.Gadkin and others. May please resume and add more for the absence Tamil nationalism in TN.

    In posting 414 Gadkin has said: “Well defined thought and deep analysis!! Thanks for this informative statement .” and this in reply to my observation in my posting in 413 that : “THE ETHNIC TAMILS IN THE ISLAND OF SRI LANKA WERE FACED WITH THE DISCRIMINATORY AND REPRESSIVE SINHALESE MAJORITY RACE OF SINHALESE WHEREAS OUR CONCERN IN THE THEN COMPOSITE MADRAS STATE WAS TO TERMINATE THE DOMINANCE OF A CERTAIN COMMUNITY OVER REST OF TAMILS” . The cause of overcoming the dominance of this particular community in the realms of education, employment and in social status over rest of people of the then Madras presidency had brought together leaders and personalities of other Dravidian stocks with their origin as the Telugus, Malayaalis and Kaandigas. Drividian movement found its emergence for the said common cause of terminating the supremacy of the said particular community which was about 2% only. Thus we got thanthi PERIYAAR E.V.R.RAMASAMY NAICKER., founder of DK party for social reform. For a brief period he was mooting separate and sovereign Tamil naadu. But the goal became NEVER popular. Out of DK came DMK and then AIADMK and the latest in the series is that of the cine actor thiru Vijayakaanth’s ESIYA DRAVIDA MUNNERTTA KAZHAGAM!. (DDMK) NO TAMIL NATIONALISM PLEASE!

    But there has been non political but ethnically conscious personalities wedded to Tamil nationalism and even to the cause of separate sovereign Tamil naadu like PaavalarERu PERNUJITHTGHIRANAAR IYAA of THENMOZHI iyakkam. He wanted to use his two journals THEN MOZHI (தென்மொழி ) and THAMIZH CHITTU ( தமிழ்சிட்டு ) published by him but were never poular at all in the increasingly commercialised areana of journals publication. Thiru.PAAVALARERU Iyyaa was a fiery orator and it was his discourse at the historically famous temple of ARULMIGU KARUNAAMBIKAI udanamar AVINAASILINGESURAR at Avinaasi 45 kms east of Coimbatore that made me even replace the totally sanskritised name of my son into a Tamil name after a historical king of Chera dynasty! PAAVALARERU Iyaa was the founder of a global tamil movement by name ULAKATH THAMIZH INA MUNNETRA KAZHAGAM (UTMK) ! The inaugural of this movement was at Periyaar thidal in Chennai and was attended by even the then Leader of Opposition in the Sri Lankan Parliament, aNNan thirumigu..APPAA PILLAI AMIRTHLINGAM and his wife aNNi thirumathi . MANGAYARKKARASI ammaiyaar. He was the Gen Sec of TAMIL UNITED LIBERATION FRONT (TULF) in Sri Lanka which had won 18 seats in the 1977 Patliammentary elections on the plank of separate sovereign THAMIZH EEZHAM put acorss to the tamil voters in tamil regions of the island after the famous VATTOKOOTTAI RESOLUTION (வட்டுக்கோட்டை தீர்மானம் ) of the year 1976 .

    Thiru.Siva chidambaram was the chairman of TULF. It is with extreme anguish that I have to advert here to the tragedy of even the suvae AMIR aNNan and persons like learned lawyer thiru.NEELAN THIRUCHCHELVAM were claimed as victimsby the very cause of the Eezham,libertaion struggle. Let us not go deep into such horror aspects of the struggle.

  348. Though I liked the goal of PaavalaarEru Iyaa to the extent of his seeking to promote tamil language and i did not subcribe to the essence of his aim of separate and sovereign Tamil naadu I was against it. Earlier , in the later 60s after the 1965 ANTI HINDI AGITATION by us as the then College stuents , We were all opposed HINDI imposition but not promotion of tamil in education at all levels .

    Thus when thiru.Maa.Po.SIVAGNGNAA GRAMANIYAAR (மா.பொ.சி ) was promoting the cause of Tamil medium for college education in Tamil naadu, I wrote in the then english evening daily published from Madras as the present Chennai was then, a long letter in english against his cause of Tamil medium for higher education , and ended my letter urging him: “Maa Po Si is least qualified to talk about higher education must refrain from ta;lking about medium education in Colleges”. Thus my ethnic awareness and commitment were very limited then in the 60s. Maa.Po.So too was tamil conscious and tamil nationalists but he and his tamil nationlist moverment too petered out . Too, the same was fate of “NAAM THAMIZHAR IYAKKAM “ ( நாம் தமிழர் இயக்கம் / WE ARE TAMILS MOVEMENT) of Thiru. Si.Paa.AADITHTHANAAR, (சி. பா ஆதித்தனார் ) founder of the popular tamil daily THINATH THANDHI and from naadaar community to which thiru.MUTHTHUKUMAAR who made the supreme sacrifice of laying down his life by self immolation for the cause protecting Eezhamite tamils facing the ruthless genocide by the Colombo and its SLA and assisted by NEW DELHI and connived by even DMK of thiru.Karunaandithi in TN. He was merely whimpering against and feigning protest to such killings. His compulsions and computations were practical and perforce related to the ground realities of politics in TN in the face of forthcoming parliamentary elections here.

  349. Thus there have been visionaries who had felt strong urge for Tamil nationlism in TN in the past and had envisioned for and thought of and tamil sovereignty. Slowly I too got awakened and udersoos how unbridled feelings for Indian nationalism/patriotism and for vedic based and sanskrite promoitng Hindu religious identity were sapping into Tamil identity and were militating against the due place for our laguage in TN! Let me quote the relevant part of a recent editorial under the caption of “சமச்சீரான முடிவு” in the tamil daily DINAMANI dated 28.8.2009 pertaining to the decision of the TN government to implement the scheme for rationalised and equal education for all in TN ! : “தமிழில் படிக்காமல் அல்ல, தமிழே தெரியாமல் தமிழகத்தில் படித்து முனைவர் பட்டம் வரை பெற்றுவிட முடியும் என்கிற நிலைமை ஏற்பட்டுவிட்டது. ஆங்கிலக் கல்வி தேவை என்கிற கோஷத்தால், தமிழ் படிப்பதே கேவலம் என்றும், தமிழ் படிக்கவே வேண்டாம் என்றும் ஒரு நிலைமை ஏற்பட்டுவிட்டதே, இதை என்ன சொல்ல?”
    My reply to the editorial was ditectly related to the ignominious status t of our language THAMIZH in the very soils of Thamzih Naadu! BECAUSE IT IS PART ON A LARGER POLITY OF UNION OF CONSITUTENT STATES , that is UNION OF INDIA which has its own dominant economy and political authority which would overshadow the identity of tamils and development of Tamil language. Hence i reacted in two posyings on 8/28/2009 at 9:45:00 PM and at 9:46:00 PM : “வணக்கம்.என்னை பொறுத்தவரை தினமணி நாளேடு எழுதியுள்ள மேற்படி ஆசிரியவுரையில் மிக கவனமாக அறிய வேண்டியது – “தமிழில் படிக்காமல் அல்ல, தமிழே தெரியாமல் தமிழகத்தில் படித்து முனைவர் பட்டம் வரை பெற்றுவிட முடியும் என்கிற நிலைமை ஏற்பட்டுவிட்டது. ஆங்கிலக் கல்வி தேவை என்கிற கோஷத்தால், தமிழ் படிப்பதே கேவலம் என்றும், தமிழ் படிக்கவே வேண்டாம் என்றும் ஒரு நிலைமை ஏற்பட்டுவிட்டதே, இதை என்ன சொல்ல?” என்ற கருத்துக்கலேயாகும். எதனால் தமிழ் இப்படி கீழ்நிலைக்கு தள்ளப்பட்டுள்ளது? சமச்சீர் கல்வி என்பதுவும் “செம்மொழி” போன்ற ஒரு கனவு திட்டமே. இதனால் எல்லாம் தமிழ் வளராது. வளரவும் செய்யாது. உலகிலேயே நீண்ட வரலாறு உடையவர்களாகிய நமக்கு என்று ஒரு தனி நாடும் அங்கு தமிழில் படித்தவர்களை வேலை பெற வைக்கும் ஒரு தனி பொருளாதாரமும் இயங்கினால் ஒழிய தமிழ் ஒன்று பட்ட இந்தியாவில் எந்த ஒரு கல்வி அடிப்பபடையிலும் உயர்வு பெறவே பெறாது. இதற்கு முதல் படியாக தமிழ் தேசியத்தை வளர்க்க வேண்டும். சாதிகளை ஒழிக்கவேண்டும். தனிச்சுதந்திர நாடொன்று இருந்தால் ஒழிய தமிழ் உயர்வடையாது. பிறநாட்டவர் ஆட்ச்சியில் ஒன்றாக இணைக்கப்பட்டு உருவான இந்த நாடு ஒரு பரிசோதனை அமைப்பேயாகும். அடைந்துள்ள முன்னேரட்டம் அநேகம் உண்டு என்ராலும் நமது சொந்த மொழியையும் அடையாளத்தையும் இழக்கவேண்டி உள்ளது. இதை தினமணி நாளேடு ஏன் வெளிக்காட்ட வில்லை? கண்டிப்பாக ஒன்று பட்ட இந்தியாவில் தமிழர்க்கும் தமிழுக்கும் எதிர்காலமில்லை. பல மொழிகள் பேசப்படும் நாட்டில் ஒரு பெரும் பொருளாதார கட்டுபாட்டுக்குள் அடங்கிய சிறு பொருளாதார அமைப்பில் தமிழர் மேம்பாடு பெற வாய்ப்பே இல்லை. இது நடந்து கொண்டுள்ளது என்பதைதான் நாம் காண்கிறோம்.”

    My further explanation to the last sentence above reading ” இது நடந்து கொண்டுள்ளது என்பதைதான் நாம் காண்கிறோம் will convince thiru.Shankar for his posture in posting no.333:”could you please tell me why you tamils in tamilnadu dont believe in sovereign tamil tamilnadu first. once you get a seperate nation for tamilnadu it will be easier for us to get eelam dont you think. after all you are 65 million and we are only 4 million.”

  350. to comment 418-gadin

    what a sad state of affairs. the virus is spreading and looks like even the last bastion, the courts are also catching the disease.

    dear dbs- if you have the time one day can you write about this poor fellow tissanayagam. let the world know exactly what he wrote to deserve this harsh punishment of 20 years. it could have been you or me or anybody else. everyone in the world has a duty to protect journalists who write the truth. i thought the days of idi amin was well and truly over, or has the world gone backwards since then.

  351. 419. P.Padmanaaabhan
    “MUTHTHUKUMAAR who made the supreme sacrifice of laying down his life by self immolation for the cause protecting Eezhamite Tamils facing the ruthless genocide by the Colombo and its SLA”

    MUTHTHUKUMAAR was a brave, noble, valiant man. His heroic and supreme sacrifice will never be forgotten !!
    The violence is still being used to choke the voices of dissent in Sri Lanka. The editor of the Sunday Leader, a Sri Lankan editor, was shot dead by unidentified gunmen on motorcycles as he drove to work. Following numerous encounters with the government, Lasantha Wickramatunga knew that his life might soon be cut short by those who wished to silence him, yet he pursued and exposed the truth regardless. His death is a great loss for the world of serious journalism. Such treatment of journalists, and those closest to them, has led to a paralysis of the media community in the Sri Lanka. Two trends were noted in a Human Rights Watch resolution on Sri Lanka: lack of press access and independent information flow in the Sri Lanka, assaults on and intimidation of journalists covering the Sri Lanka

  352. http://transcurrents.com/tc/2009/08/post_417.html

    I strongly condemn the judgement handed over in the case of T.S.Tissainayagam.

    The 20 year sentence coming on the heels of Jonathan Miller Channel 4 bombshell is shocking.

    Hats off to Global Media Forum and Reporters Without Borders for the first Peter Mackler Prize to be awarded to T.S.Tissainayagam at the National Press Club in Washington on October, 2, 2009.

  353. vaNakkam, thiru.Shankar, Gadkin and others here. To continue from where I left in my previous posting , before I could further explain to thiru Shankar anent his proposition, inter alia , that “first. once you get a seperate nation for tamilnadu it will be easier for us to get eelam dont you think. after all you are 65 million and we are only 4 million ( vide his posting no.333), let me add further to the point that we , the Tamils , in Tamil Naadu have let down our language, identity and the very spirit to protect and ;promote them. I happened to read the news of the Honourbale Minister for education thiru.THENNARASU at the meeting held in NEW DELHI of the NATINAL ADVISORY BOARD FOR EDUCATION in Dinamnai and Dinamlar Tamil dailies dated 1st sep 09 and i quote the following from the reported speech by him: தினமணி வலைத்தள பதிப்பிலிருந்து :””நாடு முழுவதும் மாணவர்களுக்கு ஹிந்தி கற்பிக் க வேண்டும்” என்று மத்திய மனிதவள மேம்பாட்டுத் துறை அமைச்சர் கபில் சிபல் சமீபத்தில் கருத்து தெரிவித்திருந்தார். இந்த நிலையில் தில்லியில் திங்கள்கிழமை நடைபெற்ற கல்விக்கான மத்திய ஆலோசனை குழுவின் 56-வது கூட்டத்தில் பேசிய தங்கம் தென்னரசு, “”தமிழக அரசு இரு மொழி கொள்கையையே பின்பற்றும். 3-வது மொழி குழந்தைகளுக்கு சுமையாக அமையும்” என்றார். கூட்டத்தில் மேலும் அவர் பேசியது: “”ஹிந்தி மொழி பேசாத மாநிலங்களில் ஹிந்தி கட்டாயமாக திணிக்கப்படாது” என்று முதல் பிரதமர் ஜவாஹர்லால் நேரு அளித்த உறுதி மொழியை மத்திய அரசு காப்பாற்ற வேண்டும். தமிழக அரசு இரு மொழி கொள்கையைப் பின்பற்றி வருகிறது. முதல் மொழியாக தாய் மொழியும், இரண்டாவதாக ஆங்கிலமும் இருக்க வேண்டும் என்பதே தமிழக அரசின் கொள்கை. ஆங்கிலம் உலக அளவில் தொடர்பு மொழியாக உள்ளது. அதோடு நவீன அறிவியல் தொழில்நுட்பங்களை அறிந்து கொள்ளவும், தகவல் தொழில்நுட்பத் துறையில் எளிதில் வேலை பெறவும் ஆங்கிலம் அவசியமாகிறது. மூன்றாவது மொழியை பள்ளிகளில் அறிமுகப்படுத்தினால் அது நமது குழந்தைகளுக்கு மிகவும் சுமையாக அமைந்துவிடும்.”
    தினமலர் அச்சு (கோயமுத்தூர்) பதிப்பு பக்கம் நான்கு- (தமிழில் உள்ளவைகளை இங்கே ஆங்கிலத்தில் தருகிறேன், ஏனெனில் வலைத்தள பதிப்பு தினமலர் ஏட்டில் இச்செய்தி இடம்பெறவில்லை) :” “ Two language formula is in vogue in TN. English helps our children to get educated to attain high status in science and technology at global level and to converse. Therefore the third ;language is a burden to the children. Hence Tkamizhagam did not accept three language formula. The assurance of former prime minister Nehru that Hindi would not be imposed on non Hindi speaking states is important. Hindi and English are in use in the sectors of staff selection commission, railways and banking service examinations. Only English lends helping hand in such examinations for people from non Hindi speaking states like Thamizhgam. Only because of use of English in such examinations one could experience the status of equality all over country”.

  354. THUS , TAMIL LANGUAGE HAS NO PRACTICAL USAGE OF LIFE SUPPORTING FOR TMILIANS IN TAMIL NAADU WHICH IS PART OF INDIAN UNION! They have begun abandoning the use of their language in their state owing to the pressure of current economic survival. This situation of economic survival is the foremost concern of them . Exception are there and there are people who care for and committed to the Tamil identity and the language. I have already cited thiru.MUTHTHUKUMAAR AND OTHERS WHO SELF IOMMOLATED TO LEND SUPPORT TO THE EEZHAMITE TAMILS. I can also cite here an experience I had last night (1st Sep 09) at a massive wedding reception in Coimbatore. In this family of four brothers, except the last one the rest have had no formal education. The family belongs to rural based backward class and came over to Coimbatore some 45 years. The first of four sons resolved to educate atleast the last one of them who was still young and they wanted the last of them to go to job for dignified and comfortable living . The third one joined a cootton spinning Mills to work. The first two engaged themselves in the trade of selling fruits to homes in select residential areas of Coimbatore.

    The mighty force of TIME ( u may call it GOD, the SUPREME) had entirely different plan for this family of four brothers of emulative cooperation and coordination. In the mid 70s of last century the first two brothers switched over from routine sales of fruits to individual residences in select areas from hand pulled carts to a fixed place marketing of fruits in a residential area of Raththina Sabaapathi Puram inhabited by economically well off people. It was in 1975 and since then there was no turning back to the brothers. WHAT IS RELEVANT HERE IN THE BROTHERS HAD SPONTANEOUS:LY CHOSEN THE 100% TAMIL NAME OF “PAZHAMUDIR NILAYAM” (பழமுதிர் நிலையம் ) TO THEIR BUSINESS VENTURE of fruits marketing. In the next foor decades the PAZHAMUDIR brothers have come to own a chain of fruits and veg supermarkets in Coimbaore, Tiruppur, Chennai, Erode, Karur, KumbaKonam , Pondichery etc. In TN the words PAZHAMUDIR NILAYAM ( பழமுதிர் நிலையம்) are synonym for veg and fruits super marketing. That is sale of the two commodities in fashionable display like clothes and grocieries. More people who have opted these days to this trade in Coimbatore, Chennai and other places have indeed adopted this name only. Whereas thesedays 95% of families which celebrate weddings use ONLY English to display the names of the young man and woman who in the boards at the entrance , this family perforce used Tamil too in equal size letters everywhere. I was stunned to read a small board of direction to and location of BUFFET HALL in tamil too as “தேர்ந்துண்ணும் கூடம்”, that is a place where the guests could choose and eat. There they had offered a main course dinner comprising 44 items , 5 deserts and five sweets!! In adherence of my policy of NOT to feast when my kinsmen in thousands are cruelly incarcerated, I simply avoided the main course, sweets and desserts . i opted to eat in diet section and my choices were juts two dry chappaththis and 4 ;pieces of paNiyaarams. When i left the marriage reception at 08:50 PM i met the the father of the groom thiru.Raththinam , referrerd him the choice of tamil words “தேர்ந்துண்ணும் கூடம்” and using it on the occasion. Everywhere Tamil found its due place.

  355. But given the milieu of an ongoing massive and myriad development and economic, activities in TN, being and as part of UNION OF INDIA, the above example of patronsing Tamil language is a very rare one indeed! Take the full page advertisement in the same DINAMALR daily at page 4 dated 1.09.2009 (Coimbatore edition) for the inauguration of an engineering college. In tamil daily the ad is wholly in English and the only tamil word kuththuviLakku (குத்துவிளக்கு ) too is read in English alphabets. This engineering college is promoted by an industrial house known as “KPR”. Though this group also belongs to the same community people with tamilas their mother tongue, the promtors are not at all bothered about patronising their own mother language as far as possible. THIS IS THE SAD AND TRAGIC TRUTH with 98% of rich and affluent in TN ! On the occasion of the inauguration KPR engineering college the English ad in tamil daily refers to the names those already in the business of education (!). the names of each such persons is porefxied by NLOT tamil word “Thiru” but the sanskrit one of “Shri.” Thus under the heading of felicitations are read : shri.G.Rangasamy Managing director. PSG Institutions; Shri.V.Elangovan , SNQS International Tiruppur; Shri.”Saravana” N.Krishnasamy , President -valam , Tiruppur; Shri. ‘VIKING’ AC Easwaran, President –SIHMA Tiruppur. Thne lighting of Kuththu viLakku by Shrimathi.R.nandhini, Secretray, PSGR Krishnammal College for Women, Coimbatore. Then the ad reads the name of Shri.Dr.G.Viswanathan , Chancellor. VIT University, Vellore. as the chief guest to inaugurate “KPR Institute of Engineering & Technology”. Then another name occurs of Shri.Dr.S.V.Balasubramaniam. Chairman. Bannaari Amman group of Industries as chief guest to inaugurate KPR School of Business. The time of occasion was 08:30 am on 1st sep 09. Of these perosnalties , Dr.G.Viswanathan has associated with promotion of tamil and he has done what he felt was possible by him to support the Eezham tamils. Becasue he comes from Dravidian politics and parties and moved away from politicas to education business. He was MP too.His VIT empire is a model institutions for private educational service at a COST/for a price which NOT all could afford. I must also make mention of Dr.S.V.B of Bannari AMMAN Group for his tamil consciousness. He had been invited by the US based Federation of Tamils Association of North America to be felicitated as a very successful tamilian industrialist . He obeserevd then in the US on the said occasion that children born and brought up in the USA beautifully rendered the Thamizh thaai vaazhthhu (தமிழ்த்தாய் வாழ்த்து ) starting with “neeraarum kadaluduththa” (நீராரும் கடலுடுத்த ) . In his interview to THE HINDU he had mentiend and regretted that the children in TN can not do it. Why ?And more later pleaes. My time at this monet of 10:05 AM IST is over to upload here .

  356. Dear friends , there has been references to by quotes above from DINAMANI tamil daily news paper editorial on the the educational reform envisioning implementation by stages of standardisation of school education in TN. English medium education is gaining popularity and this makes inroads into the peoples’ duty to support tamil medium education for the growing generation of Tamil children in Tamil Naadu. But TN Govt itself is in support of English medium education for children in Tamil naadu and this I proved in my posting no 425 above by quoting the Honble Minister of EducationThiru.THENNARASU at formal meeting in NEW DELHI.

    Now I have the reaction of the interests group of Association of Matriculation Schools in TN, as told to the journal JUNIOR VIKATAN dated 06:09:2009 released in sale to readers all overTtamil Naadu today by news paper stalls . I have bought the JV , KUMUDAM REPORTER dated 6.9.09, KUMUDAM dated 09.09.09 and AANANDA VIKATAN dated 09.09.09. At page 19 under caption “சமச்சீர் கல்வி டூப்பு ..மெட்ரிக் தான் டாப்பு!” (standardised education is fake ..Matric education is top, that is English medium education is higher than the proposed standardised education), comments elicited from Thiru.T.T.Arasu, Patron of Matric schools association and from Thiru. Dr.Ramachandran, Gen Sec of the Association are published . They have said and i quote :”If the policy decision of standardised education ,which is not adopted and pursued in any other state is imposed here, we will have to revert to the stone age.Our calculation is the whole scheme of standardised education would be in tamil medium . The situation deteriorated in countries like China, Japan and France. These countries learned the lessons rather late and now have given due importance to English medium education. (This is very bold lie by the Association representatives. School education in these unilingual countries ion only Chinese , Japanese and French. -Padmanaabhan). Why does the Govt of Tamil Naadu choose to experiment with such a poisonous scheme by iyts own money? .. Whereas 80% of the public in the districts ( of TN) have opposed the standardised education scehme. The govt of Tn has ignored this and claimed deceptively that there has been widespread support to the scheme. On the whole these are humbugs. Each year only the matric educated students alone score more success in the competitive examination for top ;posts like IAS and IPS. (This is not wholly correct inasmuch as tamil medium educated students too succeed in UPSC examinations for admisntrative posts but English is a compulsory paper in such examination and admittedly English medium educated would have obvious advantage over tami medium educated ones-Padmanaabhan) . If the govt still pesrsist to get the scheme implement implemented , there is other oprtion to us than to seek to bridle the govt by a court order “ the representatives fiercely say”

    SO THE SITUATION IS TAMIL IN TAMIL NAADU IS NOT MUCH WANTED BY TAMILIANS ! Soon , in a generation or two Tamil may NOT be wanted at all. Then , how to inspire these people to demand sovereign Tamil Naadu?

    . I will add more illustrations and demonstarte to you cogently that for all such reasons whole heartedly, people like me in TN supported the Eezham .liberation. PLEASE BE PATIENT TO KNOW THAT WE IN TAMIL NAADU WERE NOT AMISS TO HAVE SUPPORTED OUR EEZHAM BRETHREN IN THEIR STRUGGLE TO RE$STORE THEIR SOVEREIGN EEZHAM!

    may i leave u all here this night at 10:15 PM IST on 2nd Sep 09

  357. to comment 428-padmanaaban

    you ask how to inspire tamilnadu people to demand sovereign tamilnadu. my earlier question to you was if they dont want a seperate state for tamilnadu why are they inspiring us to demand seperate state here. see what they have done. they have put all of us into tents. can you live in these flooded tents even for one week without a heart attack.

  358. to comment 428
    padnamabaa it is very easy to sit in tamil nadu or toronto in luxury and call for tamizh only mythical state of peelam.
    but it is the innocent tamizhs who have to suffer for your greed for land. i do not know you but judging from some of what you have said you seem to be an upper caste type tamizh who expects the “lower cast” eastern tamizhs to die for your mythical cause…..
    you have written that recently you took your daughters to get their ears pierced…..ask yourself this question, if Velu P comes in the middle of the night to forcibly recruit your daughters will you give them up….there are many tamizh parents in the vanni who couldn’t get their daughters ears pierced because Velu P dragged them off and handed them cyanide pills bought and paid for with diaspora money…..
    you diaspora guys need to realize that the nation of sri-lanka is not willing to compromise on the peelam issue. i understand that some of you are not willing to compromize either. but you need to be pragmatic, are you willing to sacrifice the innocent tamizhs of sri-lanka for another 30 years so that your greed for land and revenge is satisfied? make no mistake the nation of sri-lanka is willing to go another 30 year cycle to ensure our safety and security.
    we have learnt that terrorism can be crushed and if faced with terrorism again all we need to do is repeat the lessons of 2009…….
    do you know the easiest way to get the IDPs out of the camps? get your bhoys to give up up our demand for peelam, renounce terrorism and apologise to the people of sri-lanka. once the sri-lankan nation is assured of our security there is no need to keep the IDPs in the camps to weed out terrorists now is there. If you cannot do that don’t expect normal sri-lankans to ask the GOSl to free the IDPs…..we cannot risk a bunch filthy terrorists (hiding amongst the IDPs) to go suicide bombing again…..
    so padnanabaa the question to ask yourself is.this…if Velu P comes in the middle of the night to recruit your daughters for the peelam cause will you sacrifise them? just like the innocent tamizhs in sri-lanka have had to sacrifice……make no mistake about this if we are faced with another filthy 30 year terrorist cycle, my sons will be fighting in the SLA….the nation of Sri-Lanka is not going to compromise about this Peelam myth.

  359. 428. P.Padmanaaabhan
    “..people like me in TN supported the Eezham liberation. PLEASE BE PATIENT TO KNOW THAT WE IN TAMIL NAADU WERE NOT AMISS TO HAVE SUPPORTED OUR EEZHAM BRETHREN IN THEIR STRUGGLE TO RE$STORE THEIR SOVEREIGN EEZHAM! “
    Thanks a lot for your kind thought s, which you expressed so tenderly. They deeply touched me, Thiry Padmanaaabhan. For many of your Hindu Tamil brothers and sisters in Sri Lanka -the feelings are mutual.
    The sorry saga … The government continues to intimidate and prosecute the journalists in Sri Lanka.
    It’s latest victim is Tamil, J.S. Tissainayagam, the editor of news web site OutreachSL, who recently was jailed to 20 years in prison under anti-terrorism laws for criticizing the government. In my opinion , these harsh sentence came from the Sri Lanka President Mahinda’s Office – not from the court. The furore distracts attention from the core issue of the 300 000 internees in the concentration camps. Just what did Tissainayagam write? In July 2006 he wrote in North Eastern Monthly “Providing security to Tamils now will define northeastern politics of the future it is fairly obvious that the Government is not going to offer them any protection. In fact it is the state security forces that are the main perpetrator of the killings”. In November 2006 he wrote “With no military options Government buys time by offering watered-down devolution. Such offensives against the civilians are accompanied by attempts to starve the population by refusing them food as well as medicines and fuel”. 20 years imprisonment for this? For these 2 articles? But then Tissainayagam is Tamil and as the recently retired Chief Justice after a visit to the camps said “(minority) Tamils will not receive protection in Sri Lanka”

  360. vaNakkam, Thiru.Shankar ,Thiru Gadgin and others.

    Kindly read ur earlier question in posting 333:’ ” could you please tell me why you tamils in tamilnadu dont believe in sovereign tamil tamilnadu first. once you get a seperate nation for tamilnadu it will be easier for us to get eelam dont you think. after all you are 65 million and we are only 4 million. ” But CURRENTLY u have aqsked in posting 429 above: : “ you ask how to inspire tamilnadu people to demand sovereign tamilnadu. my earlier question to you was if they dont want a seperate state for tamilnadu why are they inspiring us to demand seperate state here. see what they have done. they have put all of us into tents. can you live in these flooded tents even for one week without a heart attack”

    There is a serious and vital difference , Shankar. How old r u? Were u alive then and aware of the VATTUKOOTAI RESULTION of 1976? It was NOT passed in Tamil Naadu by the Tamils here! Were u qualified to vote in the 1977 parliamentray elections in the island? Did u vote for the TULF from the tamil speaking regions of the island from where the TULF had contested on the plank of seperate AND SPOVEE4IGN Thamizh Eezham? “Eezham Gandhi” Thanthi SJV SELVNAYAKAM visited us in Tamil Naadu and asked for the moral and political support to achieve their political rights and goals against the oppressive and repressive majority Sinhalese. The discriminatoty and repressive majority in the island had thrown to winds all three solemenly signed agreements with Thiru.SJV SELVANAAYAKAM! Did not they Shankar. Were u alive then at all? U please the pages of hansard ( records of sri lankan parliament for the relevant period . U would know how the brutal majority Singhalese were uncompromising and had been taunting you for all your deamands for political rights . THE TULF WERE VOTED BY THE ETHNIC TAMILS IN 18 CONSTITUENCIES TO WIN IN THE ELECTIONS ABD BECAME THE MAIN OPPOSTION PARTY AND Thiru.A.AMIRTHALINGAM BECAME LEADER OF OPPOSITION AND HELD THE RANK OF AS CABINET MINISTER AND WAS ISSUED A DIPLOMATIC PAASPORT. He had ferquented Tamil Naadu and NEW DELHI and requested for support moral and diplomatic support to their casue. When tmt.Indira Gandhi was the PM and thiru.MGR was the CM, the GOI supported armed Tamil groups to fight against the repressive Sinahelse Govt of the then Presidient H.E.Jayawardene. I can keep going Shankar. Realstically and succinctly trhe awakened section of Tamils in tamil naadu felt we owed a duty to support our kinsmen sufferings under the oppressive maority regime. THEY WERE NOT ENTILED TO NUMERICAL MAJORITY BASED DISCRIMNATORY REIGN RE PRESSIVE OF MINORITY TAMILS. Prolonged discrimination resulted in demand for separate Tahmizh Eezham and the ethnixc tamils were by all modern political norms and on the AND INDEPENDENT THAMIZH EEZHAM , For after all very Sinhalee govt had released a commemorative postal stamp to honour the fisrt arrival in boats of the Prince Vjijayaa from overhanging Indian sub continent. The Sinahelse are descendants of the Prince. If so, even admitting that the anecstors of the present ethnic tamils too had reached the island during historical times, and had established themselves within well defined terrritories as human society of exclusive socio, religious and cultural practices including building temples, (Ramayana says King Raavanaa was a saivite devotee of Lord Shivaa !) , spoke their own exclusive language and had their own monarchical reign in such areas, at a later point of time they were FULLY entitled to get their sovereignty restored to them which was lost due to and by the merger with singahlese areas brought about by colonial powers from Europe. Thus, Shankar, please refrain from asmkhin immature questions Sir. Our support to you is moral and justifiedas the supprot of the Black Africa to the cause of the fight against apartheid by While monority in South Africa. The Front Line countries (consisting of Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Tanzania, Zambia, Zimbabwe. ) did every possible assitance to AFRICAN NATIONAL CONGRESS of thiru.NELSON MANDELA. He knew the pains of repression and oppressions. Today u find sumpathy and support from his ANC to ur cause and political struggle. THAT IS HOW WE , that is people like , in tamil naadu has been and would be consistent in our support to our ethnic kinsmen in the island. The Arabs have stood by their Palestenians in their struggle for an independent Palestine ! ,

  361. vaNakkam, Thiru.Shankar ,Thiru Gadgin and others.
    Shankar, kindly read ur earlier question in posting 333: ” could you please tell me why you tamils in tamilnadu dont believe in sovereign tamil tamilnadu first. once you get a seperate nation for tamilnadu it will be easier for us to get eelam dont you think. after all you are 65 million and we are only 4 million. ” But CURRENTLY u have aqsked in posting 429 above: : you ask how to inspire tamilnadu people to demand sovereign tamilnadu. my earlier question to you was if they dont want a seperate state for tamilnadu why are they inspiring us to demand seperate state here. see what they have done. they have put all of us into tents. can you live in these flooded tents even for one week without a heart attack.

    There is a serious and vital difference . Shankar. How old r u? Were u alive then and aware of the VATTUKOTTAI RESOLUTION of 1976? It was NOT passed in Tamil Naadu by the Tamils here! Were u qualified to vote in the 1977 parliamentray elections in the island? Did u vote for the TULF from the tamil speaking regions of the island from where the TULF had contested on the plank of seperate AND SPOVEE4IGN Thamizh Eezham? Eezham Gandhi Thanthi SJV SELVNAYAKAM visited us in Tamil Naadu and asked for the moral and political support to achieve their political rights and goals against the oppressive and repressive majority Sinhalese. The discriminatoty and repressive majority in the island had thrown to winds all three solemenly signed agreements with Thiru.SJV SELVANAAYAKAM! Did not they Shankar. Were u alive then at all? U please refere to the pages of hansard ( records of sri lankan parliament for the relevant period ). U would know how the brutal majority Singhalese were uncompromising and had been taunting you for all your deamands for political rights . THE TULF WERE VOTED BY THE ETHNIC TAMILS IN 18 CONSTITUENCIES TO WIN IN THE ELECTIONS ABD BECAME THE MAIN OPPOSTION PARTY AND Thiru.A.AMIRTHALINGAM BECAME LEADER OF OPPOSITION AND HELD THE RANK OF AS CABINET MINISTER AND WAS ISSUED A DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT.

    He had frequented Tamil Naadu and NEW DELHI and requested for support moral and diplomatic support to their casue. When tmt.Indira Gandhi was the PM and thiru.MGR was the CM, the GOI supported armed Tamil groups to fight against the repressive Sinahelse Govt of the then Presidient H.E.Jayawardene. I can keep going Shankar. Realstically and succinctly trhe awakened section of Tamils in tamil naadu felt we owed a duty to support our kinsmen sufferings under the oppressive maority regime. THEY WERE NOT ENTILED TO NUMERICAL MAJORITY BASED DISCRIMNATORY REIGN OF REPRESSION OF MINORITY TAMILS. Prolonged discrimination resulted in demand for separate Tahmizh Eezham and the ethnix tamils were by all modern political norms and on the basis of their history are entitled to independent THAMIZH EEZHAM.
    For , after all the very Sinhalee govt had released a commemorative postal stamp to honour the fisrt arrival in boats of the Prince Vjijayaa from overhanging Indian sub continent. The Sinahelse are descendants of the Prince. If so, even admitting that the ancestors of the present ethnic tamils of the island too had reached there during historical times from the tamil land above them thye too had established themselves within well defined terrritories as a distinct human society of exclusive socio, religious and cultural practices including building temples, (Ramayanam says King Raavanaa was a saivite devotee of Lord Shivaa !) , spoke their own exclusive language and had their own monarchical reign in such areas. At a later point of time thus thye are FULLY entitled to get their sovereignty restored to them , lost due to and by the merger with singahlese areas brought about by colonial powers from Europe. Thus, Shankar, please refrain from asking unnecessary and even immature questions, Sir.

  362. vaNakkam, Thiru.Shankar ,Thiru Gadgin and others.
    Shankar, kindly read ur earlier question in posting 333:’ ” could you please tell me why you tamils in tamilnadu dont believe in sovereign tamil tamilnadu first. once you get a seperate nation for tamilnadu it will be easier for us to get eelam dont you think. after all you are 65 million and we are only 4 million. ” But CURRENTLY u have aqsked in posting 429 above: : “ you ask how to inspire tamilnadu people to demand sovereign tamilnadu. my earlier question to you was if they dont want a seperate state for tamilnadu why are they inspiring us to demand seperate state here. see what they have done. they have put all of us into tents. can you live in these flooded tents even for one week without a heart attack.
    There is a serious and vital difference . Shankar. How old r u? Were u alive then and aware of the VATTUKOTTAI RESOLUTION of 1976? It was NOT passed in Tamil Naadu by the Tamils here! Were u qualified to vote in the 1977 parliamentray elections in the island? Did u vote for the TULF from the tamil speaking regions of the island from where the TULF had contested on the plank of seperate AND SPOVEE4IGN Thamizh Eezham? “Eezham Gandhi” Thanthi SJV SELVNAYAKAM visited us in Tamil Naadu and asked for the moral and political support to achieve their political rights and goals against the oppressive and repressive majority Sinhalese. The discriminatoty and repressive majority in the island had thrown to winds all three solemenly signed agreements with Thiru.SJV SELVANAAYAKAM! Did not they Shankar. Were u alive then at all? U please refere to the pages of hansard ( records of sri lankan parliament for the relevant period ). U would know how the brutal majority Singhalese were uncompromising and had been taunting you for all your deamands for political rights . THE TULF WERE VOTED BY THE ETHNIC TAMILS IN 18 CONSTITUENCIES TO WIN IN THE ELECTIONS ABD BECAME THE MAIN OPPOSTION PARTY AND Thiru.A.AMIRTHALINGAM BECAME LEADER OF OPPOSITION AND HELD THE RANK OF AS CABINET MINISTER AND WAS ISSUED A DIPLOMATIC PAASPORT.
    He had ferquented Tamil Naadu and NEW DELHI and requested for support moral and diplomatic support to their casue. When tmt.Indira Gandhi was the PM and thiru.MGR was the CM, the GOI supported armed Tamil groups to fight against the repressive Sinahelse Govt of the then Presidient H.E.Jayawardene. I can keep going Shankar. Realstically and succinctly trhe awakened section of Tamils in tamil naadu felt we owed a duty to support our kinsmen sufferings under the oppressive maority regime. THEY WERE NOT ENTILED TO NUMERICAL MAJORITY BASED DISCRIMNATORY REIGN OF REPRESSION OF MINORITY TAMILS. Prolonged discrimination resulted in demand for separate Tahmizh Eezham and the ethnix tamils were by all modern political norms and on the basis of their history are entitled to independent THAMIZH EEZHAM.

  363. to comment 432 -gadin

    the cowardly judge who gave this sentence was so worried about her safety that when she found that on the day she was to go to court to give the sentence, the security was not coming due to a vehicle repair, panicked and gave frantic calls to the police chief, even threatening that all the calls are being recorded. a bully is also a coward.

  364. 432. Gadin:

    food as well as medicines and fuel”. 20 years imprisonment for this?

    At least, after seen all those barrels of fuel that got unearthed in Wanni and medicines that were tossed about inside hospitals after capture we all know that this is damn lie.

  365. dear padmanaaban

    amirthalingam was not a responsible leader. when he used to go abroad he would sign blank letterheads and go. a vote for him does not mean a vote for eelam. other than the TULF there was nobody else to vote for. he created prabhakaran and thoght he could use him. what happenned. frankenstein turned on the master. master gone . monster gone. we are in tents. since you supported both of them, at least one million of you can march to newdelhi from tamilnadu and get us out of this water.

    ps-as for my earlier question you are right it is different in words but same in spirit. my earlier queston was based on the statement you made that tamilnadu people are all supporting eelam. the present queston is also based on that statement of yours you see.

  366. 436. shankar:

    What is the logic in blaming the judge or the jury in this case? All they do is pass a decision according to the law of the land based on evidence presented to them. If at all, you should blame the legislature for enacting this type of laws and for the police if they have cooked up evidence.

    I have no sympathy for people who support terrorists regardless of whether they are directly engaged in violence or not. There are many in this country who for their own personal gain side with external forces without any remorse for the people of this land.

    Quite frankly, I’m not aware of what the evidence is against JST. However, if he has violated the law, then he has violated the law and it is irrelevant who he is by profession.

    Instead of turning this into an issue of media freedom what parties interested ought to do is to disprove charges against him according to the proper procedure and sue for compensation later. Since JST s lawyers have already said that they would appeal against this decision, we have to wait and see what the outcome of that step would be.

  367. Sorry friends , I find that duplications in my postings which occurred due to some technical snag by which i did not find my posting no.443 appear in the blog, I feared the length was the problem . I pruned the same and uploaded again and again and finally all of them apeared .!! really sorry and hence let me conitinue from my posting no. 435.For continuity i have re-posted part of text from posting no. 434:

    “For , after all the very Sinhalee govt had released a commemorative postal stamp to honour the fisrt arrival in boats of the Prince Vjijayaa from overhanging Indian sub continent. The Sinahelse are descendants of the Prince. If so, even admitting that the ancestors of the present ethnic tamils of the island too had reached there during historical times from the tamil land above them thye too had established themselves within well defined terrritories as a distinct human society of exclusive socio, religious and cultural practices including building temples, (Ramayanam says King Raavanaa was a saivite devotee of Lord Shivaa !) , spoke their own exclusive language and had their own monarchical reign in such areas. At a later point of time thus thye are FULLY entitled to get their sovereignty restored to them , lost due to and by the merger with singahlese areas brought about by colonial powers from Europe. Thus, Shankar, please refrain from asking unnecessary and even immature questions, Sir.”

    the following is rest from my draft discontinued in the morning.

    Our support to you is moral and justified as the support of the Black Africa to the cause of the fight against apartheid by While minority in South Africa. The Front Line countries (consisting of Angola, Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Tanzania, Zambia, Zimbabwe. ) did every possible assitance to AFRICAN NATIONAL CONGRESS of thiru.NELSON MANDELA. He knew the pains of repression and oppressions. Today u find sympathy and support from his ANC to your cause. In the same way we in tamil naadu , who developed high ethnic consciousness and commitments have been and would be consistent in our support to our ethnic kinsmen in the island. The Arabs have stood by their Palestenians in their struggle for an independent Palestine !.Periodically Israeli aggression, bulldozing and bombing have been there on Palestinian soils. But the Pals do not fidn fault with their fellow Arabs outside Palestine .
    Now , why the Tamils in Tamil Naadu do not think to get a sovereign and independent State for them is being replied in details in my postings so far and I will complete this part in two or three there postings. .
    THERFORE PLEASE DO NOT SEEK TO FIX WHOLLY THE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE DEFEAT OF LTTE TO US , that is , to committed Tamils like me or thiru.Pazha Nedumaaran Iyya . Thiru.Pazha NEDUMAARAN has never swerved from his support to Eezhamite tamils.
    That 3 laks of our Eezahmkite Tamil kinsmen are in war camps and thousands more of Eezhamite Tamils lost their lives in the last phase of genocidal campaign by the SLA early this year and in the preceding months of 2008 are consequences due to a variety of political reasons and on account of so many changes in the political ground realities globally , in India and in tamil naadu in particular in the last 20 years . MGR is no more there. Following his death , selvi JJ took over reins of AIADMK. Coalition politics and power sharing at the Centre came to be practised in India. The AIADMK and DMK has been vying with each other to be in the company of the parties like Congress and BJP to ger a share in the Union Govt. They have savoured the power at union level and making of huge amounts in thousands of crores by getting powerful ministries like surface road transport or telecommunication etc . Having been in power for nearly more than 4 decades in the State , the Dravidian parties, the fucntionaries at all levels of parties have all learned to make money while holding party offices or when their party is in power. India being a democratic and welfare State , the whole of the country is being taken through a huge change in life style of living by its people. Even daily wage earners can have mobile phones . Tv channels show the tickling entertainments. Cinemas show young girls performing tickling dances and atleast one kuththu paattu (குத்து பாட்டு ) is a must. Communication , Transport and road facilities have reached even remote villages like mine. Politicians in power and others who have made money already by other ways of commerce, trade and industry can make more by promoting engineering, medical and arts and science colleges. A seat in a private medical college ranges from 30 to 50 lakhs depending on the choice of colleges

  368. Likewise, seats for engineering and MBA studies also fetch the promoters prices in lakhs but lesser than medical seats. In short the political and economic milieu in the Indian polity and in Tamil naadu in particular are vastly different today from what obtained in the 60s, 70s and 80s of the last century when u found extraordinary support to ur cause of separate ands sovereign Thamizh Eezham. Some like me me have NOT changed even an iota in our emotional support to Eezhamite tamils. BUT THE POLITICANS OF THE STATURE of the Honble CM of TN are not the same. Aged he is, his agenda for his rest of life are totally different – his party, the places for his family , how to retain power if his party is already in power .

    His nephew and former Union Minister for Commrce Thiru. .Murasoli Maaran had in the past some ideological commitment. He wrote two volumes of books defining State Automony (மாநில சுயாட்சி) But his two sons, thiru Kaalaandihi Maaran and Thiru.Dhayaanidhi Maaran are totally different and are merely money and power hungry.. The eldest and fisrt of the Maarans , begun teliviosn business and has built a media empire with journal like KUNGUMAM and THINKARAN tamil daily with editions in all key towns in TN. The younger one, thiru. Dhyaanidhi Maaran was intiated into power and money politics by none other than his thaaththaa (தாத்தா/grandpa) Thiru.MK! Even to start with he was given the Union cabinet berth with Information and telecommunication portfolio. He held this cabinet office till he and his elder fell out with their thaaththaa which claimaxed in their publishing a survey in their tamild aily DHINAKARAN showing thiru.Alagiri (the elder son of thiru.MK and now Union Minister for Chemicals/Fertilisers) lesser in popularity than the younger son thiru.Stalin who is now the Deputy Cm of TN.

    Such manipulations by the Marans cost the younger one his cabinet post. But soon political compulsions exigencies arose compelling the both groups to patch and they did. Thiru.D.Maran is Union Minister again. Please note that his wife comes from the THE HINDU family and a niece of thiru. Raam who is very close to none other thiru.Raajapakshe. Will be the Maarns ever be supportive of Eezham? Shankar such is the ground situation of TN politics.

    Under the circumstances , the Sri Lankan President H.E. Rajapakshe made a variety of shrewd moves to opt for war to terminate the liberation struggle of the Tamils. He realised in TN, from where alone real support to Eezham cause could come forth, political equations had changed to the advantage of Colombo. For instance the DMK for holding power in the State had to depend on Congress MLAs under control from their party headquarters in NEW DELHI. Thiru.MK of late has NEVER been keen to support Eezham and would in any case would not like LTTE to win the cause and establish a sovereign Tamil Eezham. Himself aged and having passed the active days of support to Eezham cause while MGR was live in order to portray himself to be the most ardent and reliable man for the cause of upholding tamil identity in the face of a massive image of MGR in TN , is LEAST concerned about Eezham. May I please advert to the relevant question and his answer at page 86 of current KUMUDAM Tamil weekly journal dated 09.09.09: The question in an interview with him by the correspondent of the journal Thiru.Thiruvengimalai Sravanan is : “நீங்களும் மத்திய அரசும் நினைத்திருந்தால் விடுதலை புலிகளுக்கு இந்த முடிவு ஏற்ப்பட்டு இருக்காது என்றும் ஒரு குற்றச்சாட்டு இருக்கிறது. அதற்க்கு தங்கள் பதில் என்ன?” (There is an accusation that if u and Central govt had thought of it, LTTE would not have faced this end” ) . The CM thiru MK’s reply: “மத்திய அரசின் கருத்துக்கள் ஏற்கப்படாவிட்டாலும்; -நான் மதிக்கப்படாவிட்டாலும்; இந்த முடிவு ஏற்பட்டு இருக்க கூடாது” (Though the central govt’s stand is not acceptable and myself not respected, this end ought not to have been there). Ha..ha..haa ..anyway let us be grateful to him for his sympathy to the slain LTTE soldiers !! .

    I may add one more bit of news to u Shankar. Is it possible to u to view Kalaingnar or Kalaingnar Seithigal tv channels telecast to us here in TN. In both channels , ads for MURASOLI news paper ( the official organ of DMK under the control Thiru.MK regualry occur and u may read the following slogan appearing on the logo (of a man taming the Bull) of the news paper: “வீழ்வது நாமாக இருப்பினும், வாழ்வது தமிழாக இருக்கட்டும்’ !! See how he is emotionally and factually cheating us ! I quoted above ( vide my posting no. 425 ) how his education minster defended English medium education in TN which is destroying emotional attachment in tamil children to their own language. Again , I must mention here that here in South india , in the neighbouring state of Andhra Pradesh its CM thiru.YSR Reddy died in a helicopter crash on the morning of 2nd Sep 09 . The crash site located, debris found and bodies recovered only on the morning of 3 Sep 09). from 08:30 AM onwards. TN CM thiru.MK has perforce in courtesy said, as were read in his Kalaingnar TV running news, inter alia , that “இந்திய திருநாட்டிற்கு ஒரு பேரிழப்பு “. He ordered national flag be flown at half mast. Too, he has directed his senior Minister of telegu origin thiru.Aarkkadu VEERAASAAMY and daughter tmt.Knaimozhi MP to represent the state in the funeral ceremonies tomorrow. He has also claimed the late CM of neighbouring Andhra Pradesh to be of “‘என் ஆருயிர் நண்பர்” .He has ordered a holiday on 4th Sep to be a mourning day.

  369. I have no second opinion in the matter of having good relationship with the neighbouring states . But thiru.MK is timely and wily. May be, such are the political compulsions to him in Tamil naadu which has sizable number of TELUGU, MALAYAALEES and KANNAGIGAS contents in the whole of population form historical times. After the period of reigns of three dynasties of CHERAAS, CHOZHAAS, PANDIYAAS, outsiders like Telugus (KRISHNADEVA RAAYA_) Marattas (Saraboji) have ruled pockets of tamil land. IT IS DURING THE REIGNS OF THESE ALIEN RULERS THAT TAMILS’ RELIGIOUS PRACTIECS GOT SANSKRTISIED . BRHAMINS TOOK OVER RICH TEMPLES BULIT BY TAMIL KINGS. The Brahmins introduced vedic Hinduism easily during CHOZHA reign. There is considerable haze over this area of how religious practices of Tamils were Sanskritised . BUT CLOSE SCRUTINY OF SOCIAL PRACTICES CONGENTLY REVEAL THAT IN THE STARTIFIED SOCIETY BY CASTES VEDIC PRACTICES WERE INTRODUCED TO PRINCELY/ ROYAL FAMILIES. BUT THE LOWER CLASS FAMILIES AND THEIR TEMPLES WERE UNTOUCHED BY VEDIC HINDUISM .That is how small and rural temples known as KULA DEIVAM temples ( Clan deities ) are 100% free from vedic rituals while rich and famous temples after elading HINDU GODS & GODDESSES are under the control of vedic principles and Brhmin priests officiate there using Sanskrit. ANYWAY THE POINT IS TAMIL SOCIETY IN TAMIL NAADU IS NOT 100% A TAMIL SOCIETY FROM HISTORICAL TIMES AND FOR HISTORICAL REASONS. THE MIGRANT OUTSIDERS HAVE FORMED CONSIDEARBLE PERCENTAGE IN THE POPULATION OF TAMIL LAND. Then the British for their own administrative convenience had created MADRAS PRESIDENCY which included areas of Malayalees, Kannadigaas, and Telugu people. From out of this Madras presidency only Tamils got their Madras State with mixed population and still with pockets of concentrated population of non Tamil origin .This helped emergence of Dravdian movement of south Indian people of Malayaales, Telugus, Kannadigaas and Tamils. PURE TAMIL NATIONALIAM COULD NEVER EVOLVE IN TAMIL NAADU FROM HISTORICAL TIMES! IT DOES NOT FIND READY ACCEPTANCE EVEN TO DAY!

    Shankar, can u under stand the deterrent factors against evolution of Tamil nationalism in Tamil naafu for the tamils, which are in almost total contrast with the historical course of events in Eezham that shaped tamil nationalism in the tamil region of the neighbouring island culminating in Eezham liberation struggle, marshalled by armed LTTE. In the meanwhile TULF got fatigued in making efforts to convince India of the need for separate Thamizh Eezham . Many things followed like change of advisor to the PM thiru Raajiv Gandhi (who succeeded his mother tmt.Indra Gandhi after her assassination by her Sikh guards) thiru.G.Paarththasaarathy and the gthen Foreign Secretary thiru.A.P.Venkatesan .

    Thiru.Bandaari had come in and with the then Indian High Commissioner thiru J.N.Dixi, they formed a formidable anti -Thamizh Eezham and anti-LTTE team. It was they who wrote the death warrant of thiru Raajiv Gandhi by misguiding him NOT to support sovereign Eezham demand of the Eezhamite Tamils and by seeking in the name of thiru.Raajiv to destroy LTTE under the guise of disarming LTTE and in the process even to get thiru.VP and thiru. Maththaiyaa shot and killed . The field commander of IPKF in Eezham Colonel Deepindra Sing has explained how RAW was actually supplying arms to EPRLF while ther IPKF was required by the Raajiv government to disarm LTTE and even get the LTTE leadership liquidated ! This is how the then GOI of thiru Raajiv Gandhi sought to practise perfidy against the Eezhamite Tamils as DMK had been cut to size by the rival AIADMK headed by Selvi.JJ . She always was ready to rope in the Congress for electoral alliance in the State level and at natiponal level..
    Thus my dear Shankar, the time had turned hostile to u. Slowly socio, poltical and economic scenario in Tn had turned against the eezham cause.

    Poeple like me also aged . but we have not ceased to think of Eezham. We can not. If people like u, whethera genuine Eezhamite tamil or a feinging one , u can make ur preferences. We from this side of Palk straist would continue to harp on Eezham. may i quote th song of poet Baaharathioyaar:

    “அக்கினி குஞ்சொன்று கண்டேன்- அதை அங்கொரு காட்டிலோர் பொந்திடை வைத்தேன்.
    வெந்து தணிந்தது காடு:தழல் வீரத்தில் குன்ஜென்றும் மூப்பென்ரும் உண்டோ”

    U seek to be the fire birds of Bhaarathi. seek to be brave to bear with the misery of war camps. To set afire the jungle of ghastly genocidal campaign at its peak by the racists Sinhalese, a small match stick is enough. Histry, justice and truth are with Eezhamite Tamils. never lose hope. (the tamil poem and the words that ensued are from the current artcle by Fr. Jagath Casper’ in NAKKEERAN tamil bi-weekly journal dated 5th sep 2009) at page 22 to 24.

    i can keep writing thiru.shankar. but I leave u here.

  370. To Thiru.”citizens” in his posting 430 : “padnamabaa it is very easy to sit in tamil nadu or toronto in luxury and call for tamizh only mythical state of peelam.”

    YES WHEN COMPARED TO THE WAR CAMPS OF INHUMAN AND SLAVISH CONDITIONS THERE FOR THE 3 LAKSH EEZHAMITE TAMILS IN KILINOCHCHI AREA OF THAMIZH EEZHAM, I DO LIVE IN ‘LUXURY”

    BUT WHY DO U FAIL TO READ THAT I TOO PRACTISE AS FAR AS POSSIBLE AUSTERITY IN MY ROUTINE HABITS AND REFRAIN FROM EVEN WATHCING TV ENTERTAINMENT LIKE MOVIES AFTER THE SL AMRY BEGAN MOWING DOWN THE EEZHAMITE TAMILS IN THE VANNI BELT AND IN PARTICULAR MAAVEERAN VP WAS SLAIN IN reportedly A GRUESOME WAY . THE BARBARIC SINHSLES SODLEIRS DID NOT EVEN S;PARE THE DAUGHER AND YOUNGERV SON OF THIRU.VP.

    Nevertthelss, citizen, please read the map of Europe at present . where is the Soviet Union? IT DOES NOT EXIST AT ALL ! All the constituent former “Soviet Socilistic Republics” of the erstwhile UNION OF SOVIET SOCIALTIC REPUBLICS are sovereign states toady! Are not they, Citizen? Where is the former Yugoslovia ? GONNNNNNEEE! Is it not , Citizen? PHEW! There are now SEVEN SOVEREIGN STATES! – Bosnia Herzegovina, Croatia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia!! HOW IS IT POSSIBE? Sir, Citizen, do u have Czechoslovakia today? NNNNNOOOO! We have separate and sovereign republics of Czech and Slovokia !! Why and how ,Citizen? After colonialism ended over Indian sub continent , there were only India and Paakisthaan.. How did Bangladesh come into being? IF U R DECENT & CIVILSED, ARGUE WITH ME BY HISTORY AND ACCPETED NORMS AS TO HOW AND WHY POLITIES COME INTO BEING IN MODERN TIMES , PLEASE, SIR.

    “you have written that recently you took your daughters to get their ears pierced…..ask yourself this question, if Velu P comes in the middle of the night to forcibly recruit your daughters will you give them up….there are many tamizh parents in the vanni who couldn’t get their daughters ears pierced because Velu P dragged them off and handed them cyanide pills bought and paid for with diaspora money…..”
    GRRREAT Sir, Citizen! Well argued ! Sir, If I have lived in Eezham and witenssed rape of our women and young girls by SLA, as shown a few years back by the BBC in its tv documentary titled “SUFFERINGS OF WOMEN IN WAR ZONES” in the backdrop of SL army reoccupying the Jaffnaa from LTTE , and beheld members of my society suffreings in myriad ways , take it from me Citizen, I WOULD NOT BE SUBJECTING MY DAUGHTER AND SON TO TRIVIAL COMMUNITY CERMONIES LIKE TONSURING AND EAR BORING. I would not have waited till the call from thiru VP heard to sapre oru children to repare to warefare with the adamant Sinhalese. I WOULD HAVE VOLUNTARILY SURRENDERED MY CHILDREN TO THE LTTE TO BE BROUGHT UP AND TRAINED TO FIGHT TO LIBERATE THEIR ANCESTRAL LAND, Sir.

    but I have not written to be tonsuirng my daughter or any thing like that . all that i have staed is to have attended such ceremoneis of my a family of my community. BUT I HAVE BBEEN ALWAYS AGAINST CASTE PRACISE AND THOUGH COMMUNITY TRADITION IMPOSES ON ME TO OBSERVE TONSURING AND EAR BORING TO MY SON , I NEVER DID THAT. So many traditons of caste relaetd i have waievd up.

    Do not twist facts and argue bilndly with arroganec Sir. Insteda i would like u to explain to us how the sinhalese alone are entitled o have the whole of the island exclusively theirs? . Why did not they honour ther agreements signed with Thiru.SJV Selvanaaykam?
    ther was no demand for eezham then!!

    Rest of ur comments are revealing more of ur ignorance and inadequate knowledge and grasp of matters . may i please ignore them?

    But as citizen of India I would not have encouraged LTTE to be violent here. Nor would I like the indian PM or any politicians to betray my kinsmen in Eezham. When necessary we would fight against the “indians” by ourselves when they seek to discrimante us. I was a partcpant in the ANTI HINDI AGITATION. Of 1965 against Hindi imposition. I ESCHEWD HINDI MOVIES AND SONGS . I have not changed till date.

    நன்றி/thank u, dear Citizen.

  371. to comment 439-navin

    i still consider the judge as a bully, for giving a 20 year sentence for what gadin in comment 432 says tissanayagam wrote. punishment must fit the crime , if indeed there was a crime. it would be interesting to see the previous sentences handed down by this judge and compare it with this sentence.
    as for your contention about the petrol and medicines, we should know how these were obtained by the ltte. they could have bribed or obtained from tamilnadu as the sea tigers were quite active at one time. tissanayagam was only highlighting the government policy of restricting fuel and medicines. this could have been official or unofficial policy , i dont know, but i know that vehicles were run using palmyrah oil, due to lack of petrol. the government would have done it to hit at the ltte, but it is difficult to isolate the ltte from the people . my grouse is punishing the media for highlighting these.

  372. dear padmanaaban

    with regard to your comments on rape, can you tell us what action has been taken so far by the indian government against the IPKF soldieres who raped so many tamil women, in the short period they were in srilanka. aren’t the 65 million tamils of tamilnadu ashamed that they did not follow it up. instead you were garlanding rajiv when he campaigned in tamilnadu. unfortunately for him one of them was the assasin who probably was seething with anger at what she had witnessed. stop calling yourselves tamils in future and call yourselves indians, because that is more appropriate.

  373. anent Shankar in 446:” instead you were garlanding rajiv when he campaigned in tamilnadu. unfortunately for him one of them was the assasin who probably was seething with anger at what she had witnessed. stop calling yourselves tamils in future and call yourselves indians, because that is more appropriate.

    u have failed to understand what i have been seeking to ex;pound above in as series of potsings. That people of TN have been more of identies like Cheraas, Chiozhaas and Pandyaas , then comes their caste identiteis and then their religious emotions. It has been NEVER for anythign like Tamils. Thus process of indiansisation is in progerss and the anti Hindi agitataion of my generation did makle some of us think and we have espoused tamil nationalism. We are a very insignificant minoirty. In the post colonial period only we got a contiguous tamil naadu and parteis like PMk has the agenda to divide it into aNorth and south tamil naadu. the kongu veLLaLa community of western TN has fielded their politcal outfit known as KONGU NAADU MUNNERTTA KAZHAGAM ( கொங்கு நாடு முன்னேற்ற கழகம் ) and they aim at separating their Kongu naadu from rest of Tamil naadu.!! Thus tamil nationalism, tamil idenity and tamil language nmed patrons in Tn, Sir.

    this was not the case wiht Eezahmite tamils . They stood united behind SJV Selvanaayakam to ensure a due plaec for their language. and other poltical rights. All failed and the TULF came to secuer their rights by democratic process and the ethnic tamils voted for it . After the faikure of the TULF , LTTE came to the fore and fough courageously y to establish a sovereign state. LTTE was vanguis by perfidy from within it by persons like Karunaa and others and from without by, thiru raajiv gandhi , thriu., Dixit and by persons like polticians in TN, say Thiru Mk, thiru.thirumaa etc. .

    Leave alone rape by IPKF. Staring from royal houses, Tamils lately accepted use of sanskrit in temples and for rituals on social occsions. In modern tiems as told abvoe they prefer english medium education frlom schools to college. No place in tamil naadu have use of tamil in commerce, trade and busiess places. Usually marriage halls ( திருமண மண்டபம்) display names in of the couple being marreid in English.

    IF MOST OF TAMILS HERE FEEL LIKE TAMILS THEN RECENT PICTURES OF SLA SHOOTING NAKED TAMILS SHOULD HAVE EVOKED WIDESPREAD PROTESTS.

    Do I need to explain to u further why tamils r garlanding Raajiv? Such people who garlanded him were more Congerssmen and indians than tamils !

    Of course the minority of tehe people here like me will NEVER again be anythigng else other than tamils,

    I really understand Shankar ur comments on the assasin of Raajiv gandhi.

    அன்பு நண்பரே சங்கர் , இங்குள்ள பெரும்பாலான மக்களின் இன அடையாளத்தை இழந்துள்ள நிலயை மன்னியுங்கள்

    anbu naNbaRE dear freidn

  374. 443. P.Padmanaaabhan
    “U seek to be the fire birds of Bhaarathi, Seek to be brave to bear with the misery of war camps. To set afire the jungle of ghastly genocidal campaign at its peak by the racists Sinhalese, a small match stick is enough. History, justice and truth are with Eezhamite Tamils. Never lose hope. (the Tamil poem …..) “ ………….beautiful !!!!!!!!
    vaNakkam P.Padmanaaabhan
    Your knowledge is on this subject is deep. Thanks for sharing it. And at the same time you are caring human being, who wants justice for the voiceless and oppressed Tamils in Sri Lanka.
    ——————————————-
    As Sri Lanka is becoming a terror state, the freedom of speech suffers in a consequence.
    Its latest victim is J. S. Tissainayagam, who was recently sentenced to 20 years of hard labor.
    The ruling Sri Lanka Freedom Party, riding the crest of victory, believes it has popular sanction to centralize power and smother dissident voices.
    The attack on press freedom in Sri Lanka is symptomatic of this.
    The Mahinda R. government has been targeting dissidents for years. The President’s one time friend Lasantha Wickrematunge was assassinated on January 8, 2009 because he wrote against the authoritarian proclivities of the SLFP government. His testament pointed fingers at the President and the coterie around him for his murder.
    Since 2006 fourteen journalists have lost their lives, 11 forced into exile, scores subjected to assault, arbitrary detentions or threats.

  375. vaNakkam this morning to tvl., Gadkin Ram,(GR), Shankar ,mawatha silva (MS) ,citizen and all other our dear friends.

    Please forgive me for typo and oversight errors above . I am not a good typist with fast work capabilties, For want of time I fail to corrcet the draft before uploading. Sorry where my words itks u as eye sores.

    Gadkin ram: “Your knowledge is on this subject is deep. Thanks for sharing it. And at the same time you are caring human being, who wants justice for the voiceless and oppressed Tamils in Sri Lanka”

    the 1965 anti hindi agitation was turning point for Tamil youth of my generation. I was a student then at a very famous college in the tsuburbs of the hen Madras which drew students from Figi island, Ceylon, Malaysia , Thailand ( one thiru.Theb Israein from Basngkok was my lassmate at graduate level. ) Mauritius, Reunion, Madagsaskar, Souht Africa, Nigeria, Kenya,Ghana and other few developing African states etc. As we sat on our desks in the class in alphabetical order , next me sat a Nigerian thiru.Oulmide Sofelowe. There was another Nigerian of Ibo tribe which fought for their own home land of BIAFRA and their freedom movement too was a failure for want of timely intrentaional help . My teachers at college too were from dfiferent countries like Australia ( thiru Ian Manning who taught me an economics subject) thiru,Mickale Lockowodd who taught philosophy at college and was from USA and stayed in an apartment attached to our hostel, thiru Hetherington from the then West Germany etc. My Indian teachers too were too good people. but my mentor was Rev.Duncan B.Forrestor who taught me poltics, was from Britain, of Scotish origin and my hostel warden. He inspired me so much in not only gaining knowledge but also developiong a good charater and outlook. Then my hard work always and I opted to Law , after post graduation in Politics and Public Administration. The subject of sociology at PG level revealed to me how humans got organised into society of like habits, traditioons and language. From out of this narrow social gropus in course of time States get formed over a specifed geo area for them. Then from out of group leadership, side by side, govt was formed with King to govern them. Moanrchies came into being and in modern times democracy is the usual order. Colonialism was part of human history. terrirtoirial annexation was an accepetd prcatice in monarchical days. Empiries got formed. Brtisih colonial empire was so huge that it was claimed that ovre the stretch of the British empire sun never set.

    But we tamils got our separate identities in Eezham and in Tamil speaking land. Some from Sinhalese section have argued for their exclusive right over the island claiming 2000 years of possession of thir island. and they tend to reject the claim of eezhamite tamils for their home land in north and east of isalnd. That is not fair. China too claimed back Hongkong and Macabu on the basis of long time lease to the colonial powers. BUT WHY DO SINHALESE CLAIM THE WHOLE OF ISLAND AS THEIRS? but they r majoirty today and they have the sovereign right for the whole island as handed over to them by the Brtitish. Brtiish did not get the whole island from any sinhalses king! What would be the status of the island had not the european colonists had not set foot in the island. WOULD EVER THE SINHALESE VANGUISHED THE TAMILS IN NORTH & EAST? Even notw if not for collusive and vengeful help from NEW DELHI, merely with weapon helps from Pak, China and other countries Colombo would not have won the war against tamils.

    It pains me to think of hapless and helpless eezhamite brethren, GR ,

    Like thiru.Pazha Nedumaaran iyaa here i too have turned a Tamil nationalist and fofr rest of my life I shall not change from this natural and historical identity of mine. For the future of tamils in the State of TN here my hope is as awrness grows , theys must seek to transform the Union of India into a common political organisation in the pattern of EU in Europe.

    we will meet again for sharing our mind. Bye for the time being.

  376. dear padmanaaban

    your last sentence is interesting. you prefer the EU model over the indian model. i prefer the indian model over the EU one because you can see the EU is struggling to work as a cohesive force. all the leaders are trying o go in different directions. they realised this when the financial crisis hit them and gordon brown had to go from country to country trying to form a united policy to tackle this. every country is still thinking of its own interest and not europe as a whole. compare this with india where a coherent policy can be developed quickly and implemented without all this running around.

    as for your comment as to why the sinhalese are claiming the whole country, iam afraid you are the culprit my friend. the sinhalese are paranoid about their security and historical invasions into their homeland also reinforce their fear. the teeming multitudes in tamilnadu make them feel insecure and they feel that if eelam is got the next step is their homeland will be attacked with a united eelam and tamilnadu tamils. so they will keep on claiming the tamil homeland as theirs. if you did not exist my friend and their was no historical invasions then they would be more reasonable. i am afraid they will fight to the last to stop eelam. the indian model is the best for srilanka for both parties. the stubbornness of both to accept this is the main problem.

    ps- you seem now very tired after your lengthy writings. we wont let you go off like that saying bye. once you get tangled up with srilankans you cant escape.

  377. dear padmanaaban

    comment 450 is mine. the name had got omitted and i did not notice it. take a rest my friend, because i am sure your family is scolding you for spending so much time on the computer and not on them. by the way dont waste time sending in tamil. i think it is being corrupted and everything is garbled when we read.

  378. வணக்கம் அனைவருக்கும்..
    nice to read u thiru.anonymous and thank u for ur comments.
    I opened the blog this morning ( of 6th Sep 09 at 07:10 am) to add comments in regard to and on the basis of the declared and unqualified support to the self -determination/liberation cause of Kashmir for which the Muslims there have been using militancy with the help of Pakisthan, for over five decades, that is, closely after the British left their colonial polity of India hvaing divided it as two separate sovereign States of India and Paksitan. ( the latter with two wings of West and East Pakistan ). religion was the basis for this divisiion but again in about less than tw decades after the creation West wets and East Pakistan the Urdu speaking West Pakistan could not go along with Bengali speaking East Pakistan and with India’s help by full fledged was, the then East Pakistan became a sovereign Bangla Dash.
    I will talk about it later. Let me first talk with thiru.anaonymous for a while.
    Sir, Ananymous, u say:”- you seem now very tired after your lengthy writings. we wont let you go off like that saying bye. once you get tangled up with srilankans you cant escape.”
    Sir, I assure u that i will stay as long u want me here for the sake of my kinsmen Eezhamite tamils. Let me hasten to add that not tired after the lengthy potsings. But the burden of anguish over the unjust incarceration of three lakhs Eezhamite Tamils in camps by the cruel SLA undre orders from colombo. It is a misery over the current helplessness of eezham supporters like me. Its is an extreme and acute sense of mixed feelings of anger and disappointment over the callous current indifference of influential leaders like Thiru.MK and selvi.JJ and their past perfidy and mean opportunism. Think of the statement of thiru MK from his hospital l bed on the even parliamentary elections a few months back that he to will work for Eezham in response to the all of a sudden declaration of selvi JJ for the sake of electoral success that she was for Thamizh Eezham.!!
    It is my mundane routines here that necessitate me to break the drafting in reply to the questio and d comments from friends here.
    Anonymlous: :”as for your comment as to why the sinhalese are claiming the whole country, iam afraid you are the culprit my friend. ”
    CERTAINLY NOT! if ur y”ou” stand to denote we , the tamils, in tamil naadu, we NEVER interfered when the Sinahlese leaders Bandaranayakes and jawwardene signed agreement to remedy the grievances of the minoirty ethnic tamils who then NEVER called Eezhamite tamils. Correct, dear anonymous. Please me informtaive to persons like me if i am wrong . for when such agreements were sigend i was never aware of anyone like like Eezhmaite tamils or their grievance.

    I WOULD SAY IT WAS THE POLITICAL RIVALRY BETWEEN SINGALESE PARTIES UF UNP AND SLFP THAT FORCED THE RULING PARTY IN COLOMBO TO ABANDON AGREEMENTS. DRIVE TO WALL THEY ENHANCED THEIR ASPIRATIONS HELPLESSLY AND WERE FORCED TO DEMAND SEPARTAE EEZHAM AS THE MAJORITY SINHALESE ONLY SOUGHT TO CRUSH THE JUST POLITICAL RIGHTS LIKE TERRITORIAL SECURITY AND LANGUAGE AND EDUCATIONAL RIGHTS OF MINORITY TAMILS. The majoirty Sinahelse betrayed the trust the minority had in them.
    Anonymous: “the sinhalese are paranoid about their security and historical invasions into their homeland also reinforce their fear”
    If they suffer from soem hallucination it is our fault. IS IT NOT THAT HISTORICAL ERA OF INVASION AND TERRITORIAL EXPANSION ARE OVER IN MODERN TIMES? In the post coloniol era , it took some time for Madras state to become tamil naadu and this Tamils state is always a constituent state of the Union of India. How does a question arises for any present invasion as such by tamils from tamil naadu? I am sorry u r totally wrong.

  379. Anonymous: ” the teeming multitudes in tamilnadu make them feel insecure ”

    In modern times it will never happen Sir.

    Anonymous: “and they feel that if eelam is got the next step is their homeland will be attacked with a united eelam and tamilnadu tamils. ”

    u see, how can i discuss hoose to if u c proceed by unreasonable hypotheses not related to realities.
    well, if so, why did not the Sinhalese allow the eezhamite tamils to revive the boundareis of pre colonial areas of tamils in the island and seek to be in peace with them. Where , how and why do we come in then ? If there is peace, friendship, trust between the neghbours of tamils in Eezham and the sinahelse in Sri Lanka. we have NO role there at all, Sir!

    Anonymous:”so they will keep on claiming the tamil homeland as theirs. ”

    The Sinhalese forced the Eezhamite tamils to claim a sovereign and separate home land. NEVER THE TAMILS OF TAMIL NAADU. There wasnone form TN in the VATTUKOTTAI i coneferce and we from Tn played no role in passing the famous Vattukottai respoluton, Sir!

    Anonymous:”if you did not exist my friend and their was no historical invasions then they would be more reasonable. ”

    I have already told u we were never there until the steam roller mahjoirty sinahlese began their genocidal war against teh etthinc tamils. Each day of their repression and discrimination of eezham tamils , the sinahelse were fixing brick afetr brick for eezham edifice. that is adding reasons for demanding Eezham. were not they Sir, Anonynmous?
    Anonymous: “i am afraid they will fight to the last to stop eelam. ”

    well , as on date, they have accomlished it ! It has been possible is due to changes in political ground realties in tamil naadu after the demise of thiru..MGR io the state of Tn here, tmt.indira gandhi in New Delhi, assasination of thriu.raajv, Selvi.jayalalithaa rivaling with thiru. .MK to reach New delhi by holding the hands of either BJP or Congress. So many events here in india and in the neighbourhood and in the USA and Europe which have to the davantage to the sinhalese. BUT I CAN NOT COGRATULATE THEM FOR I AM AN ETHNICALLY CONSCIOUS AND COMMITTED TAMILIAN, Sir. Ima morally oibliged to the honiour, security, peace and bliss of my kinsmen, I will not forgive the majority Sinahelse of the island country for their arrogance, introasigence and burtality, Anonymous. If they have been otherwise , please correct me, Sir.

    Anonymous I have to postpone ur references to EU and Indian Union at the beginning of ur comments in ur posting no. 450. Fro want of time right now, please. But we need to talk and we will later. Ok?
    may i break here to join u later. It is 08:25 am on 6th Sep 09 and i have to drive out with family for a day long works elsewhere from my home base. May i fondly recall my teen age days in the 50s and 60s of last century when i was regular to be attuned in teh evenings to radio ceylon till the end to hear the mellifluous words : ‘நேயர்களே இன்றைய நிகழ்ச்சிகள் இத்துடன் முடிவடைகின்றன . மீண்டும் உங்களனைவரையும் சந்திக்கும் வரை வணக்கம் கூறி விடை பெறுவது மயில்வகாணன்” . Because here in Tn tamil cine music broadcasts had not been developed and we were harassed by Hindi vividha baarathi broadcasts only!

  380. Vanakkam thiru.Shankar/anonymous in posting 451.

    I did not know how I missed to note ur message of clarification on ur Anonymous idenitity Sir before i posted my messages in 452 and 453 yesterday ( 6th Sep morning) ! Thank u for ur clarification and concern expressed : take a rest my friend, because i am sure your family is scolding you for spending so much time on the computer and not on them.

    But have not u staed : we wont let you go off like that saying bye. once you get tangled up with srilankans you cant escape.-vide ur comments in 450.

    More over i read u say: by the way dont waste time sending in tamil. i think it is being corrupted and everything is garbled when we read.

    Really sorry. I will take care hereafter. My belief was as in my table top pc and laptop all of u can read any tamil words and quotes from journals interspersed in my messages printed here here in the discussion. Sorry Shankar. I will seek to avoid hereafter. But if thsia problem with few of u, kndly ebar with me for my quoets from other tamils jorunals for their relevancy to issues we discuss. But I would mostly seek to avoid printing in tamil.

    Now- On the night of 5th Sep at 09:15 PM (21.15 hrs IST), as I am wont to do most of the days before retiring for the day , I checked up the tv news channels and yahoo news in my மடிக்கணிணி (laptop) .I found the yahoo news display of headlines included the following interesting topic and I opened it , read over and saved it for use in our discussion in EEZHAM context. .

    May I please reproduce below only the relevant parts to KAHSRMIR isseu from out of the details of the said yahoo news . One may access the link of – http://in.newsyahoo.com/ 139/20090905/874/twl-pakistan-will-continue-to-support-th.html for the whole of details) : -for the whole of details.

    ‘”Pakistan will continue to support the K-cause: Gilani.
    Sat, Sep 5 12:30 PM
    Karachi, Sep.5 (ANI): Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani has once again said that Islamabad would continue its support to the Kashmiri people and the government’s decision to give autonomy to Gilgit Baltistan does not mean that it has shelved the Kashmir issue
    “We gave internal autonomy, sovereignty to Gilgit Baltistan which was a long standing demand of its people but this does not mean that we have forgotten the Kashmir issue. We will continue to give moral and diplomatic support to the Kashmiri people,” Gilani said.
    The prime minister said the government had not altered its stance on the Kashmir issue by awarding autonomy to the Northern Areas.
    He said Kashmir was the cornerstone of the PPP’s foreign policy, and support to the cause would continue.
    Interacting with media persons during an Iftar dinner hosted by Sindh Governor Dr. Ishratul Ebad Khan, Gilani stressed that Pakistan was not a ‘failed state’, saying the country has a ‘strong democratic government, independent judiciary, free media’…………….
    …….Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has said that there is a need to project the Kashmir issue more vigorously and the role of Kashmiri leadership was extremely important in this context.
    Briefing political leaders of the Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) on the Gilgit-Baltistan reforms, Qureshi said resolution of the Kashmir issue was the key to a durable peace in the region.

    “We feel that Kashmir dispute is central to Pakistan-India relations, which highlights the need for the Kashmiris to be associated with the dialogue process,” Qureshi said.
    He assured the leaders that Pakistan has been making consistent efforts to project the Kashmir cause at various international levels.

  381. can u find the enigma of duplicity by pakisthan which is in league with Colombo, ( as alos are their right self determination in Eezham /liberation of their home land ? Pkaistan has granted , as we read its PM in the news quoetd above, ” internal autonomy, sovereignty to Gilgit Baltistan which was a long standing demand of its people ” and he swears his country would support Kashmir people ( kahsmir’s Urdu speaking Muslims) alebit the Muslims in the British ruled undivided India allowed to have their islamic Pakistan,.That means Pakistan wpould continue to sponsor and support with arms , training and money the various militant gorups in Kashmir.

    BUT HIS COUNTRY SUPPORTED AND HELPED COLOMBO TO WIPE OUT EEZHAM MOVEMENT and LTTE!

    India waged war against Pakistan to lermiante genocide of the Bengali muslims in (golden) Bangla Desh !

    But – after a stage, with political leadership in New Delhi passing over to thiru.Raajiv Gandhi follwing the asssination of his mother tmt,.Indira Gandhi let down Eezham liberation movement and seeks to settle down only to regional autonomy when Eezhamite tamils since 1976 had opted for separate sovereign Tamizh eezham .

    India , after siging Indo-Sri lanka Accord of 1987 on 29.07.1987 ( signed by thiru Raajiv as PM of India and HE honble President of SL ,thiru.jaywardene ) sought to diarm LTTE and liqudate it even while arming its rival EPRLF!

    Dioplmacy in specific context thus is practised only to subserve own intersets fo a country and NOT the affecetd people.

    Even news papers follow the same trend!

    For instance , there is NOT a single word printed in THE HINDU which proclaims istelf to be the INDIA’S NATIONAL DAILY about Chine intrusion of 1.5kms into Indian territory in Ladak region and the Chienes soldiers painted red colour on boulders and rocks and scribbled in cantonese “CHINA” !!

    THE news papers here like the Indian express and Dinamani and tv channels in India have screamed in front page and lead headlinese abotu this new development betwenn India and China at the borders .

    REMEMBER THE CHIEF EDITOR OF THE HINDU IS CLOSE TO PEKING AND WAS A COMRADE AS A MEMER OF Communits Part Marxist!

    His peference for fromt page coverage is the ness pertaining to the alleged role of LTTE in attckinh the Sri Lankam cricket etam in pakisthan few monts back .

    That is the claim of Pakistan now while aftter the attack , Ilsambad was swift to fix resposibility and balme for the attack on another militant islamic organistaion – “laskar e toiba”

    Such are the dangerous ciurrents in politics !

    we will contiue Shanlar later . I may discuss ur poinst relating to EU and Indian Union. vide ur posting 450.

  382. Shankar, read about duplicity of Pakistan in realtion to Let!

    Lashkar-e-Taiba (Urdu: لشکرطیبہ lakar-ĕ ṯayyiba; literally Army of the Good, translated as Army of the Righteous, or Army of the Pure) also transliterated as Lashkar-i-Tayyaba, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba, Lashkar-i-Taiba, Lashkar Taiba or LeT is one of the largest and most active militant organizations in South Asia. It was founded by Hafiz Muhammad Saeed and Zafar Iqbal[2][3] in the Kunar province of Afghanistan in 1990 and is currently based in Muridke near Lahore, Punjab, Pakistan and operates several training camps in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.[ Lashkar-e-Taiba members have carried out major attacks against India and its objective is to introduce an Islamic state in South Asia and to “liberate” Muslims residing in Indian-administered Kashmir. Some breakaway Lashkar members have also been accused of carrying out attacks in Pakistan, particularly in Karachi, to mark its opposition to the policies of former President Pervez Musharraf. The organization is banned as a terrorist organization by India, Pakistan, the United States,[ the United Kingdom,, the European Union,[ Russia[ and Australia.[
    As of December 2008 U.S. intelligence officials believed that Pakistan’s main intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), continued to give LeT intelligence help and protection.[

    yenna sir aniyaayam ithu , Shankar?

  383. 424. Nostradamus:

    So much for your Channel 4 bomb shell! Apparently, its nothing but a fake– a cheap attempt by so called fiercely independent western free media to distort the image of another country by colluding with terrorist sympathizers! If Channel 4 would display any video that incriminates a government even when they are not sure of its authenticity, Im sure there are enough videos on YouTube to keep them busy for a long time. For some reason, they chose just this one only.

    http://www.colombopage.com/archive_091/Sep1252336323RA.html

    I’m sure there will be more crap of this type to come in future and many more people will clap when that happens…

    So much for a number one broadcasting corporation and still people want GOSL to allow these people into war zones!

    I cannot thank GOSL and MR enough for kicking these rats out of our country.

  384. #457 Navin

    Calling the news media people as “rats” is a serious insult.

    Posturing aside, the onus is on GOSL to take legal action to prove the footage as fake.

    http://transcurrents.com/tc/2009/09/submit_channel_4_tape_to_foren.html

    I am really bewildered by the comment made by US Ambassador to UN Susan Rice without any reference to the authenticity of the footage.

    Philip Alston of UN says the footage appears to be authentic on the surface. Please check link below.

    http://transcurrents.com/tc/2009/09/us_voices_grave_concern_about.html.

    According to Jonathan Miller ” we would not have broadcast our report had we not been confident with the expert analysis we received ”

    There is some reference to Steven Spielberg too. Please check link below.

    http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2009/08/26/authenticating-the-sri-lanka-war-crimes-footage/

    As of now, GOSL is clearly on the ropes. Will it be able to redeem itself ?

  385. 458. Nostradamus:

    I dont know whether you took a serious look at the link I gave you but according to the news report image processing experts from University of Moratuwa have had a look at the video and concluded that its a cheap hoax. The artifacts that they have identified should make it obvious for anyone with an iota of video coding knowledge that this video could not have come from a mobile phone nor have been recorded real time. Observe the references to picture quality and the fact that gun shot on sound track trails the corresponding video frames. Makes me wonder the kind of video coding experts Mr. Miller consulted prior to airing the video!

    Are we to worship media folk like God regardless of their conduct? Media folk are ordinary people and if there is scum among ordinary people there can be scum among media personnel too. The conduct of Channel 4 with respect to Sri Lanka is proof.

    I dont know what legal action the government can take against Channel 4 in this case for they have already carried out their disclaimer. However, the government can indeed impress upon the media ranking bodies of UK and expose the malicious conduct of Channel 4. That way when their ranking goes down pulling down with it income from advertises, Channel 4 and others like them will think twice before they start a witch hunt against governments that they know cannot strike back under the guise of investigative journalism.

    Why are you so bewildered by the conduct of Susan Rice? Channel 4 video and subsequent statements emanating from the likes of Susan Rice are all part of a master plan. Besides, Susan Rice is nothing but a subordinate of HRC whose campaign was generously funded by LTTE overseas network.

    Furthermore, Americans need no proof for anything. If they say you are a witch, then my friend you are a witch.

  386. 459 Navin

    Your reference to American witch hunt is alarming.

    Did you factor in the 56 million witches Sri Lanka received in 2009 from US as humanitarian assistance.

    Proof of which is given below for your kind attention.

    “Assistant Secretary Blake and Charg Moore welcomed the opportunity to listen to the concerns and perspectives of the American Tamil Diaspora community and to share the steps the United States is taking to address the humanitarian crisis. The United States has provided $56 million in humanitarian assistance in 2009. While the Government of Sri Lanka has made some progress easing camp congestion, registering IDPs, and expanding access by humanitarian organizations, much remains to be done, Assistant Secretary Blake and Charg Moore said. The United States is urging the safe and speedy return of IDPs, continued access for international humanitarian organizations, and the registration and provision of national identification cards to IDPs, to help promote freedom of movement.”

    You can have the last word.

  387. 460. Nostradamus:

    First of all, I have made no reference to a witch hunt by the Americans. The witch hunt is by Channel 4 in order to create sensational news to stay ahead of their competitors be it factual or not. LTTE remnants are taking advantage of indifference shown by western media towards these poor countries.

    As far as Channel 4 is concerned it doesn’t matter who wins, who loses, who lives or who dies as long as they get the most sensational piece of news. The care with which they report conflicts in the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan as opposed to the Sri Lankan conflict is proof. They don’t care anymore about Tamils than they care about Sinhalese. Observe, I’m not castigating all people living in western countries– just bad ones.

    I do not deny the assistance America has provided Sri Lanka and other countries. However, this doesn’t mean their foreign policy is not based on dominating rest of the world.

    American response to Sri Lankan situation whether emanating from the president or a low key diplomat like Susan Rice doesn’t even go that far up in their foreign policy think tank for this country is not that significant in the world.

    Hence, their current attitude towards Sri Lanka IMO (you are free to disagree) is based on the vote bank LTTE can deliver to people like HRC, Senator Patrick Leahy, etc. What is right in the eyes of Tamil Diaspora is what is right in the eyes of these politicians. For every vote counts even if that comes from a terror sympathiser.

    Even though LTTE is banned, still HRC chose to differentiate between LTTE and other terrorist groups. Do you honestly believe people like VR could function in the world had they been supporting Al-Qaida instead of LTTE? That alone should be sufficient for anyone to understand the way the foreign policy works in the west.

    Hence if the video is authentic for Diaspora, it is authentic enough for HRC and Susan Rice for regardless of which stand they take with respect to us there is nothing we can do about it.

  388. vaNakkam- Shankar and others! .

    I have read this day the following news:” சிறிலங்கா அரச தலைவர் மகிந்த ராஜபக்ச அரசால் அப்பாவித் தமிழ் மக்கள் பெருமளவிலானோர் கொல்லப்பட்டனர் எனத் தெரிவிக்கப்படும் குற்றச்சாட்டுக்கள் தொடர்பான செய்தியை இறுவட்டுக்களில் பதிவு செய்து அனைத்துலக சமூகத்திற்கு எடுத்துச் சென்ற சிங்களவர் ஒருவரை பிணையில் விடுவிப்பதற்கு கொழும்பு மேலதிக நீதிவான் அனுமதி மறுத்துள்ளார். தேசிய கிறிஸ்தவ சபை என்ற அரச சார்பற்ற நிறுவனத்தைச் சேர்ந்த யந்ரவடுகே ஜெயம்பதி சாந்த நிகால் செனவிரத்ன என்ற சந்தேக நபர் சார்பில் சமர்ப்பிக்கப்பட்ட பிணை மனுவை நீதவான் நேற்று புதன்கிழமை தள்ளுபடி செய்தார்.”

    IF THAT IS THE FATE OF INDEPENDENT WORKS TO EXPOSE THE WAR CRIMES OF COLOMBO GOVT, HOW TO BELIEVE THE OPINION OF IMAGE PROCESSING EXPERTS ARE GENUINE AND RELIABLE? THEY ARE EXPRESSED EITHER IN BIAS OR OUT OF FEAR.

    we must agree that generally such tapes could be manufcatured. BUT GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF EEZHAM WAR, THE TAPES ARE MORE THAN REAL AND IN CONFORMITY WITH THE THEN FACTS OBTAINING.

    My comments apply to the interesting t the issue in discussion in the messages above from 4 telecast video footage of the BRUTAL AND BARNARIC MOWING DOWN OF ETHNIC EEZHAMITE TAMILS in the island state of Sri lanka. the video tapes are sought to be dismissed as not authentic and reliable for the reason of expert opinjon from within sri lanka.Quote from message no. above:” image processing experts from University of Moratuwa have had a look at the video and concluded that it�s a cheap hoax. The artifacts that they have identified should make it obvious for anyone with an iota of video coding knowledge that this video could not have come from a mobile phone nor have been recorded real time. Observe the references to picture quality and the fact that gun shot on sound track trails the corresponding video frames. Makes me wonder the kind of video coding experts Mr. Miller consulted prior to airing the video!)

    Therefore why should and how could one on such image processing experts from winitn Srilanka. If sri lanka had disproved these tapes by experts from outside , it is worth discussing of its authenticity .

  389. comment 462-padmanaaban

    i agree with you. srilanka should have got down some experts from china, pakistan or iran to check the authenticity of the video.

  390. 462. P.Padmanaaabhan:

    I would not have believed it had GOSL simply said the video was a fake.

    However, coming from an eminent scientist with detail reasons why the video is a hoax, it is irrelevant whether the scientist is a Sri Lankan or some other national.

    What matters is the evidence that he has presented based on principals of image processing and video coding which transcend ethnic and national boundaries.

    If the video is authentic, still, it is up to those who believe so to disprove his findings and present technical reasons as to why they disagree. Until, then we have to take what he says as correct. There is nothing more for GOSL to do.

  391. 462. P.Padmanaaabhan

    vaNakkam Thiru Padmanaaabhan

    Very good posts !!

    Your illustrious comments here illuminate my whole day : )

    Another reason to keep the 300 000 innocent civilians in Sri Lankan concentration camps.

    Sri Lankan government shamelessly fleeces kith and kin of IDPs. Family members and kinsfolk of IDPs in the internment camps had remitted 100 million rupees in the past two months, according to I.D. Weerasena, Deputy General Manager of Bank of Ceylon. In the past four to five months, 500 million rupees had been deposited by the IDPs, said Mr. Weerasena, whose state-controlled bank had opened banking units with online and ATM facilities in the internment camps and deals with 21,000 new account holders.

    While it is the responsibility of the state and the international community that badly wanted the civilians to end up in the internment camps to look after them well, the Colombo government keeping them in sub-human ways has started looking at them as ducks laying golden eggs, said a social worker in Vavuniyaa.

    As state receives foreign exchange through Diaspora remittances and through foreign aid meant for the IDPs, the local money reaches the IDPs is fleeced from them in various ways from business of the southerners to bribery of the military.

    The “kind “Sri Lanka Government which let the elderly over 60 years go ? Not until each and every one of them paid exuberant fee.

    And the businesses set up inside the concentration camps by Sri Lankan military (don’t forget: bribe, bribe, bribe) are charging astronomical prices for rotten vegetables.

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    461. Navin

    The responsibility is on the government of Sri Lanka to demonstrate that a video of this quality and this apparent authenticity is in fact a fake.

    It is certainly not getting UN anywhere to simply dismiss it out of hand.

    There is a clear onus on the Sri Lanka government to demonstrate the validity of their claim. Also you have to bear in mind that the Sri Lankan government imposed a comprehensive press and other blackout on the entire war area, so there were no immediate reports.

    There were very few reports from any other sources.

    Nonetheless, there has been a series of allegations about widespread killings in the last few months of the war.

    Those killings have led to a number of calls for the Sri Lankan Government to investigate, to permit an independent international investigation to take place. However, to this date, there has been no response.

  392. Hello Nostradamus and good friends !!

    I’m extremely concerned over the human rights abuses of the minority Tamils.

    Certainly, the deceitful and manipulative behaviors of the Sri Lankan government in so many years do nothing to ameliorate my concerns.

    In fact, I believe we are witnessing a full scale act of genocide which has been implemented by the Sri Lankan government against their Tamil minority.

    Why else would they keep independent observers out of our country?

    As usual in such cases the world’s governments are content to do absolutely nothing to save anyone.

    Each and every one of us, Sri Lankans, should be deeply ashamed of this because, like it or not, Sri Lankan government represent us. We elect them; therefore, we are directly responsible for the policies they choose to pursue

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    A skeletal frame….. a mere shadow of a man, who is lying helplessly in the dirt, so weak he is unable to brush away the annoying flies from his face.

    http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/world/asia_pacific/footage+reveals
    A new video footage from Channel 4

  393. vaNakkam and welcome thiru.Shankar and thiru.navin.

    463. shankar: (srilanka should have got down some experts from china, pakistan or iran to check the authenticity of the video.).

    how can the abetteor s in the war will help us?

    r u teasing me , Sir ..ha..ha.haa?

    I have read navin in 465.

    u r evaluating the channel 4 document for its credibility on the basis of appraisal by eminent scientist . Let me discuss how far this is acceptable.

    “it is irrelevant whether the scientist is a Sri Lankan or some other national.”

    well that is not ocrrrect navin. There is war between his country and the GOSL is all out onslaught to destroy every one it regards to be a or to be a “terrorist”.

    the video shosw mowing down certain person in obvious captivity by armed solders. The world is aware that there are still an estimated 3 laksh in captivity under in inhuman conditions.
    there are admittedly restrictive and menacing State contrils.

    SO HOW TO TRUST A SRI LANKAN SINHALESE SCIENTIST TO BE OUT OF BIAS OR FEAR?

    “What matters is the evidence that he has presented based on principals of image processing and video coding which transcend ethnic and national boundaries.”

    Why did not SL take help from any tenchincal agency outside SL, in countries of free democracies like UK or USA or EU countries, through its missions in such countries?

    “If the video is authentic, still, it is up to those who believe so to disprove his findings and present technical reasons as to why they disagree.”

    the burden is always on the accused the disprove.
    The struggling peopl or their supporters or sympathisers are appalled to fidn this evidence of modern electronic device.

    “Until, then we have to take what he says as correct. There is nothing more for GOSL to do.

    well ..I as a Tamil disgree with u navin.

    For academic interest. indian Law of Evidence has been amended in 2000 by a central Act to accomodate in evidence modern “documents” like audio or video tapes.

    thank u navin and we will meet again friends .

  394. 468. P.Padmanaaabhan:

    u r evaluating the channel 4 document for its credibility on the basis of appraisal by eminent scientist . Let me discuss how far this is acceptable.

    it is irrelevant whether the scientist is a Sri Lankan or some other national.

    well that is not ocrrrect navin. There is war between his country and the GOSL is all out onslaught to destroy every one it regards to be a or to be a terrorist.
    the video shosw mowing down certain person in obvious captivity by armed solders. The world is aware that there are still an estimated 3 laksh in captivity under in inhuman conditions.

    there are admittedly restrictive and menacing State contrils.

    SO HOW TO TRUST A SRI LANKAN SINHALESE SCIENTIST TO BE OUT OF BIAS OR FEAR?

    Please read what I have said Mr. Mr. Paddamban. Im, not asking you to trust Dr. C R de Silva. Im only asking you to present a technical argument to disprove his counter argument to prove that the video is a fake. I dont care what you do for your living as long as the evidence you site is technically sound I will accept it.

    Why did not SL take help from any tenchincal agency outside SL, in countries of free democracies like UK or USA or EU countries, through its missions in such countries?

    Now this really shows what you can and cannot comprehend.

    If you know that 2+2 adds up to 4, why do you think we need to go ask USA, UK or EU? Besides, where do you think our scientists get their Ph.D s?

    Trust me, Mr. Paddamban, you may not have any respect for our scientists but your revered scientists from the west have much respect for them.

    If the video is authentic, still, it is up to those who believe so to disprove his findings and present technical reasons as to why they disagree.
    the burden is always on the accused the disprove.

    It has been technically disproved. Now, the ball is back in their court to prove us wrong. Theres nothing more to prove.

    Until, then we have to take what he says as correct. There is nothing more for GOSL to do.
    well ..I as a Tamil disgree with u navin.
    For academic interest. indian Law of Evidence has been amended in 2000 by a central Act to accomodate in evidence modern documents like audio or video tapes.

    No law enforcement body in India or elsewhere will accept fake videos or other electronic evidence. The law enforcement bodies rely on what the field experts say about evidence as opposed to some media folk no matter what the ranking is of the media institution.
    Unless what the SL scientist have said is disproved, this video wont fly nowhere.

  395. 465. Gadin Ram:

    The responsibility is on the government of Sri Lanka to demonstrate that a video of this quality and this apparent authenticity is in fact a fake.

    Have you read even a single word of my posts? The bloody video has been technically proved to be a fake not by some politician but by computer scientists. What more proof do you want? Go read the news before you blog. Damn it.

    There is a clear onus on the Sri Lanka government to demonstrate the validity of their claim. Also you have to bear in mind that the Sri Lankan government imposed a comprehensive press and other blackout on the entire war area, so there were no immediate reports.

    What has press blackout got to do with reasons given to prove that this video is a fake?

    I don’t know what happened in Wanni during the war. Based on how even the most well trained armies behave in the world, hind sight tells anyone that things could have gone way out of hand. But it’s over now. No one had any other solution and we tried to resolve this issue for many years before SLA was given a freehand in much better civilized ways. In the end, unfortunately it all came down to either SLA be allowed to vanquish the LTTE or LTTE would vanquish the entire country before that. Not a very complicated choice to me.

    Nonetheless, there has been a series of allegations about widespread killings in the last few months of the war.

    Those killings have led to a number of calls for the Sri Lankan Government to investigate, to permit an independent international investigation to take place. However, to this date, there has been no response.

    No matter what SF or GR may say, I’m sure SLA didn’t go by the book while fighting the LTTE. But should we punish them for that? How do other armies in the world behave and have behaved in similar situations? Just look at Iraq and Afghanistan!

    When you are fighting a desperate enemy like LTTE who would stop at nothing to get what they want, there is very little that the civilized world can expect from a military who after all desire to live unlike black tigers.


    Only morons and traitors would expect the Sun, the Moon and the Stars from SLA when all hell is falling down on this country.

  396. The reluctance on the part of GOSL to seek legal recourse or neutral mediator scrutiny in the matter of Jonathan Miller bombshell speaks volumes.

    The report about the consultation GOSL is having with the Attorney General is a feint. If anything, it all boils down to ducking and dodging.

    It appears as if GOSL is fleeing away from the Channel 4 eruption. Hiding behind a home brew of a eminent scientist is tantamount to avoiding imminent fallout. Piggyback ride to safety !

    For GOSL to stick its head in the sand like an ostrich with the notion that it is invisible to the attacker, by itself proves that the accused does not have the stomach to face the music.

    Channel 4 footage is a defense splitting salvo that has the potential to open a can of worms. This explains why GOSL is on the back foot.

    As such, a token disclaimer is a safe bet under the circumstances seems to be the game plan.

    GOSL is in fact washing its dirty linen in public by exuding irrational explanations and fictitious propaganda.

  397. 472. Nostradamus:

    I say the same for you too. Though you may hold your western masters in high esteem they do not impress us locals. There is no need of a neutral mediator in this case for you either accept the evidence the government has provided if it is technically sound or else refute it and give technical reasons for doing so.

    JM report is not a bomb shell no more. Its just yet another coup by Diaspora to get revenge from GOSL for destroying their beloved terror machine and making mono ethnic Eelam a distant dream. This is not the last and JM won’t stop at this. There will be more crap in future and GOSL need to be on guard for many years to come.

    The country has just over come one of the most ruthless terrorist organizations and whether Tamils like it or not this country will move forward. They can either accept that they are part of a greater fabric and live like that or be vanished from this land altogether by sacrificing their tomorrow in the process of trying to grab hold of things which do not belong to them ALONE.

    Fortunately, TNA seems to have finally found their senses though Diapora is still lamenting for their lost pride.

  398. 68. P.Padmanaaabhan

    vaNakkam P.Padmanaaabhan

    Thanks very much for delightful comments. Because of your posts here, you are becoming a good friend.

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    472. Nostradamus
    Fantastic response peppered with humor, thanks :
    I LOL a lot.. hilarious !!!!!!

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    471. Navin

    ” Have you read even a single word of my posts? The bloody video has been technically proved to be a fake not by some politician but by computer scientists. What more proof do you want? Go read the news before you blog. Damn it.”
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    In response to your post, the videos shown on the news may have been reported to be fake.

    However, are the computer scientists independent, or being manipulated by the government- forced to report the falsity of these videos?

    The Sri Lankan government is known for its extremism and vicious nature- what’s to stop them from forcing an outspoken computer scientist to give an appealing response

    With the White Van are out at the front of his house ….courtesy of the “Fair, Free Sri Lankan Government’ : )how much faith can you put into these reports

    “I don’t know what happened in Wanni during the war.

    Based on how even the most well trained armies behave in the world, hind sight tells anyone that things could have gone way out of hand. But it’s over now.

    No one had any other solution and we tried to resolve this issue for many years before SLA was given a freehand in much better civilized ways.

    In the end, unfortunately it all came down to either SLA be allowed to vanquish the LTTE or LTTE would vanquish the entire country before that. Not a very complicated choice to me.”

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    It would be an ideal world in which there was no need for an army.

    No rebel groups, no rapes, no murder.
    However, it is common knowledge to all that the Sri Lankan army has an ‘after hours occupation’.

    If given the opportunity to quash the LTTE, the SLA would not only claim more lives unnecessarily, but continue to rape and pillage the Tamil population.

    The dishonourable actions of the SLA on the innocent civilians throughout this war are barbaric and inhuman and they stain the image of Sri Lankan army irrevocably- whichin case you have forgotten the Sri Lankan is there to serve and protect the people of our country.

    Up to twenty thousand people have been killed in one day (see Mothers Day Massacre) with these revenge tactics.

    The LTTE has never desired to vanquish the entire Sri Lankan population , instead LTTE was trying in vain to negotiate a peaceful solution.

    However the Sri Lankan Goverment has shown little interest, instead preferring shameless land grabbing under the guise of liberation of the North-East of the island.

    Annihilating the people’s way, removing free will, the right to practice their chosen religion, speak the language native to them and removing all opportunity to earn money.
    There is no political freedom. There is no quality of life.

    “No matter what SF or GR may say, I’m sure SLA didn’t go by the book while fighting the LTTE. But should we punish them for that?

    How do other armies in the world behave and have behaved in similar situations?

    Just look at Iraq and Afghanistan!

    When you are fighting a desperate enemy like LTTE who would stop at nothing to get what they want, there is very little that the civilized world can expect from a military who after all desire to live unlike black tigers.

    Only morons and traitors would expect the Sun, the Moon and the Stars from SLA when all hell is falling down on this country”

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    Using Iraq and Afghanistan as an example when comparing it with the Sri Lankan war is of no consequence.

    The two are incomparable.

    Conditions of the SLA’s operation are quite clearly violent and cut throat- why else would they refuse media into the area, to report on the condition of our country? They are choosing to censor all information going out to the viewing world.

    The men and women involved in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars would cringe with disgust knowing you could compare the two.

    The SLA fights a bloodthirsty war, evil to the core, taking the lives of men women and children with little more than a turn of the head.

    Not only are they separating families, ripping communities apart and focusing on an overthrow, they are reveling in the fact that the Tamil people cannot stand up to the atrocities being forced upon them.

    Without the LTTE to stand up for the rights of the Tamil people, how will this come to an end?

    The army will become all powerful, immersing all of Sri Lanka in a barbed wire, impenetrable militaristic rule.

    Why are people who care for the rights of the suppressed immediately viewed as morons and traitors?

  399. 474. Mawatha Silva

    So ,

    do you really think that the world has a full media coverage of what is happening in Afghanistan and Iraq ?

    I doubt it my friend.

  400. Ramesh Silva, you must be in good mood : )

    I guess you missed the imprisonment of an award-winning Tamil journalist, J.S. Tissainayagam ?

    And in your eyes, the Sri Lankan press “free and fair”?????

  401. However, are the computer scientists independent, or being manipulated by the government- forced to report the falsity of these videos?

    The Sri Lankan government is known for its extremism and vicious nature- what’s to stop them from forcing an outspoken computer scientist to give an appealing response

    With the White Van are out at the front of his house ….courtesy of the “Fair, Free Sri Lankan Government’ : )how much faith can you put into these reports

    I just hate writing replies to this type of responses for there is 0 logic in your reasoning.
    I just told one of you to talk about the evidence presented by the person instead of his credentials
    or what broght him to say what he has said and then now you ask the same thing.
    If you cannot counter the evidence presented by GOSL then please do us all a favor and just shut up
    rather than talk nonesense.

    I can assure you that no one needs to force Dr. CR de Silva to say what he has said for he has
    spoken the truth and he hasn’t been abducted for he is still a happy lecturer at Moratuwa.
    But I do fear for his safety not just that of his but of several other scientists too who
    have been involved in supporting the SLA in many different ways and now have in
    fact fled the country to escape LTTE pistol gangs.

    It would be an ideal world in which there was no need for an army.

    No rebel groups, no rapes, no murder.
    However, it is common knowledge to all that the Sri Lankan army has an ‘after hours occupation’.

    If given the opportunity to quash the LTTE, the SLA would not only claim more lives unnecessarily, but continue to rape and pillage the Tamil population.

    The dishonourable actions of the SLA on the innocent civilians throughout this war are barbaric and inhuman and they stain the image of Sri Lankan army irrevocably- whichin case you have forgotten the Sri Lankan is there to serve and protect the people of our country.

    If SLA were to misbehave to the extent you claim, there would no tamils left in North and East. I won’t say that
    all SLA soldiers go by the book but most certainly the situation is not as grim as you paint it ought to be.
    Your hatred towards Sinhalese makes you paint a sadistic view of the world for your own pleasure. Please get out
    of it for your own good if not for nothing else.

    Unlike the leadership of LTTE SLA has a good leadership. These
    are not people who derive pleasure by murdering the helpless and innocent. These are not people who harbor ethinic
    inferirority or superirority complexes. These are educated people who are respected by many other educated and academics
    in the country unlike some 8th grade drop out worshiped by village folk. Under such leadership its extremely unlikely
    that SLA would behave in the way you accuse it of. You cannot take isolated incidents and then generalise
    it accrose and entire Army and a war effort.

    Up to twenty thousand people have been killed in one day (see Mothers Day Massacre) with these revenge tactics.

    Or really? I thought the previous number given by Mr. Elangvan was 20,000 killed during the entire war effort
    which lasted 36 or so months not one day? Besides, what did they use to kill 20,000 people? Gas? Even the Tsunami only killed
    50,000. So it must have been pretty big an effort to kill and dispose off 20,000 bodies in one day.

    Please tell me, how do you pick these numbers? Do you just add another 10,000 to the last number or do you just
    pick the next random number that comes to your mind?

    The LTTE has never desired to vanquish the entire Sri Lankan population , instead LTTE was trying in vain to negotiate a peaceful solution.

    WOW. The best statement ever. Makes me cry.

    However the Sri Lankan Goverment has shown little interest, instead preferring shameless land grabbing under the guise of liberation of the North-East of the island.

    Annihilating the people’s way, removing free will, the right to practice their chosen religion, speak the language native to them and removing all opportunity to earn money.
    There is no political freedom. There is no quality of life.

    really?

    So Tamils have no land (Entire noth and east, wallawathe, dehiwala, negambo, up country today are inhibited by aliens I suppose),
    have no freedom to practism Hinduism (there are no Kovils in Sri Lanka, I suppose you have some temples belonging to an
    alien religion at places like Nalroola and Katharagama),
    have no freedom to speak their language (The miraid TV and radio channels run in Tamil are run for the consuption
    of japanese I suppose),
    no oppotunity to earn money (I suppose Maharaja crop. is owned by Sinhalese, need more examples?),
    no political freedom (TNA, Mano’s party etc. are Sinhalese parties)

    The only reason I replied to these comments was so that some moron from the west reading your comment
    at least don’t straight way go one to blog elsewhere that Sri Lanka is an evil state.

    Using Iraq and Afghanistan as an example when comparing it with the Sri Lankan war is of no consequence.

    The two are incomparable.

    Conditions of the SLA’s operation are quite clearly violent and cut throat- why else would they refuse media into the area, to report on the condition of our country? They are choosing to censor all information going out to the viewing world.

    The reality is Bush was a mere pawn in the war. The war was initiazed by
    the american neo-cons who also control the media. So the military and media are just part
    of one army thats on a war to wipe out any threat to america’s security from terrorists like
    Osama and attain economic security by getting all the oil that lies underneed the soil in
    the middle east under its control. While the army is there to wipe out the terrorist and
    prevent anyone else getting a foot hold, the media are their to fight the world opinion
    against the war. Since both media and military work for the same party and has the same
    adjenda, there is no conflict.

    Similarly, SLA has allowed SLRC into the war zone to report what it wants others to hear.
    What’s source for the goose is source for the gander. Isn’t it?

    The day I’m able to hear chinese or russian media describe first hand accounts of
    Iraq and Afgansiatan state of affairs I would belive what I hear. Until then, I realy
    on my hind sight and gut feeling that what I see and hear.

    The men and women involved in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars would cringe with disgust knowing you could compare the two.

    Wow! I suppose those men and women you talk of was very kind to prisoners at Abu-Grab. Did you not here the kind
    of reports like the recent american bombing of an remote village in afaganistan where over 100 civilians died?
    Do you not read wiki-pedia which says half a million children died during Iraq invasion by Bush admin?
    Do you really believe that when americans fire a hell-fire missle into remote Pakistani village huts
    those missiles actually go into a room full of people and when they explode the sharpnel hits just only
    terrorists and leave others unharmed? Are you so incapable of hearing the news reports that say that
    there are 3 million (yes 6 zeros after the 3) in Pakistan of which none of the western countries
    seem to have no problem of? Have you not heard of the american marian lingo that says don’t send a man where you
    can send a bomb? Are you unware of the fact the americans have thus far refuse to appologize for the
    masscare of over 200,000 civilians by atomic bombing of Hiroshiman and Nagasaki? My friend, I don’t
    see any problem with americans or the way they are defending their interests but I certainly do see a problem with you.

    The SLA fights a bloodthirsty war, evil to the core, taking the lives of men women and children with little more than a turn of the head.

    Not only are they separating families, ripping communities apart and focusing on an overthrow, they are reveling in the fact that the Tamil people cannot stand up to the atrocities being forced upon them.

    Without the LTTE to stand up for the rights of the Tamil people, how will this come to an end?

    If by killing and murdering others you can get your rights, I’m sure thanks to LTTE all Tamils
    will get plenty of rights and freedoms by god’s grace.

    The army will become all powerful, immersing all of Sri Lanka in a barbed wire, impenetrable militaristic rule.

    Thanks for your concern.

    Why are people who care for the rights of the suppressed immediately viewed as morons and traitors?

    Because they don’t care about the rigts of the suppresend– period.

  402. Navin you come across as an educated man and as such I cannot understand why you have chosen to jump on the callous Sri Lanka propaganda bandwagon… this just does not seem to add up.

    You think you are informed, however I think your educator may have been biased.

    There have been many journalists just this year, killed for trying to report the truth to the world.

    The Sri Lankan Government as well as the SLA is corrupt and focused on ruling rather than serving the island

    If it were your mother, daughter, father or brother in the concentration camps would you be so willing to back the monsters responsible?

    Would you turn your back on the truth and allow the propaganda to fill your mind?

    I could not imagine this being the case. And if you disagree with me on this, perhaps you should reevaluate your personal standards.

  403. http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=61818

    So Prof. Philip Alston too finds the investigation by GOSL inconclusive. Not because the evidence was unsound but because the people that presented them were Sri Lankans and hence could be biased! Many here raised the same question and since I have answered it before not once but several times I won’t say the same again. I guess this is how lawyers interpret scientific evidence.

    If there is anything that is clear from all this is that they are not after human rights here but some thing much bigger. They are so desperate that they would even take a fake video and show it to the out side world and say this could be authentic though there is evidence to say otherwise:-) I won’t be surprised if US congress too were to cite this video as a piece of evidence in their upcoming report on 21st. Whoever made the video must be having a good laugh! Now that GOSL itself has taught him some of the mistakes he made when making the first video, the next video I’m sure will look more authentic and perhaps will have more interesting effects.

    There is a photo in wikipedia Colin Powell during UNSC debate showing a vial and claiming that it contains anthrax from Iraq to justify invading that country. The process with which UN, US and EU are hounding SL these days looks very similar. No concrete evidence, no logical reasons, no relative comparison to conflicts elsewhere or even their own but lot of allegations and sanctions unless they and their cronies are allowed to peek and poke inside the country as they feel fit.

    This is what happens when a country becomes so powerless to defend its interests, so insignificant to the west but so dependent on their help and men without principals takes over the job of politicking the world.

  404. An interesting question arises with respect to UN Prof. Philip Alston comments for how the US has been carrying out investigations into its own abuses.

    Who investigated those crimes? No one had any problem with US/west or their puppets like Afghan/Iraqi governments carrying out their own investigations. So its good for US/west to investigate its own abuses and concluded its not guilty but its not so even when the presented evidence is pure of technical nature for countries like SL.

    Well, even if UN were to investigate crimes committed by US can we conclude those investigations are unbiased when Ban Ki Moon was picked for the job by they themselves on the plain and simple agreement that the man won’t speak against them:D

  405. Navin, Navin you are not going to outdo me on this : )

    Sri Lanka’s government did four separate studies of Howthe video footage that purports to show Sri Lankan troops killing naked, blindfolded men during the civil war.

    However, Philip Alston, U.N. investigator on extrajudicial killing, said none of the studies cited by Sri Lanka appears to be independent and impartial

  406. To whomsoever it may concern.

    I can’t keep principal and principle clear. Can you help?

    Principal as an adjective means first in importance. As a noun, principal means the head of a school.

    Example: The principal reason that Nelson was chosen to be principal of our school was her dedication.

    Principle is a noun meaning a fundamental truth or law upon which others are based, or a rule of conduct.

    Example: The principal’s principles were questioned by the parent group.

  407. 477. Navin | September 16th, 2009 at 12:24 am

    …..reports like the recent American bombing of a remote village in Afghanistan where over 100 civilians died?
    Do you not read wiki-pedia which says half a million children died during Iraq invasion by Bush admin?

    Do you really believe that when Americans fire a hell-fire missile into remote Pakistani village huts?

    Those missiles actually go into a room full of people and when they explode the shrapnel hits just only
    terrorists and leave others unharmed?

    Are you unaware of the fact the Americans have thus far refuse to apologize for the massacre of over 200,000 civilians by atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

    Ahhhhh … the Hiroshima excuse !!!

    Where did I hear that before ??
    From the Daily Mirror of course : )

    As you said

    What’s source for the goose is source for the gander.

    Why is it that whenever the topic of the 300, 000 people imprisoned within the Sri Lankan concentration camps is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past.

    Just because the Americans may have killed thousands of people with the Hiroshima bombings, does not justify the actions of the Sri Lankan Army( SLA.). Please, don’t paint the Sri Lankan army as a harmless kitty.

    Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for the treatment of the Tamil people.

    The Sri Lankan government says the Tamil Tigers have been wiped out, the war is over, and Sri Lanka is free from conflict.

    But if this is true, why there are so many innocents still imprisoned, raped, murdered.

    Is the war against the Tamil Tigers, or against the Tamil people?

    I hope you remember when the Sri Lankan military said they conducted the biggest hostage rescue operation.

    Tell me why these people are still living like hostages inside their concentration camps.

    What are they being ‘protected’ from if the government has already defeated the Tamil rebels?

    The Sri Lankan government said they had liberated the Tamil people as well as the whole N-E side of the land from the Tamil Tigers

    Are the people inside the walls of the concentration camp liberated?

    This is a peculiar concept of liberation.

    In my opinion the Sri Lankan ‘liberators’ are in fact occupiers.
    Colonizing all of the Tamil Homelands, ethnically cleansing and enslaving the civilians which is below the law, nationally and internationally.

    Sri Lanka depends on outside, international help.

    If they continue to need this help, the organizations supporting them have an upper hand in a way.

    Letting them know their help will discontinue if the state of affairs does not improve may just be the way to end the mistreatment of the minority.

  408. 482. Nostradamus | September 17th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Dear Friend

    I love your posts;

    I read all of them with great interest.

    You seem to care a lot for the three hundred thousand innocent people who are still languishing in the concentration camps, which is an honourable action within itself.

    And thanks a lot for a good English Language lesson. Or is it a life lesson ?

  409. MS, Nost, navin and others, vaNakkam.
    next 11 days are holidays in tamil naadu for courts on account of sarawathi vazhipaadu( Poojaa holidays). i read the Un official’s comments against GOSL for the alleged investigation of Channel 4 video clippings. thiru navin has alreday posetd them here in 479 above. thank u. i have plenty of works to be ocmpleted and will be with u all after completion of works.
    meeNdum sandhippOm!

  410. vaNakkam P.Padmanaaabhan

    I miss you my friend.

    I love to read your posts.

    I’m internally grateful for your kind permission to allow me a tiny glimpse of your life in Tamil Nadu.

    I hope you successfully complete your work and come back soon to delight me with your down to earth notes of pure pleasure : )

    Best regards

    Mawatha Silva

  411. Ahhhhh the Hiroshima excuse !!!
    Where did I hear that before ??
    From the Daily Mirror of course : )
    As you said
    Whats source for the goose is source for the gander.
    Why is it that whenever the topic of the 300, 000 people imprisoned within the Sri Lankan concentration camps is brought to attention, narrow minded people choose to dig up the past.
    Just because the Americans may have killed thousands of people with the Hiroshima bombings, does not justify the actions of the Sri Lankan Army( SLA.). Please, dont paint the Sri Lankan army as a harmless kitty.
    Although many terrible things have happened in the past, there is no justification for the treatment of the Tamil people.

    I do not in anyway condone the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. On the contrary it is you who always adorns the US military, their professionalism and morals. I cited the above examples to prove to you that US military, their tactics and policies aren’t always professional nor moral.

    Furthermore, I also agree that, whatever misconduct on part of US military or any other military is not an excuse for SLA to behave in the same manner. Having said that, as a civilian I’m in no position to demand from those who risk their lives to protect us from the terrorists that they also stick to certain standards while they go about the difficult task of combating terrorists who are fanatic enough to commit suicide!

    If on the other hand, I was a military man myself who adheres to those principles, then I could demand that my fellow soldiers also adhere to them.

    If anyone thinks that the recent military push was an unnecessary use of force, then that only reflects his or her ignorance towards this country, its people, their security and future. Like I said before in such a situation only morons who cannot comprehend the danger that awaits them and traitors with malicious agendas would demand things that may compromise SLA or its operations.

    SLA was the only hope we had and whatever reason that may have prompted them to joined the army those soldiers fought the war with great risk to their own lives. Hence, I as a civilian who now benefits from the sacrifices made by those men will not demand anymore.

    What is the point of questioning democracy, media freedom, inflation or corruption when you cannot get on to a bus or train not knowing whether you will be able to get off alive? Before democracy or media freedom can be meaningful to a person, he first needs to have security. This is something that those who find fault with the present administration for been undemocratic, etc. etc., must realize. Personally, I don’t think that they don’t realize this but rather their interests lie elsewhere.

    Those were desperate times and required desperate measures. Under such circumstances, there is a limit to what GR or SF could have done to control the actions of each and every soldier while facing the LTTE killing machine.

    Hence I refuse to hold GR or SF responsible for any misconduct on part of specific soldiers or demand from SLA that they adhere to all known humanitarian norms during the concluded war. Given the credentials of people who were in command of SLA, I have faith that SLA tried their best to minimize civilian casualties and save whoever they could– civilian or terrorist.

    The mute response of those who clamor for war crimes investigations in SL for similar if not worst situations elsewhere in the world, particularly where the west has it’s hands dirty is nothing but disgusting. It isn’t the people like us who try not to demand things which are humanly impossible from their military that ought to be condemned but those who try to vilify other countries to cover their own nakedness.

    For instance, though the US state department has initiated a prompt investigation into SLA’s conduct they don’t seem to have the same eagerness to investigate Israel’s conduct in recent clashes in Gaza. Not only do they refuse to take action against such conduct due to strong Jewish lobby in US politics but the Obama administration announced 40 billion dollars of military aid to Israel! Hence, when US or UN shouts war crimes! War Crimes!, people with common sense will take look at the situation for themselves before they join the band wagon.

  412. The Sri Lankan government says the Tamil Tigers have been wiped out, the war is over, and Sri Lanka is free from conflict.
    But if this is true, why there are so many innocents still imprisoned, raped, murdered.
    Is the war against the Tamil Tigers, or against the Tamil people?
    I hope you remember when the Sri Lankan military said they conducted the biggest hostage rescue operation.
    Tell me why these people are still living like hostages inside their concentration camps.
    What are they being ‘protected’ from if the government has already defeated the Tamil rebels?
    The Sri Lankan government said they had liberated the Tamil people as well as the whole N-E side of the land from the Tamil Tigers
    Are the people inside the walls of the concentration camp liberated?
    This is a peculiar concept of liberation.
    In my opinion the Sri Lankan ‘liberators’ are in fact occupiers.
    Colonizing all of the Tamil Homelands, ethnically cleansing and enslaving the civilians which is below the law, nationally and internationally.
    Sri Lanka depends on outside, international help.
    If they continue to need this help, the organizations supporting them have an upper hand in a way.
    Letting them know their help will discontinue if the state of affairs does not improve may just be the way to end the mistreatment of the minority.

    If you are this concerned about these issues, its hard to believe that you are unaware of the constraints that prevents these people from been released immediately. If indeed you need to refresh your mind, you can go read my response to one Mr. Elagovan in #280. Even if I were to provide you a factual answer you are unlikely to accept it since I feel its not your game.

  413. U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice told reporters on Thursday that the United States has “serious concerns” about a U.N. report accusing Israel and Hamas of war crimes in the Gaza war, reports Reuters.

    Rice claimed the investigation into the Gaza war was flawed. Instead of focusing on the war, which took place in December 2008-January 2009, there should be a focus on the peace process, she claimed.

    HRC is indeed an interesting woman… one rule for Israel and one for SL. She seems to be counting votes for the next presidential election now itself.

  414. May good god save Varatharajapperumal who declyered
    independant Ealam.
    May good world respect our democratic wish.

    Parahty

  415. my dear friends here, all of u.

    I have completed one more year yesterday as per informal recrords of my family and begun this day of 25th day of Sep 09 in my form and life as a human on earh!

    I felw into Coimbatore yesterday after three days stint in Chennai for my avocational needs.

    An xeperinec is worth sharing. As I drioe to certain location in Adyaaru, i happend to notice this time a very sweet Tamil name board of a sweet and bakery shop near Adayaaru fly over. The name is “THAMIZHINI INIPPAHAM ” . I was curious for two days and on 23rd evening I stopped the cab and and stepoed into this shop. A gentleman welcomed me with folded palms in vanakkam and he said so. I asked him this was very strange experince to be accposetd in tamil tradiiton and how ands why the name is ;piuer tamil. He told me to my delight that the origin of the owner was YaazhppaaNam ( jaffna)! There was indeed yaazhppaanam kozhukkattai for sale among other items. I resoevd forthwith i muts patronize the shop- I examined the array of eatables in sweet and bakery items. I chose NOT any sweets. He asked me whether I did not need sweets. I said I had sworn to myself not to touch sweets and feast at all fater May 18th! Thrilled he seized my hands and shook them warmly. Tha revelaed to me that the glow of libertaion is still intense Eezhamite tamils.

    I do not pray nowadays as my prayers for the eezhamite tamils and LLTE went unheeded by the my favouirte idnetity of GOD,Murugan each day during war last year 2008 and thsi year upto May. I begna my mornginw alk with sincere prayers to the GOD. But the Mighty Force was not in favour of Eezhamite Tamils. I never pray after May 18.

    last night my beloved my wife asked me whether i would be going over to temeples in the omornign next n next , that is today. I said no. She was pewrturebd and said she wloudl anyway pray for me! That is the way solidarity with and loyality to a husband is ;practised by an average tamil wife!

    I am blessed dear friends.

    My concern is the prosped INTERNATIONAL TAMIL MEET in coming January. Thiru.M.K is really callous ! o can the tamils ever hold such a massive coneferenec while 3 laksh of them are held in camps as IDPN and teh news reda in yester day reads that unless an until the LTTE supprters are flushed out the SL government
    would not dl not resttle them.

    The fiutuer os the tamils in general are bleak.

    But the conefretren woudl take plave anyway and iam sure Thiru.MK would invite tmt.Soniaa and others from New delhi. I recall the days of 1st tamil world conference in the then Madras during the reign of pEraRingnar ANNAA. as CM. It was the greatest gathering of tamils and i attended the next one in Madurai too. I had met MPs of TULF then at the conference and also the interesting person thoru.VAIKUNTHAVAASAN who took the place of the then sriklankan FM thiru ABDUL HAMEED and addressed the General Assembly!

  416. Sorry the previous message was incomplete sdue to a wriog move of my finger on key board.

    I willw ait and see how the conference views the pllotical future of eezhamkite tamils in particular and that of tamils in general.

    anbudanum nal vaazhththjkakaLudanum.
    P.Padmanaabhan at 02.13 AM IST on 25th sep 09.

  417. vaNakkam, mawatha silva and others.
    MS in 486:”vaNakkam P.Padmanaaabhan
    I miss you my friend.
    I love to read your posts.
    I’m internally grateful for your kind permission to allow me a tiny glimpse of your life in Tamil Nadu.
    I hope you successfully complete your work and come back soon to delight me with your down to earth notes of pure pleasure : )’

    Thank u MS.
    I am still busy and yet i do acces this link now and then. When i read two prinetd items I though I could place them here. One news is from DINAMAN dated 27.9.09:This news is in tamil and is not reporetd in english press.Hence ebear with me for this tamil reproduction:

    Mawatha Silva

  418. இலங்கை முகாம்களில் மனிதப் பேரவலம்: மனித உரிமை ஆர்வலர் எலின் ஷான்டர் வேதனை

    சென்னை, செப். 26: “இலங்கை முகாம்களில் மனிதப் பேரவலம் நடக்கிறது’ என்று அமெரிக்காவைச் சேர்ந்த மனித உரிமை ஆர்வலர் எலின் ஷான்டர் வேதனை தெரிவித்தார்.

    அமெரிக்காவைச் சேர்ந்த மனித உரிமை ஆர்வலர் எலின் ஷான்டர், இலங்கைத் தமிழர் பிரச்னை குறித்து தமிழகத்தில் பேசுவதற்கு வாய்ப்பு மறுக்கப்பட்டதுடன், அவரது இந்தியப் பயணத்துக்கான விசா அனுமதியும் ரத்து செய்யப்பட்டது சர்ச்சையைக் கிளப்பியது.

    விடியோ கான்ஃபரன்ஸிங் மூலம்… இந்நிலையில் தில்லி ஜவாஹர்லால் நேரு பல்கலைக்கழக மாணவர்கள் சார்பில் “இலங்கைத் தமிழர்’ குறித்த கருத்தரங்குக்கு ஏற்பாடு செய்யப்பட்டிருந்தது. வியாழக்கிழமை நடைபெற்ற இக்கருத்தரங்கில் விடியோ கான்ஃபரன்ஸிங் மூலம் அமெரிக்காவில் இருந்து எலின் ஷான்டர் பேசியது:

    1940-களில் போலந்து நாட்டில் சித்திரவதை முகாம்களில் யூதர்கள் படுகொலை செய்யப்பட்டனர். அப்படி படுகொலையானவர்களில் என்னுடைய குடும்பத்தாரும் அடங்குவர். ஈழத்தமிழருக்கு எதிராக இலங்கை ராணுவம் திட்டமிட்டு படுகொலை செய்து வருகிறது. இலங்கைத் தமிழர்கள், இலங்கையின் யூதர்கள் என்று அழைக்கலாம்.

    அகதிகள் முகாமில் 10 ஆயிரம் பேர் காணாமல் போய்விட்டனர். இப்போது தொடங்கிவிட்ட பருவ மழையால் அங்கு நிலைமை மோசமாகி இருக்கிறது.

    முகாம்களில் உள்ள 35 ஆயிரம் குழந்தைகளில், 1,800 பேர் பெற்றோரை இழந்து அனாதையாக்கப்பட்டுள்ளனர். சர்வதேச செஞ்சிலுவைச் சங்கம், ஐக்கிய நாடுகளின் சர்வதேச குழந்தைகள் உதவி நிறுவனத்தை இலங்கை அரசு வெளியேற்றி விட்டது. அக் குழந்தைகளுக்கு யார் உதவி செய்ய இருக்கிறார்கள்.

    கொசாவோ நகரில் மக்களை படுகொலை செய்த மிலோசெவிக், சூடான் பஷீர், லிபியா அதிபர் கடாபி ஆகியோர் போல இலங்கை அதிபர் ராஜபக்ஷவும் கொடுமையாக தமிழர்களை கொன்றுள்ளார். அவரை ஒரு போர் குற்றவாளியாக விசாரிக்க வேண்டும்.

    உலகில் எந்த நாடும், ஈழத்தமிழருக்கு ஆதரவாக இல்லை. ஐக்கிய நாடுகள் சபை உதவ மறுக்கிறது. இப்போது தமிழக தமிழர்களும் உதவி செய்யாவிட்டால் யார் உதவி செய்வர்?. தமிழகத்தில் இருந்து 18 மைல் தொலைவில் தான் ஈழத்தமிழர்கள் உள்ளனர்.

    தென் ஆப்பிரிக்காவின் நிறவெறி அரசுக்கு எதிராக உலக நாடுகள் பொருளாதாரப் புறக்கணிப்பு செய்தன. அதன் விளைவாக நிறவெறி அரசு வீழ்ந்தது. அதுபோல ராஜபக்ஷ அரசுக்கு எதிராக பொருளாதாரப் புறக்கணிப்பை தமிழர்கள் மேற்கொள்ள வேண்டும். இலங்கையின் பொருள்களை வாங்கக் கூடாது. அங்கு சுற்றுலா செல்லக் கூடாது.

    இலங்கையில் முகாம்கள் என்ற பெயரில் முள்வேலியில் 3 லட்சம் தமிழர்கள் அடைக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது வேறு எங்கும் நடக்காத மனிதப் பேரவலமாகும். 3 லட்சம் பேருக்கு முறையான தங்கும் வசதி கிடையாது. போதிய கழிப்பறை வசதி கிடையாது. வெறும் 500 கழிப்பறைகள் தான் உள்ளன.

    சுகாதாரச் சீர்கேடு ஏற்பட்டுள்ளதுடன் சிக்குன்-குன்யா, மலேரியா போன்ற கொடிய நோய்களுக்கு ஆளாகி இறந்து வருகின்றனர். சிகிச்சை அளிக்கப் போதிய டாக்டர்கள் இல்லை. இலங்கை அரசின் போர் குற்றங்களுக்கு சர்வதேச சமூகம் தண்டனை வழங்க வேண்டும் என்றார்.

    இலங்கைத் தமிழர் பாதுகாப்பு இயக்கத்தின் ஒருங்கிணைப்பாளர் பழ.நெடுமாறன், மதிமுக பொதுச் செயலாளர் வைகோ உள்ளிட்டோரும் இதில் பேசினர்.”

    the other one is from an old number of Tamil journal AANANDA VIKATAN dated 11.03.2009 at page 44-45. These paegs allotted for questions to one thiru.mathan from readers and his answers to them.

    One such questions is:”Under current circumstanecs , if a Tamil is an indian PM how he would handle lankan isseu?”.

    The reply is:” Assuming that a similar promblem is faced by the Sokhs , can the present Pirme Minister Manmlohan Sing do what he wants to do? He would need permission from Sonia.

    That is, It owuld not be sufficient iof a Tamil is the PM.
    TO MEET SUCH A CONTINGENCY ONE NEED ENORMOUS COMPASSION AND MOUNTAIN LIKE COURAGE. The truth is we have washed our hands from the tamils livign in Sri Lanka.

    if jews live in epace and not disturbed anywhere on
    earth, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE PROTECTIVE FRONT GIVEN TO THEM GLOBALLY BY THE STATE OF ISRAEL!

    that is why we need a sovereign State for the tamils too.

    That is why india, China, Pakisthan , Sri Lanka and other clountries DO NO WANT TAMILS to have their own sovereign State as Israel s for the jews.

  419. What Sovereign State? Why don’t you mention Tamil Nadu with 80 million Tamils living. That is the State. Why should others give States for Tamils. History has shown that we will never be satisfied with what we have. as a result the whole tamil speaking people will suffer. It is tim erealise that Tamil Nadu is our State. Other countries have given us a place to live. Get on with your lives. It is too short. We followed a murderer and look where it took us. We lost all the leadership material.
    It is hard, but let us face reality. We cannot have the cake and eat it.
    What we sowed, we reaped. Get on with the lives.

    Velu

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